Critics and Criticism

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On Literotica the critics and their criticism can be enjoyable to read and of possible value to the author and other readers; conversely they can be incomprehensible, gross and much worse.

Hmmmm – selected dictionary meanings (The Collins Dictionary and Thesaurus):

CRITIC
(1): a person who judges something
(2): a professional judge of art, music, literature, etc
(3): a person who often finds fault

CRITICISM
(1) The act or an instance of making an unfavorable or severe judgment, comment, etc
(2) an analysis of evaluation of a work of art, literature, etc
(3) the occupation of a critic
(4) a work that sets out to evaluate or analyze

Obviously I haven't been getting altogether favorable criticism of my submissions otherwise I would not be writing this. Right?

Only partly right: I also read other posted submissions and then read the responses to the invitation below the story: "Love it? Hate it? Have suggestions? You can leave a public comment on this submission!"

Oh dear – that invitation doesn't say the comments should be valued judgments or a learned evaluation after a critical literary analysis. So therefore I must not be all embracing with my saber-rattling.

Two forms of comment/criticism exist via the website: the public comment and the private messages that land in the email box of the literary genius (or poor sod) who penned (keyboarded) the words and embodied nuances being praised/hammered.

There is a saying in journalism, 'Don't attack critics unless you're prepared to be savaged back. Obviously a critic dreamed up that advice.

This tilt is not aimed at people who snarl: "This story stinks."

What an odd thing to allege – and that's all it is - an allegation, being only an opinion – and it ignores the fact that the Lit site does not yet offer aromatic digital publishing. After reading some characters get up to in their adventures I am rather pleased that the pages currently are pong-free.

A more mentally generous commentator may say "This story stinks" but then adds a reason why to underpin his/her comment thereby making it more meaningful and possibly of some value to the readers who may include the author.

Here's one I've seen on another author's site: "The ending was unsatisfactory."

Oh yeah? Obviously the passion died and the couple split up or in one case there is a tragic ending. Apparently because it's fiction the good guys are not supposed to die or get STD's. An explanation by the contributor would effectively explain her/his criticism. Here's a thought: do you remember a film with a happy or soppy ending better than one with a sad ending, such as 'Gone With The Wind'? I loved seeing women cry over that film because obviously they were heartbroken and enjoying their trauma so immensely. My favorite opera is Madam Butterfly because it makes me cry.

Let's get this straight: I heed the words of some critics/people offering comment because I either recognize they are right or worry that they may be right – a conflict which can be rather daunting.

Here are some conclusions I've arrived at after some thought, knowing that they could be erroneous conclusions:

"Get an editor" sounds suspiciously like a thin-lipped person with indigestion reading the text simply to find an error and pouncing immediately upon finding one and with a terrible laugh screams, 'Got you, you sloppy bastard/bitch.' Another suspicion is such comments could be lodged in the hope that listed volunteer editors are kept busy.

"I'm disappointed that you've sunk into touching on depravity." When I got that response I almost wet myself and felt so guilty. Then reading comments received by some other authors I found similar wording. The guilt continued until a reader urged me to continue writing closer to the bone, advising me to ignore 'the morality police' and that set me on track again. Okay, I chose which critic that suited me best, but at least the nudge was effective.

I decided to let it rip a bit and got a married woman getting down on an unmarried and younger man, a hitchhiker. "I give it a 3 for it does not flow. The content is good, but the flow stinks. It is so jumpy, there is no build up, and to say it again it just does not flow..

That critic got to me – obviously I jumped into hotting up my writing too quickly, my endorphins took over my fingers and I deserved that reprimand. Since then I have read the comments coming in with greater initial respect. At least in the eyes of one reader I made the grade because a little later 'Ronnie' wrote: "A rollicking good story." Whether he is critically astute to make such a judgment on behalf it was satisfing to know that I'd pleased one reader.

"It is unacceptable to make married women into promiscuous sluts." I'd only been aware vaguely that I had done that as turning a woman into a slut was not my motive for writing that particular story – she sought excitement and got it – usually only at one end in my writing. As defenders of author under attack sometimes say, "Dammit, it's only a story!" I concluded that for me it is acceptable to make a married woman into a slut just as it is acceptable to write at the other end of the scale regarding morality and write about a young couple having tentative sex and then getting married. I find it no more difficult making married women into promiscuous sluts than I do making married men into promiscuous sluts and, with me, inevitably they enjoy it and not always without consequences.

We are all aware, are we not, that every action has a consequence? So in emailing me that such writing was unacceptable (unacceptable to whom the respondent did not say) the consequence was to encourage some steamy outpourings into postings on the Lit website from me.

Typically useful comments for me include:

"They didn't get to fuck – please write the sequel and get them going hot, hot."

"You stories would be easier to read if you defined chapters."

"Your story is too slow and ponderous, with not enough sex in it. This is an Adult Website. I see there is more to follow so could you please get focused and have them acting as horny adults."

Ah, yes. Judging from some of the emails received, some readers are also horny adults, abusive adults and not particularly skilled at communicating; but providing they explain themselves adequately then they're probably not wasting their time in passing on their thoughts.

Of course, critics/commentators don't know everything but then neither do authors. Therefore it's good to have both.

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covey56covey56over 6 years ago
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I wish this guy name anonymous was band from the site. Ever notice he seldom has a good coment. Just sayin!!!

QuineQuinealmost 19 years ago
A joyful romp through criticism

Hi... You obviously have a sense of humor about your work and don't take yourself too terribly seriously. At least I sense this in your comments here. Personally, I liked them. I thought they were pretty right on. Personally I don't see any point to even making the "Your story sucked" kind of feedback. I don't always like everything I read, but if I say anything, I try to make it cogent and helpful. I'm also a writer (non-fiction actually published in the now distant past) and love doing erotica, and so, like you, I am both sensitive to stupid criticism, and appreciative of the intelegent variety even if it isn't entirely flatering.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 19 years ago
Critical Commenter

Oh, dear Egmont, so eager to please aren't you? What a cute little rant you had going there! I'm afraid I must tell you that you're not going to please everyone out here in cyberotica. 95% of comments are crap themselves and make no sense or bring any enlightenment or encouragement to the author that could improve their writing. Not only that, but any true Litster comes to recognize which atuhors write to their tastes and which don't. Repeat negative commenters who continue to read your stories after expressing repeatedly that they don't like them are idiots. Save yourself some distress, darling, and simply glance at the title and first 2-3 lines of a post. If it's positive or encouraging read on and if not skip it and go to the next. After all, no matter how many bitchy, complaining posts you get, you always have a fan in me;)!

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 19 years ago
Obtuse but Loveable

Betcha liked that eh critter. Well it is exciting (well interesting) to have an author of repute take the time to express [rant?] his feelings so openly. Few do and it is appreciated. Feel better?

Just a thought tho - Some writers are not really authors. They are without imagination (a fresh thought or angle), discipline (format, spelling, proper words) and the ability to entertain (talent, flow with style).

When an author has those plus intelligence, those who appreciate him/her want / expect more - perhaps more than is reasonable or the author wants to give. What is wanted?

The Police don't really want morality here - they want sensual Respect and a semblence of erotic Reality - failing respect they want the justice and consequence real life deals out every day. But the Police don't expect it from the one handed fuck and suckers. Guess that leaves you and other good authors who can and desire to do better - desire to have some credibility - who want or appreciate recognition for their displayed talents. Many want to grow perhaps in each of these aspects. They are competitive and seek approval as most of us do every day.

Also, I disagree with some who feel that this is just a porn site - how ignorant - how short sighted - read the catagories for crying out laud. More to the point, erotic is to porn like a slap is to being run over by a bulldozer. Is there porn here - of course, but most good authors wouldn't write that as most of this audience don't come here to be run over - most aren't jaded enough - yet or ever. Jeez, talk about a rant.

So author, while you choose what and how you write, we can only hope you maintain what is possible for you and other good authors. Selfishly, most of us come here to be sensually aroused and entertained in a semblance of reality with respect or consequence if reasonably called for. Many Good authors understand that - can do that and many want to thankfully!

Thanks again - sorry for the length - with high Regard

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 19 years ago
Critical of (some) critics

Those who can't write become critics, at least in many cases. Don't you just love those who suggest you get an editor when their own comments are not well written? I used to think critics were really writing their own stories, based loosely on what I had written, and sometimes thought they protested too much because the story touched some aspect of their lives they'd rather have left unexamined.

The harmful thing is that enough negative comments, justified or not, will cause some writers (I'm one of them) to write in other venues.

This, from the author who used to be tonytony3 (the literotica email account associated with my user name is no longer valid)

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