We all have opinions as readers - every time we read anything, we make a judgment of how good or bad it is. Most times, like when we read a magazine article or a book, we don't get the opportunity to tell the author what we did or didn't like about their work. Likewise, the authors don't have the benefit of instant feedback on their work, and it becomes more difficult to discern what they need to fix and what they don't.
Lucky for us, Literotica authors have an advantage that many print media authors don't - they can receive instant and unedited feedback from their readers seconds after they have read the author's submission. This enables the author to recognize their glaring errors immediately and refrain from repeating them in later works. The readers get to have their opinions noted and hopefully, heeded. Everybody's happy.
At least, they ought to be.
Too often, readers comment authors' submissions and leave criticisms which do not help the author in any way. They consist of groundless praises and relentless bashings alike, leaving the author clueless as to what their readers loved and hated about their stories. They are left with a collection of meaningless comments, few of which have any value, as far as fixing their work's problems go.
There is a simple fix to this problem, and hopefully readers who decide to give feedback will take these points into consideration.
Be specific.
Enumerate the problems you see in an author's work. You can't expect them to know what is wrong by simply telling them you didn't like their submission. Specific complaints about subject matter, style, and overall quality allow the author to review his or her work and spot their problem areas. A writer who knows exactly what didn't set well with their readers will be the best equipped to prevent future mishaps. Example:
Bad Comment
Your story sucks! I hate it, its one of the worst stories I've ever read! The whole thing was stupid and you need to go kill yourself!
Good Comment
I'm sorry to say I didn't enjoy your submission. The characters were shallow, the setting was poorly described, and the situation was wildly unrealistic. There were many grammatical errors - so many that the story was unreadable. Get an editor.
Even positive feedback should be specific. Authors love hearing that you loved their submission, but telling them what they did right tells them which traits of their story they should keep around for future submissions.
Bad Comment
Great story! Keep it up!
Good Comment
I loved this story. The characters were so realistic; I just loved the fact that I could see what they were thinking. It really made me feel connected to them and made me care what happened to them. The sex scene was also very creative. Can't wait for the sequel.
A few extra words tacked on to your opinion, whether positive or negative, will be greatly appreciated by the author and other readers alike.
Stay on topic.
The comments section of the submission is not a tabloid rag where readers can go to complain about the state of the world. Authors want to hear what you think of their work, not your opinions about society at large. There's a section here for that, and it's called Reviews and Essays. Here are some examples of what not to do:
I hate niggers! All they ever do is ruin society and make life dangerous. All the black people I've ever met have been rude, fat, and ignorant. They should all just die! Keep them out of your stories, fuckface.
Good job, I love that the republican guy died, I hate republicans. They're the cause of all of America's problems because they're so money hungry.
I can't believe he was having sex with an Iraqi woman! After they killed all of those people on September 11, he should be killed for treason. Everyone in her family is probably a terrorist, waiting for another chance to kill Americans. I hope he gets AIDS.
Authors want to know what you think of their story. At the risk of sounding cliché- you might have strong opinions about the world you live in, but neither the writer nor the other readers give a shit.
If you don't approve of the subject matter, stay out of the section.
I find few things more amusing than someone who hates the topic of the story they're commenting on. If you aren't into gay sex, stay out of the Gay Male section. If incest disgusts you, don't read stories about incest. It's very simple. Unfortunately, this seems to escape many people, and comments like this are ridiculously common:
I hate fags! Why would anyone want to read about two guys fucking? Worst story ever!
Garbage. I can't believe some men get off on being treated like this. It's sick. Get off of Literotica, you're the worst writer ever.
Who ever wrote this must be a sick-minded individual and should get some help. He's victimizing this poor girl in his stories because he wants to do this in real life. Nobody wants to be spanked during sex.
Comments of this nature are worthless to both the author and the other readers. The author wants to hear what the readers think of their storytelling abilities, not whether or not readers approve of the subject matter. You waste valuable time and space by commenting on stories you knew you wouldn't like in the first place.
The comment center is not a chat room.
Don't write to other readers on an author's comment page. This area is for story comments only. If you want to talk to a specific commenter, find their page and write them a personal message. Nobody came here to hear you argue with another visitor about global warming.
Don't try to put italics and bold typeface in a comment.
When the author checks his or her comments in their personal profile, all they'll see it a bunch of code mixed in with the text. It'll make it very hard to read. Don't do it.
Don't attack the author personally in response to their fictional story.
This ought to be common sense, but, as they say, common sense just isn't that common. This is rude. Don't start dropping insults about a person's race, sexual orientation, religion, or opinions because of something their characters said or did. If you didn't like their character, say so. Just because the character holds opinions you don't approve of doesn't necessarily mean that the author feels the same way; characters in stories are just that. It won't earn you any respect or admiration from other readers. They'll just think you're a douche.
Rate fairly.
Make sure you rate the story for how good it was as a whole, not just one character or aspect. Don't rate the story down just because you didn't like the character's appearance, or you would rather the sex have taken place in a different setting. You're not being asked to collaborate, only to comment on what's written. I hate getting my average dragged down because somebody didn't like my character's name, and so do other authors.
All in all, feedback is about improvement. Authors open up their stories for comments because they desire the opinions of their readers; we want to make you happy. Respect your favorite writer and all the writers on the site by using comment areas appropriately. Authors really appreciate valuable commentary.
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Nice title!
As someone who spent years simply reading on this site for the purposes of getting herself off, for the longest time I didn't even realise that you could rate stories, let alone that authors might actually appreciate feedback.
Then I got heavily involved in the world of fan fiction and learned just how important feedback can be. I took giving feedback very seriously.
So why is it that, even since joining this place properly a little over a month ago and knowing what I know about feedback, I'm still reading and failing to rate and comment?
I guess some of it in the past was the fact that I didn't feel any sense of responsibility to. I wasn't part of the community here, so I felt no compulsion was on me to comment.
Now that I'm part of the community, I'm still finding myself wary about giving feedback.
To begin with, if I don't enjoy a story, I don't rate it. Simple. I don't really care about the scoring system, but I don't want to drag anyone's score down, so I just ignore that part.
But when it comes to writing comments, I've only done so if I've felt really moved to say something. Something positive, that is. I've read through comments on stories (now that it's entered my head to bother to do so) and seen comments that have seemed endlessly nit-picky and not particularly encouraging. I wanted to avoid being like that. After reading your article however, I'm beginning to wonder if I've been grasping the wrong end of the stick, because I could really go to town on some of these stories. Gently and with respect, of course.
My question is "How much truth does an author want to hear?", coupled with "Do all authors really want feedback and do they all want the same type?" I do recognise that that truth is often my subective truth, but the question still stands.
There are people who do just want to be encouraged. I found it in the fan-fic world. They just want to hear "I enjoyed it, thanks for writing, maybe we could read some more soon?" Those people are quite happy with the less specific types of comments.
There are others, of course, who are much more serious about the craft of writing and who are striving to improve. This is the type of author who wants my detailed comments. But how am I to know the difference? I don't want to waste my time writing what can amount to a lengthy critique for someone who doesn't particularly care about actually getting better as a writer.
Having said that, there are stories on here with such implausible scenarios, shallow characters and improbable plots that I tend to assume the authors are writing that way quite deliberately, merely as a vehicle for their own masturbation fantasies. Who am I to try to give them literary criticism? That's not what they're about.
And yet...in making that assumption, I'm possibly ignoring the genuine writer who simply doesn't realise that their work stinks and who, with a little guidance, could improve but who would quite possibly be devestated by my truthful and honest criticism.
Yes, I find leaving comments and feedback a minefield at times. No wonder so many people prefer to leave their comments anonymously.
Now I realise I've just demonstrated one of the thing about comments and feedback that you were discussing. I've waxed lyrical and not actually given you any feedack. And this comment should probably have been sent to you as email, rather than left in the comments, but I'm too far gone to change things now!
Basically, what I wanted to say was, I enjoyed reading your article. It made me think about how I could improve the comments I've recently started leaving and wondering just how specific I should get in what I say. Thank you for your thought provoking piece.
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