All Comments on 'How To Annoy Lit Contestants'

by oggbashan

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AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
wHO REALLY CARES?

yOU ADVOCATE tighter controls and more rules... Less government please!!!

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Re annoyance

Consider yourself annoyed.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Absolute Nonsense

I agree, BE ANNOYED! The writer is self-promoting himself because he wants non-writers [aka; Samuelx, BFW, PrincessErin] and horrible so-called stories such as this one to receive good ratings! However; if Literotica.com wants to make a change then it would be to bar and/or to ban writers from removing negative comments about their poor so-called writings!

DarkniciadDarkniciadalmost 16 years ago
*Chuckles at comments*

You should have titled this one "How to draw the ire of the anonymous natives"

<p>I agree that the thermometer needs to go. It causes too much confusion and may be responsible for sweeping of valid votes. Disconnecting the thermometer rating isn't going to alleviate the confusion factor.

<p>I do think that a suggestion floating around the forums for a second "H" bracket for 4.0 to 4.5 with a different colored icon is a better solution than a label on the voting form, though. The problem isn't so much how people are voting as it is that restrictive label that is so important for writers to attract readers.

<p>You've certainly hit all the points from the contest threads, though. We may all disagree about what the solutions are, but everyone is perpetually frustrated to at least some degree during a contest by one (usually more) of the areas you've detailed.

trevormtrevormalmost 16 years ago
I'm with you on this one...

I thought your article on the voting system was excellent. I also endorse your feelings about how some people vote just to bring a writer down. But I have noticed that with the negative and nasty comments, not one of them have been able to offer any practical help to the writer concerned and make absolutely no allusion to the piece submitted regarding characterisation, setting, plot, atmosphere, pacing, and any other essentail element of a good short story. I think it is because either there is a professional jealousy going on, or maybe it's because the people concerned are incapable of offering any constructive critisism at all - possibly it's a bit of both. I came to Literotica to test my ability at writing erotica, to see if I was on the right track. I have had lots of positive feedback and I thank people for that. However, I do not understand this subculture that tours this site with no other intention than to deface something for the sake of it. I call it gratuitous graffiti. Anyway, an excellent and valid article all the same and I will look forward to reading more of your work - thank you. It's comforting to know there's some real talent contributing to the site and trying to improve things for everyone.

OleTroubadorOleTroubadoralmost 16 years ago
Right on!

I believe your article to be thought provoking. Here's hoping it stirs the powers-to-be to re-think the rating and voting system.

michchick98michchick98almost 16 years ago
The first three comments...

Just goes to show you about the whole anonymous ID thing you touched on. I agree, however, that the thermometer rating system should go. There's got to be a way for the authors to get through to TPTB so that we can get a fair voting system. Interesting read, ogg.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
More Garbage Thinking About "Anonymous"

I continue to be astounded at some people’s ignorance. At this point, I have to conclude it must be purposeful. Think about it, write. People don’t bother to log in to write comments because it takes longer and serves no purpose. Look, “Anonymous” is no more, or less, anonymous than “mickiechickie98,” “gooberslober01,” or even “oggbashan.” None of those logins impart any more true information about the poster than does “anonymous.” What is so hard to grasp about that? Unless the poster actually writes down his or her Christian name, followed by the surname given by his or her parents, along with an accurate address and phone number, then it’s ALL anonymous. Get it? </p>

Okay, as for this essay, the second-most idiotic thing on this website must be a writer complaining people don’t appreciate him or her nearly enough. This writer doesn’t like anonymous (see the above discussion) comments that leave the writer with “…no means of redress.” Redress? You DO have it, Bub. Your redress is simple. Just write a good story, with a story line developed in accordance with the Mystical Journey’s precepts and work hard to eliminate poor grammar, punctuate it properly, and make sure your syntax is correct and logical. The sixth or seventh draft should be almost perfect in all those respects. What happens then? Simple--any idiotic comments about the story will disappear in a flood of well-wishers who applaud your efforts. By the way, if you don’t know what the Mystical Journey is, and who wrote THE text about it, you’re not ready to write. </p>

As for voting, the complaints about that are stupid on their face. Turn off the voting if you don’t like it, dummy! If you don't like comments that are labeled as "anonymous," turn off that feature too. Every writer here has those options and many routinely disable the features. </p>

But if you do allow those features, live with the rules the way Lit has set them up. You don’t get a change of posting rules just because you get adverse commentary. Play the game the way the rules are written, or don’t play, Bub. No one is forcing you to post here. You can start your own site if you don’t like it here. Above all, QUIT WHINING!!!

PrincessErinPrincessErinalmost 16 years ago
Yep

I agree with everything said. I do have a question and a comment though. I thought the thermometer vote didn't count for the overal votes? As well I have accidently tried to post an anonymous comment and it won't let me, saying I already have an ID for my IP address. Either way a truthful article.

starrkersstarrkersalmost 16 years ago
Well said.

I agree with your conclusions. My only other comment is that votes from the same IP appear to get swept (sometimes). I don't have an alt, but my husband has an account. We've tested the theory, both voting on one of my poems. Neither vote stuck. And I believe sometimes PC votes and star votes are BOTH swept.

As to who cares? from a previous commenter - you should. The voting system is all you have to help choose readable and good from dross, regardless of the contests.

And wouldn't you be more inclined to read a contest winner if you knew it was gonna be a great story? Right now, that is a lottery, not a surety.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Unamusing but Anonymousely Funny

Well Author - the Lit. request appears to have some legitimacy - key word = appears since us mouses aren't privy like you poisens are.<P>

I am puzzled by the continuous plaintive wail about the anons.<P>

Lets get down to brass tacks and some basic realities. First why and how can this be a free site for writers and readers? Answer = show me the money. Without $ it would cease to exist for either or any of us.<P>

Who do you suppose directly generates the preponderance of $? Do you think the anonymous writers and idiot named anon.'s [ie quicksandwilly] spend more than the honest anon.s? While it is a case of who is more important - the chickens or the eggs, it can't be argued that the honest anon.'s spend more here than the anonymous writers and silly named anon.'s.<P>

So its really a good system for the benefit of both plus and including those who pay the bills so it exists.<P>

To satisfy you writers who insist on full disclosure would you use your real name? City and State? Wouldn't that be stupid [no question mark here].<P>

While there is no perfect system nor ever will be perhaps it can be made more beterer by the judgement of the site managers who walk a ginger line. Lets face it - lives are more secure in anonymity and thats a good thing in this Free Speech Arena. Plus believe it or not more honest constructive comments in large part can and do result from honest anon.'s - especially when compared to writer comments who should support each other and often blindly do.<P>

Lastly, the writer always has recourse to address the anon.s public comment and they often do in that forum. Conviction and Free Speech works both ways thanks to the site managers foresight.<P>

Viva the opportunity of choice and Free Speech!

TarakinTarakinalmost 16 years ago
The thermometer should go

Yes, you're right. The thermometer should go and there shouldn't be more comments than votes. Great How-to, Og.

BOSTONFICTIONWRITERBOSTONFICTIONWRITERalmost 16 years ago
I agree with all of your suggestions

Voting should require the voter to be registered on Literotica and signed in. Alternate identities should be linked so that only one vote can be made from the same IP, although that might disenfranchise people using the same computer.

The Star system should have a value message emphasising that anything lower than a four or a five is damaging. To vote one or two stars there should be a requirement to leave an open explanatory note as a public comment by a named user.

Good article. Thank you for this. Let's hope that management reads this and adopts your suggestions.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Wrong Title

This should be titled "how to really annoy readers",there are several reasons why people wish to remain Anon.You assume that anon is always intent on making negative comments.Contests of all forms will always attract some sort of rule breaking,that holds good for Racing, sports etc. you name it someone will break the rules.Its called human nature.

BazzzBazzzalmost 16 years ago
You couldn't be more right!

Interesting outcome to the voting and comments regarding this story. The writers (myself included) that toil on this site to leave their work left positive comments stating that they agreed something should be done with the voting system on this site. We also left our names. The negative comments were left by the anonymous trolls. While you had some severe criticism regarding the ability to leave an anonymous comment you did not go so far as to say the site should get rid of anonymous comments, (something I think should be done.) Still this commentary clearly pissed them off as much as an interracial cuckold themed story. Despite your very logical and rational ideas for changes I wouldn't hold my breath. This is site is a profit center for the owners. I would guess that the advertisers pay this site because of the large membership. If we got rid of the anonymous and/or hateful commentators then down go the revenues. Remember, follow the money.

Scotsman69Scotsman69almost 16 years ago
Interesting theme.....

Many thanks for opening up this subject, oggbashan. It gives me an opening for a wee rant!

I'm a new writer on here, though I have been visiting the site for many years. For someone as shy as I am, it takes a lot of courage (and fortunately, in my case, encouragement from site writers whose stories had moved me to contact them, and were kind enough to reply positively), to actually submit a first story. You know what it's like, first time at anything?

I've never entered a Lit competition: my aim here is to learn how to write better, not to win prizes. (By the way, since it seems the site is heavily-North American dominated, it would be interesting to know sometime what proportion of prize-winners are North American, compared to the world membership makeup of Lit?)

I do hope the experience of posting here is helping me do that - learn to write better. I've posted about 8 stories now, and had many helpful comments. To which I listen carefully. And try to keep in mind for future stories.

But I have to say I have a problem with some of the 'anonymous' comments I have received. I will respond to the comments of anyone whom I have a means of contacting, so that I can try to understand better where they are coming from. I do care about how people react to my stories. I want to learn to write well, and be able to make contact with at least some of you.

So I won't turn the response feature off, because I want to know what you think, and if you're happier being 'anonymous', well I can live with that. Neither have I deleted any public comments anyone has posted about my stories, 'anonymous' or otherwise.

But I do have two serious problems with some of the comments I have received, public and private (oh, and these ones have all been 'anonymous'!).

The first is that some readers do not seem to understand that there is more to the English language than the North American variants of it.

I'm Scots and proud of it, and I write in Scots English, and sometimes in Scots. We have a proud and rich literary tradition here (ever heard of Robert Burns?), and it is that tradition I inherit, and breathe in my everyday life. So naturally, that's the tradition within which I try to write.

There are quite enough writers on Lit who use NA English, without me trying to, no doubt poorly, engage with a culture I have only superficial knowledge of.

If North American English-speakers and writers expect me to follow their (to my eyes) sometimes strange uses and spellings of English, I expect enough respect from them, to understand that I come from a quite different (and dare I say it, older?) tradition.

Second, I am trying to develop my ability to write in a particular literary style. I use for example embedded dialogue, ie I don't clutter my stories with 'quotes' to denote reported speech.

It may be an acquired taste, some readers may not be familiar with it, and I may not yet be very good at it, but it has been an accepted literary style internationally (including in the USA) for a very long time. If some readers are not familiar with it, that's their problem - and enormous loss - not mine.

I never got anything other than 'A's in English all the way through my considerable education, and have been writing professionally for all 40 or so years of my adult life, though not till recently creative writing.

I am perfectly capable of writing all the time in grammatically perfect, correctly-spelled, traditionally-punctuated English, and using 'quotes' for dialogue. (Though see above for which variant of English.)

But do you know something? It's just too bloody easy. And more importantly, it's just NOT how people actually speak to each other, or think internally, or communicate at all, unless you are the BBC, or writing formal business letters. (Been there, done that, including BBC broadcasting.)

I want to try to capture how people really speak to each other, and how they think. At least in my tradition of the English language.

As a professional economist, I do understand the commercial imperatives which drive a site like this.

So if I have one plea to the Literotica Board, it is this:

Please remember that there are many more folk in this world whose first language is English, or one of its variants, other than the 300m or so who live in North America. (Within that, I know Canadians have their own distinctive literary tradition and spelling, and maybe there is a difference between, say, New England and Texas too?)

But between the UK (and lots of differences within those 60m people), Ireland, South Africa, Australia, New Zealand, and the many other lands (India, Hong Kong, Malaysia, many African countries) across the globe in which English is the first language, or widely-spoken, there are huge differences in usage of English.

I know only 20% of US citizens hold passports, but that doesn't mean, surely, that they don't have imaginations? Probably over 50% of first-language English-speakers in the world do NOT live in North America!

I know it might be a huge task, but would it be possible for the Literotica system to be adapted over time to take account of this hard fact? Are any members of the Literotica Board NOT US citizens?

And, (please remember I'm a professional economist), couldn't Lit grow its market hugely if it could bear in mind that we're not all US citizens?

OK, rant over! I hope this can be accepted as positively contributing to the debate. I have certainly had enough encouragement from some of my readers, to keep contributing!

Best wishes to all.

Scotsman69

PS Sorry, on reviewing this, I can't seem to make my paragraph breaks appear on the screen, so it looks like (actually is) very dense text. I promise you I tried! Maybe its just being a computer-challenged 61yo?

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
None

I usually don't permit voting on my submissions, and do not enter contests because I am highly suspicious of Literotica's award process. I agree that the 5 radio buttons system should be scrapped for the reasons you state, whether a contest is involved or not. However, I applaud the thermometer system. The Commenter should state why he is giving a particular rating. For that reason I often let comments be submitted, although I find that the ratio of comments to viewers for my work is 1:6000! I also agree that most of the comments, not just of my work, is rather negative, by readers who just don't like the topic. I do not understand why one would read about, say, interracial sex, when one is a racist bigot, or about gays when one is homophobic, etc. But, unless you're in a contest, one can still post without votes or comments. I will probably return to this method.

smy3thsmy3thalmost 16 years ago
Yes! The voting / rating system has serious flaws

You are completely correct that the voting is not merely unfair, but gives the impression of being rigged.

The sweeps are done in a way that makes no sense. I often get a comment from a reader and a vote on a story at the same time, so that it is obvious that the commenter voted and that it was a perfectly valid vote, but then a day or two later, the vote gets removed. It almost appears that the administrators have a score in mind that they think my story deserves and they manipulate the "sweep" to maintain it at that score.

One of the problems is the voting scale of 1 to 5. Anything less than a 5, when the "H" cutoff is 4.5, is real knock on a story. If I think a story is pretty good and worthy of encouragement, even if it is not great literature, I have only two choices: A five that is more than it deserves, or a 4 that is less.

For the most part, the score of a story is governed by the number of one-bombs from the anonymous haters who just have some obsession about giving ones, and the number of counterbalancing fives, which depends mostly on simply how many people will read and vote on your story. The sweeps ought to remove all ones. All ones are wrong.

The last minute sweep at the end of a contest causes weird results. Stories that were never that highly rated suddenly become winners for an instant in time, and then immediately afterward their scores decline again. The winners are often good-but-not-great stories that were clearly not the best in the contest, nor even the most popular, just the ones that happened to benefit from some curious factor in the sweeping process that allowed them to achieve a high score at just the right instant during a sweep at the end of the contest period.

Of course, what can you expect from an anonymous erotica website? The reality is that Literotica's rating system more or less seems to work after a fashion, and does give some clue to the quality of a story. Winning a contest on Literotica means that you won the raffle among the top 10 to 20 percent of the entries. Getting or not getting and H has more to do with the quality of the readers than the quality of the writing.

I think the process could be improved. I think it could be more fair. It also could be a lot worse. I wish it were more fair though, I really do.

Quite honestly, it does discourage me from writing or entering contests knowing the the results are not meaningful. Which means, that I write only for my own amusement, nothing more or less. Maybe that's not so bad. The system is still annoying.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Love you article, oggy!

This is turning out to be quite a forum and rightly so. Oh, by the way, I thought this was a very intelligent and thought provoking article. So thought provoking in fact, that I just had to put in my pennyworth, for what it’s worth. Less than a pennt, probably.

Firstly I’d like to take issue with “More Garbage Thinking about Anonymous” below – 0 score, you’ll note, for what is an excellent article, and not one iota of constructive criticism offered – as per usual. And just what is this “Mystical Journeys”? I haven’t a clue what he’s going on about, so can anyone please throw some light? It sounds like pretentious tosh to me – but then what do I know? And then he goes on about syntax, grammar, pacing, etc. Somebody ought to tell him that some of the best stories broke all the rules regarding these things – or disregarding them. Take your pick.

It really puzzles me about certain criticisms offered about stories on this site. My point being, in many cases they are totally meaningless, if not downright spiteful, and I feel a genuine writer would not criticise his fellows in this way. They amount to little more than smartass-remarks by people who think they’re being clever and witty, and I'm not just referring to criticisms of my work. There are some very good writers on this site and they also seem to attract more than their fair share of adverse and pointless criticism. Why do people bother reading to the end of something if they don't like what they're reading? It's perverse. Any reasonably intelligent person can usually catch the 'feel' or 'drift' of a short story in the first paragraph. I don't mind criticism (well, I do just a bit) as long as it's valid and sensible.

Our intention as a storytellers, first and foremost, is to keep you (the reader) towing along to the end. If we have achieved that, regardless of whether you liked or disliked the subject matter, characters, etc. or whatever, we have succeeded in our goal. Of course, if by some remote chance you have enjoyed what we have written as well, then it's a bonus, a huge one!

What we write about is not who or what we are, despite some people believing it so. We make it up. Yes, we have to go through the thinking process and try to feel/experience the action even when dealing with the most unsavoury of subjects. It goes with the territory as they say. We tell a story and hope that you (the reader) will like it. But even if you don't, and yet somehow, against all your better judgements, you find yourself staying with it until the end, then that in itself is a huge compliment to us. And at least afford us the common decency of recognising the fact.

What really bugs me personally, however, and I know it shouldn't (silly, sensitive soul that I am), is the people who 'rubbish' a story simply for the sake of it, and have no intention of offering any useful suggestions that may help a writer improve next time. I imagine the situations in my stories to the best of my ability, as do countless other decent writers on this site. But imagination is all it is, nothing more.

So, come on you lot. Give us break and let’s have fair, constructive criticism for all.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Votes

That was a very good article and you mentioned issues that frustrate a good many Lit writers. As far as I know, the thermometer is just a visual record of an opinion, not a vote. And only one vote per IP address will stick. Others will be swept, including your own if you voted for yourself. Like you say, we should be able to vote for ourselves. At least we'd be sure of one vote. I'm anonymous too, but I'm not dangerous. I gave you my 5.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Never

In all my life have I read such rubbish[not from the author], for example "I dont mind critiscsm as long as its constructive". Who do you think you are?I will remind you that this is a porn site. Some of the stories are excellent and do not belong here,others are total crap.This site has many authors as we all know ,its just a small minority who suffer from some sort of complex who create havoc.Many authors in fact some of the best could not care less about competitions ,forums ,AH and do not want to be told how good they are,they have self confidence.I use this site to select the stories I want to read,not the ones some think I ought to be reading.I also pay the bill to my internet provider and I am more than happy with literotica,So goodnight Vienna.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Another satisfied customer.

I wish I could understand what the person below was going on about. It sounds like he's angry yet gives a top score. Oh well, ignorance is bliss. Hey-ho!

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Never part 2

For anon from wales if you read all the comments you will see exactly what I was on about,you cannot expect to write on a site like this and only get constructive critism .The submission is fine and would be utopia for those that take part in these competitions,the vast majority of authors do not.There has that explained it,by the way I am a her not a he.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Apologies!

Apologies to the lady below who is a she not a he, and thanks for clearing that up. Although I still disagree with a lot you have said.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Its Ironic

As I type this I am also listening to Andre Rieu play "Jelousie" the spelling is correct.I am also from Wales, Brecon,a more lovely place you could never find. What I am tryimg to say life is not a competition unless you want to compete with yourself.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
More on votes

Based on a combination of superstition and experience with those little scroll bar thingies on every online agreement form, I have a theory about votes. If a story is not viewed long enough to read or copy it, the vote could be removed later. I'm suspecting something in the timing. I have a couple of readers who go through my drafts before submission. If they pay a flying visit to the posted story for a quick vote later on, their vote doesn't stick.

wuz2bluwuz2blualmost 14 years ago
Well said!

Oggbashan, i really appreciate your bringing this message to a new forum [so as to speak]. I had no idea there was so much wrong with the voting system as i have never been an author and so had no reason (or desire) to go to the Author's Hangout, nor have i read the threads or the forums.

I fervently hope this message will get through to the powers that be who manage this site! I for one will be sending at least one message via the "suggestion/how can we improve" link.

Again, thank you for this service to authors and to readers. (Happier authors mean more and better stories, right?)

Cheers!

OtazelOtazelalmost 14 years ago
Why submit stories at all if you get annoyed?

Why get annoyed when people don't comment and vote the way you expect or want. If every vote or comment was positive, then the whole thing would become meaningless.

I write because I enjoy it, and I submit my stories to Literotica because I want other people to enjoy them - and maybe if I'm honest, to show off on a 'look what I can do' basis. Perhaps that is why I turn on the comments and voting options, to hear people tell me how much they enjoyed my work.

But it doesn't always work that way, and sometimes a story of which I am intensely proud and which I couldn't wait to submit, bombs in the votes and attracts negative comments (strangely more often to my email address!). I just have to heave a sigh, repeat 'c'est la vie' several times and reread the piece and the comments to figure out where I went wrong. The result? My head keeps out of the clouds, I don't try to convince myself that I'm erotica's answer to William Shakespeare, and my writing improves. So long may voting, of all kinds, and the comments system continue. Vive la vote!

Then on the down side. There are people, apparently usually known as trolls, who patrol the corridors of Literotica in search of something - anything - that they can use as a club to bash some poor unfortunate writer over the head with. Often it's just that they have read a storyline that doesn't suit their own preferences. To them I say, if you don't like gay sex (I'm a straight man btw, even though I've written about gay sex in both genders) stay out of that genre, and if you don't like cuckold stories (and neither so I) don't bloody well read them. Loving wives must be the most misnamed genre on the site as most of them seem to be loving everyone except their husbands.

On the point of language, I once recieved a very venomous email telling me that as Literotica is an American site, I should be forced to write with American spellings in order to get my stories posted. I'm not sure, but I seem to remember the language being called 'English' not 'American' and so, if anyone has a right to complain about poor spelling surely it should be the Brits! After all, it was our language first.

And yes, there are people who vote for their own story multiple times by fair means or foul, but what do they get out of it. In their hearts they know that the result is spurious, and a winning story that may well have won them a competition genuinely must be forever regarded as a fake. Good luck to those poor misguided saddo's

Finally, should anonymous commenting and voting be banned? Absolutely not! If only for the reason that many critical but genuine comments would disappear as people became too scared to post them, fearing that their own stories would be unfairly trashed and voted down out of revenge.

The system may have its faults, but I for one am glad that it exists, and I can put up with a small percentage of idiots if it provides me with a genuine way of judging how my work is received, and so far I believe it does. I say again, Vive la vote!

cupcakesparkycupcakesparkyover 10 years ago
Well said

Completely agree that low star ratings should require an explanation.

49greg49gregalmost 10 years ago
Interesting

I guess the 'thermometer' voting when one leaves a comment has been done away with. (I started on Lit about a year or two after this was posted, but never saw it - did this essay spur the change?) Was there ever a time that one had to log in to comment? Seems like I saw that somewhere. Probably the same place I read that only ten favorites were allowed LOL. Anyway, a well written essay and I agree with spirit of it.

Scotsman69Scotsman69almost 10 years ago
I posted on this thread

once before, six years ago, when I had just summoned up courage to post a handful of stories.

Six years later, with over fifty pieces posted, I'm still in much the same place. Aye, I've learned a great deal, and I know posting on Lit has helped me become a better writer. I don't post for high ratings, of because I covet red Hs on my work. I simply want to learn to be a better writer.

But having once had red Hs against about two-thirds of my stories, and having seen all but a couple of them disappear in the space of a couple of months, four years ago, I do wonder about the justice of the voting system. Why did I lose so many red Hs in such a short period of time?

I have no idea. But it must have been an orchestrated campaign by someone with a lot of cronies. Some of my stories had over 4.80 points, and lost their red Hs in weeks. Must have been a bombing campaign, maybe by an organised group who care nothing about the quality of my writing, but don't like my left-wing political views? Which come through clearly in many of my stories.

I wrote at the time to the Lit management about it, and didn't get the courtesy of a reply.

So is Lit now a place where only right wing writers, or those who express no political views, can expect to have their stories well-rated? Especially if they are not from the USA?

I don't know. But remembering all the CW university classes I have attended to try to learn to write, the treatment of my many red H stories on this site, and the inability of the site management to even respond to my question about how this happened in a matter of weeks... I seriously doubt whether I'll ever bother to post here again.

It isn't the loss of red Hs I'm concerned about. It's the glaring injustice of a voting system which allows this to happen, to many stories over a few weeks.... and the site management not even having the courtesy to respond to an enquiry about how this could happen.

Scotsman69Scotsman69almost 10 years ago
Please forgive my typos...

I don't have an editor for my posts here, and it's nearly 2am. I'm tired.

The sudden bombing of my scores happened two years ago, not four, as in the previous post.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 8 years ago
Ideal Point/Vote Scoring

Something I was just saying earlier today is I will never ever give someone a perfect score. The main reason I will not give a perfect score is for fear that someone truly perfect will come along, and compete in this contest. They will then see that they are tied with someone less than perfect. If I just happened to be the perfect person, which I know I am not, I would be very upset that this guy (despite being almost as good as me) was not actually as good as me. This is why I would take into more consideration what you said earlier. If the story gets you hot, that is a 3. If the story is so hot you orgasm before reading the end of the story, and you don't bother to touch yourself, then that is a 4. "Why a 4," you ask? Well look at the reason up above. If that is not enough of a reason, then perhaps this will suffice. You may be one of those people whom is able to orgasm without touching yourself. This type of person is rare, but it is possible they will be judging this contest. So the fact they orgasm reading your story is not unusual for them. Hence the 4.

I would keep the fact that a 1 or a 2 requires a comment. No comment - the vote does not count. I may even include 3 in that requirement. The other thing I would do, is change the setting about 2 people on a shared computer may only vote once. Granted, you run the risk of having people lie, and cheat the system, but there is a different way of confirming the 2 people live in the same home and use the same computer. The only problem is that if I leave this solution in the comments, there is a decent chance the cheater will read this post, and know how to cheat this vote, too. If the cheater is reading this, then they will know they can simply use a computer in the library to vote on their favorite submission. They could really easily (depending on the library) vote on 10-30 different computers. The only risk is that someone (IE Me) would recognize what they are doing, and report their behavior to the Library police. These police would then prevent them from using a library computer to look at online text-based porn. That is another problem, because for all you know I am an employee of the library, and therefore, I would not rat myself out. Now, I have just dominated the voting system. Granted, I am being very sarcastic with my words. I may be lying about working at a library. You will probably never know. By posting this comment, I could easily make myself to be a tyrant and rule the next vote.

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EstebanMamonoEstebanMamonoover 6 years ago
Absolutely Correct

I had stories getting full 5 stars until they are noticed, then the sharp drop rapidly suggests some jealous fat virgin decided to 1/star votebomb it.

EstebanMamonoEstebanMamonoover 6 years ago
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Every anonymous that defends this needs to be IP tracked and relevant accounts disabled.

EstebanMamonoEstebanMamonoover 6 years ago

Sorry , every anonymous that speaks against this, mistyped.

Vote Bombing is a very unpleasant activity.

dauberdauberover 4 years ago
Good to know

Had not paid attention to this. Thanks for speaking out.

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