Most Common Fiction Writing Mistakes, #7

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Don't Use Real People in Your Story


One of my new writing students, a gent we shall call Wally, came by my office the other day with the first pages of a new story. I read the pages and then handed them back to him.

"Wally," I complained as gently as I could, "these characters are really not very interesting."

Wally frowned, not understanding.

I tried again: "Wally, these characters are dull. What they are flat and insipid. They are pasteboard. They have no life, no color, no vivacity. They need a lot of work."

Wally looked shocked. "How can these characters be dull? They're real people --every one of them! I took them right out of real life!"

"Oh," I said. "So that's the problem."

"What?" he said.

"You can never use real people in your story."

"Why?"

"For one reason, real people might sue you. But far more to the point in fiction copy, real people --taken straight over and put on the page of a story-- are dull."

Wally sat up straighter. "Are you telling me my friends are dull?"

"Of course not!" I told him. "That's not the point. The point is that in fiction real people aren't vivid enough. good characters have to be constructed, not copied from reality."


One of the toughest jobs we ask of our readers is to see characters vividly and sympathize with them. Consider: all your readers have to go by are some symbols printed on a sheet of paper. From these symbols, readers must recognize letters of the alphabet, make the letters into words, derive meaning from the words, link the meanings into sentences. From that point, readers must make an even more amazing leap of faith or intuition of some kind: they must use their own imagination to picture --physically and emotionally-- a person inside their own head. And then they must believe this imagined person is somehow real –and even care about him.

Readers need all the help they can get to perform this arduous imaginative-emotional task. They have a lot to see through to get the job done even imperfectly.

To help them, you can’t simply transcribe what you see and know about a real person. You have to construct something that is far bigger than life, far more exaggerated. Then, if you do your job of exaggeration extremely well, your readers will see your gross exaggeration dimly, but well enough to think, “This constructed character looks like a real person to me.”

Good fiction characters, in other words, are never, ever real people. Your idea for a character may begin with a real person, but to make him vivid enough for your readers to believe in him, you have to exaggerate tremendously; you have to provide shortcut identifying characteristics that stick out all over him, you have to make him practically a monster –for readers to see even his dimmest outlines.

For example, if your real person is loyal, you will make your character tremendously, almost unbelievably loyal; if he tends to be a bit impatient in real life, your character will fidget, gnash his teeth, drum his fingers, interrupt others, twitch, and practically blow sky high with his outlandishly exaggerated impatience. In addition, you may find that it helps your creation if you take one or two other real-life people and add their most exaggerated impatient characteristics.

What you will end up with, if you do well, will be a dimly perceived construct who no longer bears any resemblance to the real person with whom you started.

Good fiction characters also tend to be more understandable that real life people. They do the things they do for motives that make more sense than real-life motives often do. While they’re more mercurial and colorful, they’re also more goal-motivated. Readers must be able to understand why your character does what he does; they may not agree with his motives, but you have carefully set things up so at least they can see that he’s acting as he is for some good reason.

In all these ways fiction characters are not just different than life. They’re better. Bigger. Brighter. More understandable. Nicer or meaner. Prettier or uglier. And ultimately more fascinating.

To put this point another way, in real life people often don’t make sense. But in fiction, they do. The author sees to that.

[This] is just one of several ways fiction surpasses and improves upon life. And that’s a good thing, isn’t it? After all, if fiction were really just like life, why would we have to have it at all? What need would it meet? Who would care about it?

We spin tales …make up story people. None of it is real, and therein lies its beauty. In your stories, as in all the stories ever told, you must hold the magnifying glass up to your people and events for readers to appreciate them at all … and thus briefly enter a private world, largely of their own imagining –made vivid by your crafty help.


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*psst, while I appreciate the threads, I'm just curious how many common writing mistakes there are. Not being an ass, seriously just curious. If the question's been answered before, I'm sorry I missed it. :rose:
 
The problem is usually the lack of character development. That's one reason why celebrity stories are popular- because everyone KNOWS who Paris Hilton is. The writer doesn't have to tell you anything about her to make her vivid for you (unfortunately, in her case)

Every real person is interesting. But you have to assume the reader has never met this person, and doesn't know jack about him. Dig out everything you know, and invent more if necessary. And then change the names and possibly the color of the hair and eyes...
 
AppleBiter said:
*psst, while I appreciate the threads, I'm just curious how many common writing mistakes there are. Not being an ass, seriously just curious. If the question's been answered before, I'm sorry I missed it. :rose:


There are 38. I'll direct you to the first post where this was covered. :rose:
 
impressive said:
:cathappy:


I will simply say, politely and without discourse, that I disagree. ;)


Chicken.

:D

At first I disagreed, too. But on a second reading of this passage, I think I caught a little more out of it than the initial reading. I caught that basing characters on real-life people isn't necessarily a bad thing, but that one must "enhance" that real life person to make a believable characer in a story. I think this guy is spot-on in that estimation.

Unless I'm going to document the life history of the real-life person I'm basing my character on, I have no other alternative but to exaggerate the qualities and quirks of that person in a short amount of time so that my reader will get a feel for the character. It makes sense to me.

I will say that I felt like the author presented his information in a way that felt condesceding to his readers, or at least to the readers of his fiction: I have to do this and that and something more just to create a characer that will be believable by the attention-deficient readers of today. Yadda, yadda, whatever. Sometimes I have to wade through his bullshit to get to the gist of his rant (I have to do that a lot on the AH, too! :devil: ) That said, I think what he's saying has merit. It's ofttimes painful to face the truth about ourselves and/or our prose. He doesnt break it to us gently or hold our hand while we figure it out. I kinda respect that he treats me like a big girl.
 
I'm afraid I disagree again.

My best pieces are about everyday people. Nothing special about them. They have quirks and problems, sure, but not exaggerated to the point of comedy.

Which is what this person seems to recommend.

I don't think I'll bother to read these in the future. Thirty eight rules is too fucking many to remember and I've agreed with so few of them, I question their utility for me.
 
McKenna said:
Unless I'm going to document the life history of the real-life person I'm basing my character on, I have no other alternative but to exaggerate the qualities and quirks of that person in a short amount of time so that my reader will get a feel for the character.

And, again. ;)
 
Wow Rob, I'm a bit surprised at your reaction. As one of the more level-headed folks at Lit, I expected you to be more open-minded about this stuff.

Oh well, to each their own. I hope you find a writing book that does appeal. :rose:
 
McKenna said:
Wow Rob, I'm a bit surprised at your reaction. As one of the more level-headed folks at Lit, I expected you to be more open-minded about this stuff.

Oh well, to each their own. I hope you find a writing book that does appeal. :rose:

McKenna, I am the type of person who avoids how to books of all types. Even when I was was a computer programmer, I would only get a book to teach me the basics of the programming formalism and then simply write programs.

Certainly this had its limitations as I didn't know the 'proper' way to write programs. On the other hand, because I didn't know 'this can't be done' I often went ahead and did it.

I'm going about writing the same way. I'll just do it and not worry about propriety.

I'm sorry if I upset you, McKenna. :rose: But an aphorism I read many years ago has stuck with me and had an enormous effect on me. It states, "An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until finally he knows everything about nothing at all."

That's how I feel about all these rules, Mckenna. If I follow them, I'll end up being an expert writer. That's not quite the same as a good writer.

P.S. I use the term 'programming formalism' as I hate the term 'computer language'. Programming formalisms are far too limited to be languages.
 
rgraham666 said:
I'm sorry if I upset you, McKenna. :rose:

I'm not upset at all, just disappointed. How can I be upset that you don't like a book that I did not write? ;) I'm just disappointed we won't be hearing your views, that's all. I learn from others as much as I learn from the author of this book.



rgraham666 said:
But an aphorism I read many years ago has stuck with me and had an enormous effect on me. It states, "An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until finally he knows everything about nothing at all."

I would agree, actually. But I've said it before and I'll say it again: While I may not agree with everything this author says, it does make me more conscious of my writing style and techinque. If I can't see the mistakes, how will I ever improve?



rgraham666 said:
That's how I feel about all these rules, Mckenna. If I follow them, I'll end up being an expert writer. That's not quite the same as a good writer.

To each their own, Rob. :rose: I wouldn't mind being a bit of both, though. ;)
 
Mnyeh.

Certainly there has to be something interesting or exceptional in a story, otherwise, why bother? If it's not the situation or the author's perception of it, then it probably should be the characters.

I really don't think you have to turn every character into a caricature though, which seems to be what he's suggesting.

What it comes down to is, everyone who learns to write develops his or her own style and apporach to the subject. The how-to I would put together would be different from yours; the iron-clad rules I swear by are things you ignore. the object of learning to write is to develop your own voice and your own take on things. When you get to a certain point, you abandon the how-to books and forge ahead on your own.

The more of these tips that are posted, the better I feel I get for the kind of fiction this guy must write. It's not the kind I write, so I disagree with a lot of his ideas, but I congratulate McKenna for posting these things here. They're probably the most author-relevant threads we've had here in the Author's Hangout for months.

--Zoot
 
dr_mabeuse said:
I really don't think you have to turn every character into a caricature though, which seems to be what he's suggesting.


At first this is what I thought he meant, too. Maybe I'm just putting my own spin on it, but I think he exaggerates his point just to make it, if that makes sense. He obviously doesn't believe in subtly making a point, so he forges ahead with all fanfare and marching ...which unfortunately makes it seem like he is suggesting we make caricatures of our characters, rather than just interesting people within our stories. Pffft, what do I know. I'm no professional writer of fiction. And maybe I want so desperately to find something of use out his book, I'm making it up as I go. ;)



dr_mabeuse said:
What it comes down to is, everyone who learns to write develops his or her own style and apporach to the subject. The how-to I would put together would be different from yours; the iron-clad rules I swear by are things you ignore. the object of learning to write is to develop your own voice and your own take on things. When you get to a certain point, you abandon the how-to books and forge ahead on your own.

I suppose. Or, when you've come to a standstill in your fiction and you want to move forward but you don't know how or where you're lacking, you pick up the how-to books again and see what's new. Who knows, maybe you missed something the first go-round, or you just need to brush up on stuff you've forgotten.



dr_mabeuse said:
....but I congratulate McKenna for posting these things here. They're probably the most author-relevant threads we've had here in the Author's Hangout for months.

--Zoot

Aww, thanks. It's been an interesting study in human nature, if nothing else. :D And these suckers are a bitch to type out every day... if they aren't of any use to anyone but myself, I'll not waste any more of my time.
 
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McKenna said:
For example, if your real person is loyal, you will make your character tremendously, almost unbelievably loyal; if he tends to be a bit impatient in real life, your character will fidget, gnash his teeth, drum his fingers, interrupt others, twitch, and practically blow sky high with his outlandishly exaggerated impatience. In addition, you may find that it helps your creation if you take one or two other real-life people and add their most exaggerated impatient characteristics.

What you will end up with, if you do well, will be a dimly perceived construct who no longer bears any resemblance to the real person with whom you started.
What you'll end up with, if you don't do well, is a charicature instead of a character.

I actually think #7 is pretty good advice. It is often easy to take a lot of stuff for granted when it comes to people we know. Stuff, that we therefore doesn't bother including when characterizing them in stories. But like all advice, it is no good if you follow it blindly.
 
Stella_Omega said:
:(
NO one cares about my observations?

chopped liver, that's me..



Awww... don't feel left out. :rose:


I agreed with your observations, actually. Didn't think to say so, though. :D


Be tough, keep posting. We need fresh input, always!
 
"An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until finally he knows everything about nothing at all."
I hate this aphorism, I think it's an excuse for self righteous ignorance.

That being said, this "how to" guy is certainly allowing himself some self righteous attitude. It ain't how he's saying it, though- it's what he's saying. And what he left out of this tip, as I see it is- don't rest on your character's laurels.
 
Stella_Omega said:
That being said, this "how to" guy is certainly allowing himself some self righteous attitude. It ain't how he's saying it, though- it's what he's saying. And what he left out of this tip, as I see it is- don't rest on your character's laurels.


I kind of noticed that about his attitude, too. It's one reason why I, myself, hate trying to teach something, be it piano lessons or language lessons or anything at all I feel competent in. I don't want to come off sounding like a condescending know-it-all and forever put off my students' thirst to learn. It's a tricky balance to achieve, to be both teachable and teacher.


In response to the second part of yoru statement, I do need to point out that I'm only including excerpts of his chapters, not the chapters in their entirety. I'm just not willing to type all that stuff out . :D Keep that in mind if you find some of his comments lacking, it could be that I've edited them out.
 
I think that what he might be getting at is that if you use real people then you have a reasonable idea about them and know how they look, how you would expect them to react in a given situation, and how they would express themselves.

The danger is that while YOU know about them, you don't necessarily give the reader the same information. If the character is a construct, you have to build them from scratch, and they may well develop through the story. A real person is already developed.

Archetypes may be one way of building characters. Georgette Heyer was supposed to have no more than 5 basic heros and 5 basic heroines that she mixed and matched, yet her works remain popular. (I think she had 3 basic plots!)

Shakespeare and Chaucer gave us real people. I can recognise Justice Shallow and The Wife of Bath in people I meet. That was their genius - they gave us people who are timeless. Yet neither character was just a single real person. They are observations of characteristics shared by similar people polished to give a single character that we can acknowledge as based on reality.

I think what these threads are doing is giving us a basis for discussion. We need not necessarily agree with the author's edicts but they make us think about our writing in more depth than usual.

To some extent we are spoilt on Literotica. I forget just how bad normal erotic writing on the Internet is. I have had a blunt reminder by joining a Yahoo stories group. They have at least a dozen stories posted a day. Maybe one is of Literotica standard. The rest? Boy sees girl's 38DDs - they fuck.

Since writing here I have improved yet I still have a long way to go and I may never reach the standard my muses expect. I'll probably die trying.

Og
 
oggbashan said:
To some extent we are spoilt on Literotica. I forget just how bad normal erotic writing on the Internet is. I have had a blunt reminder by joining a Yahoo stories group. They have at least a dozen stories posted a day. Maybe one is of Literotica standard. The rest? Boy sees girl's 38DDs - they fuck.
Mhm. I used to check out the usenet group alt.sex.stories, but I got frustrated from the poor quality of the writing. What I didn't realize was that most of the times, it wasn't even about writing. A lot of the porn stories on the net can rather be seen as sexual fantasies transcribed with as little fuss as possible. There is an audience for those too, the "quick, throw me a fuck situation and I'll see if I can jerk off to it" kind of audience. I've never seen the point in that. If all I want is a fantasy, I can close my eyes and make one up. Not only that, it will be exactly the kind that turns me on.
 
I can kind of see what the guy is saying. I don't necessarily agree with him, but I understand what he's getting at. In Mr. Undesirable the main character is basically a smaller, nicer version of me. But I had to build him up a little to make him a more interesting read. His best friend is my best friend in real life, still there are elements of other people in that character as well. There are a lot of real people in my book, but I did embellish them, put them in fictional situations, etc., to change them around a bit.

I guess the important thing is not to write about boring real people.
 
It would seem, that the author dosen't have any reall ife freinds who would make good characters. I do. I don't use them, for the simple reason I feel it would be an invasion of their privacy and an imposition upon my friendship with them, but seriously.

One is a mental health professional, I could write a book that would keep you in stiches if you heard some of the tales she tells on residents.

One is a park ranger, ditto in spades her stories of NYC folks and their hyjinks in the great outdoors.

A butch lesbian actuary who rides a harley.

A BSN working in Monroe.

An artillery orderly curlently somewhere in the mideast.

The list goes on.

But I think the gist here is normal folks don't lead big enough lives to make it into fiction. And with that I agree. My lil brother is as strong as conan the barbarian, but he dosen't gets the womens or drink as hard and the last thing he killed with his trusty sword was a walmart picture frame while horseing around with his brother.

Ordinary, everyday people are ordinary. And few people go to read fiction about the ordinary. They want the extraordinary. So you could use barney the mail man as an auxillary character or Rita the check out girl. I think using a real person as base might help some authors create fuller less two-D minor charactrs, but your protag has to be larger than life. Or else you have to thrust him into larger than life situations. Something has to be eye catching and though provoking.
 
Gee-dee back button erased my brilliant post. So here's what you get instead:

I agree with the premise but it's badly presented. In his eagerness to be witty and entertaining Bickham has greatly overstated the cure.

An impatient character doesn't have to constantly fidget or interrupt others or pace. Just as an evil character is laughable when he's too over the top, so any character begins to fall apart when the author keeps screaming at you and waving things in your face. You have to pick and choose how to reveal your characters. It's kind of like a strip tease --- you want to show enough to keep the reader interested but not so much that he becomes inured to what he's seeing or thinks he's already gotten the big payoff.

-B
 
impressive said:
:cathappy:


I will simply say, politely and without discourse, that I disagree. ;)

And I, politely and without discourse, will concur. :D
 
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