The BDSM Book Club Discussion Thread

11.) 'Scandal' by Amanda Quick another book.

Y'all let me know what you would most like or get in more nominations soon because the selection for August must be decided on Monday!

The discussion of July's selection will start on Tuesday!

I can't wait!

Fury

And with NO help from anyone *pout and sob* the selection for the month of August 2006 is:

Cooking Up a Storm by Emma Holly

Who is reading with me???

Come on you know you want to!

Discussion of the July selection Switch can start at midnight!!!

Fury

Okay our selection for the BDSM book club in July was: The Switch by Diane Whiteside. Let's talk about it!!!

Did you like the book overall or not?

I did like the book!

Do you feel it portrays BDSM in a real way, a positive way and/or your way?

That's a tricky question in this case. I'd say this book came closer than any other selection but they did a lot of role play that didn't feel "real" to me. So some of it felt more real than others, most of it felt positive, not much of it was "my" way.

Did you like the sex scenes in the book?

The ones in which they did D/s but not role play, yes, I did like those. The others I found the rp distracted from the story for me.

Did you like the rest of the book, the story in it?

It was pretty standard romance fair but it was enjoyable and well written. I found I couldn't wait to talk about it with someone. Who else read it with me???

Would you be interested in reading another book by this author?

Sure, depending on the subject, I might read another. I don't read romances just to read a romance though it would have to hook into something I love to read about like this one did.

What did you like best about this selection?

I liked the title, how ballsy it was. I liked the two lead characters. I liked that she had been trained and that he had read a lot and had some toys. This made some of what they did much more believable than if they had both had no prior experience like in the previous selection.

What did you like the least?

The involvement of his son and her parents didn't work for me. Also the extensive role play felt like too much to me. I am a role player but not in my D/s so much. It makes that feel "false" to me. I want to be real and in the moment and me, not playing a role and acting during scenes.

When they wrote stories to each other they both implicitly just "knew" to include the real names of each other. That too felt false to me. I would never presume to do that. To me that is assuming something and unwise. These fantasies they wrote were considered by both to be role plays they actually wanted to act out without futher communication. I found that to be a somewhat false and dangerous message to send.

How would you have changed the story?

I would not have included his son and her parents in the scheme to kidnap her. I think the best friend who is kinky and who shops for her would have been a better less jaring person to involve on her side and I'm sure he had other people on his side that would have made better sense.

I would have had their fantasies not include their real names and for them not assumed to be what the characters actually wanted without further talk.

I would have tried to make it a little less typically romancy and a bit more unique in plot lines. I would have made it more straight D/s.

Of course, you don't have to answer the questions above and you can say anything you like.

In spite of my picking at it, enjoyed this selection overall. I even enjoyed just carrying around the book with the title and the cover to see how certain friends reacted to it.

*smiles*

I suspect I know far more submissive men than Dominant ones.

Fury

No one else is posting on this thread is it dead y'all???

Fury

I couldn't find it in any of the bookstores, and I don't havea debit/credit card to get it online. Sorry.

graceanne said:

I couldn't find it in any of the bookstores, and I don't havea debit/credit card to get it online. Sorry.

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Oh no! Me too! What about the library and are we talking about this month's selection or the last?

Fury

If it is this month's selection I can always change the pick. Let me know what you can get. So far no one else has said they were reading along. *sniff*

Fury

FurryFury said:

Oh no! Me too! What about the library and are we talking about this month's selection or the last?

Fury

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July's selection. And I seriously doubt my library will have it either. Their romance selection SUCKS.

Oh yeah, and I"m in for August's selection.

*hugs*

graceanne said:

Oh yeah, and I"m in for August's selection.

*hugs*

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Now that is good news!

*hugs*

Fury

I got this month's selection today!

Yay!

Fury

OMFG!!!

There is SO much SEX in this month's selection, some of it is even BDSM stuff.

*fans self*

Lordy, lordy where is a good man/woman/animal when you need one?

*goes to the toy drawer*

Fury

Calling for nominations!!!

We have about a week to nominate and choose a new read for September.
So if anyone has any nominations let me know or post them here!

Also if anyone wants to discuss the August selection, The Switch by Diane Whiteside more, let's get to it!

Below are the nominations so far:

1.) Kushiel's Chosen by Jacqueline Carey

In this engrossing adult fantasy tale, the fascinating Phèdre nó Delaunay fights to save her queen and country in a battle whose greatest weapon proves to be Phèdre herself. This sequel to Carey's accomplished debut novel, Kushiel's Dart, finds Phèdre, now Comtesse de Montrève, once again plying her skills as an anguissette--a courtesan for whom pain becomes pleasure--and her talents as a spy. She uncovers a conspiracy of treason and murder and begins an adventure that takes her once more to distant lands in the company of an intriguing cast of characters--and a new confrontation with her old enemy, Melisande Shahrizai.

2.) Heir to the shadows, by Anne Bishop, from The Black Jewels Trilogy which includes-- Heir to the shadows and Queen of the darkness.

In Heir to the Shadows, Jaenelle's vampiric, adoptive father, Saetan, and her foster-family of demons shelter her. To restore her memory and emotional balance, they move to Kaeleer, where Jaenelle befriends the kindred--animals with magical and communicative powers--and gathers a circle of young Queens. She also heals Lucivar, Daemon's half-brother, who offers a brother's love and a warrior's fealty. As she recovers strength and memory, Jaenelle resolves to restore Daemon and cleanse Terreille.

Bishop subverts readers' expectations; the "darkest" powers reside in virtuous characters, demons and vampires are kindly, and Jaenelle's adolescence is more comically normal than horrific. Her vibrant characters and descriptions will keep readers hooked, anxiously awaiting what promises to be a riveting conclusion. --Nona Vero


3.) Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down: Three Tales of Erotic Romance by Sherrilyn Kenyon, Melanie George, Jaid Black

Book Description

In this sexy erotica anthology, three hot authors reel you in with sizzling novellas about alpha heroes who will do anything to get the women they want -- even kidnap them!
Bestselling author Sherrilyn Kenyon presents "'Captivated' by You," the second sexy story in her series featuring the Bureau of American Defense. Rhea Stevenson is a "BAD" agent who has just been handed her most challenging assignment. She must go undercover as a dominatrix to bring in a deadly terrorist. The only upside is that her fellow agent, "Ace" Krux, whom she has long desired, is her training partner. Almost immediately the roles of master and slave are wonderfully blurred and Rhea and Ace unleash a wealth of hidden desire.

From bestselling romance author Melanie George comes "Promise Me Forever," the story of Savannah Harper, who has finally put her breakup with pro-football player Donovan Jerricho behind her. But when Tristan comes home to Mississippi on the eve of Savannah's wedding, he still wants her. And when he carries her off and holds her hostage, Savannah's surprised to find that the desire's deliciously mutual....

From Jaid Black comes "Hunter's Right," the fantastical story of Corporal Ronda Tipton of the U.S. Army, whose chopper goes down in the Arctic Circle. The only survivor of the crash, Ronda happens upon a hidden civilization of Vikings -- where she must face the bridal auction block. Only Nikolas Ericsson, the man who found Ronda, can save her by claiming her as his own according to sacred rights. But will she and this primitive brute give in to the sparks made when their worlds collide?

Sensual and playful, these three novellas will carry you away!

4.) Wild women : contemporary short stories by women celebrating women / edited by Sue Thomas

Contents The tiger's bride / Angela Carter -- Woman from America / Bessie Head -- The English disease / Nina Fitzpatrick -- The smile of a mountain witch / Ohba Minako -- Two words / Isabel Allende -- The debutante / Leonora Carrington -- Liking men / Margaret Atwood -- Simmering / Margaret Atwood -- In the garden / Darcey Steinke -- The odalisque, extinct / Diana Hartog -- Bloodmantle / Tanith Lee -- Sleeping Beauty, revised / Jill McCorkle -- All strapped in / Sue Thomas -- Orchids to you, dear / Fiona Cooper -- Really, doesn't crime pay? / Alice Walker -- Stone-eating girl / Meena Alexander -- The raw brunettes / Lorraine Schein -- I like to look / Kathy Page -- Planetesimal / Keri Hulme -- Perma red / Debra Earling -- The queen's chamber / A. N. Roquelaure (Anne Rice) -- Her thighs / Dorothy Allison -- Four bare legs in a bed / Helen Simpson -- How to save your own life / Erica Jong -- It's bad luck to die / Elizabeth McCracken -- MindMovie / Christine Slater -- A day at the peep show / Veronica Vera -- Roses / Evelyn Lau -- Julia and the bazooka / Anna Kavan -- Silver water / Amy Bloom -- In my next life / Pam Houston -- Many mothers / Beverley Daurio -- Suicide / Mariarosa Sclauzero -- Autobiography / Carol Emshw.

From Library Journal
Capitalizing on the appeal of Clarissa Pinkola Este's popular Women Who Run with the Wolves (LJ 6/15/92), editor Thomas has prepared this volume of short stories that "bring together modern examples of the warrior guises of Wild Woman." Thomas, a novelist and writing instructor whose own "All Strapped In" is included in the volume, divides the works into eight thematic sections-empowerment, sex, and righteous rage, among them-and provides informative introductory remarks to each section. The short stories come from a politically correct mix of contemporary women writers that include Isabel Allende, Margaret Atwood, Pam Houston, Alice Walker, and a number of emerging voices. It's not an essential purchase, but your Wild Women readers will want to check it out.
Debbie Bogenschutz, Cincinnati Technical Coll.
Copyright 1994 Reed Business Information, Inc.

5.) Topping From Below by Laura Reese.

From Publishers Weekly
The title of this devilishly pornographic?albeit literate?novel is taken from the argot of sadomasochism and refers to a rebellious dynamic in which the dominant partner (the "top") is subtly manipulated by the submissive partner (the "bottom"). After her young sister, Franny, is found murdered?bound, gagged and mutilated?Nora Tibbs, a journalist for the Sacramento Bee, discovers in Franny's computer a diary that details her brief affair with "M.," an arrogant music professor in his late 40s. Cruelly exploiting the overweight, love-starved woman, M. forced Franny to submit to a humiliating gamut of outre sexual practices. Convinced that M. is Franny's murderer, Nora sets out to prove his guilt by pretending to submit to his depraved aberrations. But, to her astonishment, she discovers a dark, pagan side of herself when M. enthralls her with intense, if perilous, sexual pleasure. Graphic descriptions of exotic sexual practices (bondage and discipline, sadomasochism, bestiality, etc.) accumulate, counterpointed by Nora's sweetly romantic relationship with a fellow reporter. The suspense, a bit attenuated by thin secondary characters, also is muted by artless foreshadowing, but the conclusion is satisfying in a savage sort of way and Nora's plunge "down, all the way down" under M.'s manipulations will keep most readers gripped even as they're aware that Reese's shameless pandering is manipulating them in turn. Comparison to Story of O is well earned. 100,000 first printing; Literary Guild and Doubleday Recommended for adult fiction collections.

6.) 'Scandal' by Amanda Quick

From Publishers Weekly
Under the Quick ( Surrender ) pseudonym, veteran romance novelist Jayne Ann Krentz (see review of Silver Linings below) offers a tale of Regency England that, while deftly handled with touches of humor, is more notable for its darker side: the hero and heroine rescue each other from past injuries while challenging each other for control within their relationship. Emily Faringdon, a 24-year-old spinster, adores a man she has never met: Simon Traherne, her favorite correspondent on her favorite subject, romantic poetry. When Simon attends a meeting of Emily's local literary society, he indeed seems to be "the man of her dreams," a handsome earl apparently willing to overlook the scandal in her past--a thwarted elopement. But Simon is interested in her mostly as an instrument for revenge: he blames Emily's father for his own father's ruin and suicide 23 years before. Since then, Simon has plotted to destroy the Faringdons. A romantic with a strong pragmatic streak,pk Emily persuades Simon that marrying her enhances his possibilities for gaining revenge and she pk then begins her own campaign to win his affection and free him from the past that has poisoned his life.
Copyright 1991 Reed Business Information, Inc.

Book Description
From a stately country house in Hampshire to the dazzling drawing rooms of London Society, comes an exquisite tale of an elfin beauty, a vengeful lord, and a sweet love that is sheer poetry.

With her reputation forever tarnished by a youthful indiscretion, lovely Emily Faringdon is resigned to a life of spinsterhood, until she embarks on an unusual correspondence and finds herself falling head over heals in love. Sensitive, intelligent, and high-minded, her noble pen-pal seems to embody everything Emily has ever dreamed of in a man. But the mysterious Earl of Blade is not at all what he seems.

Driven by dark, smoldering passions and a tragic secret buried deep within his soul, Blade has all of London cowering at his feet, but not Emily... never Emily. For even as she surrenders to his seductive charms, she knows the real reason for his amorous wit. And she knows that she must reach the heart of his golden-eyed dragon before the avenging demons of their entwined pasts destroy the only love she has ever known...

7. Top of Her Game by Emma Holly

Style and sensuality. Power and passion...There's something about the Parisian boutique Meilleurs Amis that provokes all who enter to blur the line between business and pleasure. No one knows this better than Beatrix Clouet, the daughter of its infamous and not-so-dearly departed founder, and her best friend-and new management trainee-Lela Turner.

Now, as they try to get their professional and personal lives on track, these best friends will have to weigh the price of love and lust-while making their wildest fantasies come to life... --This text refers to the Paperback edition.

8.) The Companion (Regency Vampire Novels) (Mass Market Paperback) by Susan Squires

Now that Elizabeth Rochewell's archaeologist father has died, society mandates she leave the freedom of the Sahara Desert and return to the stifling parlors of Regency England. Ian Rufford is a tortured soul. Captured and sold as a slave to a sadistic vampire, Ian will use any means possible to escape, especially after he realizes that he, too, is a vampire. He decides that an English doctor specializing in disorders of the blood might be able to save him, or put him out of his misery. For Elizabeth, the only good thing about her trip back to England is meeting a handsome, brooding stranger. Ian is aware of Beth, too, but he can't risk dragging her into his own personal hell. Darkly erotic and sinister in tone, this richly detailed book isn't for the faint of heart; but readers who crave the shadowy worlds of Christine Feehan's Carpathians, Laurell K. Hamilton's vampires, or Sherrilyn Kenyon's Dark Hunters will find that Squires' book is just the thing to sink their teeth into. Shelley Mosley Copyright © American Library Association. All rights reserved


Stories:

9.) Tales From Subspace by NIGHTQUEEN1963. http://english.literotica.com/stori...ry.php?id=84817

10.) Night Prowler by Paddymellon http://www.bdsmlibrary.com/stories/...php?storyid=334

The discussion of August's selection will start on Friday!

I can't wait!

Y'all let me know what you would most like or get in more nominations soon because the selection for September must be decided on Thursday!

Fury

Um, Marly's Choice by Lora Leigh. or The Fugitive by Jaid Black.

Yay!!!

More nominations!

Thank you for participating!

Fury

Surprise!

It's time to pick the September Selection.

Since I think only beautiful Graceanne and I are reading along and since she nominated a book by Lora Leigh that my library doesn't have I have picked another book my library does have it is:

Megan's Mark by Lora Leigh

How does that work for you Gracie? If it doesn't let me know.

Our discussion of the August selection can begin at midnight! *GRINS*

Fury

FurryFury said:

Surprise!

It's time to pick the September Selection.

Since I think only beautiful Graceanne and I are reading along and since she nominated a book by Lora Leigh that my library doesn't have I have picked another book my library does have it is:

Megan's Mark by Lora Leigh

How does that work for you Gracie? If it doesn't let me know.

Our discussion of the August selection can begin at midnight! *GRINS*

Fury

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Sounds good to me.

Lemme see . . . 12 your time or mine? Cause I've still gotta wait 2 hours and 45 minutes till midnight. *sets watch*

graceanne said:

Sounds good to me.

Lemme see . . . 12 your time or mine? Cause I've still gotta wait 2 hours and 45 minutes till midnight. *sets watch*

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Whichever, see I'm all easy like that. *grins*

Fury

Did you like the book overall or not?

Yes.

Do you feel it portraits BDSM in a real way, a positive way and/or your way?

Well, I don't know if I felt it portrayed BDSM, but some of the sex scenes were definately kinky.

Did you like the sex scenes in the book?

Most of the time. I would have appreciated some insight into the characters thoughts and emotional feelings, but they were pretty good.

Did you like the rest of the book, the story in it?

Yeah. It was a good, but typical, romance plot line.

Would you be interested in reading another book by this author?

Sure. I woudln't list her as my favorite though.

What did you like best about this selection?

The sex. lol

What did you like the least?

To tell the truth, the way she breaks up with her boyfriend early in the story was ridiculous.

How would you have changed the story?

Um, not sure. I might have given it a bit more meat. I probably would have made all the sex kinky. I felt it ended rather abruptly, that they fell in love and decided to get married in a chapter or two was kinda silly. I wouldn't call that love, I'd call it lust.

Did you like the book overall or not?

Overall I'd have to say I liked it. I certainly enjoyed how H-O-T it was but I didn't love it.

Do you feel it portrays BDSM in a real way, a positive way and/or your way?

I felt it showed a LOT of kinky sex and sex in general but not much of it is BDSM-y. I simply don't buy that MOST people are Bi Switches either. It could be way cool if that were true. I understand it does give the author more to write about but um, I find it just a little too convenient.

Did you like the sex scenes in the book?

Some of them I REALLY liked and some of them I found REALLY annoying.

I liked her with three guys though I had some different activities I would have liked to see happen. I liked her finally getting it on with the chick that was ga ga over her.

I HATED it at the beginning of the book when both of the major characters were having sex with others but whining in their heads. They got off. Their partners got off. It seriously pissed me off that they were all bitchy about it.

I also strongly disliked the "I'm going to masturbate in front of a window that faces her window, pretend I don't know she can see and I will KNOW it turns her on so much that when I climb the side of her building into her open window she will be wet and welcoming thing." I actually had to stop and research if "Emma Holly" was really a female or a dude cause that is just total crap IMO.

I loved her with her kinky childhood artist buddy too. He was the coolest character in the book in my opinion. I liked everyone with him.

Did you like the rest of the book, the story in it?

There really wasn't that much story. I would have enjoyed more story. I would have loved reading more about the food. I don't believe you can make food that makes people want to FUCK RIGHT THEN though.

I liked that the lead female character realized she was not only attractive but inquisitive. I've read reviews that were upset at her for fucking "everyone." I say good for her! I'd LOVE to do that. IMO it's not a reflection on your character, how many or how often you fuck, for a woman. That is some shit we need to put down permanently. She had no relationship ties. She was free to explore. I'm damned glad she did.

Would you be interested in reading another book by this author?

Yes. I do hope her story telling gets better and it's not just sex but the sex was hot enough that I would, especially if I had a willing and available partner while I read it! LOL!

What did you like best about this selection?

The almost NON STOP SEXUAL exploits! *Roar!* Good stuff there, most of the time IMO.

What did you like the least?

I've already covered MOST of it but I'll add this, the lead male character was a lying little jerk. The most dangerous human beings lie to themselves along with all other people. He did that. IMO, he needed a Dom, not this chick. I didn't want them together at the end of the book.

How would you have changed the story?

I would have put more actual story in the book! I would have had her say NO to him in the end. *smiles* She was getting into things she really enjoyed, I hated to see her settle. Also I would have had some sort of resolution between the quasi lesbian, the artist (who I would have liked to see as a Dom,) and the lead female character.

Fury

FurryFury said:

Did you like the book overall or not?

Overall I'd have to say I liked it. I certainly enjoyed how H-O-T it was but I didn't love it.

Do you feel it portraits BDSM in a real way, a positive way and/or your way?

I felt it showed a LOT of kinky sex and sex in general but not much of it is BDSM-y. I simply don't buy that MOST people are Bi Switches either. It could be way cool if that were true. I understand it does give the author more to write about but um, I find it just a little too convenient.

Did you like the sex scenes in the book?

Some of them I REALLY liked and some of them I found REALLY annoying.

I liked her with three guys though I had some different activities I would have liked to see happen. I liked her finally getting it on with the chick that was ga ga over her.

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LOL I have to admit I was a bit disappointed. She gets together with three guys and that was ALL she could think to do with them? I have to admit though, that I liked that not all the guys in the story were physically perfect.

I HATED it at the beginning of the book when both of the major characters were having sex with others but whining in their heads. They got off. Their partners got off. It seriously pissed me off that they were all bitchy about it.

I also strongly disliked the "I'm going to masturbate in front of a window that faces her window, pretend I don't know she can see and I will KNOW it turns her on so much that when I climb the side of her building into her open window she will be wet and welcoming thing." I actually had to stop and research if "Emma Holly" was really a female or a dude cause that is just total crap IMO.

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Can I with you?

I loved her with her kinky childhood artist buddy too. He was the coolest character in the book in my opinion. I liked everyone with him.

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Yeah. I wish she'd ended up with him, instead. He was WAY hot.

Did you like the rest of the book, the story in it?

There really wasn't that much story. I would have enjoyed more story. I would have loved reading more about the food. I don't believe you can make food that makes people want to FUCK RIGHT THEN though.

I liked that the lead female character realized she was not only attractive but inquisitive. I've read reviews that were upset at her for fucking "everyone." I say good for her! I'd LOVE to do that. IMO it's not a reflection on your character, how many or how often you fuck, for a woman. That is some shit we need to put down permanently. She had no relationship ties. She was free to explore. I'm damned glad she did.

Would you be interested in reading another book by this author?

Yes. I do hope her story telling gets better and it's not just sex but the sex was hot enough that I would, especially if I had a willing and available partner while I read it! LOL!

What did you like best about this selection?

The almost NON STOP SEXUAL exploits! *Roar!* Good stuff there, most of the time IMO.

What did you like the least?

I've already covered MOST of it but I'll add this, the lead male character was a lying little jerk. The most dangerous human beings lie to themselves along with all other people. He did that. IMO, he needed a Dom, not this chick. I didn't want them together at the end of the book.

How would you have changed the story?

I would have put more actual story in the book! I would have had her say NO to him in the end. *smiles* She was getting into things she really enjoyed, I hated to see her settle. Also I would have had some sort of resolution between the quasi lesbian, the artist (who I would have liked to see as a Dom,) and the lead female character.

Fury

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LOL Sounds like we agree.

graceanne said:

LOL I have to admit I was a bit disappointed. She gets together with three guys and that was ALL she could think to do with them? I have to admit though, that I liked that not all the guys in the story were physically perfect.

Can I with you?

Yeah. I wish she'd ended up with him, instead. He was WAY hot.

LOL Sounds like we agree.

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Yes, it does!

Did the mastubation scene make you wonder who the hell wrote this thing too?

LOL!

Fury

FurryFury said:

Yes, it does!

Did the mastubation scene make you wonder who the hell wrote this thing too?

LOL!

Fury

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Yeah. lol I quite often wonder that with writers, though. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out half the romance writers are men, using women's names. The reason I say this is I've noticed that (generally) romance/erotica/porn written by men focuses on the act, and ignores the emotions. It's also more likely to go into extreme detail on how everyone looks. Romance/erotica/porn written by women (generally) is deeper. It handles emotions, thought processes, etc.

When I read stories like that one, that are so one dimensional, that deal so little with the emotions that they're feeling, I wonder if a man wrote it. And when it goes so much into what they're doing (like masturbating) I wonder even more. *sigh*

graceanne said:

Yeah. lol I quite often wonder that with writers, though. I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out half the romance writers are men, using women's names. The reason I say this is I've noticed that (generally) romance/erotica/porn written by men focuses on the act, and ignores the emotions. It's also more likely to go into extreme detail on how everyone looks. Romance/erotica/porn written by women (generally) is deeper. It handles emotions, thought processes, etc.

When I read stories like that one, that are so one dimensional, that deal so little with the emotions that they're feeling, I wonder if a man wrote it. And when it goes so much into what they're doing (like masturbating) I wonder even more. *sigh*

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Amen!

I feel you there!

From what I could tell though this is a chick. Go figure.

Fury

I got our selection of this month, Megan's Mark by Lora Leigh this week! *smiles*

Fury