Truth In Fiction

I think most authors and readers would concede that the sex depicted in our stories here is either exagerated, enhanced, edited, augmented, etc. in order to make it more exciting and compelling than it usually is in real life. You know what I mean: mutual orgasms, multiple orgasms, huge organs, all these are more common in porn than they are in real life.

So I'm wondering: Do you mess with reality in order to make the sex more exciting in your stories, and if so, how?

---dr.M.

I have a 'sci-fi bonus' here. I can create all kinds of toys to make things more pleasurable (or, in my usual BDSM style, more painful) for the participants...

Does that count?

ax

Yes. But so far I'm not planning on messing around with size or reality, i.e. no ten inch penises or getting hit on by bisexual triplets. All the sex in my stories is/will be only as good as the best sex I've ever actually had. Which is pretty darn good, it just doesn't happen like that every time. I know some people want to read about their wildest fantasies, which is fine for them, but I'm just not turned on by stuff that I feel couldn't actually happen. But that's just me.

I love realism, so I try to keep my stories as realistic as possible. The only thing I change is that I make the characters a bit more open-minded and mature and considerate than normal human beings are. Kind of like how I'd want people to be.

Yep

I write a lot of my junk from real life events, I'm an older guy who stayed single until I was 30, I was rather shall we say loose natured during the 60's & 70's.
I've seen and done some bizzar things over the years and heard about some spicy stuff, I often use some of this real experience as a base for stories.
I always wind up spicing it up a bit more, not so much the sex acts, but the language used during same and to describe it all.
Real life's fun, but doesn't always entertain the target audience without a bit of added spice.

Pure fiction? well that's all made up isn't it, so I do just that, make it up as I go along.

pops.............

dr_mabeuse said:

So I'm wondering: Do you mess with reality in order to make the sex more exciting in your stories, and if so, how?

---dr.M. [/B]

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I try to develop characters that are believeable, or at least characters that readers can picture in their minds without having to suspend too much belief.

My sex scenes, in most cases, are "too perfect". I try to keep the physical attributes realistic, but the characters' timing, endurance, stamina, etc. probably could only happen in most peoples' dreams.

Pookie

Most of the time I strive for idealized realism. I start out more the way I know it is, but I usually end it with the way I wish it always was.

I don't do outlandish sizes, my people are usually pretty average if I mention that at all. Unless they've been together for a while, they don't blend together like a choreography from Ballanchine, they're clumsy and nervous, usually wishing like hell that they were better lovers. I even do that big no-no in erotica and have them stop to put on a condom.

But once they get going, I let my wish fulfillment gene take over and make sure that they enjoy the hell out of everything. It's the least I can do after I've put them through all the rest of it.

Jayne

If we didn't mess with reality, then all we'd be writing would be autobiographies, right?

wildsweetone said:

If we didn't mess with reality, then all we'd be writing would be autobiographies, right?

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God, there's a boring thought.

Jayne

Most of my scenes/stories are based on some kind of experience, except for the ones with the 3-ways, which I have only dreamed about. Oh, yes, and the [retold] scene in "Will Work For Shoes" was totally a product of my imagination. Yes, I've ramped things up a bit and made everything a little better than it is. Like Jfinn said, my characters deserve it.

My stories are alwaysa blend of reality and fiction. I don't mention breast/penis size, i don't make my characters out ot be supermodels either (in fact i think all my female characters are pretty buxom actually)

I have only had sex with one man in real life and i draw from our sexual experiences alot but most of my stuff comes from my imagination,my characters tend to be completely made up (though most of my female characters have some aspect of myself in them) and my scenes and settings tend to be made up too.


We have poetic license so let's use it!*L*

A lot of the small details in my stories are taken from my own life, the same way a bird or a hornet will build its nest out of stuff that it picks up from its environment.

There's no way I am going to put a dick in any of my stories that's larger than I've actually come in contact with myself. And I'm trying to remember whether I voted on a recent new story--"Messing About in Boats"--or whether I backed out of it in irritation. I was a little pissed off by the way the protagonist was at pains to mention that all of all the characters on the boat there was not a "heavyweight" among them and pointed out that there was something about the yachting life that seemed to exclude big people. He must hang out in different marinas and crew different kinds of boats than the ones I've seen. I would like to mention, while I'm thinking about it, that we once had a Thistle. At this time I (at 5'8") weighed in the 130 lb. range. One of the reasons we ended up selling that boat was that none of us was heavy enough to crew it! (My husband, at 6'1", only weighed around 140 at that time).

Currently, the feminine ideal that you see in magazines and film is an update of the scrawny, heroin-chic stick figure of a few years back--but with enhanced boobs added on. Puh-leeze! Who needs this? One thing that's always irritated me about certain kinds of erotica is that they convey the idea that unless you've got an ideal physique, no one's ever going to find you attractive and you somehow don't deserve hot sex.

Ok, I'll quit ranting now.

I always try and make my stories realistic. If it couldn't have happened in real life, then it doesn't happen in my stories. Well except for the one about the satyr. And the one about the magic spells.

Okay, so I do use a lot of artistic license. But the premise still remains the same: I don't like to write anything that is unrealistic. I'd like to think even my non-human one was still believable.

The Earl

TheEarl said:

I always try and make my stories realistic. If it couldn't have happened in real life, then it doesn't happen in my stories.
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That is fine, if you want to do that. I try to with my BDSM writing; nobody gets 100 lashes, nobody male has ten orgasms a night, etc.

On the other hand there is a perfectly respectable mode of writing which does rely on impossibles, usually in Sci-Fi and Fantasy but not always. One of the most interesting I've seen is the start of "The Training" chain story. My episode is very tame, I know, but some of the early ones are fascinating for the possibilities they envisage.

Interestingly enough, I just read this in a book I picked up in a used book store a few months ago.

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Why is it that everyone thinks a woman just needs a man to enter her to make her roll around wild-eyed in a crazed fashion and scream out in passion? I've read it a hundred times, and that's the main reason I think there's something wrong with me when I didn't have an orgasm after being "banged". I was brainwashed by writers of sexy fiction, and that's just what it is, fiction. Playboy and Penthouse and all the other men's magazines lead everyone to think that every really sensuous woman needs only to have a man enter her to have her scream with passion and writhe with desire.

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I don't know if I write reality or not. Probably not. I don't think I've had anyone have simply a vaginal orgasm before. I think all the orgasms involved clitoral stimulation. I've never given measurements of anything.

Fiction is, by definition, enhanced, or at least, severely edited reality. At most, it is realistic, not real.

That said, what is realistic varies by the reader. I remember a year ago or so, somebody wrote on the boards that people don't meet and fuck within an hour. Well, anyone who has been a bartender will tell you that they certainly do. The odds of this couple having 42DDD breasts and a 12 inch penis among them are pretty slim, and adding the simultaneous orgasm four or five times, well...


I will say that I try to sneak some reality into my stuff. I have a woman that doesn't care for the taste of male ejaculate, I have people whose motivation is less than honorable, and people who are, quite frankly, screwed up. Bless them, because they're what makes fiction interesting.

plausibility?

For me, at least, a degree of plausibility is essential, whether that be in the attributes of the characters, the reason for their encounter or the plot of the story itself.

The erotic stories I like to read (and try to write) are those with situations that could occur in real life.

Octavian

Confession

With the exception of "Frieda the Cat," all my stuff is real life. My own experiences, thoughts, and feelings.

Advantage: I don't have to think up fictional events, characters, etc.

Disadvantage: The stories aren't as interesting as they could be.

I don't think I'd be much good at writing fiction where I had to start from stratch.

MG

I was not really asking about story and plot, but about the sex scenes themselves. My sex scenes are very explicit and very descriptive, and they differ from my actuall experiences of sex in several ways. I think this is to be expected: life ain't art. If it were, then as WSO points out, reportage would be the same as fiction, and it isn't.

So I was wondering if you lnow what it is in your sex scenes that you change to make the real experience seem sexier.

For example: we're all familiar with the 13-inch penis and the 36-DD breasts. That's a very basic and pretty crude attempt tyro's make to give their scenes more appeal.

I tend to make my characters very excpressive. They vocalize, grimace, smile, gasp, grunt, they act out their feelings. They also tend to be very passionate, very swept up in their feelings. They don't stop and wonder whether they've locked the door or whether their ass looks too big. In fact they don't think much at all; they just feel.

I think this is interesting because it says something about what we ourselves look for in a sexual experience. I hapen to like very responsive lovers. That does it for me, more than looks or age or familial relationship or how much experience my partner has. Someone else might like a take-charge partner or breaking taboos as their essential turn on. Alfred Hitchcock always had a frigid, bitchy blonde as his heroine in almost all his movies. I guess that did it for him. So that's what I was asking about.

---dr.M.

Are autobiographies boring?

That depends on what kind of life you're living. My best friend has been bugging me for years to write my memoirs and publish them. Something like "The Budoir Diary".

dr_mabeuse said:

Alfred Hitchcock always had a frigid, bitchy blonde as his heroine in almost all his movies.---dr.M.

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Hey, that's me!
MG

My sex scenes always originate from my real life experiences. I don't care if the curtains are shut or if my ass loks big(it is big,so it'd be weird for it to look small) When I am in the throes of sexual passion all I do is feel. I don't think. Which often leads to burnt offerings for dinner and being late for appointments!*L*

I think all my characters are like that, as I said before my female characters have alot of me in them.

When I write a sex scene i close my eyes and picture it there (like a film)then i try to describe that film with words. I have to see it in my head before it goes down "on paper"

I agree you must suspend of disbelief in stories. I personally will announce which of my stories are fiction or non-fiction. Some authors may exaggerate or enhance certain physical attributes; I will typically leave out details of my "real" stories that would make the stories less entertaining or less interesting. Either way you slice it...

In my sexscenes, there is much more of the stereotypical oh-we're-so-horny-we-gotta-fuck-NOW-and-we're-too-excited-to-get-out-a-clever-word, that we see in movies.

In my part of reality, sex is much more talkative and funny and playful.

jimbo11 said:

I personally will announce which of my stories are fiction or non-fiction.

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I have noticed that some authors do this. Personally, when I see "this is a true story", it causes me to look closer at the story to determine for myself if it could possibly be true. I think authors lose something when this happens. Also, many more times than not, I usually come to the conclusion that the author is not telling the truth, as the plot and/or characters just are not believeable.

What does it matter if it is fiction or non-fiction? Why put me, as a reader, in a mode where I'm not reading just to enjoy the story, but to decide for myself if the story is true or not? I don't see the benefit as a writer.


Pookie