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There are so many women/girls that claim to be 'bi' in threads here, and well everywhere, that it seems a little unreal at times. So as this seems like an honest site i thought id ask if its all genuine.

I go to university here in the UK, and so many girls seem to turn 'bi' and have experiences that it makes me wonder.....is it a phaze, an experiementation, can it be a weapon females use because they know were so intensely fascinated with girls sex? or.........
perhaps female sexuality in general isnt as focused and strong as ours
i mean it may sound silly at first but i had a girlfriend who claimed to be 100% straight, but in converstaion she revealed shed like to have sex with angelina jolie.....she was utterly suprised that i found the idea of sleeping with brad pitt ('even if he came on to me') repulsive. Homosexuality is fine, but erm it doesnt cross my mind and never has
see, the point is i would have thought you go one way or the other because sex is so powerful, its confusing to imagine being so propelled to two sexes... i mean my brain would collapse on a night out.
i know i speak with a male mind, thats why i post the thread...
ladies please are you all really 'bi'? do you think you have a less focused sex drive? am i obsessed by girl sex? i mean it just seems so nice....maybe i just want to know how much of it is myth
 
One thing to keep in mind in terms of women's sexuality is that the taboo against female/female sex is not nearly as strong as that against male/male sex. In fact, many men encourage sexual activity between two females. Many men have fantasies about sex with two women and part of that fantasy is often watching them interact with each other sexually. While women think that the role of females is rigid and presciibed, in fact it is even more so for males. Males are expected to be strong and sensitive and yet males who are sensitive are often looked upon differently. If you are a man you are expected to be the major breadwinner, and to be emotionally strong (whatever that means). Women can and do go into the workplace, assume traditionally male roles and be fully accepted, but when a male decides to stay home and raise his children while his wife works, he better be ready for the backlash from family, friends and society in general. I think the flexibility of the female role allows women to think about sex with other women as possible and many go from there to explore that side of their sexuality.
 
Speaking for myself...

I am a woman, and I have been bisexual all my life. I am a firm believer of that. I never "turned" bi. I never "started out" gay or straight. Being bisexual is who I have been from birth. I just happened to be lucky enough to have a deep understanding of myself at a young age. (Not like "bi curious" women in their 30s or 40s trying to break free.)

I feel, that starting in the late '90s, bisexuality has been something of a "trend". I also feel that those who followed that "trend" are really not bi. They experimented some to please their man or to find out what the "hype" was about. Women in this category really are not bi.

As for women at Lit, I am not sure. I do not know how many women here are trying to be "trendy", are flat out liars, or are genuine.


~Puppi
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Maybe it's cuz females (in general) tend to be more appreciative of both the male and the female form. It is quite often that my SO and I will be walking along somewhere, and I'll see a good looking woman and I'll let him know what I think. We will sometimes engage in conversation. He will ask me, "Do you like her? Do you think she's pretty?" and I'll give him my opinion. I am straight though, and not bi-curious at all. This never, never, NEVER goes the other way around though. He will not point out men on the street and comment on their looks.
 
Dessert said:
Maybe it's cuz females (in general) tend to be more appreciative of both the male and the female form. It is quite often that my SO and I will be walking along somewhere, and I'll see a good looking woman and I'll let him know what I think. We will sometimes engage in conversation. He will ask me, "Do you like her? Do you think she's pretty?" and I'll give him my opinion. I am straight though, and not bi-curious at all. This never, never, NEVER goes the other way around though. He will not point out men on the street and comment on their looks.

I do this sometimes, I don´t have a girlfriend but many female friends, so I point out a men and ask them how they think about him. Sometimes I get very strange results, as a men I often point out guy´s looking like Brat Pit Clones, but somehow they don´t like these guy´s, mhm all my female friends have a strange taste so they laughting everytime I do this. (And I am not gay or bi)

they doing the same with me (pointing at woman etc), I think this is some kind of game we play. :D

This girl-with-girls thing, hey! beauty attracts beauty. And I don´t consider boys beautiful. The things we could have are a beautyful charme, character and personality but real beauty, I don´t think so...

ok, I´m a men, so they ladies have to answer this
 
i ramble but, ay, sall good

i appreciate the intelligent response.
i do feel female bisexuality has become a bit of a fashion.
but i guess my secondary question is if a woman jumps on the idea of being bisexual, who is she doing it for? herself?
the thought of women being together brings a curious set of emotions for a male. yes, its erotic, but coupled with that there's definately a sense of jealousy/envy at something that can't be touched...thats why its been used as a source of erotic fiction for so long.
I see where you are coming from when you say that women are in a more liberal position in life generally these days......but i dont see why this should relate directly to sex and sexual preference. Yeah there is more of a taboo around male sex fore sure..but if these taboos were suddenly lifted i doubt that a comparable number of men would be experimenting or claiming to experiment with their own sex.
so does the average women really fantasize about a same sex encounter? is the sexual drive for it just as strong? or is it just something to say, something only ever really done by a very small percentage of women who have been bisexual or gay since birth?
i may sound cynical, but im not. maybe women's sexualy is much more varied than that of the male?
And im going off on a different tip here but how many threesomes are truely successful. i like the idea of it, but wen it got to the crunch i think id be a bit jealous in parts. i dont know maybe not.
all my female friends have strict codes of conduct about cheating etc, yet they consider it okay to 'interact' (yundastan) with other girls if the opportunity arose. This is why it confuses me, if it was a powerful biological drive then surely it is cheating too.
having sed that id be much more pissed if a girlfiend cheated with a man than with a woman. in fact i mite not be pissed at all if the latter happened. shit. im undermining my argument. okay i would. well i dont know.
men out there would you be angry if your girl got jiggy wit her friend. i know it sounds nice, but think about it! (i mean think about it, but dont work up a sweat)
okay thanks
jah bless
 
I don´t have a girlfriend but I don´t think I would be angry if she is with another woman.
With another men, ok she should tell me about it, otherwise I will become a bit angry. Something like this can destroy the best relationship.

This has something to do with psychology, I think.
She isn´t a real threat, He as evertime in nature is a threat. :mad:
Thanks to the animalside in all of us, but you can get rid of it (just this special feeling, not the whole animalside)

If she would tell me about it, maybe I could understand her feelings too, I´m very open-minded and after all I can´t control her. We are all individuals and so she have to make her own decisions.

A question for the ladies, what would make you more angry (if you become angry?)
He in the arms of him, or in the arms of her?
(I know you have an animalside, too. :D )
 
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Even though I gave you my answer in your first question...

I felt I should answer your second as well...

quimperator said:

...i guess my secondary question is if a woman jumps on the idea of being bisexual, who is she doing it for? herself?

As I stated once before, I have been bisexual all my life. (And, I firmly believe everyone out there is BORN gay, bi, or straight, and that it is our duty to discover who we are through life and "growing up".) I was attracted to adult women long before adult men, or other girls or boys my own age, growing up. And, my first "playmate" (sexually) growing up was a girl. I had to "force" myself to "play" with boys to tell myself I was not this "evil" gay thing. (No positive gay role models in the early '80s... Not to mention, my upbringing at home was not an open minded one!)


And im going off on a different tip here but how many threesomes are truely successful? i like the idea of it, but wen it got to the crunch i think id be a bit jealous in parts. i dont know maybe not.

Threesomes do "work", but yes, it's very easy for one partner to get jealous. When I was first introduced to swinging (and playing with couples), I was single. The females of the couples were always bi, and there was F/F interactions. If I engaged in a threesome that was not with a couple, it was always with a male friend I had, but never a boyfriend (if I was dating someone). I didn't cheat, but I didn't do threesomes if I was dating...

A few years back, I began swinging with a man I loved. We started "slow" (known as "soft swinging"). We were always in foursomes, though, and not threesomes. I feel it is "easier" for a couple to engage in swinging/couple swapping than threesomes since there is always an even number of people playing. ;)

But, my current Fiance and I have been talking about swinging. He's very new to this, but open to the idea. We've talked a lot about the Dos and Don'ts in OUR minds, and what we want and expect from this experience. For Him, I am willing to engage in a MFF threesome to help ease Him into swinging slowly. But, also, I love and trust my Man enough to do this...


~Puppi
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LoneOne said:

A question for the ladies, what would make you more angry... He in the arms of him, or in the arms of her?

If it was not in a swinging situation, I would be angry (not "more" angry, just plain angry) if my Man was in the arms of another woman. I have no problem with bisexual men. In fact, I think it is quite sexy. (But, my Man is straight, so it doesn't matter anyway.)

I think if a woman has sex with another woman, and her SO knows about it, it is not cheating. The same goes with two men having sex together. Put, since I am not Poly, I would be mand and hurt if my Man was with another woman without me. To me, that would be cheating.


~Puppi
:kiss:
 
actually there is a line of academic reasoning out there that believes that we are all a little "bi". The hypothesis states that rather than being either heterosexual or either bisexual or either homosexual, we all fall along a continuum. If it were to be mathematically modelled, 0 for hetero, 5 for bi and 10 for homosexual, there is no one who is entirely a 0 or 10.

Now, the problem with this hypothesis is (1) its hard to acknowledge for most of americans b/c homosexuality is considered "bad" and (2) you have to be open to the fact that you aren't exactly a 1, but you may not be a 4 either. So, at what point would you be willing to try something outside the homo- or hetero- experience.

As stated by other posts, I believe that women are taught by society to be more "open" to these types of relationships. The trouble with sexuality in the world today is simply that women are still to some extent objectified. As such, women with women isn't so condemned.

Anyways, because of all this, a woman who is a 3 is more willing to engage in a sexual relationship with another woman, whereas a man might even have to be a 7 or 8 before he went there. Thus, there are more women open to it, because society allows us to be...and let me tell you guys...you are missing out.
 
okay

so

View 1: society allows women to explore any moderate feelings they have for their own sex (leading to loads of bisexual entertainment)

View 2: we're born with a set sexuality, but it may take us time to accept it

i personally think women approach their sexuality in an entirely different way..but who cares lets stop analysing

Mr.Pitt, you'll get no man love from me (even if you bust a move)

I think im like doubting thomas. i gota hunt me down some girls seks before i believe

thanks one and all.OUt.
 
Several reasons come to mind..

1)Society. Everything teaches that girls are sexy.. it's pushed into girls' minds while they're growing up, and developing sexually, that girls are sexy (like a girl bending over, or wearing skimpy clothes, or whatever.. the reaction is always that it's sexy).

2)The female body. I don't think anybody can argue against the fact the female body is more beautiful than the male body.

3)Females are more curious. Males are satisfied looking at porno mags and their own hand. Females prefer the 3-D things, and other people. They also develop younger than males.

It's hard to put into words why.. it's just one of those facts of life.
 
did you know?

If you took 2 females and 2 males, and put them in a controlled environment that would not push them at all in any direction sexually.. there's a better chance than not of the 2 females ending up having sex with each other. The chances of the 2 males having sex together is slim.

Why? Who knows.
 
I don't know what the hell I am. I LOVE having sex with my boyfriend... But as of late, I've also wanted to fuck around with a chick. I've made out with girls and stuff before... But I want so much more.
 
I Wouldnt be surprised if there are a number of girls who are bi just to get guys...sounds lame, but it is a very trendy thing to do out in Az. It is more socially accepted too...maybe on the premise that two females dont really penetrate each other with some thing penis like...a tounge, finger or toy...but most lesbian sex is a lot of licking, where as men have penetration with the penis. I dunno...maybe it just floats some peoples boats to say they are bi, maybe they are curious or maybe they are full of it. I am personally tired of bi....there are to many people who think just because you think a member of the opposite sex is hot, you are bi. Cant we all just enjoy a little friction in peace guys?


ok im done now

thank you....hahahahaha
 
I have read somewhere that there are six sexes.

1. lesbian.
2. Bi woman.
3. hetro woman
4. homo man.
5. Bi man.
6. Hetro man.

I personaly believe that, if no predjudises were taught to children, all would mature into Bisexual adults. Watch very young children playing together and there is no sexual diferentiation. That develops as the supervising adults begin saying "No! Don't do that."

I was predominantl Homo untill I found out in High School
that girls tasted better .
 
Great Tread

This has been a really great tread. I have enjoyed reading everyone''s point of view. I have to agree with other posters who feel that female bisexuality is more of a trend, propagated by the media. Just my 2 cents.

mahalo
 
The only time I was ever "turned on" by the thought of being with a woman was because it was a turn on to my hubby. I don't consider myself "Bi sexual or bi-curious" I am just always out to do something that will turn him on because it turns ME on.

And I do agree with the opinion that female bi-sexuality has become a sort of trend....it seems like everywhere you look on the web, in many chatrooms, a large percentage (I won't venture a guess as to how big that percentage is) of the women are claiming to be bi-sexual and while I think that many of them probably are, most that I have seen claim it and then sit back and watch all the guy's flock their way and they usually end up chatting with a male.

Oh well...whatever floats your boat, right? *LOL*
 
I have known I've liked girls since i was 8 years old. I'd want to hold their hands more often than I would boys.
My teen years werent much better. Actually alot worse. I had boyfriends who I got hot and heavy with but I always had thoughts for so many of the girls in my class too.
And what fucked me up was that i thought I was lesbian in denial. i mean I liked boys ALOT but I wanted girls too. And i felt very wrong, like I was a freak. That what I thought and felt was unnatural.
Naturally for me, being bisexual has never been a trend.
I am now finally at peace with my sexuality and have been in relationships with both men and women.
One of the big reasons guys come flocking to bi chicks is the perception we are nymphos ready to drop our drawers for either gender at the drop of a hat.
Sorry to break it to you guys, but thats called porn.
I believ in monagmy myself, but also in open relationships. I'm not going to fool around my other halfs back. And yes i have been in threesomes, but thats never been an effort to tun "him" on. Cheating is cheating as far as i'm concerned, I wouldnt sleep with another woman or man if my other half wasnt into it, and i sure as shit aint gonna lie to them.
 
If my moderate experience in talking with men who have trusted me is to be believed, then there are Equally as many men who would enjoy another man as women who would enjoy another woman, given the SAFE opportunity to express it. Not exclusively, either, whichever sex.
Simply sharing pleasure, ideally giving and receiving acceptance without fear or confusion. Sounds almost like a basic human need, doesn't it?
 
I can honestly say I've never desired to be with another woman sexually or even kiss another woman. It just doesn't work for me. I like kissing men and having sex with men; how their bodies feel strong and hard against me DOES work for me.

There was a time when I tried to get into it enough to have another woman in our bed, but I couldn't get there. I finally just accepted that it wasn't me.

I've had MMF threesomes where the guys have gotten together and I found that incredibly arousing, so it's nothing against bisexuality. I'm just not aroused by other women.

Hope I haven't offended anyone on this list. It's just how my mind and body work. Thought I'd share another point of view.
 
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Puppi said:
I am a woman, and I have been bisexual all my life. I am a firm believer of that. I never "turned" bi. I never "started out" gay or straight. Being bisexual is who I have been from birth. I just happened to be lucky enough to have a deep understanding of myself at a young age. (Not like "bi curious" women in their 30s or 40s trying to break free.)

I dunno about from birth (which would suggest there is homo/bisexuality gene) but definately its not something that just turn into. Maybe verb "awake" would be better for many many women who realize bisexual interests later.

I have many friends who admit that they fantasize about other women. Who drool a bit after sexy girls. Who come to kiss me when they are very drunk. And who still are very much heteros. I guess they could have sex with other girl but I doubt they would be in it same way as they would be with some hot guy. It's much about having fun and fantasizing... fooling around a bit.

I guess it can be hard for guys to understand time to time. All fantasies are not such that you want try out. I guess a girl can dream about other girls just for curiosity (at least when I hear about any sex thing I tend to think how it would be for me). Or maybe because modern society pretty much worships pretty girls. I guess the real bisexuality shows if you imagine having sex with girl next door not with that idolized perfect body of actress or model.

And as said by posters before, girls are pretty much encouraged to bisexuality. Its not a taboo at all in most circles. However because of that I think bisexual girls are among most misunderstood ones. We are not all perfect bodied nymphos who fuck with every other good looking girl and do it just as much to please guys - like porn would suggest. :)
 
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