mcopado
Lit's Resident Reverend
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Hi,
I just thought I'd start this new thread. It's based on a series of posts on the Pat Robertson thread.
Lets talk about spirituality, let's talk about God, let's talk about how religions got formed, and how their views changed from the Divine feminine & Goddess worship (where sex was held to be sacred) to the hyper puritanism of christianity, especially the neo-con fundamentalism of today, Let's talk about masturbation, let's talk about homosexuality- what the old testament says and what curiously Jesus didn't say (and why), let's talk about celebacy and Tantric sex...
But let's attempt to do it in a way that respects each other's views, and beliefs, and doesn't fall into meaness and abuse of the participants...Above all let's explore this oft confusing topic, God and sex, and have fun doing it....
If you havn't read them, I would like to recommend Thomas Moore's "The Soul of Sex" and a book, who's author I can't recall, called "The Metaphysic of Sex" that explored sexuality as it was employed and enjoyed in early religions...
Let me tell you quickly about my self. I am a Christian Minister (I call myself Christian, but I have studied and used the texts and insights from all religions in my teachings. I believe that God (the word I use, but not necessarily the right word or the only word) is like the center of a great wheel, and all religions are but spokes of that wheel all pointing to the source, the Divine)
I come from a little known spiritual movment that has been around for over 100 years, we are Non demoninational, non-judgmental, and ordain (gasp) women and homosexuals... We and other movements that came out at the same time are often scorned and called cults by by fundamentalist Christians (oh well)....I was Ordained at Unity Scholl of Christianity in Missouri...Unity is part of a group of denominations known as the New Thought Movement...along with Religuous Science...
Prior to being dragged kicking and screaming by (God, the Divine, The Universal Consciousness) I worked in media production and medical education, and I was also a local "leader" in the mythopoetic men's movement (Robert Bly and other's) in the Detroit area in the mid 90's. By happy circumstance, and a combination of the two skill sets, I became involved in helping teach medical students about the varieties of sexul experiences that humanity does, so that the future doctors would be desensitized to anything out of their comfort zones and be able to provide the medical care that all people should have, in a non-judgmental way. I also directed and shot sex education videos.
I am heterosexual, but through my work with men, have found and been accepted by the "Gay" community, primarily because I am not homophobic and non-judgmental, OF ANYONE. A group of Gay men saved my life when I was at my lowest and planned to end it all, and because of that I have pledged to support the rights of homsexual to live and love...
I would be glad to share my history with anyone who asks, but I am not here to toot my own horn...But to open a pathway to insightful exchange.
I will leave you with one quick snapshot of my view of sex and God....
Sexuality between consenting adults is one of the Divine's greatest Gifts to humankind, a way of giving us a taste of the ultimate pleasure (why do we often say "Oh God" during orgasm? ) It is not just some mechanical tool of procreation as most religions say- (Ask me why and I'll share my opinion.)
If it were truly just some mechanical to create more humans, it would probably feel about as good as taking a leak...Something we have to do , but we don't necessarily think about...It wouldn't be the knock down drag out awsome thing that it is...
I believe that as long as no person is harmed by the act then anything goes, partner swapping, homosexuality, fetishes, masturbation, oral, anal, yadda yadda yadda, are all OK as long as no one is hurt, and all involved go into it with eyes open to the implication of their actions...
I don't personally condone, incest, rape, pedophilia, and infidelity...Because they all harm someone in one way or another....I may not condone it, but I do not hate, or judge the perpetrators of those things...
Enough from me, how about you?
I just thought I'd start this new thread. It's based on a series of posts on the Pat Robertson thread.
Lets talk about spirituality, let's talk about God, let's talk about how religions got formed, and how their views changed from the Divine feminine & Goddess worship (where sex was held to be sacred) to the hyper puritanism of christianity, especially the neo-con fundamentalism of today, Let's talk about masturbation, let's talk about homosexuality- what the old testament says and what curiously Jesus didn't say (and why), let's talk about celebacy and Tantric sex...
But let's attempt to do it in a way that respects each other's views, and beliefs, and doesn't fall into meaness and abuse of the participants...Above all let's explore this oft confusing topic, God and sex, and have fun doing it....
If you havn't read them, I would like to recommend Thomas Moore's "The Soul of Sex" and a book, who's author I can't recall, called "The Metaphysic of Sex" that explored sexuality as it was employed and enjoyed in early religions...
Let me tell you quickly about my self. I am a Christian Minister (I call myself Christian, but I have studied and used the texts and insights from all religions in my teachings. I believe that God (the word I use, but not necessarily the right word or the only word) is like the center of a great wheel, and all religions are but spokes of that wheel all pointing to the source, the Divine)
I come from a little known spiritual movment that has been around for over 100 years, we are Non demoninational, non-judgmental, and ordain (gasp) women and homosexuals... We and other movements that came out at the same time are often scorned and called cults by by fundamentalist Christians (oh well)....I was Ordained at Unity Scholl of Christianity in Missouri...Unity is part of a group of denominations known as the New Thought Movement...along with Religuous Science...
Prior to being dragged kicking and screaming by (God, the Divine, The Universal Consciousness) I worked in media production and medical education, and I was also a local "leader" in the mythopoetic men's movement (Robert Bly and other's) in the Detroit area in the mid 90's. By happy circumstance, and a combination of the two skill sets, I became involved in helping teach medical students about the varieties of sexul experiences that humanity does, so that the future doctors would be desensitized to anything out of their comfort zones and be able to provide the medical care that all people should have, in a non-judgmental way. I also directed and shot sex education videos.
I am heterosexual, but through my work with men, have found and been accepted by the "Gay" community, primarily because I am not homophobic and non-judgmental, OF ANYONE. A group of Gay men saved my life when I was at my lowest and planned to end it all, and because of that I have pledged to support the rights of homsexual to live and love...
I would be glad to share my history with anyone who asks, but I am not here to toot my own horn...But to open a pathway to insightful exchange.
I will leave you with one quick snapshot of my view of sex and God....
Sexuality between consenting adults is one of the Divine's greatest Gifts to humankind, a way of giving us a taste of the ultimate pleasure (why do we often say "Oh God" during orgasm? ) It is not just some mechanical tool of procreation as most religions say- (Ask me why and I'll share my opinion.)
If it were truly just some mechanical to create more humans, it would probably feel about as good as taking a leak...Something we have to do , but we don't necessarily think about...It wouldn't be the knock down drag out awsome thing that it is...
I believe that as long as no person is harmed by the act then anything goes, partner swapping, homosexuality, fetishes, masturbation, oral, anal, yadda yadda yadda, are all OK as long as no one is hurt, and all involved go into it with eyes open to the implication of their actions...
I don't personally condone, incest, rape, pedophilia, and infidelity...Because they all harm someone in one way or another....I may not condone it, but I do not hate, or judge the perpetrators of those things...
Enough from me, how about you?
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