#2902 Uninstall Command not Working

Author's note: found this on a private repository I frequent. I'm afraid it isn't a very nice story... but thought it still might be of interest to readers here. Usernames have been changed to protect anonymity, of course.

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SnackNinja2k2

having an issue where B1020ModLoader won't properly unload mods that are part of my normal set. i run the normal remove command, get the expected confirmation, request a list of installed mods and don't see (hear) it in the list... but behavior doesn't change in response. can still confirm everything is working the same before and after unload, even after a reset. is this a known issue...

TrickyObsidian

Nope, not a known issue afaik. Are you sure it's not just normal unmodded behavior? What is your loadout?

SnackNinja2k2

very sure... i'm just running a subset of Jer's Control Modpack, minus [exhib_randomizer] and [ahegaoface]. and yes, the latest manifest of JCM. i do use the dev prerelease of B1020ModLoader but it's fully patched

SnackNinja2k2

@TrickyObsidian ^

SnackNinja2k2

weirdest part is, I'm running almost identical versions of this loadout on five different instances, but only this one has the issue

TrickyObsidian

... Again... SURE it's not normal unmodded behavior? How well do you know your instance? @SnackNinja2k2

SnackNinja2k2

@TrickyObsidian well, the mod I was trying to unload is [kinsey_slider], if that clarifies things

weed_shark_

five instances? are these all local?

SnackNinja2k2

instance displaying the problem is local. a neighbor. two others share an apt in the same building, other two are remote @weed_shark_

TrickyObsidian

@SnackNinja2k2 Ok, hazarding another guess, this could happen if the install process was interrupted maybe? I know people have experimented with minimal/partial installs and they can be more functional than expected at first.

SnackNinja2k2

same install process on all three local instances, no interruptions. i did a normal spearphish->BLIT to halt operation (just blind airdropped the glyph to them) and then sideloaded B1ML in person with no apparent issues, pulled down JCM, reset, all good. again, no problems loading mods, just unloading

weed_shark_

not white hat installs then.

SnackNinja2k2

@weed_shark_ :P no, like most instances if we're going to be honest...

SnackNinja2k2

ok over the weekend took some time for a closer look and things have definitely deteriorated. i was going to just uninstall everything except [cache_clear] and start over but it's not JUST that unloading doesn't remove stuff, it seems to also max out config for every mod i unload. like i tried unloading [climax_ceiling] and she went from limited to zero. tried unloading [libidial] and now the poor thing can't stop humping the furniture. not exaggerating, i can literally hear her on the other side of the wall. this has seriously never happened to anyone else?

DT

I don't know if you're going to get more than "works on my instance" in response here, @SnackNinja2k2. B1ML is battle-tested and has a lot of contingency handling but wetware is an inherently unstable medium. If you can get [cache_clear] to complete a full run with [-deep] flagged, I'd honestly try the B552 nuke method to abandon this install and wipe evidence if you can access it. (Not legal advice, not a medical professional, "access a 'lisk at your own risk," etc.)

SnackNinja2k2

@DT yes I have seen you post versions of this comment on 10 other issues, thanxxxx

SnackNinja2k2

@DT not that i don't appreciate it but most of those others were resolved and led to patches so i don't want to abandon this yet

bobbo

Plus you're attached to this instance, huh @SnackNinja2k2?

SnackNinja2k2

well yeah

Jaren_2005

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SnackNinja2k2

no, fuck off

Jaren_2005

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SnackNinja2k2

going to try just listing all the mods by name to chum the waters for search indexing. the full list of mods that all my instances share:

[cache_clear]

[lock]

[post_suggest]

[jers_accelerator]

[tweaqlzr]

[call_me_x]

[libidial]

[eager]

[climax_ceiling]

[kinksuite] (i know this is a pandora's box but it's stock, i haven't really put anything in here)

[kinsey_slider]

[autonomic_safety]

my remotes both have [exhib_sync] with the same keys and [confabulator] since i can't keep a close eye on them. but again, they're not the problem. my three locals have [sensory_invert] set to low for sm stuff and both the problem instance + one of the other locals have [subspace] standard config as well. other local has that config reversed so I can switch off with them.

but again... nothing that should be conflicting with the base pack, just a few things disabled. and the full load of the problem instance matches exactly with the other (sub) local who shows no issues. except that i haven't tried to unload any of her mods.

Deep.Green

Maintainer here. Obviously issues with mod conflicts are beyond the scope of fixes for the loader... but tbh @SnackNinja2k2 I can't see anything that strikes me as odd here. I believe everything in Jer's Control Modpack has to run integration tests against everything else to qualify for inclusion. Mmmaybe just try a full reinstall from scratch without disabling any of the standard mods and then see if you can replicate by unloading one at a time?

SnackNinja2k2

@Deep.Green thanks, yeah, guess i have to. still don't know why config would be changing on unload! that was why i brought it up here originally @Deep.Green. anyway. hope her couch arms can last until i sort this out, lol

SnackNinja2k2

ok no fix yet but coming back to this bc i just had a very paranoid thought

SnackNinja2k2

i might not be the only admin doing B1ML installs in this building

SnackNinja2k2

hey anyone subbed to this thread, is there a simple way to tell when or whether a B1ML install was last initiated?

TrickyObsidian

On your instance?

SnackNinja2k2

yes

SnackNinja2k2

on any arbitrary instance really. on anyone

SnackNinja2k2

there has to be a util for this right

SnackNinja2k2

@TrickyObsidian

TrickyObsidian

Sorry, didn't see this. Yes, you can sift out the info by running [wwck] at reset time and piping the full log contents into search somehow, but it's not going to be simple to export. Standard voice output is not suited for this, but B-1020 is really a one-way exploit.

SnackNinja2k2

fuck.

TrickyObsidian

...?

SnackNinja2k2

i obviously can't run [wwck] on MYSELF

bobbo

Basics, basics. B-1020 is demisymmetrical which means it does not resolve to 98%+ of people gendered as men. ;) Which is the original motivation for this repository tbh... relax @SnackNinja2k2

SnackNinja2k2

never said i was man

bobbo

Oh

bobbo

No wonder you needed [kinsey_slider]... ha

SnackNinja2k2

this is fucked

SnackNinja2k2

confirmed there's now a [disable_saccade] mod installed on the problem (neighbor) instance

SnackNinja2k2

i did not put it there

SnackNinja2k2

it's not on any of my other instances, it's not part of Jer's

SnackNinja2k2

seriously seriously what can i run to verify whether i have B1ML installed on me locally

SnackNinja2k2

hey come on help me out please @TrickyObsidian @weed_shark_ @Deep.Green @bobbo ^

SnackNinja2k2

@DT ^

SnackNinja2k2

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Deep.Green

Duplicate of #2983 Conflict between multiple install attempts causes config race conditions [RESOLVED]. Closing as dupe