"Never say never darling," and she smiled.
"With that said, would you make love to Jake after knowing him for all of maybe five minutes?"
She smiled and hesitated before she again said, "I never say never. Considering how he was all over my idea that came from Gail's wedding outfit, I would like to see what his New York shops are like sometime."
"Well that is one thing that is possible some day."
"You'd be bored, but I'd love it."
Chapter Eighty one
"Hi Kathy," Nila said before they shared a brief embrace and kisses on the cheek.
"Hi. You're wearing a pretty smile this afternoon."
Still smiling, Nila told her, "I'm still a little high from yesterday."
"Really? Does that mean you have a lot to share?"
"We have more to share than you may have time for."
"Perry is gone remember, so I have a lot of time."
"Interesting." Owen joined them and kissed Kathy lightly before Nila asked her, "So how are Perry and...what was her name again?"
Kathy smiled and said, "You must mean Ellie, and Perry is fine and he says they're doing a lot and all is going just as planned."
"Well good for him." As Nila led the way toward the patio, she asked, "So there's no intimacy between Perry's boss and Ellie?"
"Perry told me not long ago, there hasn't been for a very long time."
"What an unusual and intriguing arrangement."
"It's very out of the ordinary, that's for sure. Oh, Perry may me call to say hi at some point."
"Wonderful, you can talk to him, and then we can at least tell him hello."
"I'm sure he'd love that."
"So iced tea, beer, wine... something stronger?"
"Could I have something stronger a little later?"
Nila smiled and said, "You can have whatever you want, and when you want. You can have as much as you want for that matter. We do have a guest room after all."
Kathy smiled and said, "I'll try not to drink that much," and then she laughed. Just iced tea for now."
"Of course. Owen stopped at the kitchen and the women moved on to the patio as Kathy said, "I'm dying to hear about everything."
Owen joined them minutes later and served the iced tea, and Nila remained standing for the moment, as Owen sat next to Kathy. "I have to say honey, you do look fantastic."
"Thank you Owen. This is one of those outfits that I really like to wear, but I have to be careful when going out in public."
"Because the skirt is split? Oh love, that can't be a sin."
"No, but I just don't think a woman my age should...you know, show so much leg in public."
"You have great legs, so why not, right honey?"
"I agree, you are so lucky to have very nice legs and there's no reason you shouldn't tease the men, but Kathy I do understand."
"Perry loves me to wear this out for dinner, but then I wear a nicer blouse and of course heels."
Owen was eager to keep things going so he said, "I've never had the honor of seeing you in that short skirt, and I'll bet you wear a sexy top."
She smiled and said, "Yes, Perry always insists on certain tops too. He's so very spoiled."
Nila smiled and said, "Owen is very spoiled too. He almost always gets his way with me."
Kathy laughed and said, "Did you mean to phrase it that way?"
Nila laughed and said, "Well not exactly, but I'm sure you know what I mean."
"Yes I do."
"Okay, so let's get caught up, but to do that we have to take you back to Ethan and Marcie." Owen and Nila took turns telling Kathy the details of that gathering, and Nila even told her, "Kathy, he would pose and model his thongs and sexy underwear, and he stood so close to me that...well I finally told him to come closer and I touched him."
"You didn't. What did he do?"
"I pretended to be closely evaluating whatever little thing he was wearing. I was driving him and myself crazy."
"I'll just bet. Just you telling me makes my heart jump."
At the end of their tale Kathy said, "My God Nila, you ended up with...Ethan's hand was all over you and...so much happened didn't it."
"So very much, and I'm sure we're forgetting a few of the details."
"That brings us to yesterday," Owen calmly said, and that story took longer to share, because Kathy interrupted several times, and each time, Owen or Nila would eagerly expand on those dirty details.
"Nila, I never would have guessed you even knew how to talk like that."
"I never would in public of course, but when Owen and I are alone we...you now."
Kathy smiled and said, "Oh yes I do know."
"Well I just got carried away while Ethan and Candy were here." But then Nila told her about oiling Candy, and Kathy's mouth dropped open.
"Oh God, tell me more. What was that like for you?"
"I still haven't sorted that out. It was fine for the most part. Because of the situation being so out of control I even enjoyed it in a way, but when I think about what I really did...that I really did have a little of my fingers...it's hard for me to even say that again, but..."
"But she liked it?"
"I think so, but we were all so very excited and just going crazy. But I think, at least at that moment...no I'm sure that at least at that moment, she did enjoy my touch."
I can see that happening considering the oil and...well everything. "I've never done that...touched another woman either."
Owen had been content to let the women talk, but he asked her, "What do you think that would be like? I mean could you imagine that, or if you might enjoy trying that one time?"
She couldn't quite bring herself to look at Owen right then as she stuttered, "I...I don't...know...I don't know. Well I guess I wouldn't see anything wrong if I did try it one time."
"Good for you."
Nila smiled and asked Owen, "Would you touch a man one time to see what that was like?"
"With men there is a real stigma that is usually attached to touching another guy. Men have no problem with one woman touching another, but as I understand it at least, most women don't get any enjoyment from watching a guy play with another guy's pecker."
"Okay, leave the woman component out. Would you, and how do you think that would feel?"
"I honestly don't know if I would, and Nila has taught me to never say never. How would it feel? I'm sure it would feel quite different than me touching myself. Beyond that I just have to say I don't know."
Then Nila dropped the bomb she had been building up to. "Owen really screwed Candy. All of those temptations just exploded and it happened."
Kathy looked at Owen and he smiled and shrugged his shoulders saying, "It's like Candy and I had reached our limit of just how much teasing and tormenting each other we could take."
"It was over in minutes," Nila said continuing her story. She pleaded with Owen to shoot his...you know his thick cream all over her," and she smiled at him and said, "And of course he did just as she asked."
Kathy was handling everything so well, but her cheeks suddenly bloomed a little pink, so Owen told her, "But Nila still isn't done."
"How can there be...oh no, did you Nila?"
"Kathy, I oiled Ethan too, and I really oiled his long cock and his balls. Then it was almost like I was tied down. In bondage you know? I was his for the taking and my legs were spread wide for him. I'd lost all control. Yes, that's it, I was powerless to do anything but receive him."
Owen was almost staring at Kathy as Nila used the words they had talked about. Powerless, bondage, control, anything they could think of that might suggest what they suspected Kathy was interested in.
Kathy was hanging on Nila's every word as she said, "Owen watched Ethan and me and photographed us as Ethan rammed his hardness into me again and again. He was so fast and I thought I might faint. I came so hard and I thought I would again, but like Owen he pulled out and damn, he unloaded on me, and Kathy he seemed to cum forever all over me. When I touched myself it mixed is cum with the oil from his sweaty body. It seemed like forever before I finally settled down, but once I did, I was utterly exhausted."
Kathy sipped the last of her tea before she said, "I'm struggling for words Nila. I never in this life would have guessed you'd do something like that."
"Until yesterday afternoon I thought of myself the same way. Now I don't know how I see myself, except I do know I have changed my opinion on certain things."
All of that has to be life altering I'm sure."
"That's for sure. That sensation of being bound and helpless for example. Oh, are you ready for something stronger to drink Kathy?"
"Yes, I'm very ready."
"I'll bring it out," and she left Owen and Kathy to chat.
Chapter Eighty Two
With Nila gone, there was a lapse in conversation for a minute, but then Owen said, "I'm sure just listening to our nearly unbelievable stories played with your thoughts to some degree."
"Yes, very much so, and like Nila said, I'll need time to really think about things. So much happened in a pretty short time didn't it."
"Yes, and that applies both to when Marcie was here, and yesterday with Candy."
"Owen, you've had so many adventures."
"It's interesting that you mention that, because Nila and I were talking about that just last night after she'd had her adventure with Ethan. You're right of course, I have been very, very lucky."
"Some luck without a doubt, but you are charming and exciting, and yes even handsome, though I think that is more important to men than women. We have a different idea of what is handsome, and of course how important that detail is anyway. For example, I've seen some pretty average to ugly looking men with some very attractive women."
"I see your point. I wonder if I'm looking at what I consider as erotica or passion is terribly different than what women might see as good erotica."
"That's a good question. Have you ever shared your work with other women to find out?"
"Just Nila, but that might be a good idea, assuming women would even consent to study my photographs and video clips."
"I can't imagine that being a real problem It merits some thought though."
"Yes, I'm bound..."
"Oh really," Nila said as she reappeared. Sorry honey I interrupted you. I believe you were talking about bondage right?"
"I was? Oh, no that was...well now I've lost my thought."
"I'm sorry. Kathy, I thought you might enjoy a mai tai that I mixed earlier. I hope you like it, because there must be a hundred different recipes for this drink."
Kathy tasted her drink and smiled before she said, "I better drink this slowly."
"And a mai tai for me, and for you honey, your favorite scotch."
"Thank you. He tasted his drink and then said, "So where were we?"
"Bondage."
"No, not that," and he smiled.
Kathy was listening intently as she sipped her drink, and with a smile, Nila said, "Go slowly." Drink that too fast and you'll think you've been tied down."
"It's very tasty and dangerously easy to drink. One too many of these and I wouldn't know if I was tied down or not."
"I wonder what that would be like. I mean being tied up, or restrained in some fashion. Have you ever tried it Kathy?"
I..."
"I'm sorry, that's a pretty personal question."
Kathy tried to laugh before she said, "I just learned that you were screwed senseless yesterday by Ethan, so I can answer that question, but let's not tell Perry right now okay?"
"Well of course if that's what you want."
"Well what exposure I've had to bondage was with the guy I dated before I met Perry."
"Oh good, tell us about that would you?"
"Have you ever...well probably not since you two haven't been together all that long. Anyway, we took turns tying each other up, teasing each other and just seeing who could dream up what. No pain of course, but an occasional...oh pinch or something like that. He sterilized a pin once and while I was tied up stuck that in my butt and left it there for awhile. As you can imagine, that made me jump. Anyway, we tried different things."
"I guess you didn't care for it then since it doesn't sound like you and Perry play with it."
"I liked it. I guess things just happened and Perry and I haven't even talked about that."
"So he doesn't know about that other guy?"
"Only a little, because we've never really gotten into those areas."
"Tell us what that's like. Bondage I mean. What you like or don't like about it."
Kathy enjoyed a generous taste of her drink and then said, "Well there really isn't anything that I could say I don't like about it, or at least with what I've experienced. I wouldn't want to get into that a lot, but once in awhile it was fun to break out and do something totally different. Making love in different rooms, or outdoors or...well one time we made love in the snow and we were naked, and while sober too," she added with a smile. "Anyway, things like that are great to keep life exciting, but once in awhile I liked playing with ropes and...well other things. You've never tried it with any guy Nila?"
"I never have, have you tried bondage Owen?"
"I don't know much about it and no, but...so...so if say I tied you so you couldn't...I don't know," he said pretending to stumble with his thoughts. "So...well let's say I tied Nila up so her arms were out or over her head or something like that, and say...well what if say we had a friend here and I threatened to undress her while company was here, or say I actually did that. Say I just pulled her shorts down and company saw her panties. Those are pretty silly ideas probably, but I'm just trying to give a quick example."
"You're doing great. Yes, things like that."
"Owen, tie Kathy up for a few minutes so she can pretend she's with her old boyfriend and they're playing and we can have fun with the camera. Would that be okay Kathy?"
Taking a deep breath she paused for only an instant before she said, "I don't mind at all."
"Great, and then later you can tie me up too honey."
"Great, I just happen to have some soft rope in the garage."
When he returned he sat down and put the large coil of rope and his camera in front of him as he said, "I just remembered Alana talking about the bondage thing with her neighbors. I'll bet that brought some memories back to you."
Looking away for a moment Kathy admitted, "Alana really did bring back some old memories."
"I saw some two by fours in the garage and that made me think of those wood X things she said they were tied to. It does sound like something like that would work great."
"It would. I mean why wouldn't it?"
"Exactly. With your arms and legs spread wide, I can imagine a lot of things could come to mind to try." Then standing up, he said, "Let's go over to the pool house so I can use the arms of the awning for the ropes."
Standing up he pulled Kathy closer to him and they took the forty foot walk to the pool house, their arms around each other, and Owen's other arm around Nila.
Chapter Eighty Three
Nila watched Kathy closely as Owen strung the ropes, and a minute later Kathy's wrists were gently bound with her arms outstretched. "Are the ropes too tight Kathy?" Owen asked her softly.
"They're fine."
"This is all new to me so tell me if you get too uncomfortable."
"I will."
Nila didn't quite know what to do with herself for the moment, but she made sure Kathy saw her smiling at least. For that moment she wasn't even aware she was holding Owen's heavy camera. She was eager to see how Kathy would respond to the little things they had planned for her, but she was a little apprehensive about how this, what was to her and Owen, a whole new world. Would Owen still want to tie her up next even after all that they planned for Kathy? Then she got a funny feeling in her belly. Would Kathy want to be involved with teasing her? If so, in what way? Where she and Owen had time to discuss things, what Kathy would or wouldn't do would be totally spontaneous.
Owen slipped his hands under Kathy's top and caressed her warm back as he smiled and softly kissed her. "This is all so different, but already I like it," and he explored more of her back. "Nila honey, this is pretty wild, come see how it feels for you."
As soon as she handed Owen his camera, he went to work as Nila smiled and put her hands on Kathy's hips. "This is a little awkward isn't it?" she asked Kathy. Awkward but nice. I was going to say fun, and it is that, but...is this anything like you used to enjoy?"
"Very much like it in fact." As nervous as she still was, she liked being in restraints again. It had been so long ago, but those memories were flying back to her, and she was getting that special feeling deep inside of her again.
Nila made sure she smiled, but most of her energy and attention was on what she was supposed to do. Keep the moment light, she told herself. Don't give Kathy the feeling of being seduced by a woman, and that certainly wasn't what Nila was considering. But just the same, she was very aware of where her hands were and how it felt to be touching helpless Kathy.
Being just an inch taller than Kathy, when Nila explored her bare back up to her shoulders, that put them very close together. Almost breast to breast in fact, so Nila kissed her lightly and smiled again, but much more softly, and their eyes locked onto each other as Nila unfastened the bra hooks under her hands. She felt Kathy take a quick breath in surprise, and that was where that tease was planned to end, but as Nila stepped back just a little, she kept her eyes on Kathy and brought her hands around to explore the swell of Kathy's breasts as the bra was coaxed up and out of the way. A gentle touch of her nipples and Nila was surprised to find them very firm and larger than she expected them to be. Jumbled thoughts flew through her mind as she slipped her hands down Kathy's sides and then stepped back, still holding onto the remnants of her smile.
This had to be Owen's show, she reminded herself as she took the camera from him, but certain thoughts lingered. Thoughts like her oily fingers on and between Candy's soft lower lips. It wasn't a matter of that being sexually excited from that but...if that wasn't the case, what would make that brief event such a strong memory for her?
Nila suddenly realized that while her mind wandered, Owen's hands had found their way under Kathy's top again and had discovered her bra was loose and pushed up. "Honey," he said, "Did my sexy Nila unhook your bra for my benefit or hers?
"I just know that she touched my nipples and breasts," she half whispered.
He put his hands on the sides of her breasts and paused saying, "Like this I'll bet. She felt the round inviting smoothness of your breasts and couldn't resist touching more of you...like this maybe," and he gently took a nipple between his thumb and finger.
As Nila watched from just a few feet away, Kathy closed her eyes for a brief moment and softly said, "No..." and then even more softly said, "she just caressed and teased."
"Like this then," and he brushed his fingers over the tip of her nipple.
"Oh God." Kathy wasn't even sure of what Nila had done at that point, but she said, "Yes, something like that." And then the camera softly clicked twice as Owen slowly pushed Kathy's top up and exposed her breasts to their eyes.
"Nila, look honey, I've found Kathy's sweet and irresistible breasts," and he kissed each nipple as Nila tried to work the camera, and at the same time stare at Owen almost suckling at Kathy's breasts.
"Oh God, I want to put my arms around you Owen."
"Sorry honey I'd like that too, but maybe later. I've suddenly been flooded with ideas for things we can share. Like you said earlier, we have all the time we could possibly need or want."
Kathy was staring at Owen as she asked him, "What kinds of things?"
"Oh simple things like this," and kneeling in front of her, he reached up under her short skirt and locked onto her eyes with his as he slipped her panties down until they were at her knees. Looking up at Kathy he said, "Nila be sure to get a picture as I take her panties down, because I want to show it to Perry and Dan later."