"Ok, I will Jim" as Beth hugged his arm tightly one more time, but this time I noticed how she pressed it into her breast as she did and then she kissed his cheek and gave me a wink as she said "Thanks Daddy"
Beth then looked at him and said "Would you let me out? I see one our major accounts at the bar and I'd like to say hi. I'll bring us back another round when I come back. I promise not to be too long."
Jim eased out of the bench seat and let her out and I noticed he didn't try to stand to straight. A quick glance told me that there might have been a bit of reaction from the boob massage Beth had given him in her hugs at his arm. The thought if it made the corner of my mouth turn up in a half smile and I have to admit it was kind of a turn-on knowing she had that much influence on her father. He slid back into his seat as soon as she cleared it.
With her gone, we just looked at each other almost as if waiting for the other to speak. I kind of let out a half hearted chuckle and said. "Well, this might be a good chance for us to talk real quick. I have a couple things I'd like to talk to you about."
Jim kind of nodded his head and his eyes dropped in almost a shy way. "Yeah, I can imagine you do."
This time I did truly chuckle as I said "No, this isn't anything bad. I just wanted to let you know it's cool with me. Both Beth and I have kind of evolved sexually together, especially this summer and she told me she told you about me and my aunt. To come out and just say it, the family thing turns both of us on a lot so it was no leap for me to give my blessing to her to go ahead if the opportunity came up. Just to let you know though, we tell each other everything we do, like with my aunt when either one of us have been alone with her and she was pretty descriptive about your dinner last Thursday, so I got a good idea what it was like. I just wanted to let you know I'm not pissed or anything. Actually thinking about what taboo things might be happening when it went down I found myself aroused especially when she got home. We had quite a hot time talking about it. To be honest, seeing her so excited and hearing the details is like we were doing it together in a strange way."
It was Jim's turn to chuckle. "Yeah, I heard. She told me about it the next morning. I think I told her I'd have a hard time getting the image of you guys out of my mind that morning, and it ended up being true. I fought the impulse to get a hard on all day thinking about we did the night before and the description of what you two did when she got home. As far as your comment of it being "like doing it together" her mom and I were in a similar situation with different partners occasionally." Jim added "with each other's full knowledge of course, and it did feel like we were doing it together. So I know what you mean."
Jim paused and seemed retrospective for a moment, then said "Situations like that will either strengthen your bond or it destroys it, but you guys seem to have a strong bond to start with. Especially after what's happened with you and your aunt and now between her and I." Then he went on to explain what he meant in a bit more detail. What he said made sense to me.
We both took a slug of our beers and then Jim continued. "I'm glad you told me this John, and face to face to top it off. I like that and I'll make sure this doesn't get out of hand. I want to continue our dinner nights, they've been great. We actually really talk to each other. "
I smiled and nodded my head "Yes she really enjoys her time with you to when it's the two of you alone. I'm not worried about anything getting out of hand right now. I'd suggest just follow her lead and if she gets a bit too crazy I'll help you out calming her down, though I doubt that will be necessary. One thing I really love about her is she can keep a cool head."
Jim grinned and said "So, I guess you've seen the pictures..."
I nodded with a smile and I didn't want to embarrass him so I just said "Beth's mom was quite a hottie. I thought of her several times when I was a kid, if you know what I mean."
Jim gave a half laugh and said "I thought of her often too, and I was even married to her. To be honest, I still do at times. Eleanor has her qualities, but she's nowhere near what Maggie was like. I miss her and Beth is so much like her."
I paused again for a moment then said "I know. Beth really misses her too and she's very proud of the fact she's a lot like her, even on the sexual side" I said with a knowing grin. "She filled me in on a bit of it."
Jim chuckled and responded with "Yes she is; a lot more than I expected she would be."
"I'm glad she is too." I knew our private time was limited so I think so I then said. I glanced at the bar, Beth was chatting with a middle aged couple sitting there, so I went on to say "Before she gets back I have one other thing I'd like to talk to you about. I just wanted to let you know I really do love your daughter. As we've already said, none of us want to play the field anymore, which kind of brings me to something I want to ask you."
He looked at me and shrugged his shoulders and said "Sure, shoot."
"I want to make it official and ask Beth to marry me. It will be a long engagement, we've talked about it, but we both agree we'd wait until after I finish school and get a job. We'd live at Mom's house until then. But... at least it's a commitment and I'd like to have your blessing on this."
Jim looked shocked, and suddenly sat up in his seat straighter looking at me as if he didn't believe what I just said. Then he relaxed and placed his elbows back down on the table. A smile came to his face as he said "I thought I'd never hear those words. Guy's just don't ask fathers for their daughter's hand I marriage anymore. You're the only guy I ever trusted to be with her and I know you'd die for her if it came to it, so of course I give my blessing! Does she know? She seems happy enough."
"No, I plan on asking tonight. I have the ring in the car. Wish me luck!"
"Ohhhh, you got it! But knowing her feelings toward you, I doubt you will need it" he said with a chuckle and a smile.
I sat back in my seat satisfied and thinking everything had gone well. I took the last swallow out of my beer and looked to the bar for Beth. I lifted my beer glass and she smiled and got the bartender's attention for 3 more.
Beth started back with the three beers and Helen walked up just as she got to the table and said "I would have gotten those for you Honey! I was just coming back to check on you guys after my break."
Beth explained it was Ok she was at the bar talking to a friend and just brought them back it her. She also mentioned to the barkeep to tell you to put them on the tab for this table as she slid in next to me and looping her arm through mine this time.
"Helen... this is my daughter Beth and John, her significant other. They plan on staying for dinner. This will be my last one for me otherwise there will be hell to pay when I get home! Put these beers on my tab and their food and drink after I leave. Tonight, it's on me. I'll pick up the tab tomorrow."
I started to object but got cut off from both Helen and Jim as I caught her saying something about finally cracking open that wallet of his. We could tell they knew each other well and the comment was friendly banter you only develop over time.
The three of us finished off the second beer just chatting away. Everyone, including myself was in very good mood and the company was both fun and relaxing.
As Jim got close to his last swallow, he then told us that Eleanor was going to a two day quilting club convention that would require an overnight stay next Wednesday and Thursday and asked if we'd like to come over and put a few steaks on the grill that Wednesday night. Beth and I looked at each other then said sure, why not, so we made the date.
Beth's dad slid out of the booth and looked at the two of us with pause then said "You know I'm really glad the two of you came in tonight. You really made my day! But... alas, it's time to go home and for one more night of servitude in my service to my queen, so I bid you adu!. You kids take care and have a great night!"
We both laughed and Beth said "You too Daddy! And thanks for the drinks and the dinner... and OH! Lets meet at the Walmart where we did last time at the usual time. Then we can go wherever we want and ride together."
"Sure thing Kitten! I think it's more fun that way too. You two take care now..." and off he went.
Our seat was facing into the bar and we watched as he made his way to the door, noting the spring in his step which I don't think was because of the beer, and as he reached the door he turned and waived with a smile.
We waved back and as he passed through the door Beth said "Wow, what did you say to him? That seemed to go better than I ever imagined!"Beth giggled "How did it start? Was he ever apprehensive before that? I was wondering if he might get scared off or something."
"When you left and I said I had I had some things to discuss with him, I think he might have thought I might have been pissed but I mentioned right off the bat I understood how hot the incest could be from my own experiences and that I was cool with it. That helped cut the ice.
I came right out and told him it was extremely exciting to both of us especially after fucking my aunt. I didn't tell him I was wary at first but I did say that it kind of turned me on when you got home and I saw how excited you were about it. I actually admitted that somehow it was like doing it together in a weird way, imagining what might be happening as it actually happened and then finally hearing the details."
"Oh my god, what did he say about that?"
"Well, He surprised me by admitted he knew the feeling and what I meant, adding that your mom and he had a similar situation. He told me that if a couple can survive seeing or knowing the other's having occasional sex with another person, with permission of the other of course, made them feel like they were doing it together too. I have a feeling they might have swung with more than that one couple he told you about, but it sure sounded like there was some one on one fucking happening on the side."
"He also said situations like that will either make or break a relationship, but he said with your mom and him, it made theirs stronger, and that what's we've experienced between me and you-know-who and you and him might just indicate we're the same. But he did add he'd advise taking it a step at a time."
"I wonder if he thinks it's now out of hand after last week. I hope he didn't later regret it and it only be a onetime thing."
"Ha, I don't think you need to worry about that. I never told him to cool it and he even mentioned that he really liked your dinner nights and wanted that to continue and he promised he wouldn't let things get out of hand. I told him I wasn't worried about that and suggested letting you take the lead and see where it goes. So, I don't think I scared him off. Actually it was a good talk, though it really seemed weird talking to him on this level bout this subject."
"Mmmmm, good! And don't worry, I won't let it get out of hand either, but I must say, I did find our little fling extremely exciting in a taboo sense and I love having access to him like we do Mom" she said with a quiet giggle, adding "I'm getting wet just thinking about it."
"So, are you still going to try to organize a threesome for him? Did you ask Mom about Darla?"
Beth grinned and said "Yes, she said she had no problem with me asking her but just reminded me to keep our little arrangement with her secret. She seemed to like the idea that Darla would be her half sister too.
I called Darla today and talked to her. She got a kick out of me asking her, she didn't give me a yes, but she did say she'd think about it. She did show some interest though, which I thought was encouraging. She asked if this would be a one-time thing and, when was I planning on doing it... questions like that."
"What did you tell her?"
"As far as when, I told her I didn't know. I'd have to find out when everyone could be available and decide on where too. As far as being a onetime thing, I think I'd let Daddy know it probably would be one time but... in reality if everyone liked it I'd have no problem doing it again. She said let's leave it as a onetime thing for now adding the more times someone like me sees a married man the chances of getting caught gets too high and she doesn't want to break up any marriages."
I chuckled "That makes sense. So... did you and Mom have a hot night last night? She seemed totally out of it this morning" just as Helen showed up at the table with two fresh beers and asked if we knew what we wanted for dinner or would like to see a menu.
We chose to see the menu and while she went to retrieve them In a low voice Beth asked "What did you and Mom do Monday to get her so excited? Something's really got her happy. I can't figure out if it's the thought of the 3some they plan on having with Steve or what."
Helen returned with the menus and another round of drinks. Helen told them about a new menu item for Chicago roast beef sandwiches and said they had become really popular, if we'd like to try them. We said we would and added a basket of fries to share on the side too and Helen took off to submit our orders leaving us alone to continue.
Beth's next words were spoken in an animated whisper more than a low vice."Mom told me what she has planned to shock your dad... Oh my fucking god! At first I didn't think she was serious but then I realized she was! Do you think she's right? Do you think he'll take it without blowing his top?"
I had to chuckle "I actually saw Mom doing the calculations in her head over the last few days, so I can see where she thinks it won't cause a divorce. Did she remind you of the fantasies he wanted to hear before and that the thing she's most angry about was that it was only one way?"
Beth nodded yes "Yes, she had to do all the talking and he seemed to favor the ones about her being with other men including a young stud that as far as he was concerned could have been you from the way she described the young one, so maybe being with another man may not be such an outrageous idea, but it's still a gamble.
"I know... but I can see where it gives her some confidence to try, plus there's you and Darla. You two make quite a carrot at the end of the stick."
"Oh, I couldn't believe it when she told me about the videos she wanted to make with her eating Darla while you fucked her from behind and the second one with her giving you a hot blowjob. And you can really insert them in one of theirs?"
"Actually I can do better than that. I can take hot scenes from several of them and re sequence the scenes with ours t make one totally different, kind of like a compilation you see on porn sites."
That would be so cool." Beth giggled and said "Mom can be so deliciously devious sometimes! But, I must admit I'm a little jealous."
"Why's that?"
"I know I get to film them but I don't get to be in any of them! Don't you think it would be hot to see his wife munching on a young hot pussy?"
I had to smile. "I bet you I know the answer to that one. Just in case this does go sideways, it's only Mom, Darla and me being affected on film. But, if it's successful, I'm sure you'd get your chances for a lot of things. Maybe he'll guess you're the mystery character. There will be no faces in the shots other than Mom's. Darla's not supposed to speak during the scenes, only moan if she needs to. It's the same for me. Both of them know he'll guess its Darla's pussy she's eating and once he sees my cock, which seems to be a larger clone of his own he'll guess it's mine."
"So who would be the mystery character? There's only three of you in the scene and I'm not in it at all" asked Beth with a questioning look.
I looked at her and grinned "Once the shock's over maybe he'll wonder who was the videographer..."
Beth's eyes went wide as she giggled as she said "Oh my god, I never thought of that! And I know Mom has told him we're seriously back together and I'm staying with you all... Oh my god!" she repeated with a laugh.
Beth took a sip of her beer and then grinned. "Mom said I'd have my chance later if it went right but did she tell you what she's going to demand to get back in her good graces?"
"Only that he has to open up and start being verbal with her if he ever wants to get in her pants again or before he'd have a chance of joining our little group. I never did ask her if she'd make him not see his Chinese friends or anything like that."
Beth laughed, "Yes, but did she say exactly how?"
"Not really...." I said as I felt my curiosity building, apparently Mom had planned more since we were with each other last.
"Well, I think she accepts the sex they are having it seems to justify our sexual situation with her, but to get back in her bed he's got make a movie of himself jacking off as he fully describes having a hot session with Mom. That would appease her... but if he guesses the pussy Mon's eating is Darla and he wants a taste of that too, he'll have to make another separate video about what he'd love to do to her in detail during a threesome. Mom says if it gets that far, then we might introduce a video of the three of us and if he wants a piece of me, he'd got to make one for me too if he wants to find out how it would be to have me as a loving daughter."
I said softly "Holy shit!" just as Helen rounded the corner with our dinner.
As we dug into our sandwiches I thought of how Mom was sticking it to Dad and it came to light that Mom's wisdom was showing. Instead alienating him, she's offering him an out via a sex act. One that should be easy for him to fulfill as we well know now after seeing how verbal he can get on the videos we've seen.
Hopefully Dad won't take this as an ego thing and instead see it as another level of potential sexual excitement for all. After all Mom's not asking for him to act submissive or anything, just be explicit about his own sexual thoughts about his own wife, at least to start with.
We both found ourselves famished and were impressed with the sandwiches, the taste was exceptionally good and they were a bit fun to eat being so wet and drippy, but we managed to keep our conversation going though it slowed it down a lot.
I bit into a fry as I asked "So, how did mom like the toys?"
Beth swallowed her bite and giggled "Oh she absolutely loved them... She came using most of them." Then she took another bite.
"Did you start off with them or surprise her with them later?" I asked as I took a sip of beer.
Beth dabbed her lips with a napkin before saying "Later... Mom and I both were in a very oral mood to start. Ha, she kind of reminded me of Darla, she wanted to go down on me right away which was good because we were in our room. I was so hot and worked up from the anticipation that it didn't take too long for me to cum and after I did it was only seconds before I had my face buried in that hot pussy of hers... god, I was so fucking turned on" then paused and took a sip of her drink.
"Anyway she had one of those short intense orgasms, you know the kind that just makes her hotter, which was good because I had no intention of leaving her alone. I had her flip over with her face in the mattress and her ass in the air and I started eating her ass and finger fucking her. She really enjoyed that but before she stated to cum I stopped and told her to stop rubbing her clit for a min. I had taken all of the toys out of their packages and had them in the bag which was next to the bed and pulled out that anal probe I got, remember the one the waves it that looked like balls stacked together?"