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Someone just try to stop me following your excellent work.
Been a fan for quite a while now, and you're talking better things in the future.
I'm definitely excited.
Hopefully this article will help me get my ideas into some sort of order.
Thanks LC. Till next year.
Informative and fun
I enjoyed this immensely. There is a lot of good information here, but the delivery of said info was even better. It was, as you said, more of an easy going conversation with the reader than a true essay and I liked the style.
Your humor comes through loud and clear like it does in some of your stories.
Good job and congratulations on number one hundred.
What are you doing?
Your stories are unreadable but this pile of words takes opacity to a new new level of meaning. Are you conducting some kind of celebrity campaign? Extolling readers to declare you the Brightest Star in all literotica?
great insights!
I enjoyed this essay. I appreciate your insights. So as not to be one of the gushing "you're so great fans" I will offer a counter point. I think it is Ok for a fictional incestuous couples to explore and focus on other fetishes and kinks. After all they have already busted through the envelope and who better to trust than one's own blood. Sure the writer may lose some readers or not get as many 'hits'. The author should still be able to write from the heart and parts below passionately. Great authors should push envelopes and break rules. Thank you again and I am still your fan and you are an inspiration to my mind, heart and parts below.
LC lays it down for us
This is your Danse Macabre. I really enjoy your laying out the technique and tropes you work with.
I'm a massive sucker for m/s incest romances b/c that storyline speaks to a rather deep longing for a better emotional connection with my mom. IRL I wasn't sexually attracted to her but emotionally entangled, hoo boy, long grim story for another time.
FWIW I agree about 99% with your thoughts on what works why.
The buildup and need to at least address the guilt and internal sorting out process before the "bow chicka bow wow" ensues are emotionally critical for me to dig the realtionship described as a real love thing, not just a depraved whim.
Depraved whim incest stories strike me as boring, abhorrent, or risibly bad .
I'm NOT a fan of once the taboo's busted, everyone fucks everyone with the whole BDSM toybox, so definitely with you focusing on the relationship between the happy couple. It doesn't have to be vanilla sex, but commend your recognizing we want fluffy, fun, lovemaking.
In the end, it's about two people showing each other and celebrating how special and beloved they are to each other that makes me vote 5* and gets me to my happy place emotionally and sexually.
My only cavil is that while I see tonnes of m/s stories celebrating the lust, guilty acknowledgement, seduction, the first fuck, and the honeymoon period, barely give a paragraph epilogue of their lives together afterward.
Stevie 3624 and a few other Lit authors have expanded on that better and I must commend your own efforts with that.
I can understand writng about how the couple handles bummers at work, bills, daycare, or the prosaic complications of daily life don't give you, the author, a boner to write about.
However, it inspires me to think the happy couple can make a go of it DESPITE all the usual frustrations as well as the special challenges of their taboo relationship.
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I've got a question
When you're in the middle of writing one of your mom/son incest stories, how to do you actually keep yourself from thinking about your real mom? I don't have any problem with that while I'm reading those kinds of incest stories, but when I try to write one, something just feels so wrong about it and I get all creeped out even though I'm not at all writing about my own actual mother, nor have I ever had any of those kinds of thoughts about her. I just find the idea of it overwhelmingly sexy.
I also see what you're saying about the darker fantasies begin less popular. I never really worried about the incest category's negative connotations, though. It's kind of like the Loving Wives category - people either love it or hate it, so there's no real point in trying to defend it. Still, I actually prefer a bit of drama in the mix. Your story, Mama's Boy, is one of my favorites that you've written. What I really like, though, is where a mother does something that jeopardizes her son's love for her and she has to beg for his forgiveness. It's a rarely used mechanism, probably because the only people who get off on it have cold, neglectful, or bitchy mothers like mine used to be (which is probably why I feel so guilty for writing about those kind of characters now). Still, I wish more incest stories would involve the resolution of anger, resentment, disappointment, and/or jealousy as a central tension in the plotline. Those kind of stories are far more dynamic and interesting, even if they aren't as sexy to some people.
5 stars
Thank you for the advice and filling in the story building process for your stories. It made me aware of many of the problems I had with stories which I wrote, but never submitted. I now realize those stories were lacking in certain areas and that is why I left them where they still lay, in the recycle bin.
My characters also end up having different behavior or backgrounds that I had planned for them. What does one do with naughty characters that have their own story to tell?
Once again, thank you
Perfect title
Disclaimer: I have a love/hate relationship with incest stories, as they are dangerously close to my squick border. Because of that, the backstory is really important to me. I appreciated your analysis and the humorous, tongue-in-cheek tone - didn't take itself too seriously, in a deconstructionist way. (Wearer of boots and fishnets.)
Thank You For Writing This
I just started writing erotic literature this summer and incest is my category of choice. Just started another story and put out part 1. It's getting good reviews and favorites, etc; but one comment made me really pause. I have been trying to improve my writing as I feel I'm too repetitive with certain words (need to improve my synonym vocabulary). In any case, a commenter pointed out a few things they thought would help me in my writing and that (repetitive words) was something they pointed out. I appreciated the feedback as I'm trying to become a better writer. Thus why I searched and found your article. I do some of what you said, and need to incorporate other stuff. You have a well written piece. Thanks for sharing it with novice writers like myself.
THANK YOU!
I took many of your suggestions to heart when writing my first story for this category earlier this month, and judging by the comments I'm getting, I made a darn good decision doing so. Thank you for guiding a newbie through this uncharted territory. :)
Response to your How To.
Hey I love your stuff. But I would like to address something that you mentioned. You said that most incestuous encounters were molestation and abusive. While indeed it is true that such things do occur, I would like to point out that there are plenty of people in healthy, loving, consensual, incestuous relationships. You would be suprised at how common it is. Whether its experimentation and exploration, familial lust, or deep devoted love. You should check out this website and look at their interviews and articles. Tell me what you think. http://marriage-equality.blogspot.com
Just thinking
I have read some of your stories ( I started reading them after I finished SWB ) but have not seen the great sense of humor I see in this essay. I was just thinking you might want to try one in the Humor section. No, I'm not being a wise guy, I'm serious.
Anyway, thanks for presenting your thoughts on the subject in an entertaining manner.
Rare and difficult analysis
Complex explanation
Appreciable intellectual effort
Intelligent
Missing only some reference to the time sequence of events, some about the logical construction
I know about you only -----Ashley's Special Gift ----- VERY GOOD
The name of another similar story ?
Very good... but...
A good piece like this should not leave out Spelling & grammar. (Even if only spending a single sentence on it) Because errors like these throw me out of my suspension of disbelief.
Furthermore I was reflecting a bit over lines like these...
- "How's mommy look sucking your cock?"
- "Oh, look at you, licking your mother's pussy."
...and how I felt they have brought many otherwise good stories to mere mediocrity.
I know this is a personal opinion that may not be shared by all... perhaps I have a unique-esque thing for "reluctance" stories... Perhaps it's something more to it...
I feel that when characters have reached such a stage of mental acceptance over the taboo they are committing, that they can utter such a self-reflective statement, the conflict (and thus the story) is over. Which _may_ (again, personal opinion) be fine at the final scene of a story or just before all hell breaks loose and something happens that shatters the premises built up by the story in preparation of chapter #2.
In any event, a writer might do well to consider the option of riding the indecision and denial of the characters, right into the proverbial wall.
Anyhow... thank you for your "how to"... :)
Love Your Incest Stories
I am a huge fan of your work and am grateful for your tips on writing in the genre. I have never had a thought about my mother or any family member for that matter, but do find the subject fascinating and quite enjoyable to read, and you are one of the best. Please continue your fine writing and I will continue reading it. Some of the narrow minded have uninformed opinions about the subject, but consensual incest is not abuse and only adults can consent.
Great Essay
Really liked this LC
I've been hoping someone would write an essay just like this for a while. Really well done and fills a niche.
If I had to say anything about Incest, it's to mean it. Sincerity is the key, which you rightly point out. Half-assed or cynical striving for votes does not cut it.
Words of wisdom from one of lit's best incest writers!
Oh Jesus Christ... Why Did I Click On This Category?
You are more or less teaching other people how to be mediocre writers. Your style is extremely crass, creepy and juvenile. You just wrote a two page instruction telling other people how to write bad dialogue based off a poor premise.
Whenever I run into authors who have popularity based on quantity, and not quality it always bugs me. You more so than anyone because in a category like incest where ninety five percent of the authors are awful... you're like the best of the worst, and you actually believe that you're good. You believe it so much you're giving tips. For the love of God... Stop.
Liked
I concur! :)
sad endings to incest tagged romance
when i reached the end of the chain of stories called brook i think it was i wanted to punch the author for daring to tag it with romance and or love or what not, in my opinion they shouldn't be allowed to tag stuff like that if either one or both of the couple dies like in (!!!Spoilers!!!) tangled and brook here on this site. especially when you have used those along with romcom movies to distract yourself from something really painful mentally and everything is sunshine and nice weather then suddenly at the end bam boom chop off the head cinda thing
Coffee spew
the laptop nearly ended up like a pornstar's face when i read the lines about 'hop on, baby.'
good job, LC. a lot of what works in there.
i see good old anon had had a stab at you, above.
Lovely Ego Piece
I rather agree with anon, rather than the "real" writers, since I'm quite convinced you've only written one decent story in your life. Of course, that won't stop you.
Bravo! ☺️
What a brilliant little article to help someone through the pitfalls of writing, informative, generous and very helpful. Thank you.
I always appreciate feedback on the sites I publish on and do understand they have a worldwide reach.
I must admit I never read the anonymous comments except for a quick chuckle. I've always avoided feeding the trolls. I look forward to your new postings and must confess you were the first author I read here from date you posted the stories order.
It's a lovely way to see the growth of the author and his maturing skills.
very well written bro
awesome guidance
Not even close
Incest isn't even 3rd on Lit favorites. And this little treatise won't help any. Just plain ludicrous.
Graphic descriptions of the characters
One aspect I believe adds significantly to a story is a very graphic description of the character's physique, adding aspects through out each encounter. Such things as "Watching mom's torpedo tits swing under her t-shirt", "Noticing mom's puffy nipples", "Her meaty pussy lips hanging down as she bent over", "Seeing my son's cock curving upwards with it's huge bulbous head that flared out", etc. Being able to visualize the characters is a great turn on, especially in those stories with substance leading up to "crossing the line". When writing, I usually pic a porn photo from the internet and attach it to each character so I can refer back to it when adding more titillating descriptors as the story unfolds.
Very interesting pointers,
But I find the 'rules,' for lack of a better word, irksome... Maybe I don't follow the site enough to see all the patterns and politics, but it seems some of the most widely read stories are father practically brainwashing daughter, like silkstockinglover's minister father story for instance. I don't know, as a writer I want to write what I want. If people don't like it they just shouldn't read it. (Constructive criticism is another thing entirely and very welcome.) Not that I've even done an incest story, but I've seen some of the same attitude in loving wives. They're so picky sometimes! If it's not the kind of story you want, move on. Don't throw a fit because a writer doesn't conform to the exact situation you prefer. But that's just me.
Good ideas
Most of my cowritten works add pregnancy at some point as the ultimate culmination of iciest love affairs.
Great Ideas
Thanks for your insights into how you write! A lot of great ideas to use myself to make more than just a stroke story with "mom" and "sis" added in.
Experience
Experience, even if its "pseudo", is a good place to start at least for me. Adds that element of realism that makes writing as well as reading such stories so much fun. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for that
Writing my very first incest story and that was so informative and helpful. Thankyou for taking the time to share your thoughts and experience.
Good Guide
Thank you for your ideas on writing. I'll take it all on board, trying to get started so now your guide will give me the enthusiasm.
Now I also like the Grandmother/Grandson stories but you never write about them, any reason why. Could you give any guidance please. From experience I can say how gratifying it is.
REgards
Thank you!
Thank you for the excellent article and I read most of your stories and loved them.
One thing I don't agree with you is that all of the incest stories are fake, well not all...and you know what I mean ;)
Your stories are very well written and deserve to become books, however for sites like this they seem to be too long :(
Talking for myself, I prefer to read short and concise stories (that are well written like yours') that get to the point quickly and end quickly for a specific topic, so I can move to another story with a different tag line. If it drags too long then, for me, it defeats the purpose of being a sex story and I feel like I am missing out on reading other stories.
One more piece of advice...
If your goal is increased views, votes and comments, one piece of advice I don't see in your essay is "Write more stories". Once your first story has scrolled off of the pages for "New Stories" or "New in Incest" (both of which happen pretty quickly, faster than some other genres, for sure), you either need to have made one of the Top Lists or appear in a Random list for people to see your story exists, unless they're searching for your keywords. But if you write a NEW story that readers like, that will attract some readers to your profile to see "What else has he written?" Your view/vote/comments counts for all of your stories will go up during this period, so try to have something new up every week or two, whether standalone or another chapter in a series (which can bring almost as many new views to Ch. 01 as to the new chapter, although the new chapter might score fewer views than a standalone).
fine article
very fine article by the author ... and important to note it's not everybody's kink but that everyone has kinks ... a mother is naturally the first female that males (sons) are attracted to so the incest stories are playing off of that first 'love' ... an insightful article especially for authors
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