Great tale. Fucking stupid conniving cheating cunt bitch. Yeah I mean the ex. How stupid can you be? Her terms for him to see his daughter were incredible..Yeah, incredibly stupid. Very happy that he is happy now.
Umm, he had no rights where his daughter was concerned. Nothing to fight for. His ex was dangling the possibility of some kind of visit, without any legal right to access, somewhere down the line, if she wanted, if she believed he would accept her back, but never giving up control so that she could use it to keep him in line and control him through his daughter.
That is nothing but the illusion of hope. So, no he didn't "fight" for his daughter, if by fight you mean accepting his ex's proposal. Her proposal didn't offer any chance to win back his daughter. Better to wait until the daughter was an adult and she found out the truth. Sucks but sometimes you don't have an option to protect those you love from the bad guys. Sometimes you just have to endure.
You quoted words from a great song but you gave the credit to the wrong person. Tony Arata wrote the words to "the dance". Garth Brooks had the jingle and deep pockets to buy the song lyrics and I don't know who wrote the tune. Probably Tony Arata. Samsiewamsie
poorly executed. Why would she want to get back with her ex if she had place to go to in Philly.
And if she did want to get back with him, its totally unrealistic to believe that she would expect to keep the visitation order in effect.
She says she CAN start on repairing his relationship with his daughter.
If she is sincere about regretting what she did she should already be doing that anyway!
"I can't expose Susie to that kind of relationship. Jake, you'd have to allow me to try and make up for some of the hell I've put you through."
First, SHE’S the one who created “that kind of relationship,”, second, HE doesn’t “have” to allow anything! If she wants something from him, HE’S the one to say what HAS to be done.
She says she's desperate and can't lose Susie. I thought she had family in Philly with a job and a place to stay, so why should she be desperate?
"The only thing she wanted but didn't get was I still had parental rights to our daughter"
Doesn't that mean he has visitation rights ?
If he counts on the daughter to become adult and her being under the influence of her mother for at least a decade to accept the truth then IMO that doesn't sound very realistic,restrainingorders can be revoked by courtorder.
Who are the little kids-Josie's? He wants to take on raising two kids not his own?
He lost all parental rights, or just visitation? That can be amended-but if she is moving to Philly, then ...but lots of family court now control the other parties ability to move kids out of state.
What was the ex wife proposing-living together? I mean she didint have a job that could pay the rent so I guess that was what she was hinting at. But to not give him immediate full parental rights at that point seems dumb, they would be living together.
A sad tale, about the poisoning of the father-daughter relationship. A 3.
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Anonymous04/10/15
Great story!
And one that hit close to home. My own wife cheated for over a year before I found out and when I did, she expected me to forgive and forget or she'd take the kids away. With me low in corporate management, she figured I'd have to suck it up, forgive her or she'd take the kids and make me miserable. She couldn't have been more wrong.
While she was gone with the kids to her folks one afternoon after I'd give my notice and waited for my final paycheck, I packed my bags and left. The whore had already turned our kids against me and I was seen as the heartless monster that couldn't forgive their mother. Forgive her for accidently fucking an old boyfriend three times each week for 14 months? Hell, the kids didn't look like me anyway and there is little worse than having your own child shrink back and cower from you.
That was 16 years ago. I just left, not leaving a forwarding address. Only last September did our oldest track me down in hopes of repairing the damage. The whore, their mother, had only just died from Ovarian cancer and they were homeless. It turns out, she did have a heart and admitted what she'd done, to us and obviously to them. It is a process but we're repairing our relationship and they've all moved in with me.
Felt he should have done more about his daughter. Like sued his ex for custody after all she had done. But, still enjoyable read.
Now please go finish "I dreamed"!!! :)
Thanks!
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Anonymous04/10/15
So another Father gets screwed
Probably yelling into a hurricane but why didn't the Family Court, when they figured out what his ex-wife had done to his relationship with his daughter, do more than just allow him visitation? In many cases he could have petitioned the Court and had his ex restrained from leaving the State or the area. But that's not your story. And it was unclear whose kids Izzy and Gabe were since they called him "Uncle". And you've got Uncle Maury and Aunt Marie in the mix too. The confusion at the end about the relationships ruined the story for me.
This story is so real, I can relate to the writer My ex divorced me after 21 years to be with her lover then she tried the similar thing to me with our kids right after our divorce.
... but sadly the comments are expected and typical. "Why won't he fight for the daughter?"
Apparently most people don't understand the concept of a lost fight. There was no way to win that battle... ever. Unfortunately that's the reality of a court system so deformed by 60+ years of feminism bias that men are treated not as equals, but the actual enemy in divorces. An enemy of the human race doesn't get to fight for his children.
I didn't have to fight for my son, he figured it out and ask to move in with me at 16. The ex-wife is still alone and bitter. Little Lance Spearman cant understand because he would have take her back and turned into "Captain Save A Hoe". She wanted to comeback Lancie, because life got hard all alone.
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Anonymous04/10/15
5*****
From Duna.
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Anonymous04/10/15
That was a great short story
Loved the way you ended it. What more can I say 5. From me.
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Anonymous04/10/15
5 star
I like it that he's not an idiot who'd put himself through hell just because his ex-wife, who betrayed him in almost every way possible, wants to bring back the family.
And it's really hard to blame the kid, the daughter in this case, for how she acts when she took all her cues from her mother. Shame really, but I'd have put the child to death, it's bad blood, simple as that.
As others have noted, all too real. Sad for the daughter. Five star story for sure.
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Anonymous04/10/15
Wow!
What a good Story. Real touching, and rather true to life in many ways. I was glad to see that he was healing and moving on, even though he isn't completely healed.
I think he should have fought harder for his daughter and clearly the ex didn't know about his interest in the business otherwise she would have simply used the courts to drain him dry.
Still 4.5*.
Unfortunately, as the 'recovered memory' fiasco of the 1980's proved, people rarely excise false memories later in life. Fewer than 5% of children who experience parental alienation including false claims against a parent ever reconnect with that parent. Worse, they take on those false memories as a part of who they are. The concept that we outgrow those lies or uncover them as we age is almost always incorrect.
Research in 'recovered memory' is cripplingly one-sided, showing that it is a sham. In fact, it is more accurate to call it 'false memory creation therapy.' And yet hundreds of people remain separated from parents they incorrectly became convinced hurt or molested them. Worse, there are people in jail today because of those 30 year old cases.
This mother clearly lied to her daughter, and created a false impression of her father that she will most likely carry with her forever. And all he has to fill that hole is someone else's kids.
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Anonymous04/11/15
"He molested our daughter" is a standard divorce gambit
Unfortunately the courts don't require the wife to make the accusation under oath and prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, so many men get undeserved reputations as child molesters. My ex tried that with me, but my children were old enough that the court-appointed social worker, after interviewing both of them, told the judge "It didn't happen". The judge actually ordered the divorce complaint to be amended to remove the allegation (necessary in case the filing got "accidentall leaked" as happened with Jack and Jeri Ryan).
But it takes an even better author to get you to feel sorry for her. Yeah, she ripped his life apart but at the end I did feel sympathy for the mess she made of her life and her daughter's. Good job and five *****.
something in this i loved. his currant girlfriend hated his ex. this is true 99.999 % of the time. yet author after author on here wants to have it the other way around. his currant girl will demand that he knuckle under and forgive his lying cheating ex. bullshit.your girl always hates your ex. god knows i cant fucking stand my girlfriends ex husband. it is to bad that his ex used his daughter against him and now he doesnt have a relationship with her. he should reach out to his ex's family, a long shot i know but he shouldnt just right his daughter off.
dyonysos after he got out of jail yes he still had rights. but after his ex pulled her stunt with child services they stripped him of his rights and his ex got a restraining order against him. he was no longer allowed to see her.
The biggest problem is the false memories the ex gave his daughter.
What good is visitation when the child screams runs and hides when he shows up?
She is terrified of him, and false though the memories are no one has done anything to repair that, which would be far more difficult than making the problem.
Sometimes you can only write it off as a loss.
No option but to consider the child as dead to you.
mike9698 has it right, I have never seen the current woman be supportive of the ex.
If for no other reason than the emotional damage from the past causes her problems in the present.(once burned, twice shy)
But usually they also do not want a reconciliation because they do not want to lose him to her.
English
YES!
Great little feel good story.
I have enjoyed all of your Brownwood series and am looking forward to the next installment.
Yes Again
I echo zed0's statement!
excellent little tale thanks 5
Excellent
Great tale. Fucking stupid conniving cheating cunt bitch. Yeah I mean the ex. How stupid can you be? Her terms for him to see his daughter were incredible..Yeah, incredibly stupid. Very happy that he is happy now.
Five Stars
Great slice of life
Well told tale. Realistic.
One Word
Outstanding!
Daughter
If i get this right he won't fight for his own daughter ? Won't ask for visitation ? just to piss off his ex ? pretty pathetic father IMO
5 & FAV!
Thanks for sharing. More please
Fight for his daughter
Umm, he had no rights where his daughter was concerned. Nothing to fight for. His ex was dangling the possibility of some kind of visit, without any legal right to access, somewhere down the line, if she wanted, if she believed he would accept her back, but never giving up control so that she could use it to keep him in line and control him through his daughter.
That is nothing but the illusion of hope. So, no he didn't "fight" for his daughter, if by fight you mean accepting his ex's proposal. Her proposal didn't offer any chance to win back his daughter. Better to wait until the daughter was an adult and she found out the truth. Sucks but sometimes you don't have an option to protect those you love from the bad guys. Sometimes you just have to endure.
Francis_Toliver
*****
Just full of good parts!! The two little new were a great touch. 😎
Excellent!
Thanks for sharing a great read.
good quote, wrong credit
You quoted words from a great song but you gave the credit to the wrong person. Tony Arata wrote the words to "the dance". Garth Brooks had the jingle and deep pockets to buy the song lyrics and I don't know who wrote the tune. Probably Tony Arata. Samsiewamsie
Nice theme
poorly executed. Why would she want to get back with her ex if she had place to go to in Philly.
And if she did want to get back with him, its totally unrealistic to believe that she would expect to keep the visitation order in effect.
Thoughts
She says she CAN start on repairing his relationship with his daughter.
If she is sincere about regretting what she did she should already be doing that anyway!
"I can't expose Susie to that kind of relationship. Jake, you'd have to allow me to try and make up for some of the hell I've put you through."
First, SHE’S the one who created “that kind of relationship,”, second, HE doesn’t “have” to allow anything! If she wants something from him, HE’S the one to say what HAS to be done.
She says she's desperate and can't lose Susie. I thought she had family in Philly with a job and a place to stay, so why should she be desperate?
@Francis _Toliver
"The only thing she wanted but didn't get was I still had parental rights to our daughter"
Doesn't that mean he has visitation rights ?
If he counts on the daughter to become adult and her being under the influence of her mother for at least a decade to accept the truth then IMO that doesn't sound very realistic,restrainingorders can be revoked by courtorder.
Confusing
Who are the little kids-Josie's? He wants to take on raising two kids not his own?
He lost all parental rights, or just visitation? That can be amended-but if she is moving to Philly, then ...but lots of family court now control the other parties ability to move kids out of state.
What was the ex wife proposing-living together? I mean she didint have a job that could pay the rent so I guess that was what she was hinting at. But to not give him immediate full parental rights at that point seems dumb, they would be living together.
A sad tale, about the poisoning of the father-daughter relationship. A 3.
Great story!
And one that hit close to home. My own wife cheated for over a year before I found out and when I did, she expected me to forgive and forget or she'd take the kids away. With me low in corporate management, she figured I'd have to suck it up, forgive her or she'd take the kids and make me miserable. She couldn't have been more wrong.
While she was gone with the kids to her folks one afternoon after I'd give my notice and waited for my final paycheck, I packed my bags and left. The whore had already turned our kids against me and I was seen as the heartless monster that couldn't forgive their mother. Forgive her for accidently fucking an old boyfriend three times each week for 14 months? Hell, the kids didn't look like me anyway and there is little worse than having your own child shrink back and cower from you.
That was 16 years ago. I just left, not leaving a forwarding address. Only last September did our oldest track me down in hopes of repairing the damage. The whore, their mother, had only just died from Ovarian cancer and they were homeless. It turns out, she did have a heart and admitted what she'd done, to us and obviously to them. It is a process but we're repairing our relationship and they've all moved in with me.
Felt he should have done more about his daughter. Like sued his ex for custody after all she had done. But, still enjoyable read.
Now please go finish "I dreamed"!!! :)
Thanks!
So another Father gets screwed
Probably yelling into a hurricane but why didn't the Family Court, when they figured out what his ex-wife had done to his relationship with his daughter, do more than just allow him visitation? In many cases he could have petitioned the Court and had his ex restrained from leaving the State or the area. But that's not your story. And it was unclear whose kids Izzy and Gabe were since they called him "Uncle". And you've got Uncle Maury and Aunt Marie in the mix too. The confusion at the end about the relationships ruined the story for me.
not
worth reading miserable stuff
Realistic
This story is so real, I can relate to the writer My ex divorced me after 21 years to be with her lover then she tried the similar thing to me with our kids right after our divorce.
That's a good story...
That's a good story and how he behave the right way!!! 3*
Deqar annony. Your comments are not worth reading This story is great
I gave it a 5
A Great Character Expose...
... but sadly the comments are expected and typical. "Why won't he fight for the daughter?"
Apparently most people don't understand the concept of a lost fight. There was no way to win that battle... ever. Unfortunately that's the reality of a court system so deformed by 60+ years of feminism bias that men are treated not as equals, but the actual enemy in divorces. An enemy of the human race doesn't get to fight for his children.
Sounds like my life
I didn't have to fight for my son, he figured it out and ask to move in with me at 16. The ex-wife is still alone and bitter. Little Lance Spearman cant understand because he would have take her back and turned into "Captain Save A Hoe". She wanted to comeback Lancie, because life got hard all alone.
5*****
From Duna.
That was a great short story
Loved the way you ended it. What more can I say 5. From me.
5 star
I like it that he's not an idiot who'd put himself through hell just because his ex-wife, who betrayed him in almost every way possible, wants to bring back the family.
And it's really hard to blame the kid, the daughter in this case, for how she acts when she took all her cues from her mother. Shame really, but I'd have put the child to death, it's bad blood, simple as that.
Wow, what great writing....
In "loving wives", no less! Didn't expect the ending, or the short length as I was half way through. A great read. Thanks
Good Flash Story
As others have noted, all too real. Sad for the daughter. Five star story for sure.
Wow!
What a good Story. Real touching, and rather true to life in many ways. I was glad to see that he was healing and moving on, even though he isn't completely healed.
WL73
Two things
I think he should have fought harder for his daughter and clearly the ex didn't know about his interest in the business otherwise she would have simply used the courts to drain him dry.
Still 4.5*.
Nice!
Really well done, a ***** effort for sure! Thanks!
BREAKING UP IS LIKE PULLING THE BAND-AID OFF
going back is the same but with super glue. TK U MLJ LV NV
In one word...
Excellent!!!
Good
Very good. 5 Stars.
*****
Man! You had me concerned there for a bit. Thank you for a good TX tale. Spent 4 years in DFW before retiring. Good writing. Mucho gracias. Cheers!
Sad, but good
Unfortunately, as the 'recovered memory' fiasco of the 1980's proved, people rarely excise false memories later in life. Fewer than 5% of children who experience parental alienation including false claims against a parent ever reconnect with that parent. Worse, they take on those false memories as a part of who they are. The concept that we outgrow those lies or uncover them as we age is almost always incorrect.
Research in 'recovered memory' is cripplingly one-sided, showing that it is a sham. In fact, it is more accurate to call it 'false memory creation therapy.' And yet hundreds of people remain separated from parents they incorrectly became convinced hurt or molested them. Worse, there are people in jail today because of those 30 year old cases.
This mother clearly lied to her daughter, and created a false impression of her father that she will most likely carry with her forever. And all he has to fill that hole is someone else's kids.
"He molested our daughter" is a standard divorce gambit
Unfortunately the courts don't require the wife to make the accusation under oath and prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, so many men get undeserved reputations as child molesters. My ex tried that with me, but my children were old enough that the court-appointed social worker, after interviewing both of them, told the judge "It didn't happen". The judge actually ordered the divorce complaint to be amended to remove the allegation (necessary in case the filing got "accidentall leaked" as happened with Jack and Jeri Ryan).
5*
A good author can get you to be mad at the bitch.
But it takes an even better author to get you to feel sorry for her. Yeah, she ripped his life apart but at the end I did feel sympathy for the mess she made of her life and her daughter's. Good job and five *****.
great story
something in this i loved. his currant girlfriend hated his ex. this is true 99.999 % of the time. yet author after author on here wants to have it the other way around. his currant girl will demand that he knuckle under and forgive his lying cheating ex. bullshit.your girl always hates your ex. god knows i cant fucking stand my girlfriends ex husband. it is to bad that his ex used his daughter against him and now he doesnt have a relationship with her. he should reach out to his ex's family, a long shot i know but he shouldnt just right his daughter off.
just got done with reading the comments
dyonysos after he got out of jail yes he still had rights. but after his ex pulled her stunt with child services they stripped him of his rights and his ex got a restraining order against him. he was no longer allowed to see her.
not even the rights
The biggest problem is the false memories the ex gave his daughter.
What good is visitation when the child screams runs and hides when he shows up?
She is terrified of him, and false though the memories are no one has done anything to repair that, which would be far more difficult than making the problem.
Sometimes you can only write it off as a loss.
No option but to consider the child as dead to you.
must agree
mike9698 has it right, I have never seen the current woman be supportive of the ex.
If for no other reason than the emotional damage from the past causes her problems in the present.(once burned, twice shy)
But usually they also do not want a reconciliation because they do not want to lose him to her.
Well written story with good emotional content but...
...it is just not erotic in any shape or form. Why is it here? 2* Ken
Well written
Nothing more to say. Only story I read today.
Unique
A very creative short story with a dark theme. The line he said about pimping their daughter was poignant.
Thank you,
M1*****
Neat & succinct
Neatly told.
Nice one!
HP
5
You have a way with words, well, stories too.
nice and succinct
well written, thanks
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