A Simple Case of Infidelity Pt. 03

THIS IS A TWO-CAMP STORY

and sides will be taken and harm will come, TK U MLJ LV NV

Divorce or not

like is sad after part two,the drugs she uses a more than a little responsable for her acting,xanax and tranxene are surpressing all of her normal behavior,she doesn't feel remorse or any other kind of feeling,she acts like a zombi,she justifies everything because under drugs she feels like doing the right thing

She shouldn't be there

She needs professional help, serious professional help. She seems to go to thee drugs every time something goes wrong and upsets her and her emotions seem a little too unstable. Not only that why is EVERYONE on her side? and despite what Whalen says they are on her side. They think that just a little time will fix everything and he should just take her back. I understand the daughter being hopeful to have the family back together, but these older people should know that sometimes there's a line you cross that can't back track from.
This seems like a RAAC kind of story where everyone is out to manipulate the husband into getting back together with her. As I said SHE NEEDS PROFESSIONAL HELP AND TO MOVE ON!! See your family as much as you want to but that bridge with your husband has been burned down. Hubby just file divorce and start dating, wifey accept the divorce, fix yourself and start dating. As for everyone else JUST BUTT OUT!!!

Love her as much as they did I don't believe they'd throw their own son out over her. So that is an unbelievable part of the story.

Beyond names this really doesn't have much to do with the original. The characters are different and their inter-relationships don't match up. Not really a fan of this series, especially the second and third chapters.

Damn

She is obviously not ready to try to get her husband back. First of all, rehab to stop her drug addiction. Second, Francis wants no part of her. Smart man. Wherever you take this tale, be smart about it.

By the way, she doesn't deserve him. The whore needs to be alone.
Just saying...

Much too wordy

A lot of information nobody needs overshadows the real facts. Skip this and I might read further parts.

Two choices only

To piss off the BTB guys or not!

the woman needs to grow up and mature, she seems a mental invalid with drug addiction

six months she is gone no word, and seems to think her husband who has filed legal papers on her still has a responsibility to keep her as a wife even after all she has done. Wow, someone said she needs professional help, no she needs to be committed.

i still hope that they can put things back together. It'll take alot of work on both sides but that forgiveness thing is something we all had better learn how to do in this life because we will all need to be forgiven in the next life.

This has dragged on far too long, sentences are repetitive. It's just a boring story of a 40 something woman who needs to grow the fuck up!

Sick Woman

She is a clearly a mentally ill, drug dependent woman. Like so many other stories, I fear that you are going to use a "chemical imbalance" or the emotional stress of menopause/empty nest syndrome defense for her cheating. I am not an excuse guy. I am a responsibility for your actions guy. I do not feel a need to see Leslie "burned" any more than she has scorched her own life. I do feel a need for her to own up to what she has done, and is still doing with the drugs. I feel a need for Francis to access the situation and to decide not only if he wants to stay married to a disloyal, cheating slut but also if this isn't a good time to get away from the horrible wreck or a human being that his wife has become. There is the real drama, does he dump her when she is a basket case even if she caused her own condition? Does he take her back and try to heal her for the sake of all those that love her, including him on some level? Does he sacrifice the rest of his life, and to some degree his sense of being a man to become his wife's psychiatric nursemaid? Is it the right thing to do for the kids? Will it free them up so they can move on away from the family carnage? If he doesn't will they be pulled in to take care of their mother or worse suffer the guilt of shunning her and watching her morph into something worse? This one is not about sex, not really about love, it is about duty based on love. Francis could easily go out and find a good woman to restart his life with. We all only have one life (as far as we know) How will Francis spend the rest of his? Do his parents really want to saddle him with this for the rest of his life? (I wouldn't do that to my son)

Disappointed!!!

This is a total disappointment as compared to the first two. It's too drawn out and really should have not gone past this chapter.

Good down home people

I like the way things are going. I'm glad the future of Leslie and Francis is still up in the air. People doing good things is the way we are meant to live. I'm glad this story is going. Helping one another and not being judgmental is the essence of being human.

Excellent continuation of the established story line, well written.

Thoroughly covered in the back & forth of reality, every stone seems turned and the insertion/addition of the teenage daughter/grand daughter into the mix really powers home the perspective of all the parties involved. It'll be interesting to see how her Dad, Mom and the grand parents each handle her being around the environment.
BRAVO!! Continue please!!

A good read!

Your writing is, as usual, of good standard.

You see all you've written after the story and all you're going to write hereafter is needed to make the story believable, giving you the benefit of doubt that you can. Don't you think it should have been thought of before writing the story.

It looks like an imposition by an English teacher at school (lol).

Leslie is interesting. Never would've thought she'd be a pill popper and Francis would approve of it.

irony??

"Francis was a strong willed, upright, ethical man"

The story didn't appear to be written this way. Francis comes across as a stubborn, emotionally blocked and vindictive man.

Either (i) the story is implicitly written from Francis' point of view, and is therefore an exercise in self-justification,

or (ii) the story continues and will be about his redemption in 'growing up'.

Dear Carvohi

Have you no heart? You've created a whole cast of interesting people, interesting, real and complete enough for us to care about. You say you know where the story will end up. Please hurry and let us know too. We care! At least this reader cares. You have made us care by way of fine writing, creating three dimensional characters, and crafting a tale that wants a resolution. You are more than just a wonderful writer, you are a fine observer of character and have presented us with
a situation that seems real. Please, please (though I feel guilty bothering a writer with your talent), please continue with this tale soon.....

Not sure what to make of this story...

... First, Leslie is the confident, even smug, cheater who, when confronted with her infidelity, demanded proof from her cuckolded husband and now we, as readers, are supposed to believe she is this poor, vulnerable little wife who is overcome by all the injustices from her husband. It's like the story, so far, is about two different women. I sincerely think that this is what happens when you make up a multiple part story as you go along, especially when the parts are written, or at least submitted, so far apart.

For a liar and cheat as she tried to cover up her affair

You now make her out As a weak caracter in this marriage. Who after breaking down comes back to town wanting her man back. And his parents helping her. After 6 months of running and no contact ,what did she expect. A happily reunion. You have made this story implausible .

My 2 Cents

This story is rambling to a non conclusion just like Revelations. You couldn't finish that one you may never finish this one. You snuck drugs into that one too. Everyone sympathetic to the slut Finish it already

Editing

Please get an editor. This story shifts from first, second through third person at random. It adds to the confusion.

As soon as carvohi can convince Francis that he was and is entirely at fault

it can have one of his storybook RAAC endings. Won't that be swell.

interesting

story is getting interesting in the fact that his parents are set on getting them back together actually seems everyone is set on that . but seems like he dosn't want too. he is right in doing things like he has already after all she did cheat and contact him in all the time that she was gone.

Carvohi

you fell into a trap that a lot of good storytellers do. You made a case too strong for reconciliation. And now you want us to feel sympathy for the slut. Sorry not going to happen. If these two reconcile it will be forced. At this time I would like to point out that Francis should stop talking to his family altogether. It appears they believe that anything you do can be forgiven, that is just plain bullshit. Most Christians ignore half their religion, you know the part written in the Bible not the New Testament. It is inconvenient to have to walk the road of your religion if you can't be forgiven for everything you do. God has infinite mercy but he also has infinite vengeance. Francis's family seem to have no moral character, they seem to believe pump out children trumps anything you do in life. Try that in front a judge on a murder charge and see how far you get.

good

I like it.

Some points.

they are catholic? means no divorce anyway even if granted by the state, they remain married.

Something happened to her to cause this?

She seems remorseful

I actually want them to get together again.
Forgiveness, love? I dont know but you've made me root for her and him now.

And her parents? burn them.

22 years is a long time, Its not as easy to throw someone to the side of the road as some people may think, Mostly Anonymous chickenshit comments. Whatever you decide your stories are always entertaining
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Tragedy or Redemption?

I think that Leslie is one of the most complex and interesting characters Carvohi has ever created. On one level she is a loving person who has tried to put aside her indulgent upbringing by two monstrous parents and transform herself into a caring teacher and loving wife. Unfortunately that part of her nature is at war with a concealed drug addiction foisted on her people who supposedly cared for her. It particularly disturbing to realize that the man who was her first "love" and is largely responsible for the breakup of her marriage has regularly fed her rape drugs. At this point in the story she is balanced precariously on a knife's edge between the redemption she craves and the final tragedy her drug induced demons are pushing her toward. Her future is made more problematic by the fact that she has never come to terms with her addiction. and if she does not she is doomed Finally,at the risk of being dismissed as an adultery forgiving wimp I must say that Francis is not blameless in this tale. How can a man live with the love of his life for twenty years and never notice that she suffers from life destroying drug dependency?

Been down / seen someone on this road before...

Spoiled, only child, addicted to prescription pills at a young age by her "loving" mother; now incapable of dealing with real life situations. Can see where this is leading. Real life though addicted personality & the cheating; she would jump from one disastrous affair/marriage to another eventually dieing alone; never realizing that life is not all about herself. Leslie character is so self-indulged & concerned about her own well being; she didn't foresee how her actions would affect those around her? And, really how many drugs does she have in her system at any given moment, anyway? Turning her into a chemically dependant person; for people to pity? And, she can turn around and blame her parents for ALL of it; how nice, we've hit just about all of the psychologist clichés...
Otherwise, great writing so far, some typos; will continue to follow to see where story winds up. Just wish there wasn't such a long break between installments; having to go back & refresh with the story can be time consuming and at times problematic.

Show down time

Let's finish her off... Then finish revelations also.

She has to get help for her addiction and a second chance! They both deserve it

Oh and her parents need to pay!!!

The journey through purgatory has begun.

carvohi,
Great story and writing. Leslie has made her bed and now she gets to sleep in it.
In real life some people make it all the way back, and some don't. Is she self aware enough to understand the addictions ? Will she accept help when and if she gets it.
Please keep writing, don't care about how you chose to end it. After all, that's your perogrative as a writer.
Thanks again.

She is going to the rock bottom...

She is going to the rock bottom...Only then she will get strengh to come up...For now she is a complete drug addict...3*

Tragic Figure

From the the flash back, stream of conscious techinque used by Carvohi it is a little hard to tell whether whether Leslie was on the benzos and other meds during her 22 years of marriage or whether that stopped during her marriage and restarted after she left and went back to the sorry SOB's who are biological parents. No matter how it turns out the bio parents need to be drawn and quartered.

Obviously Leslie has a real mental illness. Depression and possibly an anxiety disorder in addition to terrible role modeling by her parents. In real life this could go either way. Francis could turn out to be a real man and step up to the plate and live up to his wedding vows and try to take care of his wife. It takes a real man to set aside his ego and live up to his responsibilities. Or, he could be so hurt by the Leslie's behavior that he cannot forgive Lelsie her bad behavior and feels like he has to divorce her and leave her to deal with her problems alone or with the help of others. A third alternative, he divorces Leslie, cannot live with her but still tries to help her. Only Carvohi knows where this is going. I hope he finishes soon enough so that I don't have to reread the prior stories like I did this time.

anon.1

Can see where this might be going

Whalen says 22 years the perfect wife and mother and then all of a sudden a whore. It doesn't add up.

Leslie has spent the past 22 years managing her life with the help of her secret stash of scrounged "mother's little helpers," unknown to anyone but her. Then she gets drugged and date raped by Weatherby, probably with the connivance of her parents who have always wanted to drive a wedge between her and her husband and children, and as a result she steps up her drug consumption and everything that happens after that is her being led around by the nose by Weatherby and her parents. Then Francis finds out, the shit hits the fan, she's taking more and more drugs and her crashing is becoming too obvious not to be noticed by those around her.

Now Francis' parents are going to step in and try to undo the damage by convincing their son to take another look at her behavior. Eventually the plot will out, and Leslie's parents will be revealed as the evil masterminds behind their daughter's brainwashing into adultery.

wow how erotic

we have to endure what a dumb, insane woman had done to herself and the rest of her Family. a woman who never in her whole life had a clear view about life in General and a clear view of her own life. she does not know the smallest Thing . a fucked up Little princess who has never made a contract like cellphone , car insurance , credit Card......... does she know how to tie her own shoes ???? she is a drug-addicted useless peace of shit and everybody still helps her. Can't get you really if you think anything of this should be erotic. and I have also no clue why her ex-husband/husband should take her back. she has nothing to offer ! why should he commit to her again ? so he can Nurse her till she dies ? who would take someone like this and give her a Job ? she belongs into a mental home, there is almost no way back, at least the way you describe her in ch. 03.

really bad ch. 3 makes absolutely no sense, not even for a reconciliation Story. if she would be a horse you would have to shoot her.

you make out of a simple case, the most complicated possible. I really just wait that her husband is the guilty one, that he forced her to cheat by being a nice guy for her , her Family , grandparents , friends....and that he has to apologise for being a nice guy.

oh sorry I forgot, I never will know, this is the end for me. just a waste of time to read further. good writing alone makes no Story if the plot stinks.

Like the written and story and couldn't stop read it.

What?

Is her becoming a mentally deficient addict after being a slut supposed to endear her to us?

Is his family being a bunch of idiots supposed to be believable? I could get that they might not want to throw her in the garbage. But they don't feel any loyalty to their son? The daughter feels no loyalty to her father? Beyond that, they are planning to get the two back together? Even if he decided to forgive her for being a slut, he would want to get back together with a self centered, brain dead drug addict? Leslie and the family are unpalatable characters. The plot to reunite them is stupid. The story can only go downhill from here and it's already pretty bad.

What a tangled web...

but I think I see a path out...

What I haven't seen anyone talk about is this: her origins.
Who got her hooked on the drugs to begin with? HER MOM!
What was her mom's situation like to get her daughter hooked on mind-altering prescription pharmaceuticals? Then, how controlling was her DAD? There are few people in our lives who can do the sort of psychological damage to us that our parents can do.

So, my way out: a confrontation between her husband, and her parents emerges where the truth about how they worked against his & her marriage the whole time, and her mother colluded, in effect, by hooking her on drugs that altered her views and perceptions...DELIBERATELY to break them apart.

This would clear the way for a (possible) reconciliation, but then...there are SO MANY ways this could go bad...the confrontation never emerges...the drugs story never emerges...he finds someone new...someone dies...kids go crazy and tie everything in knots...legal problems arise...ah, the fun that can be had with this story now that the stage is so well set.

Kudos, Carvohi!

Lookit

Look at "Just Too Happily Married " to find out where this story is heading. Francis' family = The Judge. Francis' daughter will go over to her mother's side. Francis will see how he has been betrayed, and will leave his job, his daughter, and his parents to find happiness elsewhere. However, his wife, after she sinks lower and goes through rehab, will find him. Francis will take her back, et ad nauseum.

I liked it

And I liked it better at the end than I thought I would.

A Tedious Read

A famous author once advised other authors, "never write anything your readers will skip over." This story certainly doesn't follow that advice. What will happen next? The Dentist from one of Carvohi's other stories, will seduce Leslie and Victoria, then abuse them, and then the Dentist will turn around and successfully sue Francis, due to being caused stress by his wife and daughter.

can see another of carvohi, strong man to will cuckold stories

in the end it will be nothing more than a super RAAC story

DOES VICTORIA AND HER GRANDPARENTS VALUE HIM

......no one seems to stop and think of his health....do they know she used protection... protection is never 100%.....can real loving parents risk burying their chid for the sake of a daughter they never had...heck they might end-up losing both....love is not just about having some one in your lives but it is also how the impact it ....druggie or not she knew what she was doing was wrong....even went as far as trying to justify it.....and now seems to want to let his family justify it for.....I don't have the answer,,,,just questions it's your story I am here for the ride...but Victoria..,,too selfish....mom and dad are they really that to him too?

2 stars

Can already tell he'll take her back by 1. Everyone will work on him to get him to forgive her. 2. She'll OD and he'll come back to her. Wimp ass pussy endings.

all aboard the racc train

Anyone who thinks this story wont go full RAAC with Francis taking the the junkie slut back has obviously never read anything from Carvohi before. Im just surprised he allowed the husband to have a tiny amount of self respect by filling papers and cutting off her funds after she only up and ran off to fuck some other dude for 6 months.

Having everyone shocked by this turn of events is just piss poor storytelling and completely unbelievable as is her in-laws picking her side knowing what she did to their son. The slut's shock at her husbands actions is just pathetic characterization.

Simple?

Will some one please what is simple about this?

Excellent writing

You have structured some very interesting characters and produce a very complex situation. Unfortunately it is not obvious that anything good can come out of all this.

A couple, three things that need pointing out.

It's a small town, and anyone who thinks the town won't turn on Francis like a school of hungry piranha if they decide he has started being excessively cruel and vindictive toward Leslie has never lived in a small town.

Secondly, I suspect the Leslie was the "victim" of the sort of therapist who addresses chronic anxiety and depression by putting the patient on medication(s) so that the patient feels better, but who never actually tries to do the serious pick-and-shovel work of dealing with root causes of the anxiety and depression. In other words, she's popping pills because they are the only tools she has to deal with her issues, and no, it's not good for her, nor is it sustainable in the long term. Meds of that sort are supposed to be used to get a patient incapable of addressing her underlying issues into a state where work on those issues can begin. As the issues are addressed, the patient is supposed to come off the meds. Obviously in Leslie's case, none of that has happened.

Third, I can see this situation resolving in one of several different ways, some of them fairly tragic. Only a few of these scenarios involve reconciliation, and not all of those have happy endings.

Finally, as much as l have liked some of the stuff Carvohi has written in the past, he may in this instance have created a plotline that challenges his abilities as an author. As I was reading In the back of my mind I could hear the story screaming for a complete beginning to end edit/rewrite. It reads like a really good first draft to me.

If we're to see these characters evolve, there's a heck of a lot of development yet to come...

In 22 years, never a symptom of her drug abuse - except cheating 21 years in?
Is this really plausible? Massive addiction and dependence on drugs her whole life... almost seems like another scam on her part... Maybe someone who better understands drug dependence can clarify the real-world plausibility of her problem...

Perhaps the bigger problem is if we accept the plot-ploy of the addiction as viable. Then we're left with the magic redemption tale... - She stops the drugs and 'Poof' she's all better now.

Sure he was hurt.. and mad... but she's got a good excuse... "it wasn't my fault I'll be good from now on - and you can believe it because I've gotten over my addiction... the drugs made me do it" So his other loved ones will simply ignore his happiness and good health and railroad him into a RAAC.

I'm actually OK with reconciliations (see Ari by ohio or Dilemma by Joesephus -which has a hint of potential rec), but I do find RAAC plots tiresome.

-- do we get to see characters evolve? or will a reconciliation be forced and feel ... 'unclean' or (even more likely in this story) 'unhealthy'. She feels bad but we have no evidence she knows what really wrong yet. He's firmly committed as she describes him, "he'd been slow and deliberate; he was a man slow to act but firmly committed once he had." If we're to see these characters evolve, there's a heck of a lot of development yet to come...