Good written story, quite gripping.
But somebody with such a serious character flaw is not worth taking back, even under these circumstances. The next disappointment for him is not far down the road, when the next "great opportunity" arises for her. Whatever this opportunity will be - perhaps a rich man or a young virile lover when the husband will be past the prime. A prenup doesn't help either - if she gets a second chance now, she will believe that she can also get a third with her lovesick puppy husband (in case she later wants such a chance at all - maybe her next escape will be a more permanent issue than being a slut for a band).
Well written and that's about it! Some men must enjoy the torture of betrayal and humiliation. Why? I don't get it. It is not rational. Being in a relationship with a thief, a liar, a betrayer is never rational as a wife, business partner, friend or even family member. It is self destructive. The idea of having children with one is absolutely insane. So, while the feelings of sadness, regret, even remorse may all be true, it does not change the facts. Having anything to do with her is a such a bad idea that it defies even lower forms of intelligence.
Please stop apologising for your use of the English language
You are better at it than many of the other authors on this site and maybe most of those who write comments.
This has been, for me, a well-written story. Realism is not an issue. It's fiction, and good fiction. Those commentators who upset themselves because it's not the story they want it to be should simply not read this type of story.
Check first with lawyer for validation of alleged , ironclad prenup !
Enjoyed the read
but didn't believe it.
Women are
like cats
When they're done
With you.
They're Done
(with You)
Make a screenplay
of this story
And send to Will
Ferrell's agent
Five Stars
and full marks
To author along
with my thanks.
Entertainment value
Trumps credulity
Yet
Again,
When will
I ever learn
Never If
I'm Lucky
*****
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Anonymous06/28/15
The husband should have stated that if she wants the opportunity to be back in his life she has the choice of having two of her external body parts surgically removed. Be it fingers, ears, toes her choice. Have them preserved in a jar and presented to him for display. Then and only then can she attempt to gain back his trust. On the bright side if it doesn't work out all the future girlfriends wil have something to think about.
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Anonymous06/28/15
Total Drivel
Just crap - the good news is that when it reaches the bottom of the page it will disappear and never be seen again!
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Anonymous06/28/15
Ridiculous Story
She was incredibly cruel to him. Infidelity might be forgiveable, but not the humiliation and callous disregard. In the end just a cuck story. One star.
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Anonymous06/28/15
It made some kind of sense in the context of the story.
Difficult to imagine it in real life though.
My heart was broken once, but she did in in as kindly a way as she could. It took me a few years to fully recover so I have some sympathy for the guy.
However, If she had shit on me as per this story I think my love would have been wiped out a great deal more rapidly. Certainly days instead of years.
... I like a fiction story as much as the next guy but don't you think a story should have just, at least, a touch of realism. Absolutely amazed that this story rates over three because it certainly is a good, no make that great, candidate for top ten worst of all time. By the way, this has nothing to do with your writing skills which are actually quite good. Maybe you should quit worrying about your use of English and try to come up with more realistic stories.
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Anonymous06/28/15
Stupid unless you like cuckold stories
Let's face it, she cheated on him to become a fuck slut for a band and would not talk to him for 4 months by phone while she did it. She decided to leave her husband and stay with the for a full year (8 more months) since she knew he would not trust her after being the bands fuck slut. NO man would trust a woman after that, NO man would accept a contract about being faithful...Why? Because she already breached her marriage contract when she tool her marriage vows.
There may be people who are this stupid but I doubt it.
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Anonymous06/28/15
"I feel powerless and humiliated." How does anyone find this erotic and exciting? You're sick.
Self-emolation is probably the most extreme form of this disease, but it has many manifestations. Fantasizing about sexual betrayal and humiliation is one we see quite often in the LW category. Obnoxious on the surface, but really pathetic deep down. Men with this mental illness usually don't experience the actual betrayal because women are instinctively repelled by such self-hating personalities, so there is either no or only a very short relationship. Who wants to live with, partnership with, depend on, a man who has so little confidence or sense of self-worth? A man who thinks so little of himself cannot provide true love and support for a woman, and women sense this, quickly.
So they write fiction like this, since this is a close as they will ever get to the perverse rejection they crave. Very sad.
Stev2244's writing is actually quite good and it's getting better even if English is not his first language. His characters, however, are simply not believable. His male protagonists seem ambivalent and superficial and his female characters are spoiled and stupid.
This story could have been told in about a page but it dragged on and on until I just didn't care at all about the protagonist. He is a total loser and how he kept a job is beyond me. But this is fiction so anything is possible. Ashley is just an empty placeholder and his taking her back says more about his lack of character than anything else.
Reconciliation is a good thing if there is a reason to reconcile. This story gave no good reason to reconcile, there was no real change. Ashley got a vacation and fucked probably a hundred guys (she thinks it was fewer only because she couldn't count higher than ten). There were no consequences for her, and I don't believe she is any more loving or committed than at the top of the story. I am not saying BTB in the least but by taking her back she is affirmed in her behavior and in her understanding of relationships.
We did find out that the characters have a very strange understanding of love.
Maybe its just because I'm tired of stories in which the woman characters display no similarities to an actual breathing female. I don't know. I just know that I am a little worn thin on stories in which the contrite woman seeks redemption by accepting whatever shitty behavior the male protagonist heaps on her. She takes a vow of celibacy until she wins him over no matter who else he is fucking. Then she is redeemed when he finally fucks her. But he doesn't use the love making method that won her over in the first place. No. He treats her like a hooker. But being the 2 dimension woman she is, she doesn't see the difference. More than that, she loves it and THANKS HIM.
After being treated like shit for whatever time the protagonist deems necessary,not once does she say, "I tried. But he is not the man that I fell in love with. He is mean and hurtful. Now I've got to move on with my life."
It seems stories like this are just an ego boost to the broken male. In real life, no person is going to put themselves through this. The pain of getting over the person that you did wrong is a lot less than allowing that person to treat you like a punching bag until they feel like a real man again.
My not liking this story has nothing to do with the author's abilities as a writer. I'm just worn to death by this 2 dimensional female character.
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Anonymous06/28/15
at what point is there no coming back?
I like happy endings. I do like the occasional BTB and enjoy the reconciliation stories. I just have to ask at what point has she transgressed so much that there can be no reconciliation. I mean this pushes the envelope way past what anybody would accept or believe. Maybe in Europe the boundaries are wider but as a Minn. boy I can say that she blow passed and napalmed them along time ago. She left nothing but scorch earth and yet she wants everything back. Funny
I don't think there is a point at which a person can't be forgiven
I don't think there is a point at which a person transgressed that they can't be forgiven. Of course it depends on the person doing the forgiving. But if the wronged person can get past the transgression and the person doing the transgressing is truly repentant, then why not forgive?
Its funny how a person feels that there is a point at which they won't forgive, but in return wants unconditional forgiveness and understanding when they are the ones in need of absolution.
What if one unpaid bill resulted in bad credit, no matter how meticulous you were in building it up? What if a person cheated on a test one time and had to live a life of poverty? What if a person stole a loaf of bread and had to spend life in prison?
Of course these are on a smaller scale than when dealing with hurting another person, but a mistake is a mistake. Like I said, if the person who is hurt can forgive, who are we to judge him or her? Forgiveness does not make them a "wimp" or "willing cuckold". Just because you wouldn't forgive a transgression, that doesn't make you more of a man than the person who could.
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Anonymous06/28/15
humourous
okay, i know Germans are not renowned for a sense of humour, but really!! this has to be a wind-up submission,,, does'nt it??
total rubbish story..
...And partially for the being different. I liked catching the emotions he felt when suddenly finding himself abandoned with no real explanation.
Now can women go nuts when suddenly finding themselves with a favorite band member?
Yes, I know because I once was a band member, 8 years on the road showed me a lot about females. (Some of them, anyway) What does one DO with a housewife that suddenly happily slides into your bed when you are a young and overly horny young man that can play a guitar and sing a little bit?
Typically, you get to deal with a very angry husband and a clingy housewife that now just will NOT go away? The cops hauled off the angry hubby, left me with a 30 something that actually tried to climb in windows and hid in back seats.
For weeks.
Bits of possible, bits of maybe, bits of far fetched here. Kind of fun, brought back memories.
I liked it,
Thanks,
MGM
But I have to admit that I had fun submitting this and that I´ve come to like teasing the BTB crew. Whoever wants to discuss it is welcome to send me feedback. So far I´ve replied to every one.
I swear that I´m not rick_oh. But thanks for the hint. Maybe I´ll like his stuff...
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Anonymous06/28/15
gave it a 3
When the goons arrived for her stuff, she would have been history. Husband is a wimp.
Nope not very good.
I am on my android is I can't log in.
MCPO Jim
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Anonymous06/28/15
No man in the world whould take a wife back that did anything remotely close to that. She left him in the front row of a concert got fucked by the whole band sent security for her stuff who verbally abused her husband and thought it would be ok to return 4 months later after that night. She also fucked the whole staff not that it matters even after one guy. She is a pig never mind the cheating for anyone to do that which there are many groupies out there but they are all dirty pigs . If I met a girl and was totally in love with her and she told me 10 years ago when she was 21 she hooked up with a famous band for a couple of weeks, I would dump her on the spot because your past is always a part of your present and future. You are who you are and can never take away how you behaved like a pig
Not bad writing. A few wrong words (spelled correct but wrong word). Husband is unbelievable in taking her back. Nope, when the goons picked up her stuff I torn between not letting them in, let her get a court order, and telling them to take it all.
I can believe his relation ship with the second scum bag.
Would have been a 4* if he never talked to again.
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Anonymous06/28/15
I have been enjoying your submissions
It seemed I wasn't alone in going to your story first, this morning on the new story list. I think that says alot of folks here are rooting for you as an up and coming contributor. Certainly getting and retaining the attention of commenters like Javmor, Slamdog, Magmaman and others should make you feel good about this effort, even if the scores don't reflect total audience support.
Perhaps the thing you should be proudest of is writing in a second language as good or better than many using English as a first! I agree with the comment that you could even stop "warning" about the ESL, because in fact, you are an example to others that not only CAN it be done, but it can be done very well as ALL of your stories have proved. That is not to say that the RAAC warnings aren't and will not continue to be appreciated. I bet it helps many to know that at the end of this crooked journey, that they probably will find a way back. This doesn't spoil it, because it is HOW they manage to find this path, and WHY they do, that is the ACTUAL story.
Now then, I had a few comments ABOUT the story here. At first, I tend to look at the things HE did wrong. How could he have prevented this? What should he have done different? And Etc. The story progressing the way it does, might have veered away from reality, but as long as it remains "plausible", then many readers shouldn't have a problem with it. However, here were my questions, for whatever it is worth, about the set-up.
1) Why did he leave his seat? Wasting time outside obviously led to her dissapearance. At the end of the concert, if she doesn't reappear, then firmly inform the stagehands that she NEEDS to be located, or else the police will become involved, with charges of kidnapping, and reporting the threats of assault to him at the time she was forcibly removed from the audience.
2) So why WEREN'T the police contacted anyway, at any time? She was taken from him. Even if she went willingly, he doesn't KNOW that for sure. She could have been drugged and raped. I would think that it at least should have merited police investigation. Sure, rock stars have lawyers, but if this little chickee/groupie has a husband causing a thorn in their side, wouldn't they be more likely to cut her loose? Groupies are usuallly SINGLE, UNATTACHED women. Are these rock stars so naive to think carrying on with a married woman won't cause ANY problems? I'm sure it happens for a one night stand, but no offer to go on tour would have come to her, no matter how hot she is supposed to be. Were these guys really that stupid? Obviously hubby WAS, because from a legal standpoint, he offers ZERO resistance.
3) I am not saying that that these plot points should have been altered, as much as mentioned. He might have CONTEMPLATED calling the police, but takes a stand for apathy, and has a great scene of saying "Fuck it, and Fuck HER! I just don't give a shit anymore, since she doesn't give a shit about me!" You DID have him say some of this, but you glossed over much of those first weeks of abandonment. Those really were the heart of the story, and we would have appreciated him thinking out more of ALL of the angles. Here he reacts to his pain and doubt rather immediately, and doesn't appear to spend excess time thinking over his possibilities, except going ahead with the divorce.
4) It seems that it would have been hard to secure the 2 month (as described) divorce without her knowlege or contacting her. I don't know anything about Minnesota divorce laws, but you as the author SHOULD, if it is going to figure prominately in your story, like it did.
5) The scene where the roadies show up at the house to get her stuff. IMHO, this was the WORST for hubby. a) he shouldn't have let them in. b) anything she needs, her new boyfriend should buy for her. c) Call the Police if they threaten, and let them know that the Police have beeen called anyway to help prove that her disappearence isn't the result of foul play at the hubby's hands. d) at very least, send the message back to her, that if she wants any of her stuff, she is more than welcome to come back and get it....HERSELF! Until then, further contact should transpire through the lawyer!
Now after the fact, he tries to move on. His rebound experience finds him with another cheater. OK. Some of the problem was his lack of trust, and being unable to make a commitment. I would have liked it if she had zinged him real bad with something like "I would have loved to settle down and be committed ONLY to you forever, but when you told me we weren't going to be married, I started looking elsewhere to find my permanent Prince Charming. No Marriage? No Monogamy!" I think this might have been an interesting image and message to those having a hard time moving on from tragedy, and commiting again. Also, it might have helped to portray his rebound girlfriend as something a little more complicated than just another evil bitch! Javmor is right when he says that what makes these stories interesting is when they are populated with interesting women. Unfortunately it is very hard to get passed gender biased stereotypes with a predominantly male authorship around here. My advice to you and ALL authors around here is to spend time really interviewing REAL women for use as a basis of your female characters.
Lastly, You have the Ex-Wife-Cum-Groupie-Slut do a full 180 degree turnaround, and this is supposed to be enough to warrant the reconcilliation. Although it might come from a sense of insecurity, I would want and NEED to know her reasons WHY. Why did she want me back so bad? What is it about me? What was it about our marriage that she wants to recapture? How do we know nothing like this will happen again? Were her described efforts enough to rebuild trust? Not really for me. You illustrate her desire to have him back at any cost to her, but it remains unexplained WHY she wants him back so bad. Cause she loves him? Sorry, but that isn't enough. If it wasn't enough for her to prevent her becoming a groupie, than it isn't enough to allow them to get back together.
Understand, my problem ISN'T that you have them get back together. It is that you never convinced me (or others) that it was in fact the right thing to do. No she didn't have to punished more. I actually liked the long period of self-enforced celibacy, after slutting it up so bad. But I want to know that her heart is in the right place. I want to know that her motivations are for better reasons than just the obvious selfish ones. Is she just someone who is upset that her puppy dog ran away? Sure, the tears flow, and signs go up around the neighborhood. But after awhile, a new dog could be rescued from the pound. So WHY did it have to be him? I wanted MOST to know her reasons for pursuing him so much, and that is much of what you left out of this story.
I hope you understand that I was glad to read a new story from you, and will look forward to the next. All my comments are only meant to give you and the other commentors something to think about. I hope you find it constructive more than critical. Thanks very much for your time and efforts!
My biggest problem with the story is that the wife is selfish. It's obvious when she goes off with the band, but moreso when she attempts reconciliation. She wants to be reconciled. Her standards have already been degraded by her previous actions, so there certainly are no limits on how low she will stoop to get what she wants. The fact that she's willing "to let him have Clara" only meshes with the fact that she had band members. If she really wanted to prove that she's not a selfish bitch, she should have done something /he/ wanted that didn't involve her at all. Personally, her presence after a night with Clara would have pissed me off. Ashley was probably the reason Clara ran off -- that was too weird.
@stev2244 Do you think that splitting up and divorce are BTB?
You said you like messing with the BTB crowd but I haven't seen a comment thus far that advocated anything approaching BTB. Most of us probably don't favor reconciliation within the context of the story we've been told but retribution has not been mentioned. So if your goal was to stir up the BTB crowd, you failed.
As I've said before you are a good writer and story teller but your storylines just aren't creditable thus far and your characters are cardboard cutouts. A little effort to embellish those characters and storylines that might actually happen will establish you as one of the rising stars at literotica.
She was so successfully made out to be a butch that the reconciliation was just too easy. Who would take her back without significantly more angst? Otherwise, fun story.
You almost wrote an "ohio" style RAAC tale, but then you took it to the extreme. While I'm usually an advocate of Zero Tolerance when it comes to cheating, I do, on rare occasions, enjoy a good reconciliation if it's written in a believable manner.
That said, this was everything but a good or believable reconciliation. I was left shaking my head in disbelief at this one. No normal man with even a speck of self-respect would take back a wife that did that to him. She did everything to disrespect him and so did the "security" goons that came to get her stuff. Not to mention all the STDs she probably picked up during her misadventures. That isn't love in any way, shape, or form.
2 Stars. Next time you write a reconciliation, at least try to make it believable.
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Anonymous06/28/15
Javmor
"I don't think there is a point at which a person transgressed that they can't be forgiven. Of course it depends on the person doing the forgiving."
Yeah. According to your previous comment, it depends on their sex. If it's a man forgiving a woman, anything can and should be forgiven. The transgressing woman, however, should forgive the hurt man nothing he might have done in retaliation. Weird.
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Anonymous06/28/15
you really are
even with your intro , you'r a dumb shithead.
put shit like that in the wastebasket and don't write something like: I like reconciliation stories !
in Deutsch: bleib dort und behalte deinen aufgestauten Müll für dich
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Anonymous06/28/15
So shoot me.
It's totally unrealistic, of course, but within the confines of the story she really was repentant and so it made sense for him to take her back. So I like this and I like the author.
For someone who did not want to hear from his ex, why did he not CHANGE HIS CELL NUMBER. He was changing cities why not his phone #. Stupid. She had money and could have hired an investigator to locate him. Somewhat unrealistic for the whole scenario.
@all: I do read every single comment. Thanks for every one. The "less witty" ones are good fun. Some others are amazingly insightful. I feel honored that several authors I respect have cared to comment or even favorite my stories.
@Azpiri: yes, to be honest, as I´m new here, I might not be totally familiar with the buzzwords. So I thought BTB stands for those guys that want to see the offending female pay. And the RAAC crowd favor a reconciliation. As everybody knows, I favor the latter. Being fully aware what that means for the votes. My impression is that many anons expect the former way and express their opinion in a rather crude way :D I have been thinking about ending this story in a slightly different way. But I kept it like this after submitting "Katy", partially to have fun with those crude anon commenters. That´s what I wanted to express earlier. I generally don´t take this writing stuff too serious. It should be fun for everyone involved.
@palewriter: Thanks for your encouragement to keep writing. Of course I will as I´m writing mainly for myself. I have submitted 5 more or less randomly selected stories. They are not in the sequence that I´ve written them. I have written several dozen stories, many of those are ready to be submitted. I´m still a little undecided about submitting more. They are comparable to the currently submitted ones. Submitting them wouldn´t improve the world much. The longest and most important ones (for me) have not been submitted yet. I´m not sure if I want to push them into this furnace ;)
@anonymous "I have been enjoying your submissions": thanks for your detailed comment. Contact me with the feedback form if you want to. I appreciate your comment. It might have improved this story if I had read it in advance.
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Anonymous06/28/15
"Warning - I like reconciliation stories."
That may be and there's nothing wrong with a well done reconciliation story where it makes sense and is logical. There's one problem with your disclaimer: you suck at them.
You supplied reason after reason why he shouldn't take her back, but little if any reasons why he shoud. Her exaplanations after she came back were the same while she was away..
The worst is that you insist on writing in first person. This means we know what he is thinking and feeling. Every thought and feeling -- EVERY one of them -- details reasons why he love for her is dead. Instead of being true to these moments, you negate them without a thougth or effort. She talks a little bit, she comes around a little, and you threw EVERYTHING away..
If you are going to ignore what you write for a forced, phony reconcilitaion, do yourself a favor and write in third person. The way you are writing stories, they are lies.
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Anonymous06/28/15
Drivel.
Poorly written. Stupid "plot". Wooden characters.
Turrble.
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Anonymous06/28/15
what the fuck is this shit?
the best I can figure is that reading it is a waste of time.
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Anonymous06/28/15
Believable Reconciliacion versus RAAC
The reconciliation is belieable when the cheating or disrespection will not repeat (some time later) and the cheating and disrespection were not humuliation pluss the inocent gets honest regrets and redemption from the faulty.
If these are not the Reconciliation = RAAC.
The reader must decide alone.
According to me the next examples are not RAAC:
Ohio's story "Visiting Richard Gronier".
One of the daughters gets Child Leukemia and this time the husband discovers the wife's cheating in her job. He destroys the loverboy in a clever revenge and unite the family to strengthen his daughter's struggle against the Leukemia.
The ill daughter heals up from Leukemia and the husband thinks his wife cheats again, but the wife participiates to destroy a predator in her job. After marriage counseling they save their marriage for sake of their kids.
In this case the interest of the ill daughter inniciated everything and the late marriage crisy was solved to show the wife did not cheat again. The story was not RAAC!
K.K. story "Flight Delay".
The husband discovers his wife had an adventure after a family confront. The husband's job needs many travels. The husband does a contracheating in his distant last job. He got constant job in the headquarter of the company with few travels. After this he finds his wife had only 1 cheating and they start marriage counseling and they save their marriage and after long European holydays they plan kids.........The story is not RAAC.
Not badly written, prob a 2 except the extreme cuck concept reduces to a 2
I mean she totally rippied this guys heart out without a second thought. Didnt communicate with him the night of the concert, then wouldnt take his calls and sends two goons over to get his stuff. And he takes her back-not at all realistic, despite the writer's long winded efforts to show her remorse and repentance.
The lack of realism kills the emotional connection for the reader, and thus the low score.
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Anonymous06/28/15
re: willing cuckolds,
You walk a really fine line here. Yeah, while she's cheating on him, while she takes off and is convident he will just take her back, while she is ignoring him, he is an unwilling cuckold. However, WHEN she comes back, he puts up minimal resistance and the, suddenly, out of the blue with nothing to support it, he takes her back. She treats him like shit, she DOESN'T love him, and she gets away with it. This essentially turns him into a very willing cuckold.
Your stories seem to be that the wife can to whatever she wants, she can be as self-centered as much as she wants, she can treat her husband like dirt, but, that's okay, she LOVES him, so it all works out in the end. Bullshit.
You want to write reconciliation stories? Fine, do so, but don't insult the readers' intelligence with them.
In doupt
Not sure love to conquer massive cheating like this does exist
Reconciliation? Seriously?
Good written story, quite gripping.
But somebody with such a serious character flaw is not worth taking back, even under these circumstances. The next disappointment for him is not far down the road, when the next "great opportunity" arises for her. Whatever this opportunity will be - perhaps a rich man or a young virile lover when the husband will be past the prime. A prenup doesn't help either - if she gets a second chance now, she will believe that she can also get a third with her lovesick puppy husband (in case she later wants such a chance at all - maybe her next escape will be a more permanent issue than being a slut for a band).
Well Written
Well written and that's about it! Some men must enjoy the torture of betrayal and humiliation. Why? I don't get it. It is not rational. Being in a relationship with a thief, a liar, a betrayer is never rational as a wife, business partner, friend or even family member. It is self destructive. The idea of having children with one is absolutely insane. So, while the feelings of sadness, regret, even remorse may all be true, it does not change the facts. Having anything to do with her is a such a bad idea that it defies even lower forms of intelligence.
1*
Only an enormous pile of shit
This isn't love
It's infatuation and ego. She is a narcissist incapable of mature love and he will be burned again, because she is profoundly immature.
Please stop apologising for your use of the English language
You are better at it than many of the other authors on this site and maybe most of those who write comments.
This has been, for me, a well-written story. Realism is not an issue. It's fiction, and good fiction. Those commentators who upset themselves because it's not the story they want it to be should simply not read this type of story.
L
Check first with lawyer for validation of alleged , ironclad prenup !
Enjoyed the read
but didn't believe it.
Women are
like cats
When they're done
With you.
They're Done
(with You)
Make a screenplay
of this story
And send to Will
Ferrell's agent
Five Stars
and full marks
To author along
with my thanks.
Entertainment value
Trumps credulity
Yet
Again,
When will
I ever learn
Never If
I'm Lucky
*****
The husband should have stated that if she wants the opportunity to be back in his life she has the choice of having two of her external body parts surgically removed. Be it fingers, ears, toes her choice. Have them preserved in a jar and presented to him for display. Then and only then can she attempt to gain back his trust. On the bright side if it doesn't work out all the future girlfriends wil have something to think about.
Total Drivel
Just crap - the good news is that when it reaches the bottom of the page it will disappear and never be seen again!
Ridiculous Story
She was incredibly cruel to him. Infidelity might be forgiveable, but not the humiliation and callous disregard. In the end just a cuck story. One star.
It made some kind of sense in the context of the story.
Difficult to imagine it in real life though.
My heart was broken once, but she did in in as kindly a way as she could. It took me a few years to fully recover so I have some sympathy for the guy.
However, If she had shit on me as per this story I think my love would have been wiped out a great deal more rapidly. Certainly days instead of years.
Still a good tale.
You are kidding, right?...
... I like a fiction story as much as the next guy but don't you think a story should have just, at least, a touch of realism. Absolutely amazed that this story rates over three because it certainly is a good, no make that great, candidate for top ten worst of all time. By the way, this has nothing to do with your writing skills which are actually quite good. Maybe you should quit worrying about your use of English and try to come up with more realistic stories.
Stupid unless you like cuckold stories
Let's face it, she cheated on him to become a fuck slut for a band and would not talk to him for 4 months by phone while she did it. She decided to leave her husband and stay with the for a full year (8 more months) since she knew he would not trust her after being the bands fuck slut. NO man would trust a woman after that, NO man would accept a contract about being faithful...Why? Because she already breached her marriage contract when she tool her marriage vows.
I liked it
Just thought I'd mention that.
I wonder
There may be people who are this stupid but I doubt it.
"I feel powerless and humiliated." How does anyone find this erotic and exciting? You're sick.
Self-emolation is probably the most extreme form of this disease, but it has many manifestations. Fantasizing about sexual betrayal and humiliation is one we see quite often in the LW category. Obnoxious on the surface, but really pathetic deep down. Men with this mental illness usually don't experience the actual betrayal because women are instinctively repelled by such self-hating personalities, so there is either no or only a very short relationship. Who wants to live with, partnership with, depend on, a man who has so little confidence or sense of self-worth? A man who thinks so little of himself cannot provide true love and support for a woman, and women sense this, quickly.
So they write fiction like this, since this is a close as they will ever get to the perverse rejection they crave. Very sad.
I hope you get help.
Absurd, or European, not sure which
Stev2244's writing is actually quite good and it's getting better even if English is not his first language. His characters, however, are simply not believable. His male protagonists seem ambivalent and superficial and his female characters are spoiled and stupid.
This story could have been told in about a page but it dragged on and on until I just didn't care at all about the protagonist. He is a total loser and how he kept a job is beyond me. But this is fiction so anything is possible. Ashley is just an empty placeholder and his taking her back says more about his lack of character than anything else.
Reconciliation is a good thing if there is a reason to reconcile. This story gave no good reason to reconcile, there was no real change. Ashley got a vacation and fucked probably a hundred guys (she thinks it was fewer only because she couldn't count higher than ten). There were no consequences for her, and I don't believe she is any more loving or committed than at the top of the story. I am not saying BTB in the least but by taking her back she is affirmed in her behavior and in her understanding of relationships.
We did find out that the characters have a very strange understanding of love.
Liked it but felt the reconciliation was forced. Didn't feel like anything changed in either person.
Decently written but I didn't enjoy it.
Maybe its just because I'm tired of stories in which the woman characters display no similarities to an actual breathing female. I don't know. I just know that I am a little worn thin on stories in which the contrite woman seeks redemption by accepting whatever shitty behavior the male protagonist heaps on her. She takes a vow of celibacy until she wins him over no matter who else he is fucking. Then she is redeemed when he finally fucks her. But he doesn't use the love making method that won her over in the first place. No. He treats her like a hooker. But being the 2 dimension woman she is, she doesn't see the difference. More than that, she loves it and THANKS HIM.
After being treated like shit for whatever time the protagonist deems necessary,not once does she say, "I tried. But he is not the man that I fell in love with. He is mean and hurtful. Now I've got to move on with my life."
It seems stories like this are just an ego boost to the broken male. In real life, no person is going to put themselves through this. The pain of getting over the person that you did wrong is a lot less than allowing that person to treat you like a punching bag until they feel like a real man again.
My not liking this story has nothing to do with the author's abilities as a writer. I'm just worn to death by this 2 dimensional female character.
at what point is there no coming back?
I like happy endings. I do like the occasional BTB and enjoy the reconciliation stories. I just have to ask at what point has she transgressed so much that there can be no reconciliation. I mean this pushes the envelope way past what anybody would accept or believe. Maybe in Europe the boundaries are wider but as a Minn. boy I can say that she blow passed and napalmed them along time ago. She left nothing but scorch earth and yet she wants everything back. Funny
Tried to read but couldn't
I guess I can't read Drivel any longer! I suggest the writer Grow a Pair!
I don't think there is a point at which a person can't be forgiven
I don't think there is a point at which a person transgressed that they can't be forgiven. Of course it depends on the person doing the forgiving. But if the wronged person can get past the transgression and the person doing the transgressing is truly repentant, then why not forgive?
Its funny how a person feels that there is a point at which they won't forgive, but in return wants unconditional forgiveness and understanding when they are the ones in need of absolution.
What if one unpaid bill resulted in bad credit, no matter how meticulous you were in building it up? What if a person cheated on a test one time and had to live a life of poverty? What if a person stole a loaf of bread and had to spend life in prison?
Of course these are on a smaller scale than when dealing with hurting another person, but a mistake is a mistake. Like I said, if the person who is hurt can forgive, who are we to judge him or her? Forgiveness does not make them a "wimp" or "willing cuckold". Just because you wouldn't forgive a transgression, that doesn't make you more of a man than the person who could.
humourous
okay, i know Germans are not renowned for a sense of humour, but really!! this has to be a wind-up submission,,, does'nt it??
total rubbish story..
Partly for the good writing..
...And partially for the being different. I liked catching the emotions he felt when suddenly finding himself abandoned with no real explanation.
Now can women go nuts when suddenly finding themselves with a favorite band member?
Yes, I know because I once was a band member, 8 years on the road showed me a lot about females. (Some of them, anyway) What does one DO with a housewife that suddenly happily slides into your bed when you are a young and overly horny young man that can play a guitar and sing a little bit?
Typically, you get to deal with a very angry husband and a clingy housewife that now just will NOT go away? The cops hauled off the angry hubby, left me with a 30 something that actually tried to climb in windows and hid in back seats.
For weeks.
Bits of possible, bits of maybe, bits of far fetched here. Kind of fun, brought back memories.
I liked it,
Thanks,
MGM
I won´t tell if it´s a wind-up submission ;)
But I have to admit that I had fun submitting this and that I´ve come to like teasing the BTB crew. Whoever wants to discuss it is welcome to send me feedback. So far I´ve replied to every one.
if i didnt know any better i'd guess
you are rick_oh. i just got done reading caged no more, and it is the EXACT same style as all your stories. the EXACT same.
I swear that I´m not rick_oh. But thanks for the hint. Maybe I´ll like his stuff...
gave it a 3
When the goons arrived for her stuff, she would have been history. Husband is a wimp.
Nope not very good.
I am on my android is I can't log in.
MCPO Jim
No man in the world whould take a wife back that did anything remotely close to that. She left him in the front row of a concert got fucked by the whole band sent security for her stuff who verbally abused her husband and thought it would be ok to return 4 months later after that night. She also fucked the whole staff not that it matters even after one guy. She is a pig never mind the cheating for anyone to do that which there are many groupies out there but they are all dirty pigs . If I met a girl and was totally in love with her and she told me 10 years ago when she was 21 she hooked up with a famous band for a couple of weeks, I would dump her on the spot because your past is always a part of your present and future. You are who you are and can never take away how you behaved like a pig
give it a 3*
Not bad writing. A few wrong words (spelled correct but wrong word). Husband is unbelievable in taking her back. Nope, when the goons picked up her stuff I torn between not letting them in, let her get a court order, and telling them to take it all.
I can believe his relation ship with the second scum bag.
Would have been a 4* if he never talked to again.
I have been enjoying your submissions
It seemed I wasn't alone in going to your story first, this morning on the new story list. I think that says alot of folks here are rooting for you as an up and coming contributor. Certainly getting and retaining the attention of commenters like Javmor, Slamdog, Magmaman and others should make you feel good about this effort, even if the scores don't reflect total audience support.
Perhaps the thing you should be proudest of is writing in a second language as good or better than many using English as a first! I agree with the comment that you could even stop "warning" about the ESL, because in fact, you are an example to others that not only CAN it be done, but it can be done very well as ALL of your stories have proved. That is not to say that the RAAC warnings aren't and will not continue to be appreciated. I bet it helps many to know that at the end of this crooked journey, that they probably will find a way back. This doesn't spoil it, because it is HOW they manage to find this path, and WHY they do, that is the ACTUAL story.
Now then, I had a few comments ABOUT the story here. At first, I tend to look at the things HE did wrong. How could he have prevented this? What should he have done different? And Etc. The story progressing the way it does, might have veered away from reality, but as long as it remains "plausible", then many readers shouldn't have a problem with it. However, here were my questions, for whatever it is worth, about the set-up.
1) Why did he leave his seat? Wasting time outside obviously led to her dissapearance. At the end of the concert, if she doesn't reappear, then firmly inform the stagehands that she NEEDS to be located, or else the police will become involved, with charges of kidnapping, and reporting the threats of assault to him at the time she was forcibly removed from the audience.
2) So why WEREN'T the police contacted anyway, at any time? She was taken from him. Even if she went willingly, he doesn't KNOW that for sure. She could have been drugged and raped. I would think that it at least should have merited police investigation. Sure, rock stars have lawyers, but if this little chickee/groupie has a husband causing a thorn in their side, wouldn't they be more likely to cut her loose? Groupies are usuallly SINGLE, UNATTACHED women. Are these rock stars so naive to think carrying on with a married woman won't cause ANY problems? I'm sure it happens for a one night stand, but no offer to go on tour would have come to her, no matter how hot she is supposed to be. Were these guys really that stupid? Obviously hubby WAS, because from a legal standpoint, he offers ZERO resistance.
3) I am not saying that that these plot points should have been altered, as much as mentioned. He might have CONTEMPLATED calling the police, but takes a stand for apathy, and has a great scene of saying "Fuck it, and Fuck HER! I just don't give a shit anymore, since she doesn't give a shit about me!" You DID have him say some of this, but you glossed over much of those first weeks of abandonment. Those really were the heart of the story, and we would have appreciated him thinking out more of ALL of the angles. Here he reacts to his pain and doubt rather immediately, and doesn't appear to spend excess time thinking over his possibilities, except going ahead with the divorce.
4) It seems that it would have been hard to secure the 2 month (as described) divorce without her knowlege or contacting her. I don't know anything about Minnesota divorce laws, but you as the author SHOULD, if it is going to figure prominately in your story, like it did.
5) The scene where the roadies show up at the house to get her stuff. IMHO, this was the WORST for hubby. a) he shouldn't have let them in. b) anything she needs, her new boyfriend should buy for her. c) Call the Police if they threaten, and let them know that the Police have beeen called anyway to help prove that her disappearence isn't the result of foul play at the hubby's hands. d) at very least, send the message back to her, that if she wants any of her stuff, she is more than welcome to come back and get it....HERSELF! Until then, further contact should transpire through the lawyer!
Now after the fact, he tries to move on. His rebound experience finds him with another cheater. OK. Some of the problem was his lack of trust, and being unable to make a commitment. I would have liked it if she had zinged him real bad with something like "I would have loved to settle down and be committed ONLY to you forever, but when you told me we weren't going to be married, I started looking elsewhere to find my permanent Prince Charming. No Marriage? No Monogamy!" I think this might have been an interesting image and message to those having a hard time moving on from tragedy, and commiting again. Also, it might have helped to portray his rebound girlfriend as something a little more complicated than just another evil bitch! Javmor is right when he says that what makes these stories interesting is when they are populated with interesting women. Unfortunately it is very hard to get passed gender biased stereotypes with a predominantly male authorship around here. My advice to you and ALL authors around here is to spend time really interviewing REAL women for use as a basis of your female characters.
Lastly, You have the Ex-Wife-Cum-Groupie-Slut do a full 180 degree turnaround, and this is supposed to be enough to warrant the reconcilliation. Although it might come from a sense of insecurity, I would want and NEED to know her reasons WHY. Why did she want me back so bad? What is it about me? What was it about our marriage that she wants to recapture? How do we know nothing like this will happen again? Were her described efforts enough to rebuild trust? Not really for me. You illustrate her desire to have him back at any cost to her, but it remains unexplained WHY she wants him back so bad. Cause she loves him? Sorry, but that isn't enough. If it wasn't enough for her to prevent her becoming a groupie, than it isn't enough to allow them to get back together.
Understand, my problem ISN'T that you have them get back together. It is that you never convinced me (or others) that it was in fact the right thing to do. No she didn't have to punished more. I actually liked the long period of self-enforced celibacy, after slutting it up so bad. But I want to know that her heart is in the right place. I want to know that her motivations are for better reasons than just the obvious selfish ones. Is she just someone who is upset that her puppy dog ran away? Sure, the tears flow, and signs go up around the neighborhood. But after awhile, a new dog could be rescued from the pound. So WHY did it have to be him? I wanted MOST to know her reasons for pursuing him so much, and that is much of what you left out of this story.
I hope you understand that I was glad to read a new story from you, and will look forward to the next. All my comments are only meant to give you and the other commentors something to think about. I hope you find it constructive more than critical. Thanks very much for your time and efforts!
Selfish
My biggest problem with the story is that the wife is selfish. It's obvious when she goes off with the band, but moreso when she attempts reconciliation. She wants to be reconciled. Her standards have already been degraded by her previous actions, so there certainly are no limits on how low she will stoop to get what she wants. The fact that she's willing "to let him have Clara" only meshes with the fact that she had band members. If she really wanted to prove that she's not a selfish bitch, she should have done something /he/ wanted that didn't involve her at all. Personally, her presence after a night with Clara would have pissed me off. Ashley was probably the reason Clara ran off -- that was too weird.
@stev2244 Do you think that splitting up and divorce are BTB?
You said you like messing with the BTB crowd but I haven't seen a comment thus far that advocated anything approaching BTB. Most of us probably don't favor reconciliation within the context of the story we've been told but retribution has not been mentioned. So if your goal was to stir up the BTB crowd, you failed.
As I've said before you are a good writer and story teller but your storylines just aren't creditable thus far and your characters are cardboard cutouts. A little effort to embellish those characters and storylines that might actually happen will establish you as one of the rising stars at literotica.
Keep writing
She's just too bad
She was so successfully made out to be a butch that the reconciliation was just too easy. Who would take her back without significantly more angst? Otherwise, fun story.
Good writing ability. Terrible RAAC ending.
You almost wrote an "ohio" style RAAC tale, but then you took it to the extreme. While I'm usually an advocate of Zero Tolerance when it comes to cheating, I do, on rare occasions, enjoy a good reconciliation if it's written in a believable manner.
That said, this was everything but a good or believable reconciliation. I was left shaking my head in disbelief at this one. No normal man with even a speck of self-respect would take back a wife that did that to him. She did everything to disrespect him and so did the "security" goons that came to get her stuff. Not to mention all the STDs she probably picked up during her misadventures. That isn't love in any way, shape, or form.
2 Stars. Next time you write a reconciliation, at least try to make it believable.
Javmor
"I don't think there is a point at which a person transgressed that they can't be forgiven. Of course it depends on the person doing the forgiving."
Yeah. According to your previous comment, it depends on their sex. If it's a man forgiving a woman, anything can and should be forgiven. The transgressing woman, however, should forgive the hurt man nothing he might have done in retaliation. Weird.
you really are
even with your intro , you'r a dumb shithead.
put shit like that in the wastebasket and don't write something like: I like reconciliation stories !
in Deutsch: bleib dort und behalte deinen aufgestauten Müll für dich
So shoot me.
It's totally unrealistic, of course, but within the confines of the story she really was repentant and so it made sense for him to take her back. So I like this and I like the author.
No realism...
For someone who did not want to hear from his ex, why did he not CHANGE HIS CELL NUMBER. He was changing cities why not his phone #. Stupid. She had money and could have hired an investigator to locate him. Somewhat unrealistic for the whole scenario.
@all: I do read every single comment. Thanks for every one. The "less witty" ones are good fun. Some others are amazingly insightful. I feel honored that several authors I respect have cared to comment or even favorite my stories.
@Azpiri: yes, to be honest, as I´m new here, I might not be totally familiar with the buzzwords. So I thought BTB stands for those guys that want to see the offending female pay. And the RAAC crowd favor a reconciliation. As everybody knows, I favor the latter. Being fully aware what that means for the votes. My impression is that many anons expect the former way and express their opinion in a rather crude way :D I have been thinking about ending this story in a slightly different way. But I kept it like this after submitting "Katy", partially to have fun with those crude anon commenters. That´s what I wanted to express earlier. I generally don´t take this writing stuff too serious. It should be fun for everyone involved.
@palewriter: Thanks for your encouragement to keep writing. Of course I will as I´m writing mainly for myself. I have submitted 5 more or less randomly selected stories. They are not in the sequence that I´ve written them. I have written several dozen stories, many of those are ready to be submitted. I´m still a little undecided about submitting more. They are comparable to the currently submitted ones. Submitting them wouldn´t improve the world much. The longest and most important ones (for me) have not been submitted yet. I´m not sure if I want to push them into this furnace ;)
@anonymous "I have been enjoying your submissions": thanks for your detailed comment. Contact me with the feedback form if you want to. I appreciate your comment. It might have improved this story if I had read it in advance.
"Warning - I like reconciliation stories."
That may be and there's nothing wrong with a well done reconciliation story where it makes sense and is logical. There's one problem with your disclaimer: you suck at them.
You supplied reason after reason why he shouldn't take her back, but little if any reasons why he shoud. Her exaplanations after she came back were the same while she was away..
The worst is that you insist on writing in first person. This means we know what he is thinking and feeling. Every thought and feeling -- EVERY one of them -- details reasons why he love for her is dead. Instead of being true to these moments, you negate them without a thougth or effort. She talks a little bit, she comes around a little, and you threw EVERYTHING away..
If you are going to ignore what you write for a forced, phony reconcilitaion, do yourself a favor and write in third person. The way you are writing stories, they are lies.
Drivel.
Poorly written. Stupid "plot". Wooden characters.
Turrble.
what the fuck is this shit?
the best I can figure is that reading it is a waste of time.
Believable Reconciliacion versus RAAC
The reconciliation is belieable when the cheating or disrespection will not repeat (some time later) and the cheating and disrespection were not humuliation pluss the inocent gets honest regrets and redemption from the faulty.
If these are not the Reconciliation = RAAC.
The reader must decide alone.
According to me the next examples are not RAAC:
Ohio's story "Visiting Richard Gronier".
One of the daughters gets Child Leukemia and this time the husband discovers the wife's cheating in her job. He destroys the loverboy in a clever revenge and unite the family to strengthen his daughter's struggle against the Leukemia.
The ill daughter heals up from Leukemia and the husband thinks his wife cheats again, but the wife participiates to destroy a predator in her job. After marriage counseling they save their marriage for sake of their kids.
In this case the interest of the ill daughter inniciated everything and the late marriage crisy was solved to show the wife did not cheat again. The story was not RAAC!
K.K. story "Flight Delay".
The husband discovers his wife had an adventure after a family confront. The husband's job needs many travels. The husband does a contracheating in his distant last job. He got constant job in the headquarter of the company with few travels. After this he finds his wife had only 1 cheating and they start marriage counseling and they save their marriage and after long European holydays they plan kids.........The story is not RAAC.
Not badly written, prob a 2 except the extreme cuck concept reduces to a 2
I mean she totally rippied this guys heart out without a second thought. Didnt communicate with him the night of the concert, then wouldnt take his calls and sends two goons over to get his stuff. And he takes her back-not at all realistic, despite the writer's long winded efforts to show her remorse and repentance.
The lack of realism kills the emotional connection for the reader, and thus the low score.
re: willing cuckolds,
You walk a really fine line here. Yeah, while she's cheating on him, while she takes off and is convident he will just take her back, while she is ignoring him, he is an unwilling cuckold. However, WHEN she comes back, he puts up minimal resistance and the, suddenly, out of the blue with nothing to support it, he takes her back. She treats him like shit, she DOESN'T love him, and she gets away with it. This essentially turns him into a very willing cuckold.
Your stories seem to be that the wife can to whatever she wants, she can be as self-centered as much as she wants, she can treat her husband like dirt, but, that's okay, she LOVES him, so it all works out in the end. Bullshit.
You want to write reconciliation stories? Fine, do so, but don't insult the readers' intelligence with them.
The looser and the whore
They deserve each other. Sorry for their kids.
Predictable, but not bad
A cross between "Her Next Husband" by BigK10 and "Long After the Game" by Jezazz.
Despite what he wrote in the preamble
it is a willing cuck story.
What has been seen...
Cannot be unseen. Really wish I could have back the fifteen minutes I wasted reading this.
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