Thirty Minutes

It's been a while

We could have waited while you wrote a real story. This was more like a paragraph or two and it was as stupid as hell. It's "burn the secretary" now? Real macho bullshit. We get a lot of pleasure out of people bullying silly secretaries. What a couple of asses. Author too for writing this crap.

Wrong category, should have been non erotic.

@IT'S BEEN A WHILE

It isn't bullying. This happens in real life and is what happens when you can't follow simple orders. It wasn't her place to think, it was her place to follow instructions to the letter.

Fair

She didn't respect that his instructions were valid and assumed she knew best with overriding his desires.

thank you

now if you could just write a flash story about these idiots that ruin people life on social media because they like some your commenters know what you should write and know what's best for every body except themselves.

Real Life

In the workplace, when you don't do what you're told to do and are expected to do , you're gone. Life is as simple as that.

Interesting

Carolyn disobeyed her immediate supervisor. There is your cause for dismissal.
Obviously, she was trying to repair the damage done by her bosses wife, who obviously cheated. Friends can intervene, subordinates have to follow rules. No muss. No fuss. Bye, Car'

DOES IT OCCUR TO ANYONE

that Mr Stark may be involved. TK U MLJ LV NV

Yes, it's bullying

She called the wife back AFTER work. During work hours, she adhered to her boss's instructions. The author was clear on that. Unless there was a compelling need for corporate secrecy, she may not have been obligated to follow such instructions. In fact, if such instructions of a personal nature made her feel uncomfortable it can even be a form of harassment.

Even Stark admits -- "What you had to do," Mr. Stark retorted, "was do what is expected of you at work." Note the last five words. Note the last two words. He KNOWS she did nothing wrong, and is trying to cover himself if he has to go to court. He can quote his exact words, but then fudge a little bit about misunderstanding when she actually called Mrs Snow. BUT HE STILL MAY BE WRONG.

Note that her boss commanded her to keep secret things that we SUSPECT are of a personal nature, but we don't know for sure. We do not know the legalities involved. If he's molesting children, if he's cheating, if he's selling drugs, if he's selling trade secrets, if he's stealing money that was his wife's family, if he's bleeding money from his children's college account . . . some of this is legal, some questionable, some very illegal . . . regardless . . . if he's doing anything NON-business related and she knows it, he does not have the right to tell her to keep his whereabouts and actions secret and not to talk to anyone about it. If there is even a hint of impropriety, not only is he in trouble, Stark's in big trouble too. In fact, with a decent attorney, she is rehired with a good settlement, and both her boss and Stark are at the very least, put on probation . . . possibly fired. A business's employees (a business resource) are not there for personal use and advancement (which this may well be).

Anony . . . I'm a bit worried about your misunderstanding not only what constitutes bullying, but what is harassment and possibly downright illegal.

Good work on the part of the author. I think he/she caught a lot of misogynists on this one!! Cleverly enough written to get one on the side of the bad guys.

THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE

the messenger is in for a world of Deep Doggy Du-du. TK U MLJ LV NV

could be cause for reprimand, not necessarily dismissal

stick to what you know betrayed - smoking cocks and eating creampies like all closetcuckys - leave the big thinking to the adults.

In fact the more I think about it . . .

The more I think about it, Stark's the one who's really in trouble. Mr. Snow could claim truthfully that he did indeed ask Carolyn not to pass on any calls at work, but he understood that anything else was personal, and that he had no control there. He could then claim how upset he was with Stark for abusing his secretary in this way, and that of course he'd want his wife put through in an emergency.

The company removes, demotes, or transfers Stark for harassment and seriously overstepping his authority. Snow is promoted to Stark's previous position.

Very clever move on the part of Snow, his wife, and his secretary to get a seriously arrogant bully out of his position, and advance the careers of Snow and his secretary!!

What a cunt you are, c24j

You write a diatribe about her boss, assuming he could be involved in all sorts of nefarious activities, when we know, because it is in the Loving Wives section of Literotica, that his cunt wife cheated on him, and that he can't get away from her fast enough.

He has just as good a case for a lawsuit against the secretary for "unintentional infliction of emotional distress" for breaking his confidences and causing him undue stress from his soon-to-be-ex wife harassing him by phone and in person to get her to return to him. Maybe the secretary doesn't have serious money, but maybe she's married and has bought a house with her husband which she can surrender.

But what can you expect from a cunt whose favorite story is about a woman who cheats on her husband on the occasion of their fifth anniversary?

CEO is a pussy, cock sucker and is probably that Snow guy's mentor, hence his actions.

Losers with executive's lack of character, sounds familiar to me having endured that kind of BS as a project manager that makes shit happen and avoided dealing with assholes like the 2 "so-called" men in this scenario. I hope Mrs. Snow got to take hubby for a financial ride with the divorce.

C24J

Yes, all the things you posit as what he MIGHT be guilty of, could constitute a real danger to HIS WIFE.

Did you take two seconds to turn that around? What if HIS WIFE was a danger to HIM? What if, for example, he was the bitch in the relationship and if his emotionally stronger and abusive wife could browbeat and enforce her will on him and this was his desperate attempt to get away? What if he was so emotionally distraught that he was contemplating suicide if he saw her ONE LAST GODDAMN TIME.

And she gleefully handed the wife the keys to the kingdom. If it were some wife getting away from a husband she was avoiding, would you be so resolute in your condemnation? Somehow I think not.

Honestly, I have ZERO problem with the actions of the secretary. If she thought it was for the greater good, God bless her! She should follow her sense of morality.

HOWEVER, just like any do gooder, she better be willing to bear the consequences! She choose sides and it was NOT the side of her boss nor the company.

Company information is company information. Does the company have a right to expect a modicum of loyalty from the people who butter her bread? Somehow she could empathize with the wife, but she IGNORED the emotional devastation in the husband?

Unlike keeping corporate secrets, fixing their marriage was not her job. She was paid no money for it. And if the reaction of the husband is to be inferred, he was NOT a tiny step from reconciliation. If she shows no loyalty to him, why should either he or the boss show any loyalty to her?

I agree 100% with @FD45...That's why I rated this 4*...

I agree 100% with @FD45...That's why I rated this 4*... The PA didn't know the real reasons about the divorce and about his tranfer...She worked for him and not for his wife...Her loyalty was to her boss and her company, not to the wife...It doesn't matter who the guilty one for the divorce was!!! In the eyes of the Company today she had given that information, tomorrow what important information would she be willing to tell to anyone? As @FD45 says: "she better be willing to bear the consequences! She choose sides and it was NOT the side of her boss nor the company...". 4*

Strange

Not really a short story, sort of part of a story. Without inferring all kinds of possibilities, there really isn't much to this other than burning a meddling woman.

Multi faceted flash tale

Amen FD45!

A good story about the importance of trustworthiness and respect.

2*s

You are going to post a story when??

AMerryman

Talented

Nice. When you have talent, you don't need to attempt to conceal its lack in pages of filler like many LIT "authors".

Only A Three

What would have pushed it to a 4 would have been hearing about what happened AFTER she gave the ex the info.

What if when the ex saw the ex-hubby one of them killed the other and/or themselves?

Then the PA could have THAT on her conscience!

If you don't read the author's introduction you won't understand why this was written.

And if you have to read something outside the story to understand what's in the story then, obviously, the story is not a free standing work. So if this story confused you its because the author decided to report what happened without including why it happened, how it happened, or why anyone should care what happened. So while I sympathize with the author's goals I have to agree that the story by itself is confusing and pointless. Unless you are into reading scenario's in HR seminars and discussing what was the proper response to the employee's behavior. OK, all you dweebs who masturbated to this story, please go get a life!

FUNNY NTROPY586

Judging by the posted stories .
Your next one is due about 2019 or 2020. I'm happy to wait,lol.

AMerryman

5 * - short and to the point

FD45 and Impo_61 make some great points in their comments. The one thing I would add and feel that has been over looked so far, is that Carolyn was also a self delusional busybody!

The fact she didn't know why the Snow's separated, is a major factor in this story and shows she and her direct boss were not really friends but just work associates, hence her lack of being told what was going on in the Snow's personal life.

This is silly

She's fired "for cause" because of what she did after she was home from work? For calling a friend "after work"? This could cause Bossman some trouble the first time her next employer gets a bad reference.

The story is ?

What an idiot ! 1
where is the fucking zero??

Wait

I own my co. And if this happened I'd have fired her ass too. When you hire someone your paying for there respect and trust. If your child did something you told them not to do you would punish them enough said .

Liked it

because it was different. made me think.

Opps

The PA was not in the the marriage, she followed her bosses instructions during work, but couldn't let her dream couple die peacefully. After work on her own time lobs a grenade into the not so loving couples life. The PA got what she deserves.

Why was she fired?

She was fired because she was directly ordered by her boss to NOT give any information specifically to his ex wife.

If, for example, she had NOT been given this order, and had called the wife, she would be in a slightly more morally murky place. She is still taking sides.

If he had said "I don't want to talk to her'. She would have been fine legally if she discussed this after work.

HOWEVER, that was not her instructions. Tell her nothing except she was not allowed to transfer his wife's calls. This puts her in violation of her job description. Just because she goes home, she is not allowed to disclose company financials or the new secret formula just because she is 'off the clock'.

And even more importantly...how comfortable do you feel working with someone who is willing to give your personal information out to your enemy? Just because they asked. She was told a secret...and she violated that secret.

Honestly, she was on thin ice when she talked about his phone number. But as soon as she gave away CORPORATE information, i.e. the apartment and the business number)...she was toast.

My opinion.

There is no story here.

'Nuff said!

legal ?

Most companies have a complicated termination process. Short of theft, corporate espionage or physical assault her firing would be questionable. Laying her off because her boss was transferring would be another matter. Also in today'so litigeous world good or bad references are rare. Additionally if Carolyn has any friends or relatives in the legal profession at best the company will be settling a nuisance lawsuit at worst a nasty jury trial with an uncertain outcome.

Poorly researched writing is BAD writing

No, an employer cannot control the personal life of an employee, unless the actions taken in said personal life are unlawful. So an employer can fire you for using illegal drugs outside of your hours of employment, but not for talking to a friend.
Here's a note to all the poor writers who post here - if you're going to write about legal issues, ASK AN ATTORNEY! Or at least do some basic research on the Web. Poorly researched writing is BAD writing!

Wrong catagory

Nothing erotic about this 1* story. Give it up...this story sucks.

I Followed

Everything right up until the part where she was terminated for cause. I think that could be a bit dicey. Probably in the real world, she would have been given an opportunity to resign and references for job performance would have been given...just a bit too vindictive. Plus, she would have been terminated by her boss...Snow.

Good story...just not very real.

dear annony hasb't written a fucking thing here and yet IT thinks It has the ability to tell others how to write

Get a life first asshole of LIT and try writing a story under your name not annony! Eat shit and die you pig old man.

At will states

In at will states an employer can fire an employee for no reason or any reason. As long as the reason is not based on race creed color etc..

WTF

What is the purpose of this story? Please don't write another story, this is 5 minutes of my life I won't get back. I wish Literotica would have a section called " Don't Waste Your Time Stories" this story would fit in perfectly.

Well that set off the legal eagles!

An interesting FICTIONAL story! I think sometimes the commentators forget that this is fiction. Right, wrong or indifferent, it's a story. Not badly written, but I have a couple of points. I do think this was the wrong category (Yeah I know, what's the difference where it's posted?) since there really wasn't anything erotic or sexy in it and the loving wife was really an aside. The second issue I have is the termination issue. Since she gave the information to his wife AFTER hours, she may have cause for a lawsuit against the company. But that would take an attorney, a lawsuit and a Judge. The Company might want to pay her something and promise a good reference just to make her go away. Lawsuits in Court, whether it's in front of a Judge or a jury, can be a dicey affair. You never know what damages a jury might award, especially if her attorney was able to seat a sympathetic jury. The Company could lose a lot of money.
2 stars.

Dear BonnieTaylor2

I haven't seen any story written by you so why don't you take your own advice write a story of your life if you have one or eat the shit you spew out and die, bitch.

nice try asshole but I have stories on here under another name. So you're wrong again!!!

or should I say as usual. All you do is bitch like the fag youa re. And BTW asshole of LIT I gave this a big old 5

Fucking god, bonnie!

Do you fucking LIVE on this site?

Every time I come here the comments page is plastered with your bullshit, every hour, day or night! Go out, get a job, get laid! GET A FUCKING LIFE!

You need serious, professional help!

1*

For bonnietaylor2/vastiesmith2

Wrong Category

This was non-erotic as there was not even a mention of any infidelity, let alone any discussion of any sexual activity. Writers do need to give us a fair chance to read those story categories we choose.

i have a life asshole of LIT. It's my life's work to

help the writers on here against you unfair votes and nasty ass comments. Your raves and rants will be replied to everything I'm on here and se an unfair vote or nasty ass comment. I will help these writers get a decent score asshole of LIT! Every fucking time. So why don't you just shut the fuck up and leave people alone. Report this asshole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well

Written She took it upon herself to look the other way then Expect to be Forgive and Forget because she just knew they belong together. BAH

5 for Bonnie Taylor

go suck a cock dear annnony

Please check first

FYI. If one goes to the Small Buniness Administration website "SBA.gov" The site lists some valid reasons for employees to be terminated. Giving out personal information about an employee such as phone number, address or and even confirming employement (if you are not authorized) is consider a valid reason for termination. Furthermore if one is employed in a right to work state, employment is at will.
FYI the storyteller also says this is a "flash story" and that is just what it is a flash story.

Thanks***

For the story.