Thicker than Blood

I did read all 22 pages of it

There's really nothing new, and the story line is typical Matt Moreau, but I did find this story enjoyable to read (not something I can say about many of his stories).

I'm not surprised at many of the comments posted; but I don't regret the time spent reading this story. Though 16 - 18 pages might have been enough. And I do have an alternate ending that I might one day get around to writing. And even posting if MM permits.

enjoyed it

I knew going in what to expect and that allowed me to read the whole story and not react too strongly about how much of a Pussy the main character is. I actually thought that the brother would end up cheating on Stacy and she would leave him and go back to her original husband but i thought this was a pretty good if not hard to fathom story.

unreadable

the spelling, and, commas,,,, made it impossible to get past the first page

Good story, fuck the spelling etc.

This is a great masturbation story! Eat shit annnony

1*

VOTE 1* FOR EVERY STORY RATED BY THAT TRANNY BITCH FOOL VASTIESMITH2 AKA BONNIETAYLOR2 AKA ANON!

Nicely written

Well written and laid out story with characters that were very easy to dislike. I guess Rozelle would be about the only "good" one but we really know almost nothing about her, we just hear platitudes from her. "Henry" instead of "Ron" was a bit unexpected and doesn't say much for the editing. I still gave it a 5 as I think the story as told is worth it. Man, this author really stirs up emotions in some readers. I guess that's actually a compliment of sorts to the writing, but people wishing death and injury for the way a storyline goes, strikes me as being way beyond the pale. Chill a bit.

Compelling Story

I almost didn't read this one, as MM writes a lot of cuckold and/or RAAC stores AND he tends to torture the hell of out his protagonists. Plus it is long. However, his writing is excellent. Once I got half way into this story I couldn't stop. This one could be turned into a screen play - fabulous writing. I think the low scores are due to (1) bias against MM because of previous stories and (2) the length of this one. Five stars from me.

In terms of plot, was REALLY glad to see David finally end up with a loyal and worthy wife; if ever any character deserved it, he did.

Welcome Back Matt

I am delighted that one of the most prolific authors on this site has chosen to continue posting his work. My admiration is enhanced by the fact that few other Literotica writers have been subjected to more vicious and demeaning criticism ,usually by annoy ours attackers, than MM. By now his style and artistic assumptions are well known. If you don't like his stories DON'T READ THEM. After rising in his defense I must now admit that I don't find Thicker Than Blood to be one of his better works. It reads more as a reworking and expansion of Quinn and Kimberly Harris complete with sexual assault in prison and a dominant elderly character than it does an original work. I also found that the adulterous couple and the daughter so devoid of humanity that it rendered both David's sacrifice and his ultimate willingness to reconcile inexplicable. I certainly hope MM continues to share his talent with the Literotica community but I would urge him to seek editorial input before posting his stories.

So close!

22 pages calls for a stronger end. Still gave it 4*. But the ending was just too weak to give it a 5*. It was compelling right up to the wrap up. He basically just gave up for the sake of his new wife. The exes just never got it. "we love you", "we want you back in the family", "we are sorry for our behavior", even "we are grateful for what you did for all of us" but no real expression of respect. I. Think that is what was missing.

Ummmmm

Half way through it became unreadable. I usually enjoy authors work, but this was toeture. The main character was blind and needed to be fleshed out A LOT more. The wise old aunt wasn't wise at all. And the life of the main character was lead by a treatrous woman and horrible brother. I'll give this work two stars, sorry I really wanted to like this.

Pretty good, but...

Overall your stories are decent work. My one gripe with your writing style is the circular structure of a lot of the dialog. Example: "if it had been a boy we were going to name him Ronald if you want to know; I mean if it'd been a boy" Are you afraid we will forget the subject before the end of the sentence? When you do this in the middle of a character's passionate statements or even more awkward, an actual argument it really detracts from the sentiment being projected.

typical MM

Thicker than Blood=Quinn and Kimberly Harris

Well, I for one am glad to see Matt back and writing again.

I think the story was a trifle formulaic and I'm sure I've seen it before in photo form in other MM stories, but on the other hand, I can't help but like Matt's style.

He speaks in a unique voice and that is to be celebrated. Sure I know that the material won't be to a lot of people's taste, but I'm still grateful he spends the time and effort to try and entertain us.

Don't let these alpha male people drag you down Matt.

The Most Painful Thing...

...about this story and, for that matter, most of your other stories, is that your protagonists do everything they can to add to their own misery. They add insult to injury. David gets $250,000 as a judgement from Ronald, and then throws it away, as he wants "nothing from them". That is just unbelievable, at least to me. I can't imagine a man who makes $30,000 a year throwing away an award over 8 times that. It is hard to root for a man who starts out with a raw deal, (lousy lover, shorter than average, etc.) who then willfully works as hard as he can to needlessly hamper himself even more by throwing away all his money on some useless principle that only he seems to understand. Why not cut his own dick off? That would show 'em!
The guy just comes off as a weak, whiny, self-destructive loser. Instead of rooting for David, you just finally want to say to him, "Ahhh, just kill yourself and get it over with. Be a nice guy and save us the agony of watching you crash and burn over and over."
Not what you want from the "hero" of a story.

stupid

is the most stupid story i never read from matt moreau. please delete the story. is garbage.

Your writing is always good

But I never been able to give you more than 2 Stars.

Your leading characters are always the same, doormats, someone to walk over. Good news is that somehow you outdid yourself this time. This guys has to be the sorriest ever in Literotica.

I am asking for neither ninjas nor black Ops nor violence but just someone with a little self confidence and pride.

Suggestion?

I like your stories except for one little thing: In real life, people cheat due to flaws that would be interesting for you to address: Selfishness, desire for validation, etc. Plus, in general, relationships borne out of cheating almost always fail, yet yours seem to succeed. FWIW, probably nothing from an anonymous person.

You took elements of past themes and stories

And missed a golden opportunity to make the ex feel really bad.
Even taking the story back to the 80s, a better twist would have been for Jenna to actually be David's child after all. All Stacey did was say to Ron he was the daddy. No dna test after all these years? In Loving Wives? Since when?
And not to tell or hammer home to all but especially Jenna that the deceit last their entire marriage was a mistake. How could you miss this in 22 pages of repeating yourself?
I know you prefer to make your hero walk through unmitigated bullshit to kiss a pretty woman's anus, but this could have been shorter and more emotionally hard hitting before taking them back.
Still, I appreciate the tale. If nothing more just to think of what I would have done if I had the talent to write it. And Matt, while We may complain about your taste in whine...but it seems al lot of us keep sipping it because it's free.
Keep writing.

Matt, unless you a complete moron, you know people hate your postings

So, what is it with you mentally that you continue to post crap here? and you spend so much time on it... 22 pages.. I mean that is someone without a life. You obviously have serious sexual identity issues, and you have no social life... bad tv and masterbation every night? It's sad and feels really awkward to read your posts. I can imagine that you're not suicidal? Don't you think you would do better to spend your time getting help or fixing your life? You have a serious problem... just consider the numbers... 5 billion+ people have access to the internet... this site is found 90% of the time when someone looks for fetish, cuckold... out of the thousands that come here, you are the #1 most disliked poster. Doesn't that tell you something? You're the dog shit people want to scrap off their shoe.

so many hate filled anonymous comments.

I found the idea behind the story interesting but somewhat implausible in places. Overall and well written piece albeit a tad long. Certainly not anywhere near as bad as some comments claim. There is a saying "if you don't anything worthwhile to say, say nothing." Perhaps the anonymous hate mailers should take heed. Also, if they hate MM's work so much why do they still read it?

Same old crap

You got me again. I thought there was no way for you to write another pitiful, worthless, contemptible accepting chuckhold story, but you out did yourself.

I'm a sick man for thinking your warped mind could really write a story about a man that finds his balls, but alas, I was wrong. I need to see a therapist to help me shake this insanity in which I find myself.

You need help to discover why you has such little respect for men.

I wish you could vote a negative number of stars. That is what all of your stories deserve.

Couple of Things

1. The animosity some commenters express, and the vile things they say anonymously, have nothing to do with MM and everything to do with their disturbed psyche.
2. No prison guard would respect and marry a former con. Fuck them, moronically help them escape, beat them, sure, but like and respect and honor them, never.
3. Thanks MM, too long and mistaken references to "Dad Henry", but a worthy effort.

Mmm

I saw the comment before and I had to comment.

I worked in a prison for a year (healthcare for the kid until I found a better job. You are never so motivated to find a better job than if you work in a prison)

We had 3 female guards who joined the staff in my batch. In 6 months, two of them were walking around with specific inmates as if they were courting together.

I have not been in a female prison, so I don't know what goes on there.

Just my anecdote

"if they hate MM's work so much why do they still read it?"

You still don't get the whole "wannabe cucked" or closet cuckold thing, do you?

OMG the main character is fucking stupid #Facepalm

I agree with a certain previous commenter he got $250000 from his stepbrother and all of the marital assets during the divorce he had more than enough money too move away for a fresh start but the idiot threw most of it away. Now i understand he stayed a couple of years for the daughter but after a while it was clear that she'd rather be with her bio-dad.

There is absolutely no jury that would put the daughter behind bars seeing what she went through. Her real father could afford the best lawyers to get her out of the mess. No prosecutor if he/she is gunning for a political career(most of them are) is not going to be overly hellbent on prosecuting the girl who is essentially the embodiment of the American dream. She is young, full of life, beautiful, does well in school and comes from a well of family that has the terrible fortune of being drugged and gang-raped. She'll get a completely suspended sentence at most.

I think the anger that most people have is with that gay stuff. Most straight men would probably have death matches then give blowjobs and take it up the ass routinely.

As to my final comment the Main character was just lame. I was really hoping he would kill himself before he crashes and burns of his own actions again and again. I'm not normally for cheating wives but the wife chose well in this case to leave this pathetic man.

Ok story

Who the hell is Henry?

Good read because of the good writing

Always enjoyed your stories even though I never ever would agree to the whole cuckold idea with no payback. The funniest part to me are all these dumbass anons that post how stupid and fucked up the author is.... YOU JUST READ 22 PAGES!!! Who's now the stupid and fucked up one that took all this time to read something they don't like? Turds!!!!

Just.

Too.

Loooong.

silly me

I should eventually learn,
some authors write in different categories, different genre,
some never change
and every story always has the same outcome.

my mistake.

22 pages?

you could have done this in 12

surprise, surprise

22 pages to tell Matt's tired, old story once again. Friend, brother, coworker, dad, or some other facsimile cheated with the man's disrespecting wife. Suddenly the need him for one flimsy reason or other but will not apologize for TOTALLY screwing up his life, even turned his daughter against him. His "loving" aunt betrays him. Matt's solution? Suck it up, boy. Get with the program! You're a loser but we kinda like you as long as you admit it.

That's Matt's story and he's sticking to it.

No matter how much you tried the cheaters never truly felt they had done anything wrong. They may have regretted the manner but not the acts and why most readers won't (me included) forgive them by the end of the story and will give the author a deserved commentary on the eventual reconciliation. Even the daughter and her husband are in agreement. Most disappointed that the Aunt Delia character eventually came around to their thinking as well but I assume for her it was giving up on something that couldn't be altered now. In the end, not a fan of the story. Problems I see with stories this long, one posting or chapter submitted, is that there are pages and pages of constant repitition and rehashing of feelings. There were two moments that stayed with me as good examples of real life interpretations, one being Jenna's suppression of her feelings while David was in prison and the comment that dad's, their time, their love and their feelings are taken for granted, yet, regardless of past situations true dads do what is right for their children without pause.

Honest, I tried...

OMFG. Look, there's a premise in here, there really is. But 22 web pages... really? I had to bail at 11! Talk about flit!!! Worst of all, you abuse your reader SO badly by these short segments that are absolutely impossible to track. She, he, I ....WHO the FFFF? PLEASE help me like you... There is merit in the story but I just can't invest in the work to keep track of what it is you seem to spout. Honest!

1 star

Went from bad to worse. Way to long and the cheaters saw nothing wrong in what they did. Matt your heroes are way to wimpy.

This Was Painful

First, please, if for anything else get a proof reader, editor or little green men from Mars to read this first. How in the name of writing did you come up with HENRY for daddy Ron? Only about 2 paragraphs worth but I just had to say "Who the hell is that"? Then all the missed words and typos towards the end just added to being a painful read!!

Some of this started out a lot like your story "An Unacceptable Situation". Almost thought it was a rewrite with a few substitutions. The Stacey character has absolutely no redeeming value whatsoever. Like the previous mentioned story. And you feel a reconciliation at the end is a good solution? You would have had a better story if you just had David commit suicide. Then write about the overwhelming guilt of the two cheaters and stupid shit daughter.

You normally write well, or used to, sorry Matt, this one was awful.

Interesting

MM,

I see your usual fan club is back in full force. Can't say that I enjoy reading people complain about a 22 page story from an author they wish is dead. Stupidity really doesn't entertain me. Having said this, the story wandered a bit, and you did mess up the names a few time. However, what you do and you do in all of your stories is show how blind and insensitive humans can be. And what makes your story real is that even in the end when all is revealed and they should be so beholding, they still don't understand. The lack of empathy on the part of the cheaters always seems to remain, which in my experience seems to be true in real life. More than any writer here you get that, the daughter starts to see things correctly, her H definitely gets it, but the exW and ex Brother??? Nope and they never will.

Long but nicely done. I'm glad to see you back. 5*

Why did he never do a dna test , you never know

It was okay . . . decent reading

I had the feeling Jenna never really got it. She was spoiled growing up, and someone else always came to the rescue. As I see it . . . Jenna at some point cheats on James. She's spoiled, expects that even if he finds out, it'll be okay . . . it always is for her. That marriage goes downhill.

In her fifties, Stacey finally starts to get it . . . and as her daughter's life worsens, Stacey begins to realize she raised her to be what she is, that Jenna might have led a different and happier life, and been a person of real integrity, if she had been raised by her real father, rather than her egotistical sperm donor.

Ron starts to feel (but hides) resentment at giving up half of his 'kingdom'. Conflicted by guilt and resentment, he increases (his heretofore well-hidden) dalliances. He will eventually be caught cheating again, but Stacey is not as attractive as she once was, and will put up with it rather than face the prospect of being alone. She considers leaving though, as Ron starts to occasionally make snide remarks about his brother . . . mostly to try and ameliorate his growing realization that for all his business acumen, he's not one-tenth the man David is. One night at one of their get-togethers, quite drunk, Ron makes a pass at Roz, who is pushes him away in disgust. He then makes some inane statement about how he deserves something, after all, he gave them half his 'kingdom'.

After that, David returns the dealerships to Ron, and he and Roz start a mechanics shop and a used car dealership with the help of Mariane. They later hire Madeleine, who hasn't settled into any long term successful relationship yet . . . and wishes she'd waited for David. She soon does find a good partner though.

Stacey finally really gets it . . . she starts to understand the actual intent and importance of vows taken when wed. She realizes, way too late, that she will never again be loved like David once loved her . . . that Ron simply isn't capable of that depth of feeling, and that until recently, neither was she. She stays with Ronald . . . sort of a penance . . . but can't help feeling a bit of longing when she sees how David loves Roz. She occasionally has nice dreams of her and David, and oddly enough, two children . . . fraternal twins. In the dreams they are all wonderfully happy . . . then she wakes up to Ronald, who she still loves . . . but not a lot.

Jenna is single, and really messed up. She realizes she blew her marriage because of the type of person she'd become. She gets into counseling and despite having a good career and not needing to, she goes to live with David and Roz and helps out in the shop on weekends. She watches them, and tries to learn as much as she can . . . trying to soak in what she could have learned about honor, integrity, courage, and love if only she'd been raised by her real Dad instead of her Mom and the sperm donor.

One day she writes James a heartfelt apology, with an admonition that he find someone he can truly love, and who will truly love him as he deserves. Two days later he shows up at Dave and Roz's door, ostensibly to say hello, but actually to talk about Jenna. He's surprised when Jenna answers the door. She explains she's living there trying hard to become who she should have been when they first married. Two days later she calls to apologize some more and 'just to talk'. Two weeks later they have a tentative date. Two months later they start seeing each other frequently and talk about moving in together. Two years later, they remarry.

Through all of this the Carters continue to get together occasionally . . . a little dysfunctionally at times, but things gradually improve again.

Oh, and then there's the odd miracle. It shouldn't have happened but somehow, David gets Roz pregnant. Yep! . . . Fraternal twins !!

The plot has too many holes!

What was Ron doing on the nights that he wasn't with Stacy during the fifteen years of David's marriage? Was he playing tiddlywinks by himself? No he was fucking every girl he could get his hands on! So he would be content with Stacy once he married her? No since Ron's first wife divorced him for his cheating! Ron's first wife was better looking than Stacy and also better in bed than Stacy. Ron would continue to be a serial cheater after marrying Stacy.

As for David, any relative who showed any support to Stacy after she cheated on him for fifteen years would be shunned by David. So why did he remain in contact with his aunt? As for the daughter who went along with her mother's suggestion to call David her uncle, she was as bad as her mother.

@c24j

Nice ideas! That´s how it should have ended. Only Roz´ pregnancy was a little too much.

As Usual...

Well you've written another" Very" good story. Congrats Matt Moreau. Hadn't seen anything new from you for quite awhile, and then, here you are with your usual high standard of story. Thank you.

Quinn and Kimberly Harris on steroids !

Ok , I'll admit it , I've read most of Matt Moreau's stories. Why ,one may ask, when I simply despise stories of similar content by other authors, well that is the perplexing question isn't it !
Commentators in the LW genre, as a rule, get to hate authors who use the same plot points over and over , I.E. StangStar has a style of writing that seems to make a lot of his characters have similar traits, JPB , ditto . I happen to love both of these authors and am of the opinion that just because something isn't totally original ( what truly is anymore ) does not make it inferior! Hell I once read that there are only something like 24 ( may be off a little ) basic plot lines in all of literature. With all that said , why did I subject myself to 22 pages of this ?
This was simply a mish mash of Quinn and Kimberly Harris and Millie and Jake , literally almost verbatim ! This author is better than this ! It almost makes me think that this work was done by a ghost writer . MM's stories are never this long , and other than the usual male being shorter than his wife , less well endowed than her lover themes that are the usual fare in 97 % of his stories , he has never before plagiarized himself to the length he did in this case !
So back to the original question I began with , why have I read nearly all of MM's works ? In the same way that great old ad campaign for Tootsie pops said it , The world may never know ! 2*'s
Cpprcrk

Wow

I can't figure why you didn't write him suiciding.
They certainly tried to kill him.
No way in real life a guy could forgive all that damage.

One Glaring Omission

I found it surprising that neither David nor his attorney requested a DNA test. Stacey may have been fucking Ronald, but she hadn't cut David off so Jenna could just as easily have been his. Any lawyer specializing in family law would have picked up on this immediately. Why take Stacey's word when she had obviously lied for their entire marriage.
Also, if David was being protected by the Jesus freaks why would he have been subjected to a brutal gang rape?
Other than those two points and the Henry thing I found the story intriguing. If I didn't know better I would have thought that some of these readers were forced at gunpoint to read it. I usually check a story length after reading page 1 and then decide if it's worth my time. Parts of this story may have been implausible, but it is fiction and the author has the right to do it as he deems appropriate.

For 60 years I have read nothing but technical books as I was a mechanic & mechanic teacher for 42 years. This book is fascinating, tearful, believeable glad that it's the first one that have enjoyed. Kudos to you. MG

With so much trashy writing nowadays it's refreshing to read this. Hooray for the author. MG

Davids failing

David failed Jenna miserably when she came to him for help, just gave one of the three abusers a hiding and then left her to their mercy? instead of protecting her as she obviosly wanted.

A masterpiece, a tour de force of Lit Loving Wives submissions

I in general hate Matt Moreau's( English?) humor re cuckolding and infidelity, and avoid his stories. I typically skim them, to see if I need to actually read the tale. This grabbed me from the first, but when I got to the end of page one, and saw the story was 22 pages long, I gave up.

But for some reason, the next day I was drawn back(prob because today's submissions are a bit ordinary) and got sucked into the vortex that is this story.

All the bases are covered, the who, what, where and why's, in some depth. The story is timeless in that it speaks to the trans formative power of sacrifice,forgiveness and mercy; a father's love for his daughter; and why pride is one of the seven deadly sins,

I cant say enough about this story, I am sure the MM haters (of which I was a social member) will not score this high enough to make the top rated list, but by any measure this is great writing.

This is why I read LW, cause occasionally a nugget like this will be found. Well done Matt Moreau, hope you can find a way to create another one. Will be most difficult to match, or really even come close.

I wanted to append my prior comment. As I indicated, solid writing, too long, some over used elements that weren't needed (like the organ donation to show how heroic he is.. Again). Still better than most of the very stilted writing on here that has no ambiguity either way.

What bothers me is the whole situation tied to walking Jenna down the aisle. They now know he went to jail for years to protect her, he walked away from the first wedding St the thought of jointly escorting her down the aisle, they spend all this time searching for him so he can escorts her and try to show him some gratitude. He comes back and then Stacey and Ronald and Jenna begrudge him walking her down the aisle aline and think he'll accept doing it with Ronald. First, after all the years and all the family denied him, this one thing they still begrudge? And after searching so long and putting off her wedding a year, Jenna would take even a small chance of driving him away? It's an example of unnecessarily overdoing it with how selfish everyone else is. It just makes no sense. The story would have still been strong and more tight without it and the following organ donation.

What a coincidence!

In between new stories I read Loving Wives alphabetically.

The last story I read before this was Quinn and Kimberley Harris. For about 50 pages it's the same story. (felt like 50 pages anyway). And then it diverted into the 'taking the rap for the murder' story, also a repeat.

It's a cut and paste job with names changed. Also long and intensely repetitive.

I feel I deserve a medal for having reached the end.

MM, this time you have insulted your readers. Shame on you!

reboot

Yes, this is a reboot of Quinn and Kimberly Harris, with elements of many other stories (notably Love Sacrifice). I said that in one of the first comments.

But its a better version, though too long.

We get the wife's perspective;
The post divorce relationship is much more normal - they communicate. Even if he resents, he doesn't disappear instantly;
The daughter's behavior is more real. She doesn't miss the very first visitation; She likes the richer household better, and shows it, but tries to be with her father. This is very real in divorce.
He goes to jail for something that is honorable rather than stupid;
The elderly aunt tries to have it be good on all sides. This is also realistic. While wed all like to think of our friends and relatives choosing sides and shunning the undeserving, thats not how it works;
He didn't humiliate himself by asking the ex-wife for sex;
The reason he eventually runs is not an immediate hurt, but a series of them and after he endured great hardship to save his daughter;
We avoid the suicide by the brother which never made sense.

No, this version was more realistic (which is not to say completely realistic) and allowed a study of the deepest betrayal. How does a simple guy who loves and trusts his wife; loves and trusts his brother; loves and trusts his daughter, find out all at once that none of it was true. And then seeing how those who destroyed a man interact with that man. I thought this was a good story and not just a repeat. He made it better and more interesting. He surely could have edited it down to be considerably shorter, but all in all this was a very worthy return for MM.