I Wanted to Have a Baby

Skipped the story after the intro

Based on your description, I probably wouldn't have cared for it. I did wish to address your comments in an opposing manner.

First, there was never a war, per se, involving this category and it's readers/authors. I would classify what happened as a crusade. The difference being that, in a war, there are two or more parties fighting for a goal. In a crusade, there is usually a singular party or smaller group that is looking to enforce their beliefs upon a larger group. It is your feeling that this category is broken and that it needs your hand in fixing it. That really isn't the case; this category has existed and functioned long before you graced it with your presence. Logic would tell us that it will continue to function after you have moved on.

As far as the comments you have received, I can guarantee that many of them have been influenced directly by your provocation. Your story intros, for the most part, beg for readers to galvanize for or against you. You continually tossed out comments that were antagonizing. Then you wondered why everyone disliked you, you claimed there were people targetting you with hatred, anonymous or other, and you then decided to police LW stories for content. What did you expect?

Finally, you continually try to say that the reason why your stories are not going well is because we all hate you. Signe, we don't hate you, barring some anon trolls. I know that I have rated at least a couple of your stories well, but I only do so if the story deserves it. Some of your submissions do not deserve high ratings, though. You can almost tell which ones are going to tank because you see a multi paragraph intro ranting about something. If you would simply write to write and not try every single time to sway us to your views, you would quickly find things aren't that bad.

*Addendum

I went back and read the story while I was coming up with this comment. Honestly, it wasn't that bad and I don't even care for this type of tale. What it suffered from is the same chronic issue that I have when I write. It was short and more of an outline of the events. It needs to be fleshed out, we need to get more of a sense of the characters. Trust me, I have a hell of a time with that myself. You can work on it, like I am on the current things I am working on at the moment. Unfortunately it has led to me cross writing on multiple stories at once, but better that then not getting out a good end product.

Honestly?

Who the hell cares about some perceived war? Sometimes the comments are better than the stories.

As for this story... Good God.

@ mordbrand and Shared Signe

@ mordbrand

I have to disagree with you. There is a war, even if it is an insipid one. There are two sides trying to fight for control of this genre. Stories like the ones this author writes are the ones under attack. These stories get met with hatred simply because of their content. They get told that they are in the wrong category, even though they are following the description to a T. It seems like the fans of consequence stories are the ones crusading to make this genre ONLY that. These new authors walk into this hornets nest and get attacked from the first story on. You may not participate in that war, but to deny that there is an attack on wife sharing stories is naïve and blind.

@ Shared Signe

It was very pompous of you to think that you were going to Joan of Arc your way into this and solve this issue. It existed before you got here, and it will exist long after the vile, hateful commenters run you out of here. Here is a well known fact about war. War makes money. Look at the comments and the views that LW gets compared to the other genres. All of the hate and discontent has made the webmasters very rich. Trying to get them to side with you was another bad move. They may agree with you, but they aren't going to stop it. They have stated to others that they didn't intend this category to be a consequence only one. But they aren't going to run these stories out of here simply because you get hate mail. All of that breeds more views, which equals a higher payday on the advertisements that actually pay the rent. They aren't going to step in until those views start dropping.

@ everyone else

These stories aren't going anywhere. All of you guys crying for the webmasters to split the category up are wasting your time. You aren't going to get their attention by continually one bombing these stories and leaving hate mail. As long as you create views, they aren't going to care. If you want to get their attention, stop clicking on the stories. Only that will register this story as unpopular. Have you ever wondered why Xleglover stays on the most popular list, even though many people dislike his stories? He has so many stories that he is always getting views. Even if it is just to leave a hate message.

That's my take on it. Good luck Signe.

I was gang-raped on my first couple stories by comments

You are absolutely disgusting to equate harsh criticisms and troll slams to the most vile and atrocious crime--short of murder--a person can experience. You want people to love your writing--take some classes and become a better writer (focus on grammar and comma-usage). You want people to love you--show some common decency and empathy,or stop writing your inflammatory personal introductions. You want to end the so-called war, stop provoking others by pretending to be superior to everyone else.

I haven't been part of the so-called category 'war'

And I couldn't care less about whether various types of Loving Wife stories are or are not included in the LW category. I just read the stories and the comments that interest me. (More the comments than the stories lately, I must admit.)

But I am very interested in the beliefs authors express in their stories. For example, Signe says in this story "It's well documented that it's possible for someone to love two people at the same time."

It is? I haven't seen the 'documentation'. I have difficulty in believing that a person can have a full romantic loving commitment to more than one person. Sure, I love my children, and I love some of my friends very dearly. But the love I have for my husband is on a totally different level. I'm 'in love' with him.

If I had a sexual relationship with another man, I cannot see that it could become a loving relationship on the same level as the marital relationship. If it did, I can't see how the marital relationship could survive.

It would appear that Signe sees it differently. I would be interested for her to explain further.

Lue

I just can't

Accept your view of a loving husband and wife... I am sorry to be a downer, but a relationship like you propose makes me glad I am in the overwhelming majority of men who might be able to get past a real mistake, you don't advocate that you advocate mutual disrespect of fidelity.

I have to agree with @Lex1...

I have to agree with @Lex1: in a war there are no winners...Everybody loses...Who win in a war? The arms dealers and people like them who make money on other people suffering...The only way for this war in LW to end is each one trying to comment without NEVER insult the writers or the readers. The writers have the right to write what they like and the readers the right to comment the stories and characters in the stories...Anything beyond this is a irrelevant and a lost of time...

Okay, I read the story.

I am confused about what the term "erotic" means to this writer. We have a couple that can't get pregnant, so they have the husband tested and not the wife. Hubby is shooting blanks. She takes a lover and still doesn't get pregnant, so that guy is tested. (Do we see a pattern here? Someone isn't getting the job done and it must be the men) He tests fine so they finally do what any intelligent couple would have done at the beginning. She gets tested and is the reason for no kids. The good news is that her many lovers will not be knocking her up. There was some sex in the story, but it really wasn't a particularly erotic story. That's my honest opinion. It does belong in this category. There is another story out today about a guy and his girlfriend, according to the brief teaser, in Loving Wives. That one passed the LW test, but True Lies 1&2 did not. Go figure

About this story...

About this story: It´s a story in the line of all other @SharedSigne's stories...I can agree that we can love more than one person, but what is almost impossible is to "be in love" with more than one person...That's why the female character in the story would not ever considered to divorce her husband...And the reason why the lover wanted that she should choose between him and her husband...I don't think it was because he wanted a child, but because he was "in love" with her...To end I must say that I also liked very much the movie: "When Harry met Sally" and still remember well that scene in the restaurant...I liked Meg Ryan I...I don't know if I will like Meg Ryan II (after the plastic surgery).

Sorry.....

I just can't relate to the attitudes and behaviour of the individuals within the story, so I'm afraid it doesn't work for me at an erotic or any other level. That said, thanks for your efforts and the willingness to put your story out there.

Looking at the comments, I'm hopeful

I think we can coexist. I particularly like impo's comment about not insulting each other anymore and yes I agree impo, I think Meg Ryan had a bad plastic surgeon. Actually I think most plastic surgeon's are bad. It's not nice to mess with Mother Nature.

My Take

I'm not going to lie. Due to the threads in the bulletin board and hearing things about stories being moved from one category to another, or breaking up the category into two separate divisions, and with you (SharedSigne) being a huge proponent of one side of the argument, I was going to give you a shot. I've never read your stuff before, so I felt compelled to read your story.

Unfortunately, I had to get through your litany before I even got to your story. That turned me off. I also noticed that you didn't have voting turned on, which is your choice; however, it gives the perception that you're afraid of the outcome. And maybe rightfully so, there could be backlash. You throw gasoline on a fire, there will be consequences. I get upset with people who want to claim "Freedom of Speech" and promote the 1st Amendment, but then Heaven forbid that someone disagree with them. These same people wanting their freedoms will then do everything in their power to silence those that oppose them. It's like they're really saying "Freedom of Speech as long as you believe the same things that I do".

So no, I didn't read your story. And judging by the comments, I probably would not have liked it. But you know what? That's ok. Now, I write exclusively to Loving Wives because of the melodrama that comes with a "loving" wife. There is a lot of pain and a lot of emotion. There's a fine line between love and hate, and betrayal is a quick way to push one from one side to the other. I write for the sake of emotion. I tend to write a "consequences" story -- usually BTB or revenge by living a better life without the person who betrayed the "hero" (even if he's a loser).

As for the comments that I have gotten, some will say that my stories aren't heavy handed enough. Some will say that my MC is a wimp and needs to "man up". Other people will attack the wife in the story - like she's a real person. I welcome all comments, really. There will be those that blast me or my stories. I've been called a pathetic writer, a Saint Wimp, and one of my more emotional stories (The Death of a Cuckold) has been labeled by one commenter as lacking emotion or that it reads like high school geography or something stupid. And I'm pretty sure that I have had Harry in VA chime in with his vitriol -- hating the story not because it was written poorly, but because the antagonist (in this case, the "loving" wife) did what an antagonist was supposed to do - was a complete bitch. I'm not going to silence them, though. The stories are meant to elicit a response.

In the end, though, I write for me. I write stories that I think are great snippets into a moment of time for a relationship, and how things can go horribly wrong. Some have told me they're too short. There was enough character development to become fully invested in the character. And I welcome the negative comments -- it can help my improve my ability to write. The ones that are meant to be hurtful with no constructive value -- then let it slide. I'm not going to stop writing because some people can't say anything nice. The trolls are going to live on the Internet. You can't stop it. You can delete the comments if you so choose. You can ignore the vitriol. But in the end, write for you. If others like your stories, then you know who your audience is. Write for those that want to hear what you have to say.

Peace out.

Azpiri

I think you need to stop the inflammatory introductions.

Other than that, the story was OK, but I agree with other readers who feel the story needed to be fleshed out.

Truce?

I'm sorry. I can't control all the trolls out there, for you to make peace with me contingent on the behavior of someone that I can't control is asinine!

I suggest you start by suppressing Anonymous comments, since that's where most of the trolls are. Then, if someone with an ID is abusive, it is easy to report them to the moderators.

Then, maintain your promise to leave us alone! Speaking only for myself, my interaction with you began with your accusation of misogyny at the writers and fans of BTB. Not to re-hash to whole argument, but it is NOT anti-anything to want to punish a member of whatever group when that person does wrong!

@Lex1 Re: mordbrand

I couldn't disagree with you more!

I admit I may have missed some comments, but while Signe WAS the victim of (usually) Anonymous flames, the category war was definitely (IMHO) started by Signe, and for my own part, I simply expressed the opinion that if ANYONE was going to move (NOT that ANYONE should!), it should be Signe, since she writes Cuckold stories, and cuckoldry is a fetish, and therefore belongs in Fetish.

waste of time

As soon as I noticed you were the author I knew I should not have proceeded. I made it through your self serving intro and went no further. Basically you have nothing to offer. I rate this as a 2 because it at least has paragraphs from what I can tell.

To Signe

I can appreciate your passion and enthusiasm for this site, but IMHO it is misplaced. I'm sorry to say it's a waste of time to try to reason with many of the people who visit this site -- or, at least, this section of the site.

They don't come here to read erotic stories about married couples who have fun extramarital sex without any negative consequences. They come here to relive the pain of their own failed marriages over and over and over again, and to find a fictitious surrogate for their wives or ex-wives that they can vicariously beat to death.

They are miserable, angry, bitter old men with massive chips on their shoulders, looking for a way to reclaim their masculinity through anonymous online playground taunting.

There may be an erotic website where sexually adventurous people can freely share their fun and sexy adventures with other like-minded people, but this ain't it.

Case in point: a new author just submitted his first story about sharing his wife with other men. It was well-written, fun, and erotic. That story has received 29 comments. Three of them (including two by you and I) were positive and supportive. The other 26 were of the "kill yourself you faggy chuckold" variety.

You may think this is something new, but this site has been like this since I discovered it. I remember submitting my first story and scratching my head over the comments I received. It's truly mind-boggling why so many angry men would visit an erotic website to read stories about divorce, revenge, and murder. Yet, they do.

It reads like a real life story, but I didn't find it terribly erotic, probably because it was written in a rather documentary style. That said, the only way to rid yourself of flaming trolls is to disable anonymous comments. Most of the people who identify with a handle are more or less fair minded. The Internet has unleashed the inner beast of some people who would never dare say similar things to your face. Actually you have to feel sorry for them if you even want to bother thinking about why they spew their venom online.

"Erotic"

What is erotic about divorce, revenge, and murder?

How about all the authors who write stories about divorce, revenge, and murder move their stories to Non-Erotic where they belong?

And around and around it goes.

I would like to thank you

I read your first couple of stories and found they were not my cup of tea. I did not comment on them because to each his own. However I did enjoy the comments afterward and I have been checking them regularly. I also pay particular attention when your name is mentioned by other writers. As an example Vandemonium1's response to one of your comments contained references to other writers on LW and a couple I had never seen. That was a welcome diversion to the rare quality stories currently on LW so I thank you for indirectly leading me to some other quality writers.

@swingerjoe Re; Strawmen

"They come here to relive the pain of their own failed marriages over and over and over again, and to find a fictitious surrogate for their wives or ex-wives that they can vicariously beat to death."

As I said in an earlier comment I have been happily married to the same woman for 42 years, and have no desire to beat her to death, vicariously or otherwise!

I happen to enjoy many types of stories, not all of them BTB by any means, but I DO believe in consequences for cheating, and NOT necessarily wives. I have mentioned before BlackrandI1958's "Couple's Date Night", where the HUSBAND gets burned!

Once again repeating myself, my all-time favorite stories are oshaw's "Grief", qhml1's "Did You Really Mean It?", laptopwriter's "Continental Divide" and Slirpuff's "Think of Laura", not a BTB in the bunch!

The armistice was pointless. The sad truth is that you are the one that misunderstands....

...the nature of this forum. You also have not accepted that other's opinions about what is erotic, sexy, fun, or enjoyable has any validity at all. So it was not a test, but an attempt at manipulation. Of course it failed.
I have no issue with your story, but honestly didn't find it very erotic. Not because the topic isn't erotic, but because the presentation was passionless and wooden. It all seemed too mechanical and "news report-ery" for a story that is supposed to sexually excite.
Again, I have no problem with the notion of polyamory, where everyone agrees and is kept informed. My experience is that they don't. As I said in an eraser comment to another similar story, this is highly idealized and not reflective of most such experiences, except in that it didn't last. No arrangement where married couples swap, cohabitate, share, try to create a " new kind of family" ever exhibits the kind of stability that most people treasure. I did not say boring, I said "stability", as in enduring, lasting, long term happy, or any other hopeful descriptions you care to apply.
That you, SS, have managed to stay married to the same man for a considerable amount of time (if it is so), are remarkable and the exception to the larger reality.
That you have done so in an environment of agreed and agreeable, willful and near continuous adultery, is nothing short of astounding. But if that is what you want out of life, then by all means, be happy in it.
But it is silly and naive on your part to think that most people will feel that same way. And in the space of high angst audience, I would suggest your agenda will be poorly served.
I do not agree that every negative comment comes from some old geezer reliving his own failed marriage, but that many here (including that portion of the audience just noted), have issues with what to them is betrayal. And since so many of the stories deal with willful, hurtful, intensional betrayal of binding vows and the attendant expectations, they may be as justified in their angst as you in your indignation.
The mistake, is that you responded reactively and baited them....then let it escalate. How did that work out for you?
To quote a movie line I like, "Take a new tack, Emma!"
Many have rightfully stated that this particular forum is one of the harshest of its kind anywhere. Writers must develop thick skins quickly, or suffer deeply for their art. No contributor here gets all positive responses. Every contributor gets foul retorts. Why should you be any different?
You have a much better chance at finding a welcoming audience for your particular flavor of lifestyle elsewhere. But if you accept that other lifestyles and even more traditional lifestyles are every bit as valid and acceptable as yours, you will have put your feet on the road to peace of mind about the differences. Continue to evangelize your approach and denigrate anyone that objects, it will likely be a long, stressful and even painful ride.
Either way, good luck. I hope you find your way to equanimity.

@swingerjoe Re: "Erotic"

While I may agree with you that in general there is nothing erotic about "divorce, revenge and murder", many of these stories have sex scenes that ARE erotic, why should they have to move because the overall plot offends you?

And again, while I don't believe that ANYONE should have to move, if anyone moves it should be the cuck stories to Fetish, since cuckoldry IS a Fetish!

Sbrooks

What makes you think I was referring to you? :-)

Not all BTB fans are angry old men. Hell, I enjoy a BTB tale if it's well told. But the fact remains that ALL of the people who leave angry comments on non-BTB stories are BTB fans. If we could somehow eliminate all BTB fans from Literotica, this would be an anger-free, fun, and erotic site.

re: swingerjoe

We all know you have an agenda. Get off your high horse kick about the old men who love murder, divorce and revenge. Where the hell did you get that stupid concept anyway? Why don't you explain to us what's so erotic of watching another guy fuck the shit out of your wife and then you lap up his cum afterwards. That's a sick fetish, not erotic. Your fixation on your idea of erotica doesn't necessarily ring a bell with many who read here. As to this author, she asked for the trashing and she is getting it. You don't piss off readers and expect them to treat you like a queen. Retaliation is usually swift and fierce. Who elected her to be the judge and jury of Loving Wives? I've been reading on this site for over fifteen years and the only difference between then and now is that the crusaders have multiplied.

Re. "Fetish"

I've seen this comment made constantly: "cuckoldry is a fetish! All cuckold stories should be moved to fetish!"

Anal sex is a fetish. Should all stories in the anal sex category be moved to fetish?

Incest is a fetish. Exhibitionism and voyeurism are fetishes. Interracial and mature sex can be fetishes. See where I'm going with this?

I've yet to read a story about divorce, revenge, and murder that is remotely erotic in nature. Unless you get off on those types of stories, why on earth would you consider them erotic? Why insist those stories belong in a section called "Loving Wives?" What is "loving" about a cheating wife who ends up dead, divorced, and/or humiliated? What is erotic about that? What does any of that have to do with extramarital fun, swinging, or sharing? Why does the BTB crowd insist that "and more" includes non-erotic themes about divorce, revenge, and murder?

funny

You are trying to call a truce to a war you started. Whether you post as swingerjoe, frontlinecaster,or shared singe your intention has always been to inflame the btb readers. Your flc persona has never hidden its animosity for non cuck stories going as far as to get several removed. The sj personal while the most reasonable is also the biggest tragedy. Sj can write a decent story but chooses not to. You have conditions? Do you realize that I'd you just wrote your little strokers and ignored everything else99% of the strife would disappear? The jibes between the two factions make any lw story entertaining. I read comments religiously because of the entertainment value. I know most people say shit here that they'd never say in real life. I'm posting anonymous to avoid the influx of bullshit to my email, but rest assured this "btb" writer has several redH's.

Dontemt You Get it swingerjoe

You are in the minority.Got it? Last time I checked the majority tends to set the standard.I have no problem with wife sharing and even cuckold as long as the humiliation is kept to a minimum .Give up the ghost dude. BTB is here to stay and no matter how much you swing at windmills it's not going to change. Your just a broken record with outdated idea of what this site should be.I know it's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it but after the 200th time of expounding it WTF?

To anon re. swingerjoe

Whether or not YOU think a man sharing his wife with another man is erotic, the fact remains that SOME people do find this erotic.

Now, please tell me if ANYONE thinks divorce, revenge, and murder is erotic. Anyone? One single person? If so, then those stories fit just fine in this section. If not, why shouldn't they be moved to Non-Erotic? What, exactly, is the argument against that? I've yet to hear it.

swingerjoe

You kep bringing up murder as if the majority of stories contain this.They don't swinger and you know it. Are there stories with murder yes but not as often as there are stories with some poor shlub sucking his wife's lover scum out of her while continuing to humiliate him.Tell me joe Who thinks that is erotic? You know as well as I do there are far more of these type stories than there are murder /death stories.Why Joe tell me why?

@swingerjoe

Anal and incest are fetishes, you are 100% correct there. They also have their own hubs. Cuckolding is a bdsm subset. Humiliation is Dom/sub play, therefore it is a fetish. I do firmly believe that many authors stick those here because no one reads fetish. The wife sharing shit is lw material, as are the cheating dramas, whether the cheating results in divorce, reconciliation, or whatever. You seem to be hung up on murder. Notice the murder stories get a lower score than a creative burn.

@singe, I personally don't hate you, no matter how distasteful your stories might be. I do think you, if that pic in your bio is you, are fucking hot.

@swingerjoe Re: "Fetish"

First of all, all those flavors of stories have their own categories, so where to put them is moot.

BlackrandI1958 writes some stories where the focus is incest, and that's where she puts them, she doesn't try to force them into LW.

And to SOME degree fetish is in the eye of the beholder. A story where during a sex session a couple happens to engage in anal sex doesn't make it an "anal sex" story, IMHO, while if that is the primary focus (a matter of opinion, I admit), then it is.

Just like in LW, if a wife cheats on her husband TECHNICALLY making him a cuckold, it isn't a "cuckold" story if he refuses to accept it.

And back to the original point, if there was no Anal category, and there was a story where the primary focus was anal, then yes, it should be in Fetish.

@Saxon_Hart, Thanks, looks like we're on the same page.

re:dmhack

Agree with you there. Often the comments are much better than the story they're intended for. Always did say that reading the comments at times is actually fun, where else can one get such a chuckle. You can pick out the readers with an agenda, like picking apples off a tree. You can also pick out the ones that stick together like fleas on a dog.lol In the back of my mind, always wondered how I could turn the comments into an actual story of sorts. Haven't come up with the "how to" yet, but working on it. (signed ML)
P.S. For those in the US-Happy 4th Plenty of fireworks in the air, even on a porn site.

re: swingerjoe

If this site bothered you from day one, why are you still here? Find that elusive site where everybody can fuck each other and have fun. But admit it, you like bantering with the old men who like fucking with the likes of you. They know how to get to you, and you take the bait every time. Easiest fish they ever caught. Three cheers for the old men. LMAO at some of the comments. Seriously, some of you need to get off this site and enjoy real life for a while. This place is getting you down. SharedSigne you need to get out and get laid by some strangers. You'll feel better in the morning. Oh, wait you're already doing that. lol Not laughing at you, but with you. Cheers.

Sbrooks

I hate to break it to you, but cuckold stories have their own category, too, and it's called Loving Wives! I can see how stories involving humiliation end up in LW. What I can't understand is how divorce/revenge/murder stories ever ended up landing here in the first place. Is it solely because a wife is involved?

(And yes, many of these stories do involve murder. Vandy just posted one this week, as a matter of fact.)

I'd still like someone to answer my question: what is erotic about divorce, revenge, or murder? If a story ONLY involves one of those elements and is not erotic in any way, please explain why it belongs here.

By the way, I'm guilty of this myself. I just posted a non-erotic story to LW last week. I can tell you why I did it: because LW Is the most read hub on this site, and generates the most feedback. I simply followed the lead of the BTB authors. If non-erotic stories were placed in the proper category, I suspect the Non-Erotic category could generate more readership than LW.

This debate is as old as this site, and nothing ever gets resolved. That's why my very first post to Signe was that she's fighting a losing battle. BTB, cuck, RAAC, and humiliation stories will all continue to be posted here, and their readers will never stop arguing about it.

It would be nice if readers could be a little more polite, civilized, and appreciative of the free entertainment authors provide. Unfortunately, for reasons that will forever escape me, this site attracts many people with anger issues who are here to deal with those issues instead of going to therapy. As long as there are authors who keep feeding that beast by penning the same stories over and over, they'll keep coming here. If those stories were moved to Non-Erotic, maybe -- maybe -- those readers would leave LW alone. I doubt it, though.

Value, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder

I like the rants, even the ones directed at me. I mentally compare them to eleven year olds doing "your momma is so ugly that..." It's cheap entertainment at its' best. But I agree, it is getting a little repetitive. What I really like are the longer comments, usually concise and well written, where the writer dissects and discusses the good points and the failures of the story. And I would remind everyone yet again, this is a free site. You know within a few paragraphs if you're going to like what you're reading. At that point, I just switch to another story.

And I get accused of posting in the wrong category constantly, so often in fact, I made it the title of one of my stories. And your story was pretty good, although I think you should flesh your characters out a little more, make them a little more identifiable with the readers. It seems to me she gave up a little easily on the child idea. There are alternatives, she could have had her lover's sperm and donor eggs implanted, for example. You could even have had a subplot where the egg came from her husbands' lover. That would have been a nice twist, raising a child that was biologically their lovers'. Maybe it would have bonded them closer.

Q

Interesting story

I can tell you led, or still lead an interesting life. I can also tell you are devoted to your husband John. Lifestyles are just that, meant to be enjoyed. I really envy you to have found a life partner, and a husband that actually cares for you!

Anon - What is BTB?

BTB should mean "Burn The Bitch" - or "Burn The Bastard" depending on the offender.

Which is fine when she is a bitch and deserves it she gets burnt.Same goes for him.

UNFORTUNATELY the crusaders have it all twisted around. They call ANY story that has CONSEQUENCES in it a BTB story, which most of them are not. Just because it isn't a RAAC (Reconciliation At All Costs), or a slut/whore/wimp/cuck story, it has to be BTB.

swingerjoe....

You bitch and whine about the paint by numbers btb stories all being the same in comments that are all the same. You defend a minority fetish that is a subset of another minority fetish. Your opinion is that cheating stories with consequences aren't lw yet they are less minority fetish than your beloved humiliation tales and fem Dom shit. Sj you are as guilty of beating a dead horse as anyone else. Consequence stories and humiliation fetish stories will have to coexist no matter how much we all argue about it.

@saxon-hart

Dude, not only do I think that erotic stories that involve cheating with consequences belong in LW, but I've WRITTEN many of those types of stories! What you're doing is projecting.

Not only do I "bitch" about repetitive BTB stories, but I also "bitch" about repetitive cuck stories. Again, you're projecting. Or you're confusing me with someone else.

(Oh, and I also don't enjoy stories about humiliation or make cum-slurping, but I'm sure people will continue to tell me what I like and don't like.)

I hate it break it to you all, but wife-sharing isn't a "minority fetish." In fact, it's one of the top sexual fantasies for married men. Just look at how many stories are posted here on that topic. Or visit your favorite porn site and do a search on "cuckold." You'll find thousands of videos of real married men sharing their real wives. It's crazy what you can learn when you step outside of your cocoon!

Out of 51 comments only two contain extremely foul language

Thank you all for being polite! I found 96% of the comments on this story to be thought provoking at least. Most of them were intended to be helpful. Even the few who only wanted to insult me I didn't mind as much because the language used was not so disgusting as it has been in the past. May the past be bygones now. I promise not to taunt the "Consequences" authors in my prologues or in comments on their stories from henceforth. I promise not to report "Consequences" stories for being non-erotic anymore. I think we CAN coexist in peace, well at least a truce, or at least a cease fire. I also want to say I admire the writing skills of many of the "Consequences" authors. Having both genres in Loving Wives is what makes so many readers visit Loving Wives and I bet many of them cross over between the two genres. So the war is over as far as I'm concerned. Oh and I've turned on voting again. I wanted to see how my peace offer was taken before I did so. I don't take the scores to heart.

Just one more question. Many encourage me to turn off anonymous comments. As far as I know (because I tried it briefly), that only keeps them from coming to my email. They can still post comments as anonymous to my stories. Am I wrong? Because it's the comments on the stories I think of as part of the war. It wasn't until recently that I got such comments in email and found them lots easier to ignore. Anonymous comments on my stories and negative but non-filthy comments from actual users won't cause me to go back on the warpath. I wanted to hear intelligent comments from real UserIDs in response to my peace offer and I did and I'm happy with all the comments posted on this story. Thank you all so very much;.

Too bad

Too bad the rating system isnt in place. One star for cheating.

Swinger Joe

You can claim whatever you'd like, but fetish is by definition not the norm. It's an obsession. The majority of married people do not partake in wife sharing. Fantasy can actually just be just fantasy. Not everybody's inner thoughts are projected in reality. To sit here and try to tell people that the vast majority of men are into wife sharing is laughable. Just because porn sites exist for it doesn't mean that the majority are doing it or even want to do it. Maybe the peoplease who watch cuckold porn are wishing they were the bull.

actually joe sweetheart baby it's not in the top 15

you need to broaden your reading and quit believing the gang down at the swing club. You made the assertion. Prove it.

Have a lovely day.

Just a personal opinion

I believe a number of us read stories in this section because of their emotional content. Most of us have invested time in loving relationships, formed bonds with others, maybe been hurt or damaged, maybe lived in harmony for many years. We may not share the same ideas on love and relationships, but are capable of comprehending motivations outside of our own. For me the strongest writing in this section comes from those who can express these emotional elements recognisably. Swingerjoe has a perfectly valid point about the non-erotic nature of a lot of stories in this section, but I feel the section has grown into something beyond mere eroticism to embrace wider aspects of the human condition, and the emotive nature of relationships. I feel the site is a richer place for the broad scope of writing this section contains. The trolling is hurtful, but an endemic factor in any internet communication, and I hope all authors can find a way to treat it with the distain it deserves if there is no way to block or delete it. I feel the bulk of the readership appreciate the contributions of all of the authors, whether they share that particular 'kink' or not. Yes there are hurt souls on the site looking for vindication for their feelings of betrayal, and may find vicarious pleasure in a btb tale, however no single commenter's opinion should detract from the validity of all contributions. Perhaps the readership figures are a better indicator than a few wayward comments or scoring. It's should be a source of pride that stories can generate so much literate comment and still arouse emotional responses. I hope that a few contributors to this thread can find time to contribute stories, and thank all those who regularly do.
As for Signe's story, I think you are getting stronger as a writer, but do tend to rush through to a conclusion. This theme, probably one of the most traumatic for any woman, deserves the whole emotional impact if it is to resonate with the readership, it's so much more powerful than just a 'stroke story'.
Ta very much for your time.

"Sweetheart?"

Oh, foolscap. I didn't know you cared for me that way! I'm blushing.

No, you're right. Married men hardly ever fantasize about sharing their wives. It is a true rarity. The tens of thousands of stories posted here with that theme must all be posted by the same author. The hundreds of thousands of stories of wife-sharing posted on other story sites and blogs are an anomaly. So are all the books on Amazon, the wife-sharing videos on porn sites, and the millions of people on swinging sites. What a "minority", eh?

If you really want an enlightening experience, sign up for a trial membership to one of the countless number of swinging sites and do a search on your hometown. You would be shocked and appalled how many of your friends and neighbors not only fantasize about sharing their wives with other men, bit actually DO it.

Signe, thanks for allowing me to address my fan club in your comments section. It's very gracious of you. As for anonymous comments, I believe there is an option within the story section itself that allows you to turn off that feature.

Re. your story, it just doesn't fit my particular "fetish", so I didn't leave a comment about it (until now.) As always, you write well, but I always seem to feel as if I don't know any of the characters. They're just names on a page. It helps to feel a connection to the characters, and to do that, you need to tell us something about them beside what they look like. Use dialog to give them a voice, but make those voices realistic.

Again, thanks for contributing and for allowing me to get my two cents in. Glad the LW war is over on your part.

Bad story

Forget about the war that's all in your head, this is just a terrible story.

Admirable sentiment SharedSigne

Not sure it's doable here, but admirable. I suspect if you turned off anonymous posting it would remove a majority of the really nasty comments.

@SwingerJoe
I'm curious.......
How does one actually insult someone who gets off on cuckoldry & humiliation? My personal theory is they get off on the abuse of the btb crowd and that's why they keep coming back. The abusive crowd are actually unwittingly providing what the abused crave and thus they will never ever leave. Lol! It's a closed self fulfilling loop. The haters get to hate and the abused get the humiliation they crave. Seems to be working very well!

To anon

I doubt that someone into humiliation would be humiliated by an anonymous online taunt. I'm just guessing, though, as I'm not into that kink. I only read LW stories, for the most part, but once a story veers off into humiliation I generally quit reading it.

Didn't read the story but..

Agree with your opening statement.

I despise cuck stories so generally avoid them.

Once in a while I accidentally read one but try to be objective about the writing.

I think cuck or sharing stories could be MUCH better. While I detest sharing, I can enjoy good writing and constructive criticism of writing and character development could go a lot further than personal insults.

I have insulted before but only when a villain was portrayed as the sympathetic character or rape was glorified and/or dismissed as a negligible act.