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Sorry
good story maybe, but once you got into the church bit, then i lost interest. Pity maybe. That's perhaps one of the differences between the good old USA and the rest of the world.
otherwise ---- Not bad at all;
Uh, well yes and no . . .
The comments are about what I expected - a tossup for me to decide which were written by real fems and FullyEffminizedMales or F.E.M.s as I call them. Very nearly 100% of the stories in this category are written by fems and usually most comments are written by other fems. I tend to agree with one comment that fems should work harder to write from a male perspective and not attempt to understand how a male's brain works cause they always fail whilst the opposite is not true. Fems are simple minded as their behavior reflects their thoughts always, ranging from simple selfishness to the extreme self-centeredness. Once a male learns that fact he becomes a real MAN not a F.E.M. . . .
this is endosing female cheeting i know it happend to myself, you say jerry could not forgive and work on his marrage let me say i tried more than once but she didnt want to know, after we parted she would turn up every where i went with a different guy e
Author too focused on making a point rather than telling story
This was far too preachy to enjoy and that has nothing to do with the church. The church part was stupid as well. She was excommunicated and then she was welcomed back in. For what? I agree with other comments that she was unrepentant. She certainly didn't change her behavior with Jerry. She was on a vacation that was supposed to repair their relationship and it wasn't going well. Lynnette's response - hook up with another guy. Jerry is right, she is a slut. Frankly that was obvious and the attempt to reconcile with her was a waste of time.
Then the author preaches to the reader about forgiveness. What crap. We are NOT required to forgive people that hurt us to move on. Jerry's problem wasn't that he couldn't forgive her. It was that he was grievously injured and he couldn't set that aside. Many people have problems like that. Some women who are raped can't stand to be around men. Some people who have been in a bad car accident can't get back into a car. It has nothing to do with forgiveness. It's the personal ability to let go of a traumatic situation. Jerry's continued bitterness is his own problem and that is tragic but it's not a life lesson any more than anyone else with a mental illness is to us. Being stuck to a traumatic situation that has ended is a mental illness.
As for Lynette, she was not the one that was hurt. She's upset that her marriage ended but she is the one that destroyed it. So she has the capability to shed her guilt and move on. That's nice for her but not exactly a virtue. "Yup, I did it and I forgive myself." Very convienient. Supposedly her new husband and her will "fix" any problems that come up. Really? So he's OK if she screws around on him? That's not fixing anything. That's just a different view of a marriage. OK for some. Definitely not OK for others. The author preaching about it is insulting. There is no lesson to be learned from Lynette. She knew her behavior with Jerry was NOT OK and she did it anyway and tried to lie her way out of it. She is now with a guy that will what? Accept her screwing around? What great improvement has Lynette made. None as far as I can see. Why would the church accept her back without change?
I have absolutely no problems with stories of redemption as long as they make sense. There needs to be remorse. There needs to be self examination. There needs to be real change. I also expect the culprit to pay a cost in accordance with their bad behavior. For example, a woman who has a one off spontaneous hookup can suffer lightly. A woman who has a affair but is working very hard to shield her husband suffers more. Lastly, an arrogant woman who is insulting her husband, cutting him off, etc. pays big time.
Supposedly this is a "real life" story so it is being reported, not made up. OK. But then the author gets preachy in trying to justify the outcome. The conclusions the author draws and attempts to foist on the reader are stupid and insulting.
Just so you know...
"allot" = to assign (as with portions or responsibility)
"a lot" = very much; plenty
Interesting story, but the grammatical errors really detracted from the overall effect. Sadly, if I cannot suspend my disbelief - which, really, is the whole point of fiction: to put the reader in a carefully-crafted setting where "reality" can be ignored for as long as the story runs - then I cannot fully enjoy what you spent so much time crafting.
If you're not already doing so, I'd highly recommend looking into using an Editor; Literotica offers that service and from what I've seen, it's quite helpful.
I have never seen . . .
so much psychobabble in one story before. Quit watching Slopra Whineyfree and Dr Pill and try again . . .
Just a mindless prattle by an ultra feminist.
Pompous and self serving. It could have been a good story,if the premises were different. (Perhaps different writer?)
Well deserved 1* !
I gave it a 5 because of the writing style
but what it all comes down to is there is no difference. There are just a many man hating women as there are women hating men. It human nature to want payback. She was a slut no matter how you write it. Most females act as if they never make mistakes. We all do but it's how we handle it is where the difference is. A woman will go out get fucked, maybe get pregnant and the don't understand why he is divorcing her. They are quick to point out "till death do use part". But they forgot "for saking all other". And it's the same for a man, keep it in your pants should be part of your vows also.
But the thing that we all forget is, it doesn't matter "why". It should have never happened. We get caught up in how we feel. And when we fuck up, we want them to understand. But they don't have to because they didn't do it. I read "no one won". He cheated and confessed and she made his life hell, then after a DNA test was done, it showed that she cheated and lied before they got married. The child belonged to her ex. That story also shows how people are. When he cheated on her she turn in to a Bitch. But when it came out about the child, then it's let me explain.
In the end were all flawed and shouldn't live in glass houses.
Not bad for a soapbox tale...
...at the end of the day though, such a tale won't really change any minds. Why not? Because people like stories with morals, but when those stories have too self-righteous a tone, it can be off-putting. This story has too much editorial opinion woven in by the author to be really appealing. As a final bit of advice, please be careful with your word selection and grammar. More than once you chose a word that was inappropriate for the message you're trying to convey. i.e. principal vs. principle, alott vs a lot, etc.
A BAD HABIT TO BE A CONTINOUS SLUT
unable to shuffle slutiness and happiness. TK U MLJ LV NV
the only problem with this cuck tale
is the length; edit this to 800 words and it would be good to go: the endless blathering turned a potentially good story for wannabe cucks to stroke to into a mind-numbing painful melodrama.
She was still a cheating bitch
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Great story, but
I respectfully request permission to argue with you a little. Ok. They were both immature when they married. They failed to communicate on some important areas. Does that justify, or even explain, her actions? I'm not Jewish but I read the writings of a Rabbi that I highly respect. He says that marriage is primarily based on duty. Duty is one of the highest expressions of love and, indeed, over time it fosters greater love. She pledged her loyalty to him "for better or for worse." He wasn't the best husband. Did that give her the right to go goof off and eventually give herself to another man? Did she ever suggest counseling or that they do something to improve their communication? If so you left that out. Then it all happens. She lustfully tells the paramour that he is better than Jerry, and Jerry hears it all. How long did she try after Jerry heard those devestating words? Contrary to your analysis, Jerry did try. But she blamed him because he couldn't get the images out of his mind to a sufficient degree as to make love to her. How long did she try? She apparently expected it to happen fairly fast and it didn't. Did she stay with him for better or worse? Nope. She went downstairs and almost immediately started in with another man while her husband, who she knew was suffering, was upstairs. She first emotionally leans on the stranger and then lets him do things that she had promised only to her husband. Then Jerry leaves. Was it over then? Perhaps but she really didn't try too hard to see, did she? Given the extreme nature of the hurt and pain that her behavior caused, could she not have tried to prove herself to him by staying on the straight and narrow for a few months or even a few years and then go to him and try to at least say that she was sorry after his pain had died enough for him to listen. I think that she owed him a very high duty to make amends. You are right about the shallow, ignorant guys that want to hang every woman that strays. But when a woman does to a man (or vice versa) what Lynn did to Jerry -- even if we can find something that makes her conduct less than cold and calculating, as we can here -- I believe that she should make extraordinary efforts to make amends. She didn't. He couldn't perform, she gave up. I agree with so much of what you write and I love your thoughts and analysis regarding such things as learning from the good and the bad, along with your other ideas. They have helped me in my thinking and I truly appreciate your sharing them and I very much hope that you will continue to do so. Also, I hope that my argument does not overwhelm this expression of appreciation and encouragement. As to your post script, I would think that it is a good idea.
weak
you write like a woman telling men how they are wrong and are at fault for being human,u dont blame the victim of a soul rape for not seeing it coming while u are sitting in your house.
Thw author's bias is showing quite clearly
If this is a true story (and we only have your statement that it is), why do you make Jeff one dimensional after the divorce (not being able to forgive his slut wife) ?
Your long winded narrative at the end nearly endlessly brags about how the slut wife turned finding a wonderful husband (please show me a real wonderful husband) who is wealthy so they can buy a procedure to allow her to get pregnant. Seems that the new awesome husband has solved all the things wrong with her life including her all her adulterous activity and the gangbang with the colllege students after her divorc and of course Saint Ted absolves her of her sins. How many men would do that ?
She was never completely honest with Jeff about her ongoing affair but she easily lied many times about the affair. Just a tad difficult to believe she really changed.
typical 21st cent female
Blame the victim, rape she must have done something, cheating mans fault for not being perfect, authors a woman does it make it wrong no,but just tilted in her favor, women 99.9% cant comprehend the shit an average guy goes through and what cheating does to a decent man, men dont talk much we do things and when things are done to us it is devastating- cheating is equal to hurting our baby- why did i do wrong , why couldn't i stop it, the guilty must pay.
Great read
I am a male and I see the authors points in this story.the marriage went south problely both there faults. She cheat and he never recovered.they could not reconcile.but all those male calling for her head,they are stuck in a sick place.life goes on. Why all those negative comments from those women haters. Seeing women as sluts and whores but when men cheat what are they called. Definitely a double standard.
Interesting
You are very judgmental and sexist in your views (at least admittedly so). I think you are under the false illusion that the husband must forgive to find happiness and completeness. Although you are right that forgivness can help, there are some things for some people that are unforgivable (like murder to the survivor and cheating to the husband or wife who survived their spouse cheating and killing their marriage). Please know that I do not hold a double standard and unlike your pontificating that their is no comparable standard for a cheating husband as their is a wife...that is your opionion and not those of others (at least not me or my friends). The end is weak and unacceptable not because it is a woman, but because it is unrealistic with human nature. Hopefully you can be more credible in your writing in the future (and less a rabid, man hating feminist).
Author is an angry sick person
Loving Wives brings out the freaks and this idiot is probably up there. The self loathing and angry judgmentalism is pretty pathetic. I assume this author may still not be alive
Horrible story!
Terrible plot and no redeming qualities at all! Sad very sad and the ultimate put down I can give you is I am sorry I ever wasted my time reading this trash!
Amazing
How far this author will go to justify female cheating and to make husbands look bad. Apparently judging from the ratings there is an audience for this type of misandry.
1*
your comment "I'm particularly interested in the woman's point of view" is because you are a female, and your male bashing writing screams it= LESBO!!! Feminist!!! and its the guy that never communicates = White chick! crutch (women never listen, men communicate all the time).
My goodness
Generally speaking, stories that drive readers apeshit are well written. So I gave it a 5.
That's not because I think any if the characters are admirable.
If not for...
If not for the final comments, this was a good story...I agree that everybody has the right to be happy. But making the husband the bad guy, who didn't understand her needs, like the second husband, is what made the comments ruin all the story...She knew how she was since her early days, so she should have chosen an husband that understand her, and above all she SHOULD come clear with the husband before cheating on him. That was her mistake...all was her mistake. Good that she finally found a good husband that accepted her way, but she would be for ever responsable for making her first an unhappy man...ALL HER FAULT!!!
Just another Dumb slut
Well now the writer wants everyone to forgive being a slut. The man self destroyed himself. Lynette was a slut and every dick would do. I cannot help but believe the writer herself was helping or facilitating Lynette's cheating and is making excuses that all whores do when they are caught. Oh well at least Lynette mad it ok. I do hope the author does not
Men have a double standard taught to them
When a women strays she is a whore. When a man cheats he is a stud, so men have to be superior . In Arab countries a women is stoned beatin killed or worse just because there women. Okay this story the marriage was over but jerry coulnot move on . Living in his shell . A life well lived is the best way to move on.
Double Take
The writer was Lynette. The slut. all the Excuses at the end prove it
Church
In my simple opinion biggest mistake was the influence of there church. If not for that perhaps Jerry might have been able to forgive her and they might have had a chance.
Jerry was no saint
He observes all these things, and could have influenced her going across the line before, but all he did was stay silent and passive and have things "happen to him". He did well with beating up Brian and telling Brian's wife and all, but the fact that Lynnette faced her demons is a point in her favor.
Please...Get this shit off here
It's stinking up the remainder of LIT
Just a fact...
Just a fact: "She met another man, one of the best men I know right now...And a man that is more committed to the core items that make a relationship survive and work well..."...This means that her new husband accepts and close his eyes to her cheating around with different men...that was what Jerry didn't do...1*
Meh
Not much to say about this writer. Overly verbose cheater apologist...
1*
cuck shit.
Liked it
Having been a "Jerry" I found this mostly belivable except for a couple of issues..Did the church not offer counseling.. did they not seek marriage or sex addiction counseling. I did it didn't save my marriage or resolve any hurt feelings but I moved on.. I met my X like 10 years post divorce hadn't seen her in that long. she was still amazing to look at. I felt that warmth again I invited her to my room thought we'd have a romp. She reluctantly just stayed in her spot standing.
I took that as a refusal to join me an only felt .nothing . It was the final period on our relationship.
Good for Lynn, moving on. Alas, Jerry was a stuffed pepper....
...but, neither seemed capable of wholeheartedly committing to the other. And after the damage was done by Lynn's rather stupid and self destructive activities, only a far more honest and capable man would have stayed with her. Call it what you will, but men's egos are pretty tender things, once damaged that deeply (for Lynn struck at the core of him, in the one place he could not defend) are nearly always unrecoverable. They carry on......eventually, but are forever changed.
But more disturbing to me, was the apparent notion you have that we have a right and are entitled in life to happiness.
Sorry, but that is patently wrong. Even the constitution says "the pursuit of happiness". It is something built and earned, never was or will be owed, guaranteed, entitled, endowed or promised. It is our job to make it, find it and maintain it, if we can bear it.
You may think me jaded, but I'm not. I'm honest as I know how to be and, at least in this, am not as self deluded as I might be.
Oh, and you tend to annoy with your misuse of "lose" and "loose"
If you accomplish nothing else, you will have become a better human being and writer if you work this out. It glares at us to distraction.
How did you lose your keys?
As I lost my excess accumulated weight, my clothes became quite loose.
I won't trouble you about the other half dozen or so issues in the writing, as they are currently too trivial to worry about. Some could even be categorized as style choices. So, good writing, except for the perceptual concern and the one glaring usage issue.
Keep writing, it would be a shame to waste the talent, even if I weren't intrigued by your stories.
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