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by Anonymous

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by tazz31710/17/16

OUR SEEMS A MISNOMER

more like he or me. TK U MLJ LV NV

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by Twentyseven10/17/16

To the Swingers

Might I gently suggest this particular story is not likely to persuade anyone to your viewpoint.

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by luedon10/17/16

Of course not, TwentySeven

Have you ever seen anybody persuaded to an alternative viewpoint on these commentaries?

There are more fixed opinions here than you would find frozen into an iceberg. And that includes me.

I don't say the things I put in comments in the hope that somebody like Sugna or Foolscap will agree with me. I do it to annoy them.

And I'm pretty sure they don't expect that what they say will have any hope of persuading me either.

But it's fun for all of us..

Lue

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by Anonymous10/17/16

I liked the story and I would never allow my wife to fuck anyone else, I'm just to jealous and couldn't handle it but each his own. They did it the right way if there is a right way. They paid for a no strings attached one shot deal . Most stories have a friend , coworker or neighbor which would only cause a divorce down the road. If the wife then pays for one for her husband down the road than that's even better. They let each other get that experience or a new partner with no strings but there still could be a problem if the spouse can't get pasted how much better the new person was and now feels the need to cheat down the road to be satisfied. I also don't think he was a cuck because he allowed it and was involved in all the rules and could've stopped it anytime. The only thing I thought was that he was gonna get involved but he didn't other wise it was good

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by sbrooks103x10/17/16

Category Wars

Oy, I had promised myself to not get involved with this shit storm again, but it's like driving past a bad accident, and you just HAVE to look!

First, while I DO have certain amount of sympathy with the "Swinger" fans who don't want "Consequences" stories here, but unfortunately there is nowhere else to go! If Lit would give us a "Cheating and Consequences" category, I would happily go there!

However, there IS another category for the cuckold stories, it is "Fetish"! Because as much as they might want to portray their kink as somehow "normal", cuckoldry is a fetish!

And I'm sorry Joe, but "Hot Wife" is just a fancy name for cuckold! It doesn't matter that the husband is willing and/or isn't humiliated, he is still a cuckold.

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by swingerjoe10/17/16

@ sbrooks

Why not get involved? It's fun!

I have no problem with "consequences" stories in the LW category. My only beef with those stories is they tend to be monotonous and incredibly boring and predictable. If a story is unique and interesting, I say so. If a story is boring and repetitious, I say so. It doesn't matter to me what "type" of story it is. Yet, when I make a negative comment on a "cuck" story, no one says a word about it. And when I leave a negative comment on a BTB tale, all Hell breaks loose. I wonder why that is!

It's silly to move sharing/swapping/swinging tales to some other category when LW is specifically designated for those stories. The word "fetish" is overused, just as the word "cuck" has been rendered meaningless by its overuse. (It's even being used in politics now.)

If a story's central premise is the humiliation of the husband, then the story might fit better into Fetish. If a story's central premise is divorce, revenge, or murder, then the story would fit better in Non-Erotic (unless you think there is something erotic about divorce, revenge, or murder.) Regardless, thanks to the "and more" clause, ALL stories involving a wife (or, according to the site mods, a girlfriend) seem to be included here. I gave up the category battle a long time ago.

As for "hot wife", it's actually one word: "hotwife." And it is a real thing that real people actually really do. Just do a Google search and see how many hits you get. Does it belong here? Well, it would seem to fall under the "sharing" clause, wouldn't it?

Again, it's perfectly fine if you don't like stories about healthy, happy adults having consensual, fun, erotic, casual, nonmonogamous sex. But if that's the case, what the hell are you doing here? And if that's the case, you don't have to leave a nasty comment. You can just click that "back" button and move on. I don't see the point in the idiotic rude comments.

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by foolscap10/17/16

"I do it to annoy them."

Which is the definition of an internet troll. I always assumed that lue lived under a bridge and has a terrible fear of goats, gruff of otherwise.

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by Anonymous10/17/16

You said it, foolscap

That's exactly why any smart writer would delete all the comments they make. It's all about pushing their agenda "Cheating is fun and healthy. It'll cure your asthma, too." They try to hijack the comments section and make it about them, they they get all the attention they so desperately want. Deleting their comments makes their blood boil. No one would notice them at all if they didn't make stupid comments all the time. They should be grateful. Joe would have more time to swing, Luedon might find more husbands to fuck and frontlinecaster could get some therapy.

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by swingerjoe10/17/16

Literally never...

...has anyone ever said "cheating is fun and healthy."

I absolutely love the strawman arguments in this section! Clearly, the anonies can't address the actual points that people make, so they just make shit up.

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by Anonymous10/17/16

"Making shit up."

Would that be anything like you making up that loving wives is the most popular category, Swingerjoe? You're so fucking stupid you don't even check before making shit up.

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by swingerjoe10/17/16

@ Making shit up

Aww. Is that the "Anony Who Doesn't Know What the Word Lie Means" guy again? It must be a pain in the ass having to reset your IP every time you make a comment!

I had assumed LW was the most popular category based on many factors. When called out on it, I checked, and discovered that Incest (disgustingly enough) appears to be more popular. So I corrected myself.

You see, AWDKWWLM, this is what we call being an adult and owning up to your mistakes. You should give it a try! (Are you the same anony who claims that 95% of all swinging marriages end in divorce? If so, you may want to start there and recheck those numbers.)

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by Anonymous10/17/16

shit

you know your story is shit when faggots like swingerjoe is trying to suck your dick by lying that the story is good.

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by slowhand33510/18/16

Didn't expect this reaction

Wow. I didn't expect to create such a shit storm over a simple story. For those readers who were professional enough to give me direct feedback I thank you and appreciate the candor. For the rest of you who chose to rant on the topic and category please rant somewhere else. This isn't the place.

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by sbrooks103x10/18/16

Boilerplate

Some critics (you know who you are, SJ!) put down consequences stories as "boilerplate."

Well,the same can be said about your type of story!

Wife decides their sex life is boring, and goes on the prowl,maybe tells her husband first, maybe not, certainly gives him no choice.

Wife finds lover or lovers who give her THE. BEST. SEX. EVER!

Wife comes home, tells hubby and tells him she is going to continue,maybe even bring lovers home, again gives him no choice.

Wimp hubby either slinks off somewhere, gets hard and jerks off or aids wife and lovers.

There, fill in the blanks and you have a Hotwife story!

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by Anonymous10/18/16

@Sbrooks

You forgot a few things. Husband has to be chubby and losing his hair while wife is smoking hot, lover has a huge dick (preferably black), cock cage, cream pie, talking smack about his lack of prowess in bed, how humiliated he feels, etc, etc. Plug in any or all elements with those you mentioned and you have the perfect "hotwife" story, or Swingerjoe story. Sort of like a country song.

Swingerjoe is a poser. Some of the best and most original authors on here are the ones he hates the most. Take an author that writes BTB, RAAC, Poly, and stuff that just doesn't fit any mold and does top shelf writing. He ought to be their biggest fan, if what he says is true, right? No, that's the one he hates the most. Just a poser.

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by sbrooks103x10/18/16

@Anonymous Re: Boilerplate

I hear ya, I was just trying to give the basics, like SJ does with Consequences stories.

He ignores various flavors, just like I chose to ignore that some cuck stories have abusive bulls and humiliation and some don't etc.

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by foolscap10/18/16

Comments can be boilerplate as well...

like this one from SJ to another story

"...and yet, the angry anonies do! "OMG THE MARRIAGE IS NOW DOOMED!" A penis entered a vagina, which everyone knows nullifies the marriage! Divorce! STD's! Shame and ridicule from friends and family! What about the children?! Will someone please think of the children!

Settle down, anonies. It's just a story.

This story could use a little more tension. Some hesitation on the part of ANY of the three characters would have added a bit of realism. Even a perverted hounddog like me wouldn't fuck a married woman in the same bed as her husband without his permission, yet Steve dives right in. Granted, he was drunk, but still...

This isn't intended to be great literature. It's a stroke story. As a stroke story, it's solid. Thanks for contributing."

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by kimi199010/18/16

@Foolscap

Well, yes, of course, comments can be boilerplate. "Fag cuck shit," "-2 because," "Helena Montana," "Anony is a fat old ugly fag," "Policywonk is..." are pretty old and tired. Then there's the "This was paint-by-the-numbers. Murder, BTB crowd, clique, read my essay to see how all your neighbors are happy swingers..." ad infinitum. Every story where cheating isn't fulfilling and wonderful is going to get that comment. Or, "Releasing inhibitions, fun sex, if only they had been dismembered the BTB crowd would have loved it, divorce," ad nauseum. The slutty stories all get that comment. Two stock comments, regurgitated over and over. But that's fresh, insightful and makes awesome cool arguments, even if proven spurious and fabricated..

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by swingerjoe10/18/16

Boilerplate

@ sbrooks, as I've written many times, "cuck" stories can be as "boilerplate" as BTB stories. Is this one of them? Pretty much. If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the comments and read my original comment, you'll see that I didn't particularly care for this story.

Re. "boilerplate comments", let's add "You're writing a story on the worldwide web. No one believes it's a real story." I've seen Kimi leave that comment repeatedly, both with her username and as an anony. There are hundreds of other examples, and we can trade them all day. The fact is that we all leave some of the same comments, because it often bears repeating.

(I don't know what point foolscap was trying to make by reprinting my comment from another story. Have I made that same comment more than once?)

To the author, if you expected "professional" commentary from this amateur porn site, you really need to lower your expectations!

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by swingerjoe10/18/16

One more thing

It's interesting that sbrooks' boilerplate template for "cuck" stories doesn't need fit this particular story.

"Wife decides their sex life is boring, and goes on the prowl,maybe tells her husband first, maybe not, certainly gives him no choice"

Well, in this story, the couple has a satisfying sex life, and it is hubby's idea to spice things up.

"Wife comes home, tells hubby and tells him she is going to continue,maybe even bring lovers home, again gives him no choice."

Well, no. In this story, the husband is with the wife. She doesn't tell him anything like that. It was just a fun experience and nothing more.

"Wimp hubby either slinks off somewhere, gets hard and jerks off or aids wife and lovers."

Again, not in this story. In fact, it may now be hubby's turn to have a threesome with two women.

I mean...did you even read this story?

Now, find me a BTB tale that doesn't follow the template I constructed in "Save the Cat?! No, Burn the Bitch!"

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by kimi199010/18/16

No, sorry

I've never made an anonymous comment. What, I'm shy? I probably have made that comment more than once. I should not have done it. It was boring and repetitive. I'll try to do better.

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by foolscap10/18/16

Probably not verbatim but conceptually, far more than once

Most comments are pretty repetitious when it comes down to it. The strawman here is to imply that it has to be word for word to be boilerplate. Not so.

I may be alone in this but I find the same themes in most of SJ's comments as well as in my own. I think that charge of "boilerplate" is pretty meaningless when you get down to it.

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by screwher10/19/16

Thank you. Exactly what I'm looking for in a story when I frequent this section. A married woman having sex with a man who not her husband. With her husbands approval. Simple and effective.

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by dissmiss10/19/16

A bit short....

A good story but could have been drawn out a little bit more.
I would have liked to have heard more of the husband and wifes ' pillow talk ' concerning the idea and possible consquencies of bringing their fantasy to life.
Using a male escort solves the dilemma of who should do the deed whilst not risking any awkward social situations later on by having involved friends or aquantancies. Can't see the wife being overly enthusiastic about a threesome with another woman, especially if presumably the other woman being a female escort.
But this is fiction, and an enjoyable read, anything can happen ..... 4* .... thanks for sharing.

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