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Similar to the last story
I really liked this one. See, same theme and an even better result. Thanks for writing.
Recycling the retreads
Are you trying to become JPB? Stealing his lines and plots? Come on, man. Is that all you've got? Just ridiculous.
Well done.
The result of that situation worked itself out about as good as it could. I salute you for not making him a cuckold to his wife's fucking around or his daughter's emotional blackmail and threats. If you believe one distinct way and your kids end up believing another that adamantly you have no relationship with them and any connection will shrivel and die. Sad about the loss of a relationship with the granddaughter but there wasn't anything he could have done about that. Not staying in any contact with his former family was the only way he could have any peace. So, again, good job. I tried to give it 6 stars but the rating line just kept reverting to 5. Oh well.
Good but quick
You usually have more details when it comes to the after divorce stuff. But I guess when it's a flashback story it doesn't really need
I liked the idea, but the details are absurd. Contractors aren't kept in theater that long.
He had better options than the last Henry...
Because he only had one grown-up daughter he didn't have to worry about who would raise. But he made the right choice. Just get out and move on. Don't waste time, energy or emotion that you could be using to build your new life on revenge. Just get out and move on. Don't risk potential legal consequences by breaking laws. Just get out and move on. If it hurts to think about the wife, child and grandchild you're walking away from, just think about what you'd do if an airplane crashed on your house. You'd grieve and then move on. So just consider them dead, get out and move on. It's the only choice that is really all yours, so make it and get on with making your new life.
Reads in the key of A ( testosterone supplemented Matt Moreau]
This is going to be very popular and it should be. No dig at MM , he broke the mold for brazen , unapologetic wives pushing an extramarital agenda and backed up by turncoat daughter. BigGuy33 is refining the formula for maximum stomach roiling when narrator discovers betrayal on multiple fronts and then shifts into resolute, proactive mode.
One quibble is that I was in the Navy on aircraft carrier which took extended tours. Every married man knew after a few months watching his wedlocked brethren get Dear John letters that their marriage was a roll of the dice. Don't ask, don't tell was an attitude many ( although not all ) adopted. The point is no matter how good of a marriage you thought you had, extended absences did no one any favors.
This narrator never doubted for a second his wife's fidelity during extended overseas time out. That was very romantic, but naive of him . The groans and moans, after mail call ,of my shipmates definitely disabused me of that quaint notion.
Other then that bit of literary lint picking , I enjoyed the story. The characters ' popped ' into consciousness. The narrator didn't feel the need to crow over the folly of wife and daughter. In terms of life being s battle, he got knocked down , shook himself , took a ten count, got up and proceeded to win on a decision. It might get better than that, but I don't know how.
Full marks. * * * * *
Damn, doggie boy
Your stupid fucking comment was longer than the story. Put a sock in it! Not much of a story. Just more of the same old same old. I gave it a three, just because it wasn't some freaky shit. It sure wasn't very good.
STUPID. ... beyond stupid
BIGGUY
It's really shocking that at this point you don't understand why people think you're forced reconciliations to quickly. I guess it means you're kind of an idiot...
Part of the problem is that while you stories are very well written some of the dialogue is irrational and makes no sense. In this story after the husband comes back from a extended stay hotel.... to pack up his stuff he has one final conversation with his wife
In that scene the wife's replies to his statements don't seem to match. I don't know if you're going for trying to show how the wife was detached from reality or had serious mental issues. But it makes a story really hard to read. And it's quite frustrating..
Thanks***
For sharing/
Still Harry(inVa) after all these years
He's always shocked by authors idiocy and ( insert full caps ) stupididity' . . Harry is so shocked ,he will refuse to quit reading these allegedly incompetent authors so they can realize how bad they are. I give him credit for this much . He doesn't lurk like the gibbering anons. That shred of integrity SHOCKS me
Cardboard Characters
Cardboard characters behaving as if they'd overdosed on sedatives and only showed emotion because the script said they should. Surreal and unbelievable plot.
GREAT STORY!
I would have loved to see a confrontation with his ex Fran! But I still loved it! Thanks for sharing this with us! Love you all! GREG. OH 100 % OF READING ENJOYMENT BYE.
wow talk about two women full of themselves thinking with their cunts
Karen committed suicide, that's the only way to describe it, while Fran committed emotional suicide. One has to realize the world would have been better off without either one of them.
Touched
This story touched on an important aspect of this genre that is mostly ignore. Honor. While it was not dealt with directly, it was there. He behaved honorably, he did his job and remained faithful. His wife dishonored herself and her family. She then had to pay the consequences for her dishonor. Her husband and daughter were casualties of her actions. Now, years later she is alone with her dishonor and her legacy. What is amazing to me is how western culture has become so corrupt that most people do not understand the concept of honor. Committing sins, unethical acts and crimes is NOT okay. Even if no one else punishes you, you have condemned yourself.
Now this is what's been lacking in LW for a while now
A real story with depth , angst , and some spine !
So , I guess a lot of folks who visit this thinks that he should have given in and then the three of them should have just jumped in bed and rutted like a bunch of monkeys !
That's the common refrain heard here , right ? This is an erotic site , right ?
To them , I say go read Lush , or .Asst , or one of the other simple stroke story sites .
To me , there's a REASON that the LIT is in front of Erotica in the name of this site. If all you want to do is pull on your little Pudd , then go watch some porn. Hell , this site even has some links to it.
This is the kind of story that hooked me to start with. It has drama , and in the end it has a sense of justice , or in this case , a sense of morality .
Now granted , this will never make the LW Hall of Fame , but so what. It feeds a vastly underfed audience . And before the " Purists " log in , let me say this , Yes this is a kind of training ground for amateur authors learning to hone their skills . But , this site exists because of BOTH authors and readers. Would it kill you folks to throw a starving dog a bone occasionally ? If the readers leave , then the site will eventually leave . Think about that as you look down your noses at us " unwashed masses " as some A- Hole called the audience here recently .
I want to thank the author for sharing this wonderful yarn with us.
5 *'s
Nothing Personal
You know what would be really nice? It would be really nice if someone, anyone, could publish a story where none of the characters talked like an idiot.
Does this really happen?
Does this really happen or is this strictly fiction? Yeah, I get it, it's just a story, but seems there are so many stories involving wife's thinking it is acceptable to do this kind of stuff. So is there something I'm missing?
Or am I too sheltered, happy to live in my own world with birds, butterflies, kids that show respect and faithful wives?
What's in the water these days? Bad mushrooms maybe?
Help me?
I liked it
Would have liked it more if the wife's character was more realistic. This wife was a flashback of the all the wooden cliches that make up the LW genre. She and the daughter were so detached from reality in their reasoning that it almost made the story unbelievable. Luckily, I just watched a bunch of feminazi sjw videos on youtube. After being completely perplexed by some of their extreme logic and rationalizations, I was able to suspend enough belief that two women like this COULD exist, even if there is a really low chance of ever meeting one.
Once l suspended enough belief, I was able to focus on what l did enjoy. The fluid writing, the use of conversation to push the story along instead of simply telling me everything I needed to know, and a realistic conclusion given the crazy situation the protag was faced with. Others enjoyed the sense of justice that it provided, but that doesn't make me enjoy a story more or less.
Overall, I didn't love it, but it was definitely liked. Good job.
great story 5*
the only thing missing was him wiping all the plates etc off the table on that 1st meal alone and then given aaron a brutal beating in front of her, just to leave her in no doubt at all that her behaviour was not ok.
brilliant story though.
Annoying story
What annoys me about this story, he comes home early finds that his wife has moved her boyfriend into their home, and he's having a calm conversation with her instead of immediately divorcing her, he actually allowed this asshole to stay in the house he paid for.. Wtf?? This story left me really annoyed. It just doesn't feel like the reaction one would have after coming home early to not only find your wife has been banging some prick in your bed, but she actually moved the fucker in and has no intentions of kicking him out‼️😕.....I'm not having any calm conversation nor am I negotiating with my fucking spouse‼️‼️ Da fuck⁉️ That bitch and the prick would've had to go..this guy was weak. Yeah he eventually divorced her, but he was still willing to try if she kicked her boyfriend out😂😂😂😂... Fuck that shit...
Compressed, But Powerful *****
I can understand some commenters having difficulty believing that women like these exist. But after visiting this site for more than a decade and learning to appreciate the true stories of some of its authors, I am no longer surprised by what I may read here.
And now there is a generation of new adults, Millennials, whose relationship values are even more removed from their elders. This is a generation that feels no need to marry. They don't even have sex as often as their parents did, when they were young. They are more interested in catering to their own professional, emotional, and creative needs. Pair-bonding is not high on their list of priorities, as it involves too much personal sacrifice. I cannot imagine what kinds of stories they might publish here, in another decade or two, as they reflect on their own lives.
I liked the title!
Some seem to have overlooked the understated intent of the title, and how it relates to the message.
While it MIGHT seem that Aaron is the surprise visitor, actually it is Henry. Life has moved on without him. His early return has him just "visiting" in what has become an alternate reality from what his memories dictated what he should find on his return home from overseas. His return is so brief, that it truly IS he that is just visiting. And this, at a home that isn't his anymore, with people who don't love him anymore. The reader gets to enjoy the same slow revelation as the character that he is the "surprise visitor" and NOT the lothario Aaron.
I like when authors make creative use of the titles to their stories, and I really appreciated this author's efforts here.
Thanks!
There's all types
No matter how unbelievable Fran and Karen seem, somewhere in the world there are really people like that. And yes, the odds of actually meeting them are slim. Because if they were common, the human race would have died out eons ago.
Javmor, you do not suspend belief. You try to cling to it for this story.
You have to suspend disbelief: temporarily allow oneself to believe something that isn't true, especially in order to enjoy a work of fiction.
Ohio wrote a story about a wife that confessed to her husband that she wanted to have a fling with an old beau. Ohio worked hard to make it as believable as possible. Since that story was posted, we've seen numerous tales where the wife tells her husband that she wants a lover as well as keeping her husband, giving both plenty of sex. In most of the stories, the guy wonders why the wife would expect them to accept it. Therein lies the obvious problem with these tales. Only MM can make it seem anywhere near believable simply because he creates a male character that is absolutely spineless and the wife knows it.
The guy is this story, and in most stories like this, is a manly man, totally unwilling to accept the brilliant idea of the wife. That begs the question; why did the wife even consider it possible? That is never explained. She goes to great length to explain what a great idea it is, but she never explains the actual reason why she thought the husband would accept such a demeaning situation. She fails to explain why she lost respect for her husband and what past actions and words of his made her think there was a glimmer of a chance he'd be a happy cuckold. As usual, the wife in this story never explains why she thought hubby had no balls and no pride. That is the ingredient needed to make these stories work and I have yet to see it added to the recipe, except by MM, who makes it obvious that the husband will allow anything the wife decides. I just find it difficult to suspend disbelief for this tale and others like it, and there seems to be many such tales.
I have noticed a trend here of late for commenters to throw barbs, or outright insults, at other commenters that feel differently about a story. What is the reason for that? Can someone explain how that can be a good thing for any of us?
Complexity in marriage relationships . . .
. . . is covered from almost every aspect in this story. This is another case of no good guys, no bad guys, just people acting in their own perceptions (mostly flawed of course) of self interest and moral right.
Did the corrosive behavior begin with Fran and her desires supported by daughter Karen? Most men would agree with the notion that Fran 'cheated' while hubby was off in Afghanistan; it was her fault for not keeping her legs faithfully crossed. Fran started the whole mess while Henry stayed faithful resisting available temptation.
Women might honestly have the opinion that Fran could have handled her needs, both physical and emotional, a little better, smarter, to get the two husband end game she wanted. Still in all why not two men she could love and be loved by?
Daughter Karen seems to accept and approve of her mother's desires. She pushes for a stronger, strident even, approach to 'win' those desires. The withholding of love, affection, even affiliation that she sees as tools all within woman's rights dig a moat around everyone in the family.
Henry's refusal to accept change, to move in any direction beyond the traditions on monogamy, is the foundation of the wall that grows stronger and higher with each action by the various characters. There is no resolution in the story. The ending is a return to traditional marriage but without solving the problems exposed. The question still remains quite valid, are there successful ways to maintain stability in a three headed family relationship?
Good job BigGuy33 in raising so many intriguing questions. Good storytelling.
so close to real life sometimes
this story is so close to real life sometimes. spouse gets a chance at earning lots of money for the family and both decide that it is worth it. while they r gone the one at home gets lonely and finds comfort in someone else to tie them over it. then expect them to go along with a bigger marriage. i agree with him leaving as he had no real choice. that is a hard decision but he made the right one. keep writiing
I liked it
And I agree with @Harddaysknight comment. However for one character in this story I couldn't suspend disbelief: His son-in-law! Sure his wife was pregnant, but why took him a lot of years to understand that a woman capable of doing what she did to her father, would cheat on him as soon as she could? And also took him those years to catch her redhanded? However a good story.
Truly Fascinating Story
The unexpected visitor maintained our interest in the events due to his amazing self control. I can't imagine doing what Henry did my fight or flee would dominate all rational thought. I really like to no more how Karen developed her world view step by step. Obviously it must have all ready existed long before her mother took Aaron in.The admirable person here was Kim...
iwould like to answer
hardday'snight question i believe it started when certain people started writing and then calling down commenters on their story such as people who really wrote sick garbage and then thought that everybody was as sick as them. I mostly don't comment but when do it is about the content not the grammar and will not sign up because i don't want these sick fuck to know anymore.
Top Drawer. Well written and thoughtful treatment. A story about fidelity.
For me it was easy to suspend disbelief throughout the tale. The characters don't have to be "believable" in that they are "types"- the embodiments of themes and desires that have been used for centuries to rationalize infidelity for the sake of personal satisfaction and self realization on the part of either partner from the Provencal poet's notion of "courtly love" to the absurdity of free love, swinging, enlightenment/empowerment, and open marriage espoused at the end of the 20th century. (Yeah, I admit my bias here.)
In each character you see manifestations of themes that have become pervasive, almost to the point of becoming social norms. Fran is the callow, self absorbed, narcissist, who will cling to any excuse to justify her betrayal of her marriage. Karen has internalized Fran's selfishness and in an effort to rationalize and become empowered treats betrayal as laudable or as nothing at all. Kim is the reaction to and rejection of the "love the one you're with" and "everything is ok between consenting adults as long as nobody gets hurt (and I get to decide what hurt is)" memes and a return to fidelity. Kim embraces fidelity even though Karen models the opposite
Henry remains faithful throughout. Faithful to his marriage, his wife, and himself. The embodiment of fidelity.
I make these observations in spite of the following:
“Persons attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot.
BY ORDER OF THE AUTHOR
per
G.G., CHIEF OF ORDNANCE”
― Mark Twain, The Adventures of Huck Finn
I won't need a blindfold and I don't smoke.
Agree with Harddaysknight. 4* for that weakness
Otherwise well written.
You are in really,really
You in trouble now buddy ! All the cucky cream pie eaters LIKE HDK, FD45 and the fat whore known as kimmi and the rest of the cucky fags . Will be here to bash you for this great story . To them I say , here eat my used condoms !! Ya cucky fags
@ anon
Como on guy. I can't believe you would say something insanely crazy like that. Telling someone to eat your used condoms? Unbelievable.
You know that you don't have any "used" condoms.
I am unable to suspend disbelief
It is impossible for me to believe that this could happen. I need some plausibility. It is implausible that a woman could be that stupid, yet manage to conceal that fact so cleverly for so many years. Would not the husband, at some point, have said to himself, "I am married to an idiot?" Idiocy is the only plausible reason for her actions. How did she conceal it all that time? Would it not have been revealed by conversing with her, at some point, even before they were married?
The husband, too, must have been an idiot. But, if he is also an idiot, how does he suddenly acquire these omnipotent and omniscient powers to take these incredible actions? Implausibility, that's the problem. Make it plausible, and they will come.
This story is not about a three way relationship in a marriage.
BobNbobbi seems to feel the question was raised about how it (a three way) could work. I don't think that question ever was raised. This story was about a wife that cheated and wanted her husband to accept it, and even embrace it. He never entered into the relationship she wanted. It was possibly considered a three way if you count when he was half way around the globe and in the dark. I suggest that doesn't count as a three way. This story made no effort to explore a relationship between two men and a woman. It was about a man being blindsided and then doing what he had to do. So, I do not feel the "question remains" as it was not part of the story, nor was it ever addressed in any substantial way. I would also suggest that it didn't make him intransient. If you have a contract, or a deal, and the other party determines they want to rewrite it to their advantage and you refuse, you're practicing good business, not being intransient so much as simply not being stupid.
I agree with the others (HDK, kimi, and others) who feel suspension of belief is difficult. In my opinion though, a story like this won't work if there are realistic people in it. A women being this detached from reality is the only kind of person who would completely blindside THIS husband with this ridiculous proposal. If said woman were real, this type of behavior wouldn't have been a surprise because she would have had a track record of consistently doing dumb shit.
Stories like this, as well as cuckold stories, need a greater suspension of belief because the characters have to be unlike any thay we've ever seen in real life in order for the story to work. Sometimes I can make myself believe (with the help of boredom and YouTube), and other times i just roll my eyes and move on to the next story with a sigh of disappointment.
Reasonably good tale.
Good change of pace for this pathetic LW group. I imagine the 100% sicko and cream pie lovers but, to them, I suggest: "put a loaded pistol into your mouth pull the trigger and then count to 10." See ya in Hell.
God bless AIDS
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Not bad
Yeah mom and daughter are over the top,but there are people lie this,husbands who feel a right to cheat because they work hard so deserve 'fun',and there are some out there pseudo feminists who would call this female empowerment. There are people who have loving poly relationships,but they are based on love and respect,you don't fo what the wife did,which poly people wold gasp at . I also wonder if a wife who after months of living w the boyfriend wouldn't come out of the fog and realize that was an illusion,prob would work better had they only been living together a shorter time.
One note to all authors,don't use AIDS as a retribution tool,for one thing AIDS takes 20 years to incubate, and if Karen was infected young she likely would have had a blood test at some point that would have picked up her hiv status and been treated.Too,even if she got fI'll blown AIDS the treatments today woukd have at the very least elongated her life.
For a woman,I would go the hpv route,cervical cancer is more deadly than aids,especially if it went undetected for a while.
Well written,I think the author could write a real tear jerker in an elongated form:)
@BobnBobbi:
As stated, this wasn't a question of an alternative relationship model. I've worked in an industry with a very high proportion of people in some variation of open or poly relationships.
Relationships are based upon trust. This is true for any significant relationship. How much can you depend upon the other party(ies) and thus how much confidence can you have in the investment you place yourself.
Fran cheated, extensively, for most of a year. She lied in the regular communications. She tried to redefine the agreements made between her and her spouse. There was no reason for her to believe this would be acceptable or accepted.
I'm actually left wondering how much of this may have been down to Karen's influence on her own mother. She is portrayed as very commanding in personality. She makes fiat statements and decisions and holds to them and expects others to.
Fran was fine with her husband going off, even if apparently relatively weak. Perhaps the daughter wasn't so fine with her father going off and felt abandoned. She didn't just condone her mother's behavior by blamed her father's absence, despite the fact it was a mutual choice between both parents.
Overall though, the story reads well. The dialog is a bit mystifying, but it isn't stilted. The element that bothers me the most is the whole 'And then she died of AIDS or related complications within a few years'. Used to see a lot more of that, but it is even less realistic now. HIV infection takes significant time to develop into AIDS, and it can be very well managed these days. So, if Karen used condoms while with her husband, which was till her daughter moved out after turning 14, and then started being unsafe... she went from clean to infected to full blown AIDS to dead in about four years. That's just silly. Would do better to get a drug resistant TB or some such if you really need to add such an element. But you don't. It doesn't really add anything, just a way to show some divine punishment against 'teh bad person'.
4*s
So much undeveloped potential, I gave you 4 *s.
Realistic dialogue. Enough character development we could differentiate between the difference persons, their agenda. Except for the other man Aaron. Plot moved at a very fast pace. Too fast for much of an emotional connection with Henry.
I have the realization that spending 3 or more pages developing characters and background is too much for most writers on this site. Except for MFH, RichardGerald, and Blackrandl(sorry if I misspelled). Also, most readers are in a hurry and it seems they don't want the longer stories.
So thank you for an entertaining story BigGuy.
It was a very good read🎯.
AMerryman
@my man
Darling, I believe we can provide the solution to the used condom conundrum. Of course, Mr. Anonymous does not have any condoms that have been used. Erectile dysfunction, you know. We must bail him out. At the next Sycophants Anonymous meeting, each of us must bring three used condoms. Be sure to bring different colors, we don't want a drab collection.
Of course, HDK and myself, being well known lovers of cream pies, as proven by his being British and my rotundity, and sycophants of long standing are in good shape. Unfortunately, FD45 was not approved in the last membership vote, so someone will have to nominate him again. Crkcppr is very intransigent and will absolutely not vote aye without a display of some knowledge of cream pies and fondness for latex. Many erotic electronic gestures.
@Kimi1990 "Mr Anonymous" How would we know?
It's all very murky, at least to me.
As for SA, I could never get past Step 4: Bootlicking
Few observations
There were definitely a few details that didn't ring true and could have been dealt with in a way that wouldn't hurt the story and would just be "cleaner". First, 18 years ago was 1999, almost three years before the war in Afghanistan started. Could have had the husband on a lucrative 18 month assignment in hard to contact area without the anachronism. Also, as has been mentioned, the AIDS is not realistic, and the same thing could have been done with another disease. An acute case of Syphillis is actually more lethal today than an HIV diagnosis.
I also think that with very minor adjustments, you could make the wife and daughter (and thus the plotline) less outlandish. The husband and wife could have has a "don't ask don't tell" arrangement while he was gone, that she took too far and fell in love and then wanted hubby to join a polyamorous relationship with Aaron. She'd still be wrong and trying to unilaterally change the rules, but there'd be some little basis in her starting point. It would help the story to make the villains less cartoonish.
These are meant as constructive critiques to a fine author who tells a good story, but could tell even a better one with pretty manageable adjustments.
Nice switch
I liked that the story was about the past. So often these are present tense, the cheating and all. It was a nice switch and a good yarn. Keep writing.
I really wish they, the webmaster, would separate willing and unwilling cheating/cucks. Personally I could not see sharing but I will admit to reading some of those. The totally wimpy guys get me though. I guess I am older and men should have at least some backbone.
@bobnbobbi
I think your comment would be very interesting if a different story had been published. But the one that was published had a protagonist who didn't want to have a different relationship than monogamy. Whether you agree or not, he has his values. He was in a relationship that reflected those values and did not want to evolve beyond it. So he left and found another person who shared those values and built a life with her. In this story, as opposed to a different one, he did NOTHING wrong (with the possible exception of never trying to repair the relationship with his daughter - I'd have liked to have seen him extend an olive branch after a while).
That turned into a great big pile of shit! Would have sent letter to ex - you turned your daughter into an aids infected cheating cunt who died alone. You are alone with no one to love or care for you. Your other husband left you and they found his decomposed body 5 years later. Die alone and in pain you piece of shit. That would have been a nicer ending. Yours was so well British wimpy. -2
The real world is full of "unbelievable characters"
I encounter at least one "unbelievable character" just about every time I go to the supermarket these days.
But in a story, the only character that really needs to be believable is the one the writer wants the readers to identify with.
And I agree that unless the story is a period piece set in the 80s, AIDS is not a good choice for karmic retribution. Better to have her shot in one of her lovers' beds when his wife turns out to be even less forgiving of infidelity than Henry was. Or if she's really a slut, maybe she just picked up the wrong guy in a bar some night and got beaten to death, OD'd on something or the guy drove drunk and ran into a bridge abutment. There are lots of different ways for stupid people to die.
This is a good story...
This is a good story...It has 3 believable characters and 4 hard to believe characters: the believables: husband, his second wife and grand-daughter. The 4 remaining: The wife, her daughter (this one was from out of space), the lover (this one was more stupid than a rock, near a mentally handicapped person) and the daughter's husband (this one as innocent as a little child). But the story was above all a good read, because of the emotion caused by finally he met his grand-daughter, a woman with values as he was. 4*
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