Standing at The Cliff

that the correct answer cucky. woman get everything and you better not question her. if he want to fuck other man YOU SHOULD MAN UP AND LET HER DO WHAT SHE DAMN WELL PLEASES FUCKER.

she earned it.

eh

I hope your editor only provided conceptual input for the story. If he edited the story for grammatical issues, you need a new editor. For me, this story didn't go anywhere. I could never find anything in the story to really keep my interest.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive

This one I liked a lot. I felt that the complexity of emotions was well explored by Javmor as author. Once again he has used the device of cutting back and forth across time periods and made it work reasonably well. (I say 'reasonably' because it's not a device that I like in most stories.)

Lue

Meh, long winded. No need for the trips down memory lane, they just made what was an okay story boring.

Ponderous And Pedantic

This yarn contains quite a bit of genuine relationship wisdom. The story can't be called superficial. But it is definitely overlong. There is no crescendo to speak of. Only the tedious droning of a deflating dirigible. Down, down, down it sinks, wheezing and exhaling the last of its bouyancy until the last spplllrrrrrp. Hey dude, I'm a real momma's boy, sniff my spplllrrrrp. Yeah, well I did and I was left in a rather torpid condition for all of it. Not exactly fun.

Not sure why it bugs me, but why does every other jagoff author have to tell us to go elsewhere if we want sex uncomplementary to fine literature? For godssakes just write the fckn story and let the chips fall. But the author had to also say how distasteful he finds sex that isn't preceded by a Shakespearean sonnet. Well la de frkin da guess what? A mildly vigorous back alley jerkoff would have been more interesting than this story. /Foley off

Needed More Sex

Pretty good, keep on writing.
Be sure to include gratuitous sex next time.

She acted little to coldly and angry when he asked her did she ever cheat. Even if she never did he just found out that she was covering for his cheating mother so it was beliveable that he was suspicious of his wife yet she told him with a smirk that she isn't skank like his mother, woman she was protecting. She could be angry at her husband but in that situation that was pretty cold from her.

Good Well

Thought out story. Lots to think about.

Good

Good beyond words, a story that shows we do not live in isolation and how our actions affect those around us. On discovering the truth Tabby was in a difficult position, she could have told her mum in law to stop or she would tell but she could not police her. Telling Andre would inevitably result in family upset so i suppose she let sleeping dogs lye, i suppose by with holding information is a lie. There is an old saying, "what we do not know we can't grieve over" but of course truth does seem to find the way out eventually. As a short story it's probably one the best pieces about relationships i have read.
P.S. Ignore "numb skull" comments.

Not a bad story, not

my kind of resolution but in looking at the people and the situations it would be easy to fall into the role of liar and ally for the mother. And I do think the point you brought out about covering is condoning was well written and well thought out. I didn't necessarily notice that much in the way of bad grammar or whatever the others noticed but it did wind a little. That's ok. I thank you for sharing your story and you ideas on fidelity. It's not only about actual sex.

Really good, and thought provoking

Dre acts like a typical only child. He may be right, but it's all about him. Tabby was wrong, for sure, but it doesn't take much to see she was in a very difficult spot.

Loved this. Really well done. Loved the Cliff theme and how you wove it in.

I didn't think the grammar was bad. I actually think it was well edited.

It wasn't a difficult choice that Tabby had to make,

It was a right or wrong choice and she chose the way most women would.never trust a woman until she proves herself, then be vewy vewy careful.

Typical javmor

Not very well written, issues all over the place, badly in need of an editor. Preachy and pseudo-philosophical, Shallow, while pretending to address reality. Javmor is a second or third rate talent with delusions of grandeur. This story has no reason for existence. It was certainly not entertaining. 2 stars.

There's a categor for this

It's called "Non-erotic." Post there. One star for putting it here. Boring as hell.

Very well done

This was a good look into a subject that a helluva lot of people ( probably most ) do , I know I'm guilty of it . That's saying what society says you need to say , but then not exactly towing the line yourself . As my old man used to say " Do as I say , not as I do ".
I thought the jumps from person to person were done well , that seems to be one of the hardest things that our amateur authors have to learn in a story like this.
This no sex clause that some of the commenters keep harping on is silly , IMO , there's plenty of stories on this site if you simply want to molest yourself , and several actual sites that are nothing but silly little stroke stories ! Plus its in the very forward of the story , stated in black and white ! So don't start bitching if you didn't pay attention to the author's warning ! Rant over .
That's two really wonderful stories in a row Javmor79 , keep 'em coming !

Thanks for sharing that wise story!!!

It`s refreshing to read a story like yours after all that cuck crap on that site!!

Pure crap

Nothing interesting, just words.

What was that?

Nothing. Started nowhere and went nowhere. Get an editor, too. Not enough here to make a good two page story.

That diseased old skank Luedon liked it.

Nothing else needs to be said. One star.

That was painful

If Nonethewiser edited this, you need a different editor. Reads like it was written as a class project by high school students.

so true

about life really enjoyed it.

No sex?

Do people really masturbate to the "consequence" or "drama" type stories? I've always assumed no but there's always someone complaining that the story has no sex.

Anyeay, I found his one sort of middling for you Javmor. It was just a sort of boring read. Maybe just my mood.

A sad and powerful tale

Funny thing is, the person I felt most for was Tabby. She was put in an impossible position.

I liked it.

No matter what ppl write, I think it could happen. 5*

Great Story

A nice change from the usual stuff. I liked the fact that a spouse cheats on the whole family, not just the other spouse concept. That goes ignored in most stories and in life as well. I have seen the child wreckage of a cheating spouse and the ensuing divorce my whole life. No matter what anyone says, a cheating spouse loses their honor and disgraces their family. The children have to live with that disgrace and shame. It is crippling and it has consequences.

HTML gremlins?

I experienced some weird browser issues on Lit. today, and kept getting random garbage between refreshing pages. That's really the only explanation I can fathom for all the negative comments. Perhaps some alternate, soulless, computer generated version of the real story is what those anons. (mostly) were served up. No, the story I read was not only one of your best works, but also the most moving and thought provoking stories I've ever read on this site! Too long? Did that nasty HTML "spam-bot" randomly offer up 20+ page versions? What I read was 5 pages of INTENSITY! Anyone remember that scene in the movie Amadeus where the Emperor tells Mozart there were "too many notes..." in his symphony? Mozart's reply was something like: "there are exactly as many notes as are needed, no more, no less..."! Poor editing and rampant grammatical errors? Pesky web gremlin at work! I think I'm reasonably adept with the English language, but the story I read didn't have any errors that were significant enough to detract from the storytelling. I fact, given the odorous piles of fecal matter that have been getting mid-3 scores lately, I'd say that this is a 6 to 7 on the "new" LW ratings scale, or right up there with Mr (and Mrs) Iverson, oshaw, laptop, etc. Maybe Lit. (with LW as Beta) is testing a new AI, with both random anonymous comment generation and arbitrary auto-voting?

Cut it to two pages and you might, might, have something

Too much rambling and unnecessary wordiness. Three stars.

True

Thought provoking

Meh

Nowhere close to the writing level as Girlinthemoon's story yesterday, not in the same universe, but this has a better score? Must be those HTML bugs @badinbed was talking about.

A very good story and is in its right place: LW!

A very good story and is in its right place: LW! It's not the first story that addresses the question: A person who covers up for a cheater is a person who condone, agree and see no wrong in cheating? A story about two wives and a man between them (husband and son), so one more reason to be posted LW. A pleasure to read it...4*

More oh Javmor's idiotic bullshit

1*

Great story

It's intelligent. How often can we say that?

There is a vast difference between

not liking a story and a story actually being BAD.

For example, Ian Pears wrote 'The Instance of the Fingerpost'. He is a good writer, wrote in the multiple nuanced languages of the narrators, got tons of details, set up an engaging mystery...and I never finished it, because I could not see myself sitting still to read a THOUSAND pages of 4 different POVs on a single incident.

I did not like the story. That doesn't mean it was bad.

So this '1 bombing' shit really amuses me as assholes using their personal preferences to just be assholes because they don't like a story. Okay. I hope you feel better. You sure showed him!

For the rest of us, this was a good nuanced story with a lot of character development about a very tricky moral dilemma. And he did it well.

Real Life

This is probably more like real life events than 99.99% of the stories in Loving Wives.

Keep up the good work.

RSKY

Tedious

The author begins with a long anti-women rant which he insists isn't anti-women. Sure buddy. Whatever you say.

Then the story drags out torturously slowly with more rants and raves. Okay. Okay. We get it. You think women are evil cunts. And you're pandering to the likeminded loons who hang out here.

Tedious. Certainly not erotic or entertaining.

Great story

Loved it.

Well Done

Well done and well written.

5+ No wonder

annony's wife left his sorry ass and fucked everyone she could find.

I liked this story

It wasn't a typical LW story, but having atypical stories once in a while is good. Perhaps the introspection was overdone a bit; a 4 page story might have been tauter.

hello

I most say this story is a land mark in marriage tail's magnificent just magnificent keep going

re: anonymous-5+ no wonder

Describing yourself again Bonnie? Fuck Off.

Great Story

Loved this tale of interpersonal strife; it seemed so real and painful. Definitely a 5 star effort. Thanks for sharing it with us.

Excellent

Well written. The only thing that wasn't as strong was Dad's reasoning for staying with cheating mom, but since it was supposed to be a BS reason anyway, that didn't detract. Keep writing.

Wow!

For some reason I almost skip by this. I'm SO glad that I didn't! Five big ones!

Some thoughts; as usual I was writing as I went along, so some may be over-taken by future events -

“I'm not a skank. Only your mother does that." – She thinks she’s hurting him telling the truth about his mother? She’s not telling him anything he doesn’t already no!

He’s right about her lying to him. Okay, she’s probably not cheating NOW, but despite her rationale about not hurting him, she apparently doesn’t have enough of a problem with cheating to not cover it up, so it does throw shade on her opposition to cheating.

I was about to join the complaints about the flashback, but then I saw the hypocrisy in what she told him and her own actions, so it worked for me. I know it’s needed for the plot, but unless she knows the girlfriend’s mother or someone in her circle of friends, how would she know about it?

I think he’s wrong to blame himself. If he wants to blame himself for his first family’s death, fine, but that doesn’t mean that he deserves to be shat on by his second wife. Even if he DID, look at what it’s done to Andre!

I don’t think I would have been so hard on Tabby, as long as she was sincerely apologizing and admitting her wrong. You don’t watch TV together, but you have a sex life? Even if it IS on life support!

I can almost have some sympathy for his mother. She never really loved Henry, but married him for noble reasons. But Tabby should never have covered for her, certainly not led to Andre, even if she thought it was for a good reason.

“You cared more about helping my mother cover up her tracks than you did about how it would affect me." – That’s not exactly true. She lied because she was afraid of how it would affect him.

Good Story, but

The introspection changed the flow and rhythm. Shorten it up and you will still make your point. Thanks.

had no problem......

giving you 5 stars. Thanks!

Boring and a total waste of time.

Try getting to the point.

Boring and a total waste of time??????

Here you go:
Mom cheated, wife knew. Dad got mad. Mom and dad divorced. Son and wife had an argument; counseling helped. Nobody had hot sex. The end.
Quick enough?
The point of the story is the story.
What you need is Literotica: Headline News. Check back in a few years when everyone's attention span is 2 minutes. Like yours.

Good Story and Writing

but the tensions and emotions ebb and flow sometimes a bit unevenly for dofferent characters and the dynamics in each marriage could be explored a bit more thoroughly. Instead of the characters interacting with the good and evil, the story seems told about and not by them.

well, Jav

Im on pp4 and cant go on without giving you a piece of my mind.

This was great for a while, but you just glossed over and dropped a huge fuking concern of the story and you keep ignoring the elephant in the fukin room.

Your hero is someone you portray as smart and a real man, yet you ignore him rolling over to Tabby and then he ends up on pp4 blaming himself for 'punishing' his loving wife.

Like the double standard he discusses in the story, you are doing the same. He has already proven Tzbby a liar. Why, knowing she lies, do you and he conveniently allow no care zs to the fact she hasnt yet told him where the fuck SHE was that day? Why does she get a free pass.

Once in my life a strange circumstance occured involving MY wife. I took her down and pulled off her slacks and panties. Its pretty easy to check a pussy to see if its been just recently fucked. There was no way I was going to bed not knowing whether she was going to crawl in our bed or on the couch.

He would have done the same if he was a man and smart. So which is it-is he a man or is be just dump.

Now, i will return to pp4 and see if you left the hole in this story or if you filled it in.

What was headed for a 5 is probably not going there now.