Very well done! Very emotional and believable. A problem that cannot truly be resolved happily even when there is love! Your skills with the written word are impressive.
Very much captures the dismay and bewilderment at the core of Patricia's submission. The raw and bruised emotions of both parties comes across vividly. The solution? There probably isn't one, but it does seem that some kind of separation is inevitable, though how the severing of what has clearly been a very close partnership between the two will be explained to the children, families and long term friends, Heaven knows.
This is an excellent follow up to Patricia's story. Yes, I'd like to see an ending, but the sad truth is that it probably is impossible to do a short qick ending, other than Jim walking out. And that may be what happens in the long run, or it may not. You have done an excellent job in portraying the emotions, but perhaps more could have been added to show her understanding of what he is going through, because most of what she says still relates to her feeling.
The combination of Patricia's and your work leaves one wanting more, and with what you have shown with your writing, don't be afraid to carry it further, even if you don't want to tell what you did in your personal situation.
Excellent follow up! I don't think their needs to be an ending. I think their should be follow ups checking in on the couple. Describing the couple , their childern, family and friends dealing with this situation. I would like to hear about the struggles and I think the joys they can still have dealing with this. I think it will be very interesting hearing about her frist sexual experience with a women. It might be the greatest experience of her life and it maybe a disappointment. Her relationships with a women lover maybe great or may not be, she is use to having a honest and strong relationship with her husband of so many years. She may find out that her relationship with others may not be so honest. How she deals with the first time her husband is with another woman. Does she get jealous now everytime she see him with another woman.
Their is an endless path here and it would be interesting to hear how our loving couple and family are doing from time to time.
This is a worthy follow up to patricia51's story. I loved how you expressed your feelings in words. Can there be a solutions to this mess? All I think now that if the two of them can fight together and love each other, anything is possible.
For the love of God, I hope this isn't your last submission in Literotica.
A wonderful display of the dilemma facing such a couple.
Several comments touch on a resolution or solution, an "ending" to their problem. Quite simply, there is none. They can learn to live with it. Happily or otherwise, I don't know. So many of my stories are criticized for not having an "ending", a simple summation and resolution of the problems a couple faces. Life seldom if ever gives us such.
A comment below conjectures on the "new" experiences perhaps facing them. Her first woman, her reaction to Jim's "loving" another woman. This presupposes such experiences are sure things, things definitely going to occur.
One of the things I have picked up reading the occasional FF story is that the sex act is often forgone even in stable lesbian couples. This goes contrary to the "new" understanding of women's sexuallity. It is now presupposed that women have the same strong sex drives as men. No, they do not. Theirs is different: Not weaker, but different. I make no claim to understand it, but women seem desperately in need of the reassurance an embrace gives. In at least some cases this is all that is needed.
How this couple can learn to live with the contradictory feelings this revelation engenders would be an ongoing, life long tale. One of courage and sacrifice by each. It would, or should I say should, also be deep in love one for the other.
On a lighter note; a story following Jim's change of concern when the couple goes to a New Years Eve party would be "fun" to write. Something like...
----- Jim looked over to see Pete the Asshole talking to his wife. A shiver of jealous anger surged through him at the Asshole coming on to her. An unexpected smile appeared on his face when he remembered her revelation in that damnable letter. The smile was erased when he realized it was Pete's wife who had a hand on his wife's arm. The jealousy was back, this time tinged with fear.-----
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Anonymous01/20/05
Very Enjoyable
Like others I believe you capture the pain of both parties, as Patricia 51's original story captured the pain of the wife.
I think most people like resolution. To use your turn of words, not necessarily solutions, but resolutions. Because one way or another there has to be some resolution. There really are only a few options and we don't have to state them they are fairly obvious. It would be interesting for various authors to explore each of those options.
Good work. I would like to see finality.
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Anonymous01/20/05
Exceptionally Expressed Insight
KUDO's Author - very well expressed! Having read it twice, I conclude that his feelings of commitment are staunchly and fairly based in thier long agreed upon marital contract. That his heart and his mind can't compromise thier marriage vows and cannot agree with her wish to break that agreement to share her body with another. He feels betrayed and as you will see, in my opinion he is justified in feeling so.
His voiced opinion of her newly determined gay position opens several other observations. Being gay, as my son is, isn't a switch that one can turn off and on, early in life it's either on, or on and suppressed, or its never to be on as you are not gay according to extensive reseach. Free wheeling BI's are not gay, its just for sexual stimulation.
If during the last year, she has begun to feel gay and less in love with her spouse, then she has been living a suppressed known lie for much of her her life and her entire married life (again as the experts say you can't affect that gay switch). Conversely, if she's not really gay, the last year's non-sexual desire (non-love) for her spouse has apparantly caused her to now selfishly want to explore her BI side love for some unknown woman. This indicates she wants to explore sex and love outside her marriage but continue the security and warmth of her home, family and the presence of her husband though the offered mercy sex. So, she is either a known (herself) long time suppressed gay or she wants to explore her bi side. With stated certainty, she says she no longer loves him as a husband sexually and may not have ever felt for him what he feels or now used to feel for her.
The conclusion of what eventually happened is not difficult given acceptance of his words, stated thoughts and the above interpretations or conclusion of what is known. If gay, it is apparent that she should never have married but early on accepted her sexuality as my son did. He didn't selfishly drag down a whole family through deception. He now leads a happy and productive life because of his early acceptance and his basic human decency.
Thanks Author - This very well written story could help some people understand the basic human responsiblities of honesty and respect and the resulting consequence if selfishly ignored.
and a good follow on from Patti's story.
BUT, I feel extremely cheated by your ending.
In your intro you wrote:
"So, having been in a somewhat similar predicament as our Jim in the story, I felt I had to write a reply, from one man's perspective."
It is not an unreasonable interpretation that you intended to tell us how your situation resolved itself. That is what I expected, and I was cheated by your misrepresentation.
I am getting a bit tired of writers thinking they are clever by deliberately not ending their stories.
That said, as far as this went it was well written, but the misrepresentation was too bad to give it a good score.
A good very moving story dealing with a tough problem. I would love to see some one write a ending for this, but quite honestly I have no ideal what it would be, there is really no easy answer to this problem and love dosn't always fix things.
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Anonymous01/20/05
God
Another person that knows just what "god" is thinking. I just don't get this shit, it has nothing to do with God, the "god" you people pray to was created by the church to control you. God, if you want to believe in it, has nothing to do with the church. Fucking moralistic, holier-than-though shit that people use as a motivation/excuse for whatever they need it for. God says this and God says that, God says go bomb this country, God says burn these people at the stake because they're witches, God says stone this person to death because they don't believe in the "right" religion. You know what? God didn't say any of that shit, the people in those circumstances did, just easier letting God take the blame. Did George write this crap?
The comments about "here is someone who knows what God wants" did not seem to know that this is a pretty accurate look at the way lots of people think about God in their lives. I'm not one of them and I know and love lots of them.
Your story follows Patti's "Torn" quite well. I could and may write a follow on to your story. This situation happens more often than most folk would believe. Perhaps story lines like this can assist some in dealing with the unexpected. Thank you for taking this story line on and doing so well.
I want to thank all of you who took the time to vote and comment on this, my first story. It won't be the last. I also feel that despite the great response I received, and advice to the contrary, I do want to address some issues which folks have brought up. First to the "gentleman" who decided he had to go on a theological tirade; I have no blanking idea what "GOD" thinks. I, like Hume, am a mitigated skeptic. I don't think enough evidence exists either pro or con to prove for or against "His/Her" existence. If you read Pat's story first, as I asked you to, you know that it was pointed out in the 4th paragraph that she taught at sunday school. It was therefore not a particularly difficult feat of inductive logic to go from sunday school to church to God. I used this device to touch upon the religious aspects of marital vows. If this got past you, I apologise.
Next, my "device" of not finishing the story. What should he have done? Shot her? Sold her into white slavery? Given her a taste of "really big cock" and cured her? Continued to pretend that nothing had changed? Or,perhaps, asked her for a 3-way and totally blown the emotional content of a great piece of Patricia51's fiction? I still maintain that the problems facing these people had no "happy ending". Sadly, much of life is just like that.
Most of you enjoyed my take and I thank you for that. I will continue to write focusing my stories on characters, dilemmas, and consequences. If you don't like Pat51, HDK, Troubador or X_Bishops type of work, well, grin, you won't like mine. I hope some of you enjoy them. Flame away! :-)
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Anonymous01/21/05
To Author: YEA on theme of future works
Bless you lad - we need more authors of the mentioned ilk. Life and consequence travel hand in hand and can be believeably erotic and entertaining. So, bring em on please.
Thanks and Best Regards
For the sake of full understanding of this story, I read "Torn" before I read "A Typical Day".
Both writers did a very good job with telling their side of the story. Both of the writers developed their character to "support" their view of this crisis that befell this "once happy couple and their wonderful marriage".
I think it is all a lie.
The wife pours out her "agony" of a situation I believe is more of a mid-life crisis than a change of sexual orientation. The wife "fantasies" about other women and turns that fantasy into a marriage crisis. She makes her fantasy a "life or death" situation and wants her husband to "help fix it" so that she won't be blamed for any of her future actions.
My soultion: Separation. (Then maybe divorce) The wife must leave the family and go off to find a female lover. Is her sexual orientation real, or just a fantasy creation? Life without her husband or her children will test whether or not there really has been a sexual orientation change or just a sexual "desire".
The husband does what Dustin Hoffman did in "Kramer vs Kramer", he pulls himself and his remaining family together and they form a different family life-style for themselves. Hard as it would be, the alternative (living together) for Jim and the kids would be disasterous. In the end, hate would replace any love they might have had for each other.
The wife must find the solution for herself. Don't hang all this baggage on the husband and make his life a living hell. Give him some "space" to allow his manhood to remain in tact. With them living together, the so-called "change" will always be present in that intimate area that bonds a marriage together. I don't think that there ever will be any "true intimacy" for this couple. Not until (if it is possible) the wife to realize that her change is only a mid-life crisis. (My Dr. Strangelove theory)
Over simplified?? Sure...but what did you expect from a guy who was always faithful to his wife and expects the same in return. (My name is not Jim...) I wish him good luck and lots of intestinal fortitude.
But, I did enjoy both of the writers story telling. (Really)
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Anonymous01/21/05
Excelent beginning
This uh... essay? Vignette? Anecdote? Prolog? Is very well written. The characters seem real and complex. Especially given the short exposure they're given. A good start but this reader feels cheated without some sort of ending. (Cheated out of what? one might ask.) It doesn't have to be "and they lived happily ever after." Interesting and painful questions are posed and it seems like the author should take a shot at some answers.
The explaination for the lack of any resolution is appreciated and does make sense. In that spirit I'd like to share a favorite joke.
I want to speak in favor of not finishing stories. Look at the complexity of the characters as raised in the comments of the readers and how they think about what is the real situation. Maybe this is a midlife crisis. Maybe she has hidden her orientation from herself until recently. Maybe she even has a tumor that is affecting her emotional responses. What should he do? Doesn't the most effective response depend on correctly diagnosing what is going on with her? Unless the writer(s) is going to resolve every psychological and emotional issue, how do you write a single ending? Even if we could nail down why she feels this way, it is entirely possible that there may be more than one valid, somewhat successful approach.
Once an author chooses, the reader loses the opportunity to use his own imagination as to what the consequences will be. I don't advocate this for all stories. But there are times when the issues and questions raised are much more satisfyingly interesting to ponder than a single outcome nailed down for all time by an author.
It was nice to see someone take a credible crack at his side. I've been struggling with my take on this since Torn came out.
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Anonymous01/28/05
boredom rules here then!
I wonder why this author's stuff is always empty of much power, except of the analytical or self-pitying variety.
Does he actually LIKE sex stories designed to excite the reader at all?
Good technical writing but logical fallacies persist.
1. He is not her "life" as she repeats. If he was, she wouldn't be looking elsewhere. He is her meal ticket, house warmer, and sperm donor. That is not love.
Love is sacrifice to the object of one's affection. If she loves him, she sacrifices her curiosity about women, just as any married couple sacrifices acting on their curiosity about other people.
2. She is not a lesbian. She wants to have sex with a woman. And from the sound of it, not a particular woman, just some woman.
3. Sexual orientation is not fixed -- it is developed by the choices people make one day or one moment at a time. What about those oriented to children? to cadavers? Should one simply fall to one's compulsions? What about heterosexuals -- does that mean men should have sex with any available woman?
Chagrined"
I've read your work before and found it to be well done and thought provoking. When I came across your possible answer to Patricia51's "Torn" my antenna went up. She is arguably one of the best authors on Literotica. When I first read "Torn" I spent a lot of time in deep thought about what my reaction would have been. There are several authors who tried to produce a satisfactory ending to her story and I'm still not sure that they totally suceeded, just as I'm not quite sure that you have fully suceeded. I will say that your version makes more sense then those I've read by other authors, even if it is open ended. Disregard those comments by the pimply faced wannabe authors who produce nothing and who don't have the guts to sign their names to their venomous and usually illiterate inputs. You at least had the guts to propose and try too dispose. Well Done. Ronnie W.
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Anonymous03/14/06
PATHETIC CRAP
let me see if I have this right....
one day she wakes up and says or decides she is Gay....?
No that cant be since all the fucking queers out there have "Proven" sexual choice is determined at birth.
so the wife KNEW she was Gay going into the Marriage!?!
Oh my god....
This part is the best.... when the wife says
"Jim, I love you so much! You are my life!"
but forgets to add..."the sight or very idea of you touching me makes me ill... "
LOLOLOLOLOL
ROTFLOL
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Anonymous03/16/06
The story was well written and showed the feelings
of both people very well I belive. Some of the things she said didn't make any sence. I don't believe there is any happy ending to this story. They do have a few options and should perhaps try meeting with professional to seek answers. But truely I believe after a while she will have to try sex with another woman. This may or may not be acceptable to the husband. But, if he gives her time she may relize she has made a huge error and come back to him. Will or should he accept her that's his choice and I can't answer it. Perhaps while she is out with a woman her husband should go out with other women too and have his own sex which if she loves him like she tells him she does, miht destory her or wake her up. Then perhaps they could meet 6 months or a year later and see what has happened. If both want to stay marriged then it might happen. But if either wants to end the marriage then so be it. But I really believe the real marriage is over. She should move on. It has taken her a long time to make this decision to tell her husband and now she must go. If the husband has any brains he knows that and should hold on to the house and as much of their assets as he can for the sake of the children. This must have happened to a family somewhere somehow but as far as how they handled it I have no idea. The marriage is over. Matybe they can live together but I don't belive that is possible either. Just another opinion from a woman's viewpoit. Thanks.
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Anonymous09/21/13
This isn't a finish. Worse than the other renditions. And, no voting. Therefore written by a gutless wonder.
chagrined: Thanks for the sequel that really wasn't a sequel. All you did was repeat and amplify the situation that Jim and Erica find themselves. I will say that you did it masterfully and your story was very well written. Surely you must have had an ending or solution to the problem in mind while you were writing your story. Why not share it with us the readers?
Great dive into examining his immediate feelings.
Then it stops. Thunk. Gearshift is in Park.
No ending, no next step, no ...... All your chapter ( written well ) did was expound on his current emotional state. It didn't answer anything. It actually left me with more questions than the original tale.
It wasn't a sequel and did nothing to expand on the original. In fact it seems like some sort of self indulgent exercise for you to prove how clever you are.
but really tore him up. Maybe they'll stay together, maybe they won't. I think that there must have been a precipitating event and that she hasn't been honest about it despite claiming how hard it was to write. It, in my opinion, probably was much harder to read. He deserves a sexual partner and she has deprived him of one ... at least a life partner.
I don't know what you did if there is any truth to this at all. Whatever you chose was hard far harder than the self-centered, self-satisfying attitude of your wife.
She kept things from him, she spent time with her lover, maybe not sexual but I bet it was. She finally just decided to let him make the decision on whether to continue like they were or to let her be a lizard and him support her. I think that was the two options she had envisioned, hoping for the second one. She wasn't brave, she wasn't honest, what she was boiled down to a selfish woman who wanted everything without giving him anything. I think all of the histrionics were because he was talking about splitting up, gravy train gone. If she had any feelings or respect for him she would have told him, writing a letter is bullshit. Didn't she think of the kids? Didn't she realize that they could actually see and hear and think and come to their own conclusions about her sudden lifestyle change? Sudden, more bullshit. She had probably been seeing this "woman" the entire time and was sneaky enough to hide it. Can't see the husband ever rebounding from this, too big a blow to his equilibrium. And his ego. The prevailing thought on LW is that a man having an "ego" is a bad thing. Call it something else, a sense of self worth, a sense of your own abilities, confidence maybe. Women have it in abundance, why shouldn't men be allowed to have this.
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Anonymous04/01/15
no
something is wrong.
You dont become gay after 21 years together. She had children even.
A gay would not be telling him he is her life, she cant sleep without him. Yet doesnt want sex.
The way these stories are written makes no sense. After a few years of marriage perhaps, bit 21 years? nope. even if she was bi it would have popped up alot sooner.
She needs to see a pyschiatrist and a doctor. something is wrong here.
She is going to destroy her husband and her childrens lives. They will never recover from it, not ever.
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Anonymous04/01/15
Well, if she is into other women he needs to walk away
Whether or not the person who is cheating is cheating with the opposite sex or the same sex, it is still cheating. He best needs to cut his losses and walk away.
This woman is a cheater. She may have never cheated yet, but she tried to cheat and the other party (man or woman) turned her down. The lesbian issue is just a smokescreen. I don't care if she is going to cheat with a man or a woman, it is still cheating. Why doesn't she just ask for a divorce then she can do what she wants. After the letter telling her husband how much he disgusts her, but wait...she really loves him. She doesn't love him and hasn't for a long time. Any guy after reading that letter would just get rid of her as soon as possible. The letter made it pretty clear what she thought of her husband. I don't understand him staying with her. That letter should have killed any love he had for her.
You often hear about how people are astounded when someone turns gay. They don't turn gay. They were always gay or bi. Because their parents, society, or their fear dictated they must be straight, they lived a lie for umpteen years. at dome point they've had enough, can't take it anymore, or the decpetion slef betrayal is killing them.
What the closet escapers should say is, "I tried to make myself straight. I picked the best person I could find to help me do that. I love you, but I'm not right for you, and you aren't right for me."
I don't think there could be a better way of complementing your writing. An Author's first submission, parallel to Pat51's literary heights. Kudos.
Your extension of this emotional roller coaster from the male perspective was perfectly done. I'm glad that you avoided the typical macho knee jerk reaction on this very mature & sensitive issue.
However, I do agree with many of the commentators,especially Scorpio44, it needs an ending. A solution. Not because every story needs an ending, but more so because, as per your own admission, you have been through a similar situation.
Of course, I do understand your need for privacy,but personally I feel that this is one situation that demands all the help that a couple can get. Especially a truly loving couple. And there a lot more out there,with 'closets' being opened everyday, facing a similar dilemma.
It has been a long time since both the postings & the whole LGBT issue has gained a Quantum Leap after the 7/26 SCOTUS ruling in USA.
But the truth is that the emotional issues in situations like this remain, as yet,unanswered.
Nicely written... even though I loathe end it yourself stories
I don't want to end it myself. I am not Jim and I am not "you" and i haven't the context to end it myself and frankly felt cheated that you ran away from finishing it.
That I felt cheated is a compliment to your writing. I empathize with both characters and wanted to read more. Your use of 2nd person past tense was executed brilliantly and I hate 2nd person stories.
As a story fragment it was nicely done. As a story, you copped out.
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Anonymous10/08/15
Ah The Preference Continuum
"Jim, you know I can't sleep without you there."
If she's gay, she will want a woman instead of him, so this sentence is an admittance that she, like all of us, is just somewhere along the continuum. And she, like all of us, has to deal with whether or not to allow herself to desire people other than her spouse, whatever the gender. And my ending is that she gets help with herself.
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Anonymous10/15/15
I wish
I could rate this. 1*
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Anonymous10/07/16
Patricia51 Queen hater
I knew as soon as the name Patricia51 was invoked that this was going to be anti male.... She is the queen man hater cuck loving cunt with Blackrandi a close second.. If she is who you choose to spinoff then I feel badly for you and your talent.
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Anonymous10/07/16
@anon Patricia 51
Dude, how insecure are you. You should get help before the voices tell you to kill yourself
Patricia51 is anti male, being a woman I see her slant and that's fine because after all she is a woman...... Anon who told someone to get help, you are just as sad and pathetic..... Good not great story, really did nothing to move the original along at all......
I found this a heartwarming and compassionate consideration of a major disturbance to a long-term relationship.
We all have to play the cards we're dealt, however difficult that might be.
Drew a predictable response from insecure redneck males but that's all good.
If only life were so simple or, should I say, simplistic.
English
No easy answer
Very well done! Very emotional and believable. A problem that cannot truly be resolved happily even when there is love! Your skills with the written word are impressive.
Good follow up.
Very much captures the dismay and bewilderment at the core of Patricia's submission. The raw and bruised emotions of both parties comes across vividly. The solution? There probably isn't one, but it does seem that some kind of separation is inevitable, though how the severing of what has clearly been a very close partnership between the two will be explained to the children, families and long term friends, Heaven knows.
Strong emotional writing.
The Sad Truth
This is an excellent follow up to Patricia's story. Yes, I'd like to see an ending, but the sad truth is that it probably is impossible to do a short qick ending, other than Jim walking out. And that may be what happens in the long run, or it may not. You have done an excellent job in portraying the emotions, but perhaps more could have been added to show her understanding of what he is going through, because most of what she says still relates to her feeling.
The combination of Patricia's and your work leaves one wanting more, and with what you have shown with your writing, don't be afraid to carry it further, even if you don't want to tell what you did in your personal situation.
Excellent!!!
Excellent follow up! I don't think their needs to be an ending. I think their should be follow ups checking in on the couple. Describing the couple , their childern, family and friends dealing with this situation. I would like to hear about the struggles and I think the joys they can still have dealing with this. I think it will be very interesting hearing about her frist sexual experience with a women. It might be the greatest experience of her life and it maybe a disappointment. Her relationships with a women lover maybe great or may not be, she is use to having a honest and strong relationship with her husband of so many years. She may find out that her relationship with others may not be so honest. How she deals with the first time her husband is with another woman. Does she get jealous now everytime she see him with another woman.
Their is an endless path here and it would be interesting to hear how our loving couple and family are doing from time to time.
Impressive.....
This is a worthy follow up to patricia51's story. I loved how you expressed your feelings in words. Can there be a solutions to this mess? All I think now that if the two of them can fight together and love each other, anything is possible.
For the love of God, I hope this isn't your last submission in Literotica.
Wow
Gosh I'm proud of you!!! It's even better now that it's submitted!
Told you the response would be overwhelming uh :)
Thoughtful, difficult,
A wonderful display of the dilemma facing such a couple.
Several comments touch on a resolution or solution, an "ending" to their problem. Quite simply, there is none. They can learn to live with it. Happily or otherwise, I don't know. So many of my stories are criticized for not having an "ending", a simple summation and resolution of the problems a couple faces. Life seldom if ever gives us such.
A comment below conjectures on the "new" experiences perhaps facing them. Her first woman, her reaction to Jim's "loving" another woman. This presupposes such experiences are sure things, things definitely going to occur.
One of the things I have picked up reading the occasional FF story is that the sex act is often forgone even in stable lesbian couples. This goes contrary to the "new" understanding of women's sexuallity. It is now presupposed that women have the same strong sex drives as men. No, they do not. Theirs is different: Not weaker, but different. I make no claim to understand it, but women seem desperately in need of the reassurance an embrace gives. In at least some cases this is all that is needed.
How this couple can learn to live with the contradictory feelings this revelation engenders would be an ongoing, life long tale. One of courage and sacrifice by each. It would, or should I say should, also be deep in love one for the other.
On a lighter note; a story following Jim's change of concern when the couple goes to a New Years Eve party would be "fun" to write. Something like...
----- Jim looked over to see Pete the Asshole talking to his wife. A shiver of jealous anger surged through him at the Asshole coming on to her. An unexpected smile appeared on his face when he remembered her revelation in that damnable letter. The smile was erased when he realized it was Pete's wife who had a hand on his wife's arm. The jealousy was back, this time tinged with fear.-----
Very Enjoyable
Like others I believe you capture the pain of both parties, as Patricia 51's original story captured the pain of the wife.
I think most people like resolution. To use your turn of words, not necessarily solutions, but resolutions. Because one way or another there has to be some resolution. There really are only a few options and we don't have to state them they are fairly obvious. It would be interesting for various authors to explore each of those options.
Good work. I would like to see finality.
Exceptionally Expressed Insight
KUDO's Author - very well expressed! Having read it twice, I conclude that his feelings of commitment are staunchly and fairly based in thier long agreed upon marital contract. That his heart and his mind can't compromise thier marriage vows and cannot agree with her wish to break that agreement to share her body with another. He feels betrayed and as you will see, in my opinion he is justified in feeling so.
His voiced opinion of her newly determined gay position opens several other observations. Being gay, as my son is, isn't a switch that one can turn off and on, early in life it's either on, or on and suppressed, or its never to be on as you are not gay according to extensive reseach. Free wheeling BI's are not gay, its just for sexual stimulation.
If during the last year, she has begun to feel gay and less in love with her spouse, then she has been living a suppressed known lie for much of her her life and her entire married life (again as the experts say you can't affect that gay switch). Conversely, if she's not really gay, the last year's non-sexual desire (non-love) for her spouse has apparantly caused her to now selfishly want to explore her BI side love for some unknown woman. This indicates she wants to explore sex and love outside her marriage but continue the security and warmth of her home, family and the presence of her husband though the offered mercy sex. So, she is either a known (herself) long time suppressed gay or she wants to explore her bi side. With stated certainty, she says she no longer loves him as a husband sexually and may not have ever felt for him what he feels or now used to feel for her.
The conclusion of what eventually happened is not difficult given acceptance of his words, stated thoughts and the above interpretations or conclusion of what is known. If gay, it is apparent that she should never have married but early on accepted her sexuality as my son did. He didn't selfishly drag down a whole family through deception. He now leads a happy and productive life because of his early acceptance and his basic human decency.
Thanks Author - This very well written story could help some people understand the basic human responsiblities of honesty and respect and the resulting consequence if selfishly ignored.
Good -as far as it went
and a good follow on from Patti's story.
BUT, I feel extremely cheated by your ending.
In your intro you wrote:
"So, having been in a somewhat similar predicament as our Jim in the story, I felt I had to write a reply, from one man's perspective."
It is not an unreasonable interpretation that you intended to tell us how your situation resolved itself. That is what I expected, and I was cheated by your misrepresentation.
I am getting a bit tired of writers thinking they are clever by deliberately not ending their stories.
That said, as far as this went it was well written, but the misrepresentation was too bad to give it a good score.
very moving
A good very moving story dealing with a tough problem. I would love to see some one write a ending for this, but quite honestly I have no ideal what it would be, there is really no easy answer to this problem and love dosn't always fix things.
God
Another person that knows just what "god" is thinking. I just don't get this shit, it has nothing to do with God, the "god" you people pray to was created by the church to control you. God, if you want to believe in it, has nothing to do with the church. Fucking moralistic, holier-than-though shit that people use as a motivation/excuse for whatever they need it for. God says this and God says that, God says go bomb this country, God says burn these people at the stake because they're witches, God says stone this person to death because they don't believe in the "right" religion. You know what? God didn't say any of that shit, the people in those circumstances did, just easier letting God take the blame. Did George write this crap?
You're right, there is no one solution
The comments about "here is someone who knows what God wants" did not seem to know that this is a pretty accurate look at the way lots of people think about God in their lives. I'm not one of them and I know and love lots of them.
Your story follows Patti's "Torn" quite well. I could and may write a follow on to your story. This situation happens more often than most folk would believe. Perhaps story lines like this can assist some in dealing with the unexpected. Thank you for taking this story line on and doing so well.
RSVP by the author
I want to thank all of you who took the time to vote and comment on this, my first story. It won't be the last. I also feel that despite the great response I received, and advice to the contrary, I do want to address some issues which folks have brought up. First to the "gentleman" who decided he had to go on a theological tirade; I have no blanking idea what "GOD" thinks. I, like Hume, am a mitigated skeptic. I don't think enough evidence exists either pro or con to prove for or against "His/Her" existence. If you read Pat's story first, as I asked you to, you know that it was pointed out in the 4th paragraph that she taught at sunday school. It was therefore not a particularly difficult feat of inductive logic to go from sunday school to church to God. I used this device to touch upon the religious aspects of marital vows. If this got past you, I apologise.
Next, my "device" of not finishing the story. What should he have done? Shot her? Sold her into white slavery? Given her a taste of "really big cock" and cured her? Continued to pretend that nothing had changed? Or,perhaps, asked her for a 3-way and totally blown the emotional content of a great piece of Patricia51's fiction? I still maintain that the problems facing these people had no "happy ending". Sadly, much of life is just like that.
Most of you enjoyed my take and I thank you for that. I will continue to write focusing my stories on characters, dilemmas, and consequences. If you don't like Pat51, HDK, Troubador or X_Bishops type of work, well, grin, you won't like mine. I hope some of you enjoy them. Flame away! :-)
To Author: YEA on theme of future works
Bless you lad - we need more authors of the mentioned ilk. Life and consequence travel hand in hand and can be believeably erotic and entertaining. So, bring em on please.
Thanks and Best Regards
Not true...
For the sake of full understanding of this story, I read "Torn" before I read "A Typical Day".
Both writers did a very good job with telling their side of the story. Both of the writers developed their character to "support" their view of this crisis that befell this "once happy couple and their wonderful marriage".
I think it is all a lie.
The wife pours out her "agony" of a situation I believe is more of a mid-life crisis than a change of sexual orientation. The wife "fantasies" about other women and turns that fantasy into a marriage crisis. She makes her fantasy a "life or death" situation and wants her husband to "help fix it" so that she won't be blamed for any of her future actions.
My soultion: Separation. (Then maybe divorce) The wife must leave the family and go off to find a female lover. Is her sexual orientation real, or just a fantasy creation? Life without her husband or her children will test whether or not there really has been a sexual orientation change or just a sexual "desire".
The husband does what Dustin Hoffman did in "Kramer vs Kramer", he pulls himself and his remaining family together and they form a different family life-style for themselves. Hard as it would be, the alternative (living together) for Jim and the kids would be disasterous. In the end, hate would replace any love they might have had for each other.
The wife must find the solution for herself. Don't hang all this baggage on the husband and make his life a living hell. Give him some "space" to allow his manhood to remain in tact. With them living together, the so-called "change" will always be present in that intimate area that bonds a marriage together. I don't think that there ever will be any "true intimacy" for this couple. Not until (if it is possible) the wife to realize that her change is only a mid-life crisis. (My Dr. Strangelove theory)
Over simplified?? Sure...but what did you expect from a guy who was always faithful to his wife and expects the same in return. (My name is not Jim...) I wish him good luck and lots of intestinal fortitude.
But, I did enjoy both of the writers story telling. (Really)
Excelent beginning
This uh... essay? Vignette? Anecdote? Prolog? Is very well written. The characters seem real and complex. Especially given the short exposure they're given. A good start but this reader feels cheated without some sort of ending. (Cheated out of what? one might ask.) It doesn't have to be "and they lived happily ever after." Interesting and painful questions are posed and it seems like the author should take a shot at some answers.
The explaination for the lack of any resolution is appreciated and does make sense. In that spirit I'd like to share a favorite joke.
"A man walks into a bar."
climax interruptus
I want to speak in favor of not finishing stories. Look at the complexity of the characters as raised in the comments of the readers and how they think about what is the real situation. Maybe this is a midlife crisis. Maybe she has hidden her orientation from herself until recently. Maybe she even has a tumor that is affecting her emotional responses. What should he do? Doesn't the most effective response depend on correctly diagnosing what is going on with her? Unless the writer(s) is going to resolve every psychological and emotional issue, how do you write a single ending? Even if we could nail down why she feels this way, it is entirely possible that there may be more than one valid, somewhat successful approach.
Once an author chooses, the reader loses the opportunity to use his own imagination as to what the consequences will be. I don't advocate this for all stories. But there are times when the issues and questions raised are much more satisfyingly interesting to ponder than a single outcome nailed down for all time by an author.
It was nice to see someone take a credible crack at his side. I've been struggling with my take on this since Torn came out.
boredom rules here then!
I wonder why this author's stuff is always empty of much power, except of the analytical or self-pitying variety.
Does he actually LIKE sex stories designed to excite the reader at all?
Very nice
Your stories are well planned, well structured, and well executed.
While it was not what I expected, it was certainly a higher caliber of writing than I am used to seeing on this site.
Kudos,
A Fan
I found it a true yawn
Boredom comes in all lengths.
Don't call it love
Good technical writing but logical fallacies persist.
1. He is not her "life" as she repeats. If he was, she wouldn't be looking elsewhere. He is her meal ticket, house warmer, and sperm donor. That is not love.
Love is sacrifice to the object of one's affection. If she loves him, she sacrifices her curiosity about women, just as any married couple sacrifices acting on their curiosity about other people.
2. She is not a lesbian. She wants to have sex with a woman. And from the sound of it, not a particular woman, just some woman.
3. Sexual orientation is not fixed -- it is developed by the choices people make one day or one moment at a time. What about those oriented to children? to cadavers? Should one simply fall to one's compulsions? What about heterosexuals -- does that mean men should have sex with any available woman?
Bravo
You tried your level best to come up with a partial solution to an impossible problem.
I have been wracking my brain to come up with an acceptable answer. I cannot find one.
The wife has put an incredible burden on the marriage and their relationship, and even she acknowledges that she has not answer.
I wish your other fans come up with something that will word for these folks.
Thanks for a great story.
beetle
Thoughts late at night
Chagrined"
I've read your work before and found it to be well done and thought provoking. When I came across your possible answer to Patricia51's "Torn" my antenna went up. She is arguably one of the best authors on Literotica. When I first read "Torn" I spent a lot of time in deep thought about what my reaction would have been. There are several authors who tried to produce a satisfactory ending to her story and I'm still not sure that they totally suceeded, just as I'm not quite sure that you have fully suceeded. I will say that your version makes more sense then those I've read by other authors, even if it is open ended. Disregard those comments by the pimply faced wannabe authors who produce nothing and who don't have the guts to sign their names to their venomous and usually illiterate inputs. You at least had the guts to propose and try too dispose. Well Done. Ronnie W.
PATHETIC CRAP
let me see if I have this right....
one day she wakes up and says or decides she is Gay....?
No that cant be since all the fucking queers out there have "Proven" sexual choice is determined at birth.
so the wife KNEW she was Gay going into the Marriage!?!
Oh my god....
This part is the best.... when the wife says
"Jim, I love you so much! You are my life!"
but forgets to add..."the sight or very idea of you touching me makes me ill... "
LOLOLOLOLOL
ROTFLOL
The story was well written and showed the feelings
of both people very well I belive. Some of the things she said didn't make any sence. I don't believe there is any happy ending to this story. They do have a few options and should perhaps try meeting with professional to seek answers. But truely I believe after a while she will have to try sex with another woman. This may or may not be acceptable to the husband. But, if he gives her time she may relize she has made a huge error and come back to him. Will or should he accept her that's his choice and I can't answer it. Perhaps while she is out with a woman her husband should go out with other women too and have his own sex which if she loves him like she tells him she does, miht destory her or wake her up. Then perhaps they could meet 6 months or a year later and see what has happened. If both want to stay marriged then it might happen. But if either wants to end the marriage then so be it. But I really believe the real marriage is over. She should move on. It has taken her a long time to make this decision to tell her husband and now she must go. If the husband has any brains he knows that and should hold on to the house and as much of their assets as he can for the sake of the children. This must have happened to a family somewhere somehow but as far as how they handled it I have no idea. The marriage is over. Matybe they can live together but I don't belive that is possible either. Just another opinion from a woman's viewpoit. Thanks.
This isn't a finish. Worse than the other renditions. And, no voting. Therefore written by a gutless wonder.
IF WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ADULTHOOD AND MARRIAGE
typical itself is a gauntlet runner supreme, TK U MLJ LV NV no stars available
When is a sequel not a sequel
chagrined: Thanks for the sequel that really wasn't a sequel. All you did was repeat and amplify the situation that Jim and Erica find themselves. I will say that you did it masterfully and your story was very well written. Surely you must have had an ending or solution to the problem in mind while you were writing your story. Why not share it with us the readers?
Well written, Well unfinished
Great dive into examining his immediate feelings.
Then it stops. Thunk. Gearshift is in Park.
No ending, no next step, no ...... All your chapter ( written well ) did was expound on his current emotional state. It didn't answer anything. It actually left me with more questions than the original tale.
Pretty pointless
It wasn't a sequel and did nothing to expand on the original. In fact it seems like some sort of self indulgent exercise for you to prove how clever you are.
Erica was honest....
but really tore him up. Maybe they'll stay together, maybe they won't. I think that there must have been a precipitating event and that she hasn't been honest about it despite claiming how hard it was to write. It, in my opinion, probably was much harder to read. He deserves a sexual partner and she has deprived him of one ... at least a life partner.
I don't know what you did if there is any truth to this at all. Whatever you chose was hard far harder than the self-centered, self-satisfying attitude of your wife.
I wish you well. I am indifferent to her plight.
I don't think she was honest.
She kept things from him, she spent time with her lover, maybe not sexual but I bet it was. She finally just decided to let him make the decision on whether to continue like they were or to let her be a lizard and him support her. I think that was the two options she had envisioned, hoping for the second one. She wasn't brave, she wasn't honest, what she was boiled down to a selfish woman who wanted everything without giving him anything. I think all of the histrionics were because he was talking about splitting up, gravy train gone. If she had any feelings or respect for him she would have told him, writing a letter is bullshit. Didn't she think of the kids? Didn't she realize that they could actually see and hear and think and come to their own conclusions about her sudden lifestyle change? Sudden, more bullshit. She had probably been seeing this "woman" the entire time and was sneaky enough to hide it. Can't see the husband ever rebounding from this, too big a blow to his equilibrium. And his ego. The prevailing thought on LW is that a man having an "ego" is a bad thing. Call it something else, a sense of self worth, a sense of your own abilities, confidence maybe. Women have it in abundance, why shouldn't men be allowed to have this.
no
something is wrong.
You dont become gay after 21 years together. She had children even.
A gay would not be telling him he is her life, she cant sleep without him. Yet doesnt want sex.
The way these stories are written makes no sense. After a few years of marriage perhaps, bit 21 years? nope. even if she was bi it would have popped up alot sooner.
She needs to see a pyschiatrist and a doctor. something is wrong here.
She is going to destroy her husband and her childrens lives. They will never recover from it, not ever.
Well, if she is into other women he needs to walk away
Whether or not the person who is cheating is cheating with the opposite sex or the same sex, it is still cheating. He best needs to cut his losses and walk away.
Cheater, Cheater!
This woman is a cheater. She may have never cheated yet, but she tried to cheat and the other party (man or woman) turned her down. The lesbian issue is just a smokescreen. I don't care if she is going to cheat with a man or a woman, it is still cheating. Why doesn't she just ask for a divorce then she can do what she wants. After the letter telling her husband how much he disgusts her, but wait...she really loves him. She doesn't love him and hasn't for a long time. Any guy after reading that letter would just get rid of her as soon as possible. The letter made it pretty clear what she thought of her husband. I don't understand him staying with her. That letter should have killed any love he had for her.
Fuck
You often hear about how people are astounded when someone turns gay. They don't turn gay. They were always gay or bi. Because their parents, society, or their fear dictated they must be straight, they lived a lie for umpteen years. at dome point they've had enough, can't take it anymore, or the decpetion slef betrayal is killing them.
What the closet escapers should say is, "I tried to make myself straight. I picked the best person I could find to help me do that. I love you, but I'm not right for you, and you aren't right for me."
RARE - A sequel @ par with the original.
I don't think there could be a better way of complementing your writing. An Author's first submission, parallel to Pat51's literary heights. Kudos.
Your extension of this emotional roller coaster from the male perspective was perfectly done. I'm glad that you avoided the typical macho knee jerk reaction on this very mature & sensitive issue.
However, I do agree with many of the commentators,especially Scorpio44, it needs an ending. A solution. Not because every story needs an ending, but more so because, as per your own admission, you have been through a similar situation.
Of course, I do understand your need for privacy,but personally I feel that this is one situation that demands all the help that a couple can get. Especially a truly loving couple. And there a lot more out there,with 'closets' being opened everyday, facing a similar dilemma.
It has been a long time since both the postings & the whole LGBT issue has gained a Quantum Leap after the 7/26 SCOTUS ruling in USA.
But the truth is that the emotional issues in situations like this remain, as yet,unanswered.
Nicely written... even though I loathe end it yourself stories
I don't want to end it myself. I am not Jim and I am not "you" and i haven't the context to end it myself and frankly felt cheated that you ran away from finishing it.
That I felt cheated is a compliment to your writing. I empathize with both characters and wanted to read more. Your use of 2nd person past tense was executed brilliantly and I hate 2nd person stories.
As a story fragment it was nicely done. As a story, you copped out.
Ah The Preference Continuum
"Jim, you know I can't sleep without you there."
If she's gay, she will want a woman instead of him, so this sentence is an admittance that she, like all of us, is just somewhere along the continuum. And she, like all of us, has to deal with whether or not to allow herself to desire people other than her spouse, whatever the gender. And my ending is that she gets help with herself.
I wish
I could rate this. 1*
Patricia51 Queen hater
I knew as soon as the name Patricia51 was invoked that this was going to be anti male.... She is the queen man hater cuck loving cunt with Blackrandi a close second.. If she is who you choose to spinoff then I feel badly for you and your talent.
@anon Patricia 51
Dude, how insecure are you. You should get help before the voices tell you to kill yourself
***
Like it or not, I found this to be fairly emotionless. Felt like the characters were on Prozac. Content and plot line was good. Still ...
I agree with anon!!!
Patricia51 is anti male, being a woman I see her slant and that's fine because after all she is a woman...... Anon who told someone to get help, you are just as sad and pathetic..... Good not great story, really did nothing to move the original along at all......
Well done
I found this a heartwarming and compassionate consideration of a major disturbance to a long-term relationship.
We all have to play the cards we're dealt, however difficult that might be.
Drew a predictable response from insecure redneck males but that's all good.
If only life were so simple or, should I say, simplistic.
Look forward to more.
Wistful
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