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by Egmont Grigor

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AnonymousAnonymousalmost 19 years ago
Well and Truely Said

I have read the comments that are added to the end of your stories with great interest. You sure do seem to attract a large amount of the "venomous anonymous" comments. Forget it, You're doing just fine. I, like you, have a strong feeling that a large segment of the thought police and the character assassins have never written anything more profound then their parents signature on their report card because their ability to use the English language is abysmal at best. So far I've been fortunate to largely escape the anonymous "creeps," but it could also be that they look my work over and that they've given up all hope for me. Keep writing what you will as I do enjoy most of your stories. Ronnie W.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 19 years ago
99% of everything is crap, one person said.

when you leave comments or email turned on for the hope of the 1% of useful critical reader stuff, you give yourself the work of going thru the other 99% (probably including mine!).

if you get too tired of the 99%, give yourself permission to take a break for a few stories, or all of them, and turn the feedback off. there is no law that says you HAVE to have comments.

another way to use comments is to just count the number of feedback as an indicator of how powerfully you affected readers, and not read the comments in detail. or just read the longer ones, they are usually the most thoughful.

or maybe you were just venting, or asking for more detailed critics - and didn't want suggestions.

thebulletthebulletalmost 19 years ago
Criticism of Critics and Criticism

First, it was Theodore Sturgeon, and he actually said "90% of everything is crap". He obviously felt there was far less crap out there than the critical poster.

"Get an editor" - this is one I've used myself from time to time. I generally give a pass to most writers, but when the quality of writing would have been slashed by my fifth grade teacher, I think the author really should get a second opinion before exposing his disorganized, poorly spelled, and grammatically incorrect thoughts to the benighted Literotica public.

I particularly love the stories that throughout the setup the grammar and spelling and punctuation are perfect. But when the moment of truth arrives (read sex), suddenly spelling and punctuation go out the window, and you have a paragraph that goes on and on and ... I guess the writer finds it difficult to type with one hand.

For every critic who is 'disappointed that you sunk so low', there are a dozen critics that wish you had sunk a bit lower. For me it's whatever floats your own personal boat, if you know what I mean. We're writing porn here, not Shakespeare.

"It is unacceptable to make married women into promiscuous sluts." - Hey, Egmont, if you write "Loving Wives" stories, you take the bitter with the batter. There are two warring groups reading those stories who are as bitterly antagonistic as any neo-Con and ultra-Liberal could hope to be. Whatever way you write, you are bound to draw the praise of one side and the ire of the other. Consequences/No consequences. Slut/no slut. Divorce/reconcilliation. It don't matter none. You're going to piss a bunch of people off. Learn to live with it.

cloacascloacasalmost 19 years ago
Go Egmont

I enjoy your writing for two main reasons: you use language well and each story is consistent in itself. If the story has archness, it stays that way. If it is more realistic, it doesn't veer into ridiculousness.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 19 years ago
Critical of (some) critics

Those who can't write become critics, at least in many cases. Don't you just love those who suggest you get an editor when their own comments are not well written? I used to think critics were really writing their own stories, based loosely on what I had written, and sometimes thought they protested too much because the story touched some aspect of their lives they'd rather have left unexamined.

The harmful thing is that enough negative comments, justified or not, will cause some writers (I'm one of them) to write in other venues.

This, from the author who used to be tonytony3 (the literotica email account associated with my user name is no longer valid)

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 19 years ago
Obtuse but Loveable

Betcha liked that eh critter. Well it is exciting (well interesting) to have an author of repute take the time to express [rant?] his feelings so openly. Few do and it is appreciated. Feel better?

Just a thought tho - Some writers are not really authors. They are without imagination (a fresh thought or angle), discipline (format, spelling, proper words) and the ability to entertain (talent, flow with style).

When an author has those plus intelligence, those who appreciate him/her want / expect more - perhaps more than is reasonable or the author wants to give. What is wanted?

The Police don't really want morality here - they want sensual Respect and a semblence of erotic Reality - failing respect they want the justice and consequence real life deals out every day. But the Police don't expect it from the one handed fuck and suckers. Guess that leaves you and other good authors who can and desire to do better - desire to have some credibility - who want or appreciate recognition for their displayed talents. Many want to grow perhaps in each of these aspects. They are competitive and seek approval as most of us do every day.

Also, I disagree with some who feel that this is just a porn site - how ignorant - how short sighted - read the catagories for crying out laud. More to the point, erotic is to porn like a slap is to being run over by a bulldozer. Is there porn here - of course, but most good authors wouldn't write that as most of this audience don't come here to be run over - most aren't jaded enough - yet or ever. Jeez, talk about a rant.

So author, while you choose what and how you write, we can only hope you maintain what is possible for you and other good authors. Selfishly, most of us come here to be sensually aroused and entertained in a semblance of reality with respect or consequence if reasonably called for. Many Good authors understand that - can do that and many want to thankfully!

Thanks again - sorry for the length - with high Regard

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 19 years ago
Critical Commenter

Oh, dear Egmont, so eager to please aren't you? What a cute little rant you had going there! I'm afraid I must tell you that you're not going to please everyone out here in cyberotica. 95% of comments are crap themselves and make no sense or bring any enlightenment or encouragement to the author that could improve their writing. Not only that, but any true Litster comes to recognize which atuhors write to their tastes and which don't. Repeat negative commenters who continue to read your stories after expressing repeatedly that they don't like them are idiots. Save yourself some distress, darling, and simply glance at the title and first 2-3 lines of a post. If it's positive or encouraging read on and if not skip it and go to the next. After all, no matter how many bitchy, complaining posts you get, you always have a fan in me;)!

QuineQuinealmost 19 years ago
A joyful romp through criticism

Hi... You obviously have a sense of humor about your work and don't take yourself too terribly seriously. At least I sense this in your comments here. Personally, I liked them. I thought they were pretty right on. Personally I don't see any point to even making the "Your story sucked" kind of feedback. I don't always like everything I read, but if I say anything, I try to make it cogent and helpful. I'm also a writer (non-fiction actually published in the now distant past) and love doing erotica, and so, like you, I am both sensitive to stupid criticism, and appreciative of the intelegent variety even if it isn't entirely flatering.

covey56covey56over 6 years ago
Anonymous

I wish this guy name anonymous was band from the site. Ever notice he seldom has a good coment. Just sayin!!!

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