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A Little More Insight
This chapter does provide us with a little more insight into this character. It give us a better picture of the who, what, when, and where. The why was handled very well in the last chapter. Since this chapter actually ends before the last chapter ended, I am still left with the feeling that the story finished rather abruptly and far too ambiguously.
As always, excellent writing.
Now We can guess
We know what happened and why it happened. This one removed any sympathy found at the end of the second.
Thanks for the story
Interesting
It looks like Julie's husband made the right decision. I wish this had been chapter 2.
Boyd
just another selfish whore
if there were problems she should have talk to him about them.this woman was vain, selfish and jealous of the baby.some women aren't mothers.stay away from this woman she is dangerous.
Re-run # 314 a
That's OK although not EROTIC to most there is that small army of non achievers out there who will have a orgasm each page as they vent their hate
Good character development
A great job of showing her mentality as she began her slide into depression.
Keep up the good work!
not consistent with previous chapter
Sex with Richard, while unsatisfying on the whole, was very good at its best, despite her assertions during the meeting that it was just plain bad. Sex with Tom, which she asserted to be wonderful at worst, was actually pretty bad at its best.
She talked about a fog from before the birth to the day after Tom left, but in this chapter the fog seems to have shortened to start at the period where Tom left the house or thereabouts.
All of this makes it more disturbing that he was pleased and relieved at all the crap she dumped on him at the shrink's place last chapter.
Thanks for the great story!
I think you do a good job and you have let us determine in our own minds what the future for these two hold
Please keep up your much-appreciated writing.
Strong Work Author
Plainly - Directly - You drive accross the plot path painting the characters and the reasons what and now why.
You are appreciated - in hopes of more at interval - With High Regard
Not really a value added story
Another well written story. It is just that there really isn't any new information given. Details about how bad a lover the kid is doesn't add any "meat" to the story. (no pun intended) I also think the flashback should have started at the examination three months prior to the birth because this isn't a case of post partum depression. I hope you will continue this story since I feel you have more to say and I am a sucker for a happy ending.
Don't know what to say.
Julie is a sick sick woman....
This chapter does not play well...because you have Julie acknowledging everything she had done with ambiquous clarity ...where Chapter 2...she exuded a firm dominant and confident attitude as if she knew she wanted to hurt him... but doesn't have a clue as to why...
It appears the author attempted a second stab at explaining what he could not explain in Chapter 2...too bad...because this chapter confuses me even more...
Redundant
I agree with Sandman1, when he states that this did not add any insights to her behavior that weren't already apparent in the first story. I, also, am a sucker for a happy ending, but in the case of this couple, I would say that the happy ending should be him finding happiness with someone else.
A bit more requited
TheCelt,
I enjoy your writing, and I even found this part interesting as you begin to develop a bit more of her character. I agree with Sandman, that we gain no new insights at this point. However, I am guessing that this part is simply the set up for more introspection on her part and then the final determination of whether or not this marriage makes it. I hope I am guessing right as I enjoy your writing.
Still, WHY did she hate him so much?
Post partum or not- (this is just a name of a diagnosis ), her hate and the intense need to hurt her husband are still a mystery to me. IMO it is best if you figure out in your own mind the main motivation for the main actions in the plot. Best of luck.
A Nice Filler
You provided a lot of background on Julie's betrayal. One idea for the next story is to provide this type of buildup before the husband or wife discovers the affair. Then the readers would wonder what the faithful spouse would do. As you presented it this story was anti-climatic (we knew about her illness from part 2).
I really had no sympathy for the Julie character after this story because actions speak louder than feelings or some illness. She should have gotten help as soon as she left that hotel room the first time she cheated on Tom.
Thanks for writing.
SleeplessinMD
Good, but not much added and still flawed
I disagree with Dynamite JAck on one point. He suggests that this "[shows] her mentality as she began her slide into depression." The fact of the matter is that the post-par tum depression should have begun a bit earlier. The depressed Julie at the end of the chapter doesn't fit (IMHO) with a post-partum scenerio. She seemed to be too even at the beginning. The guilt, vomiting, etc, seemed to be after the fact. You may know more about this than I do, but to me, Julie seemed to know exactly what she was doing and it was done out of spite. In that regard, I also agree with Kilgore: "her hate and the intense need to hurt her husband are still a mystery to me." I'm not sure you set up the nature of her depression early enough and clearly enough.
As I say, though, I am no expert on post-partum depression. I'm just glad you didn't jump on couches and suggest that Julie only need to take her multi-vitamins more regularly! (^_^)
Second comment. Stories published in this manner often come as they flow, but from the first three chapters, I felt a better flow would have been to have much of chapter 1 and Julie's Story flow as flashbacks with the doctor's office stuff as chapter three. The overall frame tale would be he consultation with the doctor. I have yet to read the Epilogue, but I suspect that it would work well where it is--as the final chapter. From a literary point of view, that was my only critique.
a sad story of a whore for a wife
no respect for weak hubby and up the the end she said she didn't care.he wasn't touching her anyway hubby share in the blame for not taking control of his home.she call him a wimp and he should have kick her ass out then.been sensitive to some women is sign of aweakness as they see it.a woman is a whore if she married and fuck around on her hubby.if she legally separate and fuck around with others that another story.
Good Story
Good story so far
As one writer wrote previously no woman cheats
by accident, it is all controlled and contrived. It doesnt matter how or why it was the act. She was a slut committing adultry several times. She intiated much of it herself. She ruined herself, her husband, her family, and her daughters mental state. As someone else said, trash is trash, always throw out the trash. A shame they had a child that way she will always be in his life, and, the girl will have to grow up knowing she comes from a broken home with a genetic mother who is/was mentally ill. One could argue from a philosophical veiwpoint that all cheaters are in some way mentally ill if they really wanted to.
Great story
You filled in the details. Great job. It is nice to see the husband not take any BS and do what is right. There are too many wimp hubby stories. The husband/father put his child first.
Good Job.
What an asshole that "anonymous" is... reads and reiterates the story and gives a zero??? What a wimpy impotent bastard he is. Does he think he is rating the performance of the cheating wife??? Get the fuck off this site if you don't like what you read here!
irchristo@aol.com
As one writer wrote previously no woman cheats
06/12/07 by Anonymous
by accident, it is all controlled and contrived. It doesnt matter how or why it was the act. She was a slut committing adultry several times. She intiated much of it herself. She ruined herself, her husband, her family, and her daughters mental state. As someone else said, trash is trash, always throw out the trash. A shame they had a child that way she will always be in his life, and, the girl will have to grow up knowing she comes from a broken home with a genetic mother who is/was mentally ill. One could argue from a philosophical veiwpoint that all cheaters are in some way mentally ill if they really wanted to.
Depression or not, this shows a planned, careful,
humiliation, betrayal, and withdrawal from her husband, and a planned withdrawal from her daughter. It is done as shown in a carefully planned manner, not in fits and starts as one would expect from such a "mentally ill" woman. What we are really seeing here is a pure slut finally justifying to herself her right to be a slut and commit adultry. Actually she should make a very good girl working in a whore house except she is a bit old for that.
very poor excuse
she is not 'depressed'. damn, i hate it when people use it as an excuse especially when they have no knowledge of it.
no random actions
she acted more than once, with the thoughtfulness of her actions. apparently there was the failure of the brain to perceive what the senses showed her, dubious.
no mental state deficiency, rather the arrogance [misplaced].
Oh poor me, if I cry a lot, and look bad every one
will have sympathy for me, they after a period of psychobabble I can be cured and everyone will forget and forgive and I can be safe in the world again. Heck it wont even be my fault. And my plan to get my boss fired and get his job will pay off. At least I didnt do like the woman in Texas and drown my kid, then go for psychobabble, then get free to live without the drags on my life. And good old Tom did just as I expected him to and gave me every penny I would have gotten anyway. Hehe.
oh!
this part of your story suck's. why beat a dead horse? why not take the story on down the road they were starting on? her story was 'bs!' oh! i get it! this 'bs' part of your story gave you a chance to show your knowledge of women's thought process? huh? any man that will say he understand's a women is 'oh such a fool, he be!' oh you poor fool!
I'm a fan, but this story is really lacking something!
I gave it Five Stars all through the story, for your writing ability only. Even with the Epilogue plus Julie's Story, you still left us hanging!!!
Sequence
First, number these in Narrative Chronological Order. It is useless to read Julie's Story after the epilogue, as I just did.
Secondly, while the story is powerful, generating reader outrage and pity, and the subjective portrayal of Julie's psychotic state after she's discovered is surprising in stories of this kind, and her confusion persuasive, and the generic account of her postpartum depression and hostility is sound, I still didn't grasp why "hurt" her husband, and why regard Rachael as a "brat." And the hiatus of two years before she seems sane and penitent and so on is no help. There's an unfilled and unexplained gap leaped by faith, not a sequencing of comprehension, as if she were two different characters. I assume it was because you were interested primarily in how her closed and unresponsive meanness after the baby's birth seemed to him, more in her apparebt betrayal and his hurt than in her management of remorse and her cure. Fair enough, but then shape the narrative differently, and go for a hopeful rather than a demonstrated reconciliation. We can take it!
It was an okay story but the author did not convince us that this slut whore wife was worth keeping alive.
Ok, celt - you painted the situation as hopeless as it can get. WTF - why in world of plausible explanation would any self-respecting male allow that slut wife to continue to live? Was the daughter better off without the slut - obviously "yes". Oh yea, the husband let her live because he might go to jail for shooting the whore [should have shot the whore]. Per the slut; "No revenge, no remorse - just a "sorry" I was stressed out at the time so could you please leave me with the house & furnishing so I can profit from this fake marriage?" Author - bad & lousy story. Keep trying!
Suicide would be an appropriate ending.
A nice rope around the neck and a slow strangulation while she thinks about her sins.
The biggest tragedy to this story is that the chapters came out in the wrong order, even to the point that the third chapter is listed as chapter 02. I also misfortune to read the epilogue before I read this chapter
There was also several spelling mistakes in this chapter, a sign that the author is becoming a little weary
Was this chapter necessary? All we learned from it was that Julie wore a red bra underneath a white blouse, and nobody would do that.
All in all, if you tagged the snippet about reconciliation from the epilogue onto the end of the chapter listed as "chapter 02" & leave out the bit from the epilogue in which Julie explains her actions, which she's already done in the chapter listed as "chapter 02", and delete all of this chapter, you'd have a good - though unerotic - story, though it was never erotic in the first place
ONE BELIEVES IN FAMILY VALUES
the other does not. The vows while not sacred do compel a choice. TK U MLJ LV NV
Let me make this (I hope helpful) criticism.
1. You left the story unfinished. I read strictly for entertainment and expect the author to bring a conclusion to the story, not just leave one of the characters "hoping" that things might work out. You are the author, write the story.
2. Julie's Story is a gratitutious replay of the previous chapters only making the point that she did not enjoy the sex and to emphasize the fact that she was mentally unbalanced. I don't know why you thought that was necessary, we got it in the first three chapters.
3. I want to say that I really liked the story but wish you had put an ending to it. Again, you are the writer but I hope this has told you how it affected me. Good luck, please keep writing.
that's it ??!!
Huh.. that was the explanation? A moment of insanity!! Calling of her own child a brat? Bullshit. What a disgrace in the name of a Mother.
This sort of thing happens with women during and after pregnancy. Its hard to understand like most other mental illnesses. I can't say I know how she feels because I never went through it while I was pregnant. But I understand the reason as to how the hormones has an effect on women. Julie knew what she was doing was wrong but she wasn't strong enough to ask for help. Her mind was too focused on taking out her anger on her husband.
#2 WHEN THE CATS AWAY...THE BIRD PLAYS
until the rooster struts home with no cock-el-doodle-do, TK U MLJ LV NV
1/5 learn to write something other than self cuck... 1/5 to everything even the stuff outside of this shit
Oh, yes, poor me. I was depressed and don't remember anything!
I am a psych nurse and am familiar with post-partum depression etc. These women that refuse all help or offers of help from their family, their husband, their church just fuck around until they get caught and suddenly blame it on the depression. I am sure there are some legitimate cases but too often it is used as an excuse by some bitch who wanted to fuck around, she was unhappy about having gotten pregnant or that she did not have as large a house as her women friends or her husband did not kow tow to her every whim. I would guess that about 20% is legitimate and 80% is an excuse for being a spoiled slut. And that's my professional opinion of over 40 years of nursing and 10 years of knocking around in the world prior to entering nursing school. Forgive me for facing facts and reality and I apologize to the legitimate cases of PPD.
What a pile of crap.
What a pile of crap, I did not know what I was doing because I was depressed. This story line does not work because she made the choices to return to work and to cheat on her family. The idea that she must be really sick was far fetched, gee she must be sick to do what she did. Give us a break she made all these choices so she needs to own up to them. This only rated a "1", she was not sick in the head she just need a good excuse for her actions.
an act of insanity
yet she did it again.
and refused counseling.
wtf
Why di you write this chapter, it was almost exactly the same as chapter 1 except from Julie's pov. Didn't need it, superfluous.2**
Enjoyed it
Thanks for the offering.
I agree
with Bfreetorun. I am not a mental health professional but I deal with people behaving badly and blaming bad behavior on health and other issues is just a silly excuse for a cover up. Good wives and mothers don't cheat. In fact, this story is insulting to people who really do suffer from mental illness. Poor character causes cheating. Selfishness to be exact. I have met many people who suffer with mental illness that I would trust long before the cheaters I know.
Let's hear it for the feminists and the "poor, depressed women"!
No matter what the woman does to her marriage all she has to do is pull out the "I was suffering from post-partum depression" or "I was suffering from depression due to the trauma of having a hangnail" or some such garbage. Admittedly there are real reasons for depression and for fucking around on their husbands BUT let a man fuck around and you hear "That DOG, he needs to be shot" or castrated or something, no matter if he was in an accident with injury, even a head injury to possibly explain his actions or personality change. It is ALWAYS the man's fault and the women always have a legitimate (?) excuse for their messing up and their adultery. Don't get me wrong, I love women, I just get tired of the double standard of judgment where they nearly always get the breaks or the benefit of the doubt. End of rant!
I commented when I read it the last time, after reading it again today I was impressed to make an additional comment.
Seems softer...
...than the Julie of Ch. 01 & 02. Meh!
@befreetorun and dugna ,i lost my wife because of suicide suffering from post partum,the things she did because of that are undiscribable,after seeing a shrink for months and facing her demons she finally comitted suicide ,she just couldn't cope with what she had done ,your" expert" opinion on the matter is really "refreshing"
Yep, sometimes finding out why you
did something and having the epiphany that you were the one who caused something to happen to someone else when you weren't in your right mind is too much for you to bear. And I am so sorry that that happens to otherwise good people. It's why I don't believe in letting someone get out of a murder charge because of the insanity plea. What happens to the person when sometime during their treatment regiment they realize that they killed their parents or their children or whatever? How do they live with themselves after that? If they can live with themselves then they aren't cured or they weren't insane to start with. Not a good situation to be in.
I don't understand where thecelt was trying to go with this part of the story, but it didn't add anything to the narrative.
Damn
Her craziness was her own fault. And she'll pay for it.
Oh. Poo!
"I was depressed, confused, lonely, had my period, was jealous of the baby, needed more attention from hubby, hubby didn't make enough money, the house needed repairs, the sink was stopped-up, the mortgage was due, I was going thru menopause, etc., etc,. etc!"........ and THAT'S why I cheated on my husband! If ANY one falls for that baloney, they are mentally challenged! Not ONE of those reasons (or any other), is an excuse to cheat, PERIOD! Get a fucking divorce and that takes care of the situation. After the divorce, you are single and can't be accused of cheating, You can pick up some guy(s) in a bar, go home and fuck all night with no cheating! Problem solved!
I Understand There Was A Posting Issue, But...
After Part 1 & 2, we just didn't really need this.
It was good as far as it went, it just didn't add much.
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