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A Day Early Ch. 02

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by Average-Joe12/20/05

Good enough ending

I liked that they still divorced even after the quick fix excuse was presented. Made Tom seem like a real person who's feelings had dried up after a long period of abuse.

You made Tom into a nice guy by not letting him want to see her destroyed but made him realistic as well. He wasnt too perfect like we see in many of these stories. Just because we found out the wife has/had issues, doesnt mean the husband cant have them too. After all, he was the one getting fucked over by her for so long even if she wasnt in control of all her facilties.

Now too the bad stuff :)

I think you went into too much psychology. As I said, it was nice that Tom didnt just use her diagnosis as 'And we lived happily ever after' button, but it was still too much from my pov. It might be realistic from a shrinks persepctive (I dont know since Im not one) and it might even be true in an absolute sense (odds are longer on that though), but it doesnt really fly in the story imo. Maybe its because Im an unsophisticated reader/thinker, but it detracted from the story for me.

Also seemed like everyone was pushing Tom around a bit too much. This is just my opinion/personality, but it seems he should have reacted more strongly to what had to be perceived by him as people trying to tell him what to do (mother, shrink, wifes boss, etc). Im not saying he should have ranted and raved and come across as a total asshole. That might be a realistic reponse but I do like the characters in these stories to be better than me even though I hate it when they become overly accomidating. Just seemed like he didnt react much to everyone trying to manipulate him when he should have been on the edge emotionally.

All in all though, I thought it was a good ending and I liked this chapter better than the first. Thanks again for writing.

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by Kanga4012/20/05

Sorry

but the psychobabble path definitely doesn't do it for me, especially when it's so far from any sort of realism.

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by 12/20/05

Well, I disagree!

Certainly my perogative! I thought this chapter did a wonderful job of bringing out emotions. The psychology was minimal and appropriate.

The writing was excellent and pace good. It was a great read!

I think you show a lot of growth as a writer.

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by thebullet12/20/05

Yeah, I liked it too

I'm willing to buy into the 'psychobabble', if you will. Not everything is as cut and dried as they appear to be in most of these LW stories, anyway. Let's face it, Julie was just plain nuts. Seems to me that both of them would benefit from understanding what had really been going on in their marriage since before the birth of their child.

Good writing, good story, unlikely to end here.

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by 12/20/05

Talk to Brook Shields

Post Partum Depression can and does cause terrible behavior in women. It's definitely not psychobabble of any sort. Women have been known to go so far as to kill their babies in the midst of their mania. You are doing a wonderful job of capturing the unknown quality to the illness. A+

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by Anonymous12/20/05

TOO many problems with story!

But thanks for writing.

Julie is sick...very sick...and the author doesn't help by confusing the issues all the more...

Her coherence in the first chapter...to her coherence in the second chapter is a "pick and choose"....that she remembers that it was only four times...to hating her daughter...how many times [can't recall] to loving/hating her hubby how many times [can't recall] to tellimg him he knew about the affair and accepted it [how many times] to conveniently explaining her affair was meant to hurt him and yet meant nothing...as Tom put it "She was almost reciting something she had written in advance".

Tom is correct to distance himself from her...she is sick and he should protect his daughter. Richard took advantage of a sick woman ...the affair is really meaningless to the story since the time frame is rather short compared to the total period of her illness...it may have provided an awake up call for both... but she was a goner with or without the affair...She was spiraling and still is until she hits rock bottom...

It is amazing how many men and woman exist with the same mental problems...and co-exist with society who cannot distinquish them from the rest.

The author distanced himself from falling into a trap of his own making... Tom and Julie have to re discover themselves and not rely on a past love...there wasn't any...

Julie can hate herself forever or move forward and Tom should remain indifferent to her and move forward. If Rachel wishes to know her mother, she can do so when she is older.

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by wetapap12/20/05

Ok, now for my lousy

two cents worth. I had a lot of problems as I was reading the second chapter of this story. After reading the comments, I see a mixture of feelings from the other readers that reflect some of my own.

The comment I am about to make involved mentally rehashing the story several times to try and determine the reason it didn’t set well with me. I knew it wasn’t the author, or his writing style, he is one of my favorites and has proven himself more than once.

The problem lies in the “psychobabble”, not in the reality that this type of problem exists, most of us acknowledge that fact. It would have been acceptable to me if Julie's psychiatrist had met with Tom and informed him that Julie was suffering from sever depression. The meeting between Tom and Julie would have been acceptable; all the Julie confessed would also have been acceptable.

I finally concluded what was not acceptable to me was the author portraying the knowledge and understanding to enter the mind and know the thoughts and feelings of someone suffering sever depression.

We can see the disease and the results it generates. I don’t know if anyone is qualified to claim the ability to know the thoughts of a severely depressed person or how their mind functions or operates.

It could even possibly be dangerous for us to even pretend to be able to do this. We could create false illusions and concepts in others pertaining to a very serious problem.

A well written story, very disturbing, but I remain a fan always.

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by Anonymous12/20/05

Interesting

But strange and unsatisfying ending. You call that the final chapter, but you left so much hanging.

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by Anonymous12/20/05

I think it needs more

I don't think it has a proper end and it needs closure.

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by Nightowl2212/20/05

Well, it's an ending

But not a really satisfactory one. He should recognize she was sick and not responsible for her actions.

The divorce proceedings should be pulled. Counselling should begin with both of them as soon as her shrink says she is ok.

A lot of weight needs to be given to the offsprings mother and that just isn't being done by him. And obviously not very much in the whole country.

I personally feel this should be a marriage that could be saved.

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by Anonymous12/20/05

not an ending

how much did he get from the bank for the sexual harrassment of his wife... what happens to him and rachel who does he find as a mommy for his little girl... she needs a mommy.....do they sell the house or does his ex wife move back in ... can she afford it on her own and pay his half...does she ever get well or sink further into depression when it becomes final that she has lost her husband and child...sounds like a recipe for suicide ...sorry this needs an ending i can appreciate how he feels and richard deserves some blame as yes he was her superior and i feel just getting fired was not enough also ... to many loose ends

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by Anonymous12/20/05

WHAAAAT?

Gee! This story ended like matbe the author got sick of writing it.

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by Anonymous12/20/05

good writer,but thanks for nothing

you didn't finish this story like the writer i read before.you cheated on your fans.

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by fumunda cheeze12/20/05

Julie

used the old bullshit story seen too many times in fantasy stories and in real life too. Reminds me of the goofy bitch in Texas that drowned her kids and the one in Carolina that rolled her car with the kids in it off in a lake and drowned them.

He is a hell of a lot better off without Julie and her fucked up mantal problems. He is protecting his daughter by keeping her away from her mother. I think supervised visits might be in order, but full time with the little girl could result in the little girl being harmed or even killed if the sick bitch went out of her tree again.

This woman would in my estimation be a good candidate for involuntary sterilization. She showed that she would not do what the shrink told her when she met with her husband.

It was not explained in the story what the reason, (except to hurt her husband) for the sex. She blamed the sex with her husband for her problem but the sex with her boss posed no problem for her.

I too, wondered about the abrupt ending. Maybe the author just forgot to put (to be continued) at the bottom of the last page. He or she did the same at the end of the first installment. when I stored the story to my files, I entered it as a finished story.

I for one hate it when an author does that. It takes very little effort to write "to be continued" or "The End" on a story.

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by Anonymous12/20/05

Dumb readers

Have you no patience readers? Have you no brains?
Readers clamor for "the next part" and then complain bitterly when ot arrives. Readers demand an ending and then declare "that was no ending".
Let the writer tell the story and the reader read it. Say "Thanks for writing" and then whatever else you need to say. If the story was not to your liking, go read someone elses stories.

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by K.K.12/20/05

Good Story but Has Problems

This story is well written and held my interest but it had some big problems. I don't know how so many readers seem to have missed the following problems.

Story Quote:
"My name is Bill Montgomery and I am now almost 40. Julie and I were married shortly after we both graduated from college."

In chapter two or husband seems to have changed his name from Bill to Tom.

Story Quote:

"The weekend went by so quickly. We made love several times over the next two days and as we got to know what the other liked, we enjoyed our lovemaking even more. That weekend sealed our fates; we were meant to be together forever.

That was just over 5 years ago last week. We had celebrated our anniversary that evening by going out to dinner while my mom watched the baby."

According to this quote from the story the couple had been married just 5 years when this story takes place. In the first quote above we are told that the couple got married shortly after getting out of college and that the husband (Bill Montgomery) is now 40 years old. That would suggest that the husband was 35 years old when he got married. This is not supported by the rest of the story.

Didn't anyone else notice these things?

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by Anonymous12/20/05

post partem

Like all of thecelt's stories this was very well written and kind of heartbreaking, but post partem depression, which is apparently wifes diagnosis, does not make for a very interesting or erotic story. the Ct. Yankee

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by allforall12/20/05

To the next

A rational discussion of a sad event. I just know there must be another chapter here somewhere Thankyou for the story so far

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by hammer1712/20/05

Hmm!!

Well now, I must say once again Bravo, can hardly wait till the next installment........

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by Anonymous12/20/05

Bravo? Not!

The only reason I would say "Bravo" is because the story is over and, hopefully, done with.

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by Risq_00112/20/05

Welp, looks like you split the camps here

I "still" feels like a reconcillation story (probably one as an epilog later (^_^)) but some folks seem to feel that if she has a mental problem that the husband is more to blame if he doesn't forgive the wife after it's publicly made known.

I'm not sure if I buy that. I mean you did a pretty good job in the first story of showing a husband that was concerned enough to try and work everything thing through with his wife. You wrote him trying to do everything short of having her kidnapped in the night and taken to a shrink to have her evaluated against her will. She wouldn't do it. She chose to cheat on her husband instead. Then after her breakdown you put everyone in the postion to start telling the husband how bad she's going to feel after she got better. The second story really looked like the everyone was making the husband out to be the bad guy by proxy.

What if the wife had a drinking problem, and the husband after years of being unable to get the wife to get help divorced her. Some how I think most of the folks who are always going for reconcillation (save the hardcore "nothing warrents a divorce" crowd), would have understood. But its almost because of the mystery surrounding mental illness that a lot of folks feel that nothing a mate does should drive the other off. I'm not quite sure how I personally feel about that.

And I don't think that Richard took advantage of her as some folks suggest. Just because she had a mental illness there isn't a sign around her neck that said "Mental illness". How was he to know if either she didn't tell him or he wasn't around her during her bad times. As she said in the second story, he didn't force her, she went willingly. All he knew was that he found a willing playmate. Even her boss didn't know she was having personal and mental problems.

I know that folks often want a villian to transfer the blame too so that the wife (or husband) isn't really to blame, but thats not fair in that case. It takes two people to cheat, and just because one hides a mental illness doesn't make it all the other persons fault. What I got from the story was that a husband was at the end of his rope and a wife that wasn't intrested in getting help till she managed to drive the husband way. Only then was she intrested.

It was a good story, but the techo-babble really did hurt the story though. For me it seemed almost like it was mainly used as a tool to explain away what the wife was up too while she was cheating. And I'm sure that wasn't the intent though.

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by Anonymous12/20/05

Interesting! Author, what do you think he should.

do?
This is a very interesting story. I also like the way the author has handled it. The woman is clinically ill. The marriage vows say sickness and health. Even though she is ill, she shattered the vows. The question is what should he do. It is not reasonable nor humane to ask a man to ignore what she did. Yet he also has a vow to uphold. There is also the safety of the child. I hold the husband in that Houston case, where the mother murdered her children, very much responsible for their deaths.

I'm also not clear that the author has accurately portrayed the illness. The story is well written and I very much enjoyed it, but the accuracy of the illness does come into question. I have difficulty understanding how a woman can function at a high level in the business world and still be not responsible for her actions in her marriage. Again, a however, in a story we have to accept the illness the way the author's authority figures present it. The doctor says she's sick, so she's sick!

I don't believe in not guilty by reason of insanity, I believe in guilty but insane. Both recognize that the person is mentally ill, but one seems to ignore the consequences of what was done. Morally and I think for his own mental health he needs to release his anger at his wife, and help with her treatment. I think this is a type of forgiveness. However, I'm not at all clear that he owes his wife a resumption of the marriage. I don't see that on moral or mental health grounds, unless she repents. Not that she is sorry or regrets what she did, but repents, and tries to fix it.

The real problem in this marriage is we don't know if the wife will recover to the point to try to repair what she has done. We don't know what is best for the child. Were I to find myself in this situation, I would hope that I would put the divorce plans on hold. I would want to try to fulfill my obligation to my wife to keep her "in sickness." However, if she terminal (can't restore what she broke) I would not feel any moral requirement to stay. Indeed, I think I should attempt to establish a new life for the sake of our child. I would morn the non-physical death of my wife, and my marriage. I would try to focus my justifiable anger on the SOB who took advantage of her. I hope I would donate to research in to cures to spare others. A very good story. Interesting problem.

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by Joesephus12/20/05

That was Joesephus mess up again!

The long comment about what should he do was from me.

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by Anonymous12/20/05

Too many problems here....

For K.K.: you are not the only one who recognized the obvious inconsistency with ages and dates. I found it quite annoying.

The obvious error in the math was indicative of very poor editing. When you write a story that covers a range of years then you have to check the math being expressed in order for the story to be credible. However, it was not just the math. I missed the two names for the husband. Is he Bill Montgomery or Tom Montgomery? Again, they point to very poor editing.

As far as the wife’s problem is concerned, we do not know is she has nor had post partem depression. While it is mentioned in the story, there is no declaration by any doctor in the story that this was her malady and the basis for her sudden change in personality.

If you are going to write about post partem depression then say so, don’t beat around the bush about it; and if this story has that as the central problem with the wife then you as the author need to do your homework. Do some research on the subject before using it in a story. I do not think you made a good case here for depression of any kind on the wife’s part.

This story was uncooked. I suspect that we will see a chapter 3 since you do not normally leave stories hanging like this. However, this thing is such a mess up to this point I would not both trying to clean it up with another chapter unless you want to rework and resubmit the entire sotry.

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by Thruster912/20/05

The Final Chapter?!?

That's what the index subtitle for this story says, yet nothing has been resolved except that everybody is miserable and trying to get on with their lives. We don't even really know the reason it happened. Why write it if there is no actual ending?

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by Anonymous12/20/05

Interesting

You should follow up this story with a conclusion. You might want to re-post the whole story after you do some editing.

Boyd

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by louguy3512/20/05

Thruster9 is right

Thruster9 is absolutely correct. Why write a story if you do not intend to write an ending? This story is just another in a long list of stories by Lit.com writers who do not seem to be able to finish a story. This, apparently, is a Lit.com fad, but it really indicates that the writers either do not plan and construct their story plots very well, or that they are too lazy to spend time writing a worthy ending.

Also, there are many errors and inconsistancies in the story, as written, to further suggest a lack of attention to detail (or laziness). I know that these stories do not make money for the writers, but one would think that a certain pride in one's writing would cause the writers to pay more attention to both grammatical and factual correctness. These things determine how easily a story can be read, and ultimately, how good the story is.

Will there actually be an ending that ties up the loose ends in the story and completes the development of the characters?

Who knows?

Cheers!

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by Anonymous12/20/05

Finish it!!!

You are to good an author to leave a story with such an unsatisfactory ending,so please FINISH IT.

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by Anonymous12/20/05

Emotional Crisis - Cast and Readers

First of all either by design or just being human (sometimes without detailed calculation) this story was a fine effort Author! Knitting errors aside - still a very fine fabric. Put it away people - there is a purpose in all this. Think about it.

It depicted a woman shocked into apparently awakening from being in a bad place where she has done things against her previous character but over a prolonged period. She has also refused all meaningful efforts by a spouse who wanted to discuss thier situation but was frustrated by her confrontational decision of inaction.

There was no psycobabble - there was a skeleton painting of a necessary (to the story) viewpoint from her, him and the doctor to try to understand the what and why which isn't really clear or acceptable to either yet or perhaps never.

It is easy to discern from the comments who hasn't had the bad fortune to suffer through a infidelity / seperation / divorce. Much is never really understood in detail - reactions are humanly frail and faulty. Anger, pain, loss and personal failure feelings at the onset and for some or all time prevails over previous normal feelings and rationalities.

It isn't ever so cut and dried as some of you want or apparently need. These are prideful dramatically hurt humans not machines - not rote computers. Children, personality traits and past histories affect or govern more than expected or wanted. It is never pretty or totally fair for many reasons - just like life eh!

Where is the author going? Does he owe us anything? Can we look at the facts provided and project what we would do or have done - why surely so but it's scary. We who have been there know that what you think you would have done and what really would have happened are/were two different things.

So far there are nearly 30 comments of some variance - of some provoked written thought - some very deep and some quite gutteral - much like life eh.

As to the non-wrapped up tidy package many need or desire, many similar scanarios from life end at chapter one - some at chapter 2 and few go to an end + or -. Why? Who wants more or the endless pain of details - certainly not all of us. We have been fucked over and only now care to survive and go on. Let the faulty party suffer through the issues they created - fuck them!

NOW IF YOU ARE THE FAULTY PARTY its different eh. The why is usually understood but the consequences weren't really examined to the depth as they must now. You have two hurdles - your own and your spouses. Is it worth it? Is it really? Go through the pain of exposure and shame of what you did and why. The answers often times are different at the end than they were at the onset if there was much prior consideration at all. Getting away with it, getting even or just selfish wants "were" are all reasons but not in retrospect or you would have just divorced / period and saved all the hassle. Dealing with it and going on is a great concept - doing it is more than anyone can imagine.

Author - you are appreciated - forget the nervous quibling and those who can't stand a non-finished non-detailed family breakdown package - neither can the stories or lifes participants but they must - to go on. Very Provoking! Very much like life!

Thanks again - With Very High Regard

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by gizzmo30112/20/05

Good

good very good, Please write a good ending for this one

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by Ronnie Wachuka12/20/05

You've certainly aroused the troops

Celt:
I like the story because I have a cousin who had PPD. The story I got from the cousins who were close to her was that it wasn't pretty and some very strange behaviors occurred before the shrink was able to square her away. Her only saving grace was that she was able to hang unto her marriage and family, though it took a long time to restore "normalcy" to the family. I also think it needs a chapter 3 for resolution, A good write. Thank You. Ronnie W.

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by Anonymous12/21/05

Okay some questions answered

I like the way this is going. Some questions answered but like life, some are left hanging. I would like to see a conclusion to this, but I am okay with it ending here if that is what the author intends. We shall see Thanks for your efforts

JimDinMN

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by Anonymous12/21/05

The comment in the story title was final chapter

The comment along with the story title said the final chapter. So if that's true the author has no plans to write a conclusion. Although some part of me would like a continuation another part acknowledges that for some stories letting the reader supply their own endings makes sense....

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by fumunda cheeze12/21/05

To K.K.

I noticed the discrepency in name change and real time too but failed to comment. Thanks for bringing it out to the rest of the commenters.

As you are aware, I love to hold an author to the details set forth in the plot.

You are the best author I have ever seen for paying attention to details in all your stories.

Gary

Have a good one

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by H20wader12/21/05

it is good

you did a good job, Celt. there is no rule tthat you shoulh write more. the Pscho babble was ok for me but then i have a degree in that kind of stiff

a solid %

iam the H20wader

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by silkmaze12/21/05

Sequel

You're just leaving it like that??? Come on, one more chapter.
You need to finish it properly.

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by Anonymous12/21/05

Good writing but...

the premise of the story seems flawed. First, this happened to the wife because the OB/GYN told her that she had to begin to be very careful for the last 3 months. This advice is pretty typical especially in high risk premature births. You would think that she would come to her senses when she was caught but no she continues the cheating bitch routine until he left. It seems like more a dual personality split than post partem depression.

Then the tone of the story changes to blame the husband. Huh! He realized something was wrong and tried to fix it. There was also the sense that all should be forgiven because she was off her rocker.

The marriage vow in sickness and health applies to what is best for the spouse. Marriage to Tom was the root cause of her illness (notice she came to her senses after he left) so in keeping with the spirit of the vow he should divorce her. Otherwise she would have continued to cheat, lie and pursue self destructive acts to strike out at Tom and their child.

The next question is what is next? The best course of action is to help her to recover from her illness and go their separate ways to jointly raise their child. There is no way there should be a reconcillation even after the reasons for the illnesss is known.

Why not you ask? First, their love was not strong enough for her to trust her husband and seek help. Second, the emotional damage done was huge. She can remember details about her affair but she can not remember her love for her husband and child. Third, the level of disrespect for Tom was quite evident throughout this entire period. According to her the reason she started the affair and had bad sex was to strike back at him. Was she delusional to think that somehow he had a clue to her unfaithfulness?

Factiod: Both Richard and Julie would have been fired. Richard for the obvious sexual relationship with a subordinate. She would have been fired because she defrauded the company (took wages for non-existent work). Their antics was simply bad for business and mental illness or not she would have been held more responsible than as portrayed in the story.

As to whether you have anything more to the story or not it is your call. Perhaps after she is well they can start a new relationship because she sure detroyed this one.

Thanks for an excellent read!

SleeplessinMD

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by peggytwitty12/21/05

You are still writing great stories.

I feel that Tom’s Dad and/or Mom would be more on their sons wave length of dump the bitch and save our grandchild.
I also have a problem with Tom wanting to reach out and comfort his so-called poor pathetic wife at their meeting. She has taking all his self-respect to the lowest level, and he doesn’t want to see her hurting? This guy must not have any ego at all. Wimp!
I hope in the final resolution he shows some backbone and remembers he is a man who had his heart ripped out by the worst betrayal.
If there was to be any reconciliation it would take a lot of time and he would have to really have some control of their life for a long period of time. Of course there is no relationship if they eventually cannot get past her cheating. In real life I would guess that would be at least a 60/40 chance of divorce.
There are so many great comments made that I agree with.
These are just my comments and you do a great job so these are my knee-jerk ramblings.

By the way as far as some of the comments on some age and name problems they were brought up after chapter one in the comments. Some of you might enjoy reading those comments in chapter one.

Just reading the story is very enjoyable. The number of comments you have received says a lot about how thought provoking your stories are. Most of the comments appreciate your writing and the critiques are for the most part well thought out. This I hope you take as a compliment to raise so much genuine interest. I do hope you continue this story but of course that is strictly up to you.
Thanks for an enjoyable read.

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by Anonymous12/21/05

Ok story..no ending...

I suppose one can live with an incomplete or open ended ending but I'd prefer to see where it goes. Oh well.

To the anon on page 2 who wrote:" There is also the safety of the child. I hold the husband in that Houston case, where the mother murdered her children, very much responsible for their deaths. "

You're either a woman or a man who's not had his eyes opened to reality and supports "women firsters" blindly. Sure, I could see hoping, thinking, praying that the father could see things were bad and would get the kids to safety. The problem is, he's human, not a mind reader. Another problem would be, the court system these days. He'd have a hell of a time getting his kids away legally even with her record of being nuts. He'd be just as likely accused to be kidnapping them and lose custody to her or the state. The most important aspect to my mind, in that Texas case where mum drowned her 5 kids was this.. HER DOCTORS RELEASED HER AS OK TO RETURN HOME. I think the man will face enough for the rest of his life doubting himself, wondering if he could have done something different to save his kids. Stop trying to pull blame off the woman who did the acts or the doctors who (being human) sadly failed to see she wasn't ok either.

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by Anonymous12/22/05

Celt, nice job.

Thecelt,

Nice job, apart from some of the inconsistencies that KK noted, I like how you have treated a very complex issue in a ambiguous way. Life is like that. I hope there is a sequel because I am always interested in where the author would take the characters.

I liked the parents response because actually it is more real. Defend the child but recognize that they liked/loved the spouse. In all I thought your writing caught the tenor and mood of this very well. And as usual, it caused a mixed response, which to my mind is a great thing. You are causing people to think, and that is ALWAYS good.

Keep up the work, and if you are inclined do add more about these characters.

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by Anonymous12/22/05

Don't Know About Y'all, But

I have my shrink stand on alert, y'know, in case I get myself into some TwilightZone activities and found myself waking up to reality!

I said to him: "Just get ready to come over talk to me when I am in deep shit, okay? Night or day, I don't care. Just be ready! After all, I pay you big money; you are to see me if or when I see and tell me what I am doing wrong, Okay?"

Of course, I was not joking, either. If a shrink can't tell me what the fuck I am doing wrong, fucking around or not, then why do I or YOU pay him, pay them, big bucks, right? And I'd fire them, too, and go on to the next shrink, if the one I have can't solve my mental problems for me! That's what shrinks do, right?, they have medical liscense to not only probe our heads, go into our subconscious and tell us what's wrong in our psychosocial make up, but also give us strong and REAL medication!, unlike marriage counselors and others who can't write druge prescriptions,,,

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by Anonymous12/25/05

the meeting should not have gone well

For over a year Tom has been trying to get through to her, to save his marriage. Nothing got her attention. He was completely powerless. Now she insists on a meeting which he must attend so she can give her spin. And she walks out before he can say a word, leaving him completely powerless. That has to be very depressing. And what did she say that was so encouraging? The love making with him was great. He, himself, told us that it wasn't love making, it was sex, and barely that. It was a notch above masturbation. He recalled that it was "terrible" and at first he couldn't even perform. She angrily allowed him to do it. She doesn't have very high standards. And if she had no interest in it or him during this whole time, how could it be great? That's just spin to make him feel better when there is no reason for him to. The sex with Richard sucked. Who cares? That makes it better? She doesn't love Richard. So why did she do it? Because she wanted to hurt Tom, because she hated him. How is that encouraging? Better that she loved them both in some demented way than that she hated Tom enough to want to hurt him, to punish him.

I guess Tom wasn't powerless after all. Since he never saw anything she said as negative, there wasn't anything for him to say, so he didn't miss out.

She didn't notice she was trying to hurt him for over a year? She didn't notice that she resented her daughter and never wanted to be around her? She didn't realize she was having sex with Richard until she woke up the day after Tom left? Then how can she recall all the times and dates and know it wasn't any good? How can she remember her behavior toward Tom and what she felt about him if she was in a fog and wasn't aware of it?

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by sherlock4012/25/05

As I read this story, I was reminded of something

from your part 2 of "After the Affair." I went back to read it and found the the part that bothered me. In that story and this one, both wives state that during sex with the other guy, they were thinking of their husbands. All I can say to that is what utter bullshit! They were obviously not thinking of their husbands at any other time during their affairs, why should the husbands believe anything they say about the sex?
This wife was begged and pleaded with to attend some kind of counseling for several months to no avail. In any case, how was she able to work at a job without screwing it up? Depression affects every part of a life, not just relationships. No one at work noticed, her work didn't suffer in any way?
I like your writing and have enjoyed your stories. I like that your husbands are not wimps and they don't put up with betrayal.

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by Anonymous12/26/05

CONTINUE

So far you will not let this story die.Finish it in your best tradition.Trust,but verify.Reconcile with a price.You are good Celt - Continue to be!!! Merry Christmas!!

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by Anonymous12/26/05

WHAT ? ? ? ?

Let me see if I get this straight. She had a baby girl, couldn't have sex with her husband the last three months of pregnency because of medical reasons, then after childbirth she did not have sexual relations with her husband because she was trying to hurt him, she called her baby a brat and to top it off she convinced herself that her husband knew she was having an affair and tried to emotionally hurt him. Man is she ever screwed up. What husband in his right mind would want to get back to a cheating slut of a wife like her. I hope Tom gets full custody of Rachael and the mother can go for a long walk off of a short pier.

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by Anonymous01/22/06

a sad story of a whore for a wife

if a man don't fuck his wife for a year,what is she going to do?this story of a weak man ,who let his home get out of control.even after she got caught he still let her call the shots.what can she do for the damage mentally to the little girl and the words in hubby head she use aganist him.what can move from her hubby brain the fucking in their bed of another man.the damage is done and the doctor can't hide that.

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by Anonymous01/28/06

We are what we do....

Listen man you have some good stories,but wow this plot twist is brutal. This woman can't chang who she is, she can only change her actions!!! This guy has rocks in his head if still has feelings for her. How could anyone trust an individual like this again? I'm not tjust talkin about the marrige either, the real focus should be on the child who is at everyones mercy and no in your story shows more than a passing concern for the real innocent,Rachel!!

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by Anonymous04/16/06

Bullshit

Let's all cry for poor little Julie. We shall all cry for poor Tom too. But, through our tears we see a silver lining for their future. We will forget that she is a cheating slut married to the dumbest motherfucker ever created by this writer. Tom loves the whore with all his being and can't live without the unfaithful bitch. Bullshit! How can he even like her must less love her? She is an adulterous cunt making his life miserable. I must have forgot that he loves her with all his soul. We, the readers, demand a happy ending. How can we ever hope to ride the happy trails without one. BULLSHIT!

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by Anonymous07/19/06

amen to previous poster

just another the "slut is sick, let's get thru it with psychobabble cause hubby's too fucking stupid to figure it out" story. rubbish

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by Rictic09/02/06

Great Story

A great story so far.

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