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Bit of a cop-out
choose your ending??And, you needed 3 more words for the last sentence of the devil's ending to have a bit of punch. It should have said:
"I chose anger and emptiness over her concept of love."
"I chose anger and emptiness over love"??
in point of fact, that's not true. he IS angry --- just as he is SAD --- but his DECISION is based on FACT, not on anger, as the author said.
his decision, his anger notwithstanding, is DERIVED from a few observations of FACTUAL things:
(1) this woman had an affair (she said he felt terrible over it; though she didn't tell me about it);
(2) she had a CHILD from that affair (and she is supposedly NOT aware of it; nor was she worried that the sexual activity might get her pregnant, for which she may want to be vigilante about)
(3) this woman ALSO said she HAS ALWAYS LOVED me; and would want to stay with me (especially now with a small child)
(4) but this was ALSO the woman who uttered the SAME SET OF WORDS I did, about "forsaking others",,,
so, with ALL these seemingly conflicting things, which are the KNOWABLE FACTS?
#1 and #2 are FACTS. #3 and #4 are EMOTIONS and wishes.
so, with FACTS, you can do as you please. choosing FACTS over fiction/wishes --- even while you're anger or sad --- is not the same thing as choosing anger and emptiness over love!
it is making a very difficult decision about NOT trusting someone who violate your senes of love, trust, loyalty, etc. their CONFESSION about eternal love for you don't mean any thing, IF they have sex with others, have babies by others, and even get sanctimonous about it. That they didn't know they're PREGNANT --- or know BY WHOM --- is SECONDARY to the FACT that they had (have) sex with others and gave birth to a baby.
sorry about it? you bet your butt, sure!, I too would be sorry, if I had sex with another person other than my spouse, became pregnant and knew nothing about it, not caring enough about it BUT ASSUME it's my spouse and mine, but LATER found it's not my spouse, and HE is about to make a decision that will shape the family dynamics drastically, where BOTH men may VERY WELL NOT be a part of the raising of the OFFSPRING!
you bet you buttocks, if I were in that woman's shoes, I too would be plenty "sorry"!
Cop out
The choice of an ending thing was a cop out, in my opinion. Writing a story of this type is tough, you're going to get criticism no matter what you do. But you're probably going to get just as much criticism this way, too, especially since your two choices were really no choices at all. Your framing of the two endings made it obvious which one you preferred, especiall the final line, "I chose anger and emptiness over love." You might as well have written in all caps, "THIS IS THE WRONG ENDING, FOLKS! PICK THE OTHER ONE!" So if you feel strongly about one ending over the other, you should just pick that one and stand by it.
Bullshit
Bullshit endings. Both of them.
This is a sad story and a sad
ending because it is the child that always gets hurt. In this case Jonathan was hurt by her betrayal. He has the right to leave and ask for a divorce based on adultery. He should seek Harry out and file suit on him for alienation of affection and make him pay child support. If he cannot pay child support or will not, have his driver's license revoked and his paycheck garnisheed.
His wife betrayed their marriage and hers and Harry's one time fling and mistake produced Penny. ONCE A CHEAT ALWAYS A CHEAT. What will happen the next time she is alone with a man, tired and has too much to drink. Right, she will become pregnent again and chuckhold her husband.
Jonathan, you had better get while the getting is good, but make it known that you are getting a divorce because of her adultery and birthing a bastard which she expects you to raise. Knock her down a notch bye telling everyone and both partents.
Jonathan, you have nothing to be ashamed for and the author has made you out to be a heel. Don't let little miss wifey make you out a heel too.
Ok...
First Great writing, and as always thanks for the time and effort...
now that we have that out of the way....
A few points...
ONE, now I work with reporters and cameramen all day long, I work in Television, so I do understand something of the enviroment. Can I see two people doing what they did?
Actually yes... have seen it actually.
TWO. The wife didn't KNOW that it wasn't his child? You mean this hard working street reporter can't add?
Are you sure she doesn't work with me?
Seriously, we have two real choices here. She really knew but was trying her BEST to keep it from being known OR she didn't want to think about it and deluded herself.
"Why?" on both? Becouse she could/would lose her husband if it wasn't his. Roll the dice and pray. Human flaw.
Hey authors...you DO knwo that they can do DNA tests in-vitro now right?
Now for the biggie's... the two(one) endings and the leaving being bad.
OH COME ON... there is just one ending here and you make that PERFECTLY clear.
IF he stays then she will be SOOO grateful and they have a chance.
IF he leaves he is choosing pain and anger over love.
WRONG.
And what a hammer... the child will always know that HE is the father, the other guy will NEVER know his child, AND if the child ever has her world shattered it will be by the hubby's hands.
"OH DAD I HATE YOU! You left Mom, you left ME! Why! why did you hate your own daughter so much?!?"
"Well hate to make you have a bad life since it has been roses till now but..."
Yeah and letting the child think her father abandoned her is better then letting the real father know and MAYBE the child can have them in their lives somehow.
A mistake? yup...but don't compound it by being 'Saintly"
BUT in your tale staying is the right choice, and leaving is TOTALLY WRONG.
In truth, BOTH will have their points, good and bad.
IF he stays he will NEVER be able to trust her out in her job any more. Hey in TV you HAVE to have 'sexy' people in front of the camera, (is she wanting to sleep with the new anchor Patrick?) And they will ALWAYS work for long periods of time with the camerapersons (That Mike dude and her are working together too much), (oh and sadly, as far as I have seen there are far too few cameraWOMEN in the biz.) So when will she 'fall' again? When will she become 'great friends' with someone and have a hard day at work and ...
He will also have to spend the rest of his life looking at PROOF of his spouces infidelity.
If a man can't sleep in the bedroom his spouce cheated on him in becosue of the thoughts that drive him insane, how is he suppost to live each day with the proof?
Hard choice, SOME men, and a few women that I know, CAN live with that .. they can get by... but personally I don't think I could.
On the good side, she will probally quit her job for him, maybe find another... in publicity or sales or something. So that COULD be negated but not entirely, again the 'connection' wil be a worry. BUT she proably will make MAJOR life changes to help him beable to feel better in the marrage and help the reconciliation along.
He will also have some one that he loves, abet a HURT love, but someone he loves to try and make his life with. And working froma base is better than nothing.
Leaving.
Well there is that 'hole' in his life. The missing of NOT ONLY the woman he loved BUT of that child he wanted.
And then there will be the 'busy body' friends and family that want to know why OR why he doesn't 'take care of HIS child'. The social pressures will be there for as long as he with with those people.
On the plus side... he can move on faster. No reminders that need diapers changed or to be potty trained or...
He can also start with some one else that he DOESN'T have major trust issues with. No history ALSO means no innate baggage.
Bad in both... NEITHER are sure things. He could stay and they never have more kids... he never is able to 'connect' with the child again OR with his wife. And eventually the 'fire' of their love just dies. Who is helped then?
OR he can leave and never find it in his heart to trust again. OR he just can't 'move on' and really get with another gal.
The point is. As written the ONLY way that ANYONE will be happy is if he stayed. Leaving was a horrible action and would only hurt him, the wife and later on, the child.
Could have been a 5 in my book, EVEN with the choose your own ending... IF there was a real choice.
great until the ending
see, you can't please us no matter what low down dirty tricks you try! as the writer its your job to put an ending on your story. my job,as the reader, is to bitch and complain about how you did your job. if your not going to do your job properly how can i do my job?
seriously though i thought this to be a great story until the multiple endings. hey,its your story, your ending. if a reader doesn't like your story,or just the ending, tough doo doo.
i've enjoyed your stories, keep em coming.
don
Sad
Choose one ending and stick with it. If some readers don't like, too bad. You can't please everyone, so please yourself.
Boyd
indeed, a choice
Well, you can't please anyone and while I enjoy a "choose your ending", generally I think an author should just take it the way they prefer/imagine the story going.
Anyway, this line in the 2nd ending would have cemented my leaving: "She'll know that you are her father. I'll make sure she only knows the good parts of our marriage. If she knows of the bad, it will be from you. Never from me. You will have to decide what you want to be. You can live with your hate and bitterness and be no part of her life, or you can choose to enjoy what God has given us. The choice is yours."
What God has given us? Indeed.
Anger and resentment over love
who in their right mind would EVER want that. Love is the answer to everything.
Anger and resentment leads to bitterness and self hatred.
The first ending is the wise ending.
Forget 2nd ending
Get over it Jonathon! She's obviously deeply sorry for her single mistake, and devastated that the child isn't yours. You're going to ruin not only her life & that of the child, but yours too?
Once a cheater always a cheater? Get a life!
Choices
well written. i like the story and even the "choose your ending" part.
there's always a decision to make. that's part of life. readers may not agree w/ you on giving them choices, but its your story.
you should make a poll. w/c ending would readers prefer most.
i agree with the cop out
i cant give my normal good score . i really dont like either ending...i think harry needs to9 share some of the pain ....and some of the financial responsibility oftheir mistake... so pay money into a fund and insure it in case of death to cover her college ...if he was to insist on being part of his daughters life then the wife would have to make a desision on which one of us she wanted me or him because he could never be a part of my life ...so he either pays without benefits or desides it was a mistake and accepts his financial burden or ..the thing id page needs to be reminded also ... and there is health things to look at also ...what about genetic diseases etc ...so hard but to me the marriage would always have a shadow over it ... maybe he needs to have an affair of his own ...what about having a kid ofhis own with another woamn and get even ....to me the kid would always be a problem i could love it yes ....but not to the same extent that i could my own ...sad story man
I
liked it....and i liked the two ending also however i can see where some would say just pick your ending...its your story do it the way ya want to. Thanks for allowing us to read you. respectfully fan in Texas naynay
A very sorry ending
celt:
I've been a fan of yours but not in this story. You have nade him to be the ultimate wimp and her to be the ultimate heroine. There is only one appropriate ending; the ultimate truth. Mother is a slut. Daddy is not yours. The chicken-shit who fathered you has fled the scene and your mother is a whore and a slut. She loves strange cock!
This Dog Don't Hunt 3
The author asks us to believe that these people live in a world where words like honor,trust,and love are not compatible with the word marriage.This is the world of the refrain ,"if you are not with the one you love;love the one you are with"!Trust to Page means that you pawn another man's child off on your husband as his own.The concept of trust is based on the word truth.There is no truth in this marriage when things are brought to light (truth)!The truth is that this husband has been given no reason to trust her in the future.Marriages are built on the foundation of trust; therefore there is no marriage.The word honor refers to the respect that we feel a person is due.Again, Page fails dismally!The words honor and lie are not synonyms as Mr. Celt seems to imply.If Page doesn't respect her husband enough to not allow herself to be put in situations that could lead to the compromise of her vows then there can be no honor.As to the word love, It perplexes me as to how love can be derived from lies, deceit,and dishonor.
The brave new world that Mr. Celt envisions is one that I would choose to forego.
Different !
Good story, very well written. I liked the choice of endings but preffered the first!
Outstanding
This was an excellent story, filled with the anger and bitterness that infidelity brings. The characters were well drawn and the angst and hurt were palpable. Your portrayal of the husband was so very real and heartfelt. This was a very thoughtful and emotional tale.
Now for a quibble, if I may. Celt, you are an excellent storyteller and I thoroughly enjoyed all of your tales. This was YOUR story and I would have accepted any ending, as long as it was one that YOU chose. I've learned that trying to satisfy everyone usually winds up satisfying no one. Just a question, which ending would YOU have chosen?
Celt, I believe you out did yourself on this one.
Celt, I have read a few of the comments and as you said; (even with your, "Pick your own ending,") it appears there are still a few that are disgruntled. I have read every story you have put on Literotica at least once. This story ranks amoung the best. Sure I will admit that I would hope you could build on it a bit, tell the out come of each ending, but I think also that just lettting it end and the reader form their own conclusion is works well too.
Thanks again for all the stories.
Bob
Celt, I believe you out did yourself on this one.
Celt, I have read a few of the comments and as you said; (even with your, "Pick your own ending,") it appears there are still a few that are disgruntled. I have read every story you have put on Literotica at least once. This story ranks amoung the best. Sure I will admit that I would hope you could build on it a bit, tell the out come of each ending, but I think also that just lettting it end and the reader form their own conclusion is works well too.
Thanks again for all the stories.
Bob
I liked the story very much but...
This story was well written and had a strong emotional thread all the way through. I throughly enjoyed the story until the end. My problem is that the author chose to wimp out on the ending. He admits that he can't make all the readers satisfied with a single ending so he wrote two. I admit both endings are good and both work with the story but by writing two endings I think the author wasn't being true to himself. He should have written one ending. The one that he wanted not what he thought his readers wanted. I think stories are always better when the author doesn't let the readers dictate how the story will end. But that's just my opinion.
Thecelt wrote a very nice story here but I hope that he goes back to sticking to one ending in his future stories.
Harry Palmer?
I know it gets hard to come up with names, but Harry Palmer??? Was Jack Soff too obvious?
Rare case for complete forgiveness.
Normally, I think betrayal is unforgivable but here the circumstances are so unusual that I prefer your first ending. If I were in that situation and chose ending #2, I think that, in time, I would bitterly regret my choice.
It was a wonderful story
Kanga said it best
"Her concept of Love". She doesn't love her husband and if she does (to again quote Kanga)she's brain-dead. She knew when she became pregnant or should at least had doubts about paternity. She screwed Harry and many days later, her husband. Sure sounds like a College grad to me. We know you are a "reconciliation-at-all-costs author, Celt. Write the way you want, but don't try to sermonize.Your sanctimony (voiced by your female lead)killed the story and is just a wee bit insulting.
Another good story by the Celt
I have not read any other posted comments as I don’t want to be influenced with others thoughts for my take on Celts new story.
I’m sorry it’s come to our Authors being so barraged with negative comments that they feel compelled to give us two endings. Some of our comments are rough on these people who spend an inordinate amount of time fretting and writing not only over the story they want but how it will be perceived and torn apart. This can be somewhat good in that all the good authors have spent more time in checking their plots for as much believability as they have the knowledge. Some legal issues are not as important to be completely accurate as this leaves little drama in many stories outcomes.
I believe that the cut off point of the main body of the story was too late to really give the Husband any choice about divorce. He has taken months after the DNA test results to even look at the results. This indicates he has already made the decision over more then a 9 months of consideration, and appears he needs her more then the truth. Only when faced with a scare that something was still going on between Harry and Page from a long clandestine phone conversation does he feel threatened enough to conquer his fear and look at the results.
If the husband had real anger and pain he would have been waiting with anxious anticipation of knowing the truth so he could confront and deicide what he would do. He did not do any of these things, he states he had forgotten the DNA tests till the phone call. This was not a man who was going to give up his wife and the daughter he went out of his way to love and nurture. He had put all his concerns behind him and now just wanted to know for sure if it was a one time thing. Before confronting anyone he states in the story that Page isn’t a slut. He has all ready determined he knows her enough that they will work it out. He’s just looking for some kind of confirmation to easy his decision.
EXCERPT: Harry was the other guy, or at least I hoped he was the only other guy. Page wasn't a slut so it was likely Harry was the only one.
This was a tightly drawn plot of only one indiscretion and it being of a subconscious nature of not even remembering, or blocking out, the night of infidelity. The Author gave this ultimate betrayal of having another’s child the easiest way out into reconciliation.
I for one can certainly understand reconciliation is a very strong possibility with the facts we are given and the thought process and actions of the husbands character.
Good story from a very exceptional writer. You will get as much negative as positive and that’s the nature of Cheating Wives and confrontation with the husband. I think your divorce ended doesn’t fit into the actions and thoughts we are given of this husband. He is not a wimp but a man who has considered and found what he can live with and still be whole.
Thanks Celt for the great entertainment
With great respect
PT
Great Story
I much prefer that you the author do a single ending and let it stand on its own.
Since I do have to choose, I pick ending # 1. Though I can hardly believe I am saying that given my preferences for revenge, in this case I believe it was a for the most part a mistake and doesn't warrant his leaving and everyone losing.
It wasn't totally a mistake though and he must take almost as much responsibility for it as his wife. What the fuck is a married woman doing sharing hotel rooms and apartments with anyone in the first place? If you put yourself in those kind of situations, mistakes can happpen. DON'T GO THERE FOLKS and you won't have to endure the mistakes.
As Longhorn__07 wrote in his story "Separate Lives" a married woman (or man) has no business putting themselves in situations where there could possibly be tempted. By her doing it in the past and his allowing it when he knew it happened (trust isn't the issue here, it is proximity and mistakes) he helped the mistake to happen.
Thank you for your efforts. It is a good story and I look forward to many more from you.
Charleybear
p.s. Ending two would be a bigger mistake than the cheating, lying and deceit that had gone on up to this point.
It is somewhat of a truism that
an author needs to be a bit of a masochist to be successful. In this case the author (not the story) should be placed in the fetish category for self-flagellation.
For the type of story I thought it was done as well as it could be... an excellent display of the craft of writing. This is as good as it gets in describing the emotions and thought processes engendered by infidelity.
I'm not a fan of multiple endings. I sometimes write alternate endings and go with the one thats is most consistent with the story line. It's actually quite difficult to write a story that can sucessfully presage multiple endings. After I've made my choice if I really like the leftover ending I write a new story that leads up to that outcome.
I don't really understand how so many readers can downgrade this well written story because the author had a "bad ending day!" At the end, as readers we have to ask ourselves, did I like the story? Was it entertaining? Was it well written? Did it make me think? How did it compare with other similar stories and how did I vote on them?
This story is currently at 4.08 and should be solidly around 4.7 - 4.8. There are a lot of poorly written stories that have higher scores!
Well done and I look forward to more of your stories!
Regards, DJ
Well Written
Without having read the entire group of preceding comments, it appears that many are unhappy with the optional ending approach. Actually, I tend to agree, but moreso because the story as written calls for the first ending, and the second ending is illogical unless the story is changed to reveal a running affair (of whatever duration, terminated or otherwise).
For the record, I will say this: In real life, I do know of two marriages (unrelated situations) in which one spouse engaged in a brief "indescretion", was discovered, but the marriage did indeed survive and grow. And I'm not talking about "peaceful coexistence". Granted, in neither of these cases was there a baby involved. But the point is that it is plausible for this story line to occur in real life.
I thought the story was well written. I thought the story line only allows for the first ending. Other stories, dual endings; perhaps, but the author would have to augment the information made available to the reader. And all that's probably more effort than it's worth.
Carry on!
-- KVK
well-written as always
Like all of thecelt's stories, very powerful and moving. We feel deeply with the husband, and that's what readers (or at least this reader) are looking for in a good story.
Like others, I urge you to stick to just one ending in the future. I think Peggytwitty was very insightful in pointing out that the first ending, with a reconciliation, is the ending that was clearly being led up to throughout the story. In various ways: the cheating was one time only, sort of an "accident", there was no romantic attachment to the lover, in fact both the wife and lover felt terribly guilty, etc. thecelt was clearly working towards a reconciliation (which seems right to me given the circumstances), so I think you should let the story finish as it seems to need to.
God knows, whatever we authors post on this site we're going to get flak from somebody, and often from lots of somebodies. So (as others have said) I urge you to follow your own impulses and trust that what seems wright to you in a story will please your readers as well.
Thanks so much for your great stories!
ohio
Having
Having read many of the previous wordy and profound comments, I can only say(in my own words)thathis is a great story.
This time I THINK i support reconciliation
Since I am kind of an odd fish anyway I personally do not have a problem with the alternate endings. I don't think it should be done for every story but if the author wishes to try something different... so what the hell.
It may be surprise to some but in this particular story I would like to buy a ticket on the reconciliation express train. That being said however I can only support a reconciliation based on what could be faulty assumptions that the husband has made in this story which may not be true or accurate.
The first faulty assumption that the husband has made is that his wife has only had a onetime encounter with Harry and that she has not had an affair with anyone else.
In page two of the story the husband suspects then finds out that the biological father is Harry. After his confrontation with Harry the husband deduces that his wife only had a 1 time encounter with Harry but the hubby mistakenly assumes his that she did not have an affair with anyone else during those years when she was in the city with her own apartment.
How exactly does he come to this deduction? The two things or facts are not related and while the husband may be reasonably sure that Harry is telling the truth from what I read the story... He has no knowledge or evidence at all but what the wife was or was not saying someone else from time to time.
Indeed just before the husband walked out and went to the Holiday Inn he talked of marriage and fidelity and the wife must have known given how upset he was and the extended period of time that he was at holiday inn... that he must the suspected something about the affair.
Than when she was given several chances to come clean about the event she did not until the husband actually confronted her. ****Perhaps this was because there were other events or incidents in the wife's past and she did not know what or which event/ cheating was upsetting her husband? ***
The 2nd faulty assumption is that both husband-and-wife all are assuming that Harry is not going figure out that he is the father / sperm donor of their baby girl. This seems to be a fairly reasonable assumption but IF Harry were to put his mind to it and ask some questions he might get a clue and this could present all sorts of severe legal problems for them down the road.
I had maintained all along that there is a significant difference between having a onetime sexual encounter that may or may not involve all the states of consciousness and where the cheating spouse shows the remorse and comes clean versus an 3 month...6 month or 8 month etc affair as we have all read about many of the stories that often involves a conscious decision to lie steal and betray.
Lastly I think it's very interesting the when he author had both spouses operating under the umbrella that not knowing the real truth is worse than operating under faulty assumptions.
The husband had the DNA test in his hands for a rather long period of time yet he never decided to jump on the issue until the end of the story... and the wife clearly had to know or suspect that the daughter might not had been conceived by their husband but by the other man... and she simply did not want to spend any time doing self-examination to figure out the truth.
Again based upon what we know and what we THINK we know how would support a reconciliation here especially for the sake of the beautiful girl. But out urge the husband if you as a friend of mine to engage in a lot more fact-finding before he makes a firm decision.
Great reading!
I pick Ending #1. If more adults could be as forgiving as this there would be little need for the Bushes, Cheneys and other idiot leaders in this world, not to mention the jealousies, wars and what nots that cause people to hate each other.
Another fine story by thecelt
Another wonderful story by thecelt, You have a real knack for writing suspenseful stories about loving couples that get your readers into the story. As one of those who like happy ending I vote for ending 1, I do have one request adddresed to you and all the other fine writers of cheating wife stories. Please-Please-Please- do not have the wronged husband in these stories always drink himself into a stupor and then dsappear for days or weeks without communicating with his wife. I don't know if this is a rule on ths site, But I find it irritating as hell. This was a fine story, in my opinion,but it would have been a fine story if he confronted his wife immediately rather than going throught the drunk, disappear syndrome.Sorry for the griping, but thanks for writing your fine stories. 60 year old George
Well Celt, I guess I'm in the minority here again.
I almost felt like the story deserved 100. But two things did it in for me.
1.) I have no problem with alternate endings, sometimes it fills a void when an author can't make up their mind which way to go with a story. But when I saw the question from the John: Was my life better with her or without her? I knew you had already made up your mind which way you thought the story should have gone. I usually only see this question when the author wants to use either the main character or someone in the story to point out that they feel that reconcilation is the only "real" way the story should go.
2.) But it was obvious to everyone, including the blind, that you favored ending one and only put a token ending in for part two in an attempt to appease the crowd that might not agree with you how you saw the story ending.
I mean look at the titles:
Ending 1 - My Angel
Ending 2 – The Devil Inside
When I saw those I knew that you favored ending 1. The Devil inside?!? Even if I wasn't sure by the titles, I was totally sure when I got to this part of Ending 2:
"She'll know that you are her father. I'll make sure she only knows the good parts of our marriage. If she knows of the bad, "it will be from you". "Never from me". You will have to decide what you want to be. "You" can live with your hate and bitterness and "be no part of her life", or you can choose to enjoy what God has given us. The choice is yours.*"
She turned back to look with love at her child. I watched for another minute and walked out of their lives.
*"I chose anger and emptiness over love"*"
_________________________________________ ___
Wow, just wow.
I guess I'm in the minority here again. One thing that I've always been amazed at is when authors feel there is always room for a reconcilation, and appear to take a bitter view of those that don't agree with them.
Let's see in ending two, you called the husband "Hateful", "Bitter", "Turning his back on a gift from God" (never mind the fact you had God give him a gift that was totally "unasked for", but given solely to him via another man who was pinch hitting for him with his own wife. And he never knew or agree to this "gift"), that if the daughter ever heard anything negative that it would be from him and not her (meaning the wife would never tell the daugther why they divorced. Let's be real a second, kids aren't stupid or fools. If she thinks the man she's told is her father just left them to fend for themselves she will hate him forever without having to be told the truth), and that if he wanted to walk out of her life then he was the one in the wrong for not accepting the daughter, and not the wife. And then you pointed out he choose a life "anger and emptiness" because he couldn't accept living a life of raising his soon to be ex-wife's love child with her??
Wow, just wow.
Gee, could you have made it "anymore" the husband fault and him the villian if you tried??? I mean don't try and hide how you REALLY feel about "Ending two", spell it out for us.
I mean I guess what your trying to say in this story is that if someone gets another man's wife pregnant, her husband is less of a man for not sticking around to help raise the wife's love child? If that's not your point then I guess I might have missed how you felt in Part two of your ending because you hid it so well.
I would ask you, what would you feel is the ultimate betrayal in a marriage? From this story, and "maybe" a few other stories, I gather it's not if a spouse cheats. I seem to gather that you might feel that it should always be forgiven, as long as at some point the cheating spouse says "sorry". And it doesn't seem to matter what the condition or situation that appology was give in. The betrayal doesn't seem to come from having another man's child and trying to pass it off as the husband's. So I'm kinda curions, what would it be? Or do you personally feel there isn't actually anything that could be done that would be viewed as a betrayal of a marraige mate?
And for me the telling point of if a reconcilation in a story between people is "possible", isn't after the person has cheated, thinks they have hidden what they did, and now think's they have gotten away with it, only later to be finally "cornered" and now has "no" way out. So now they have to finally tell truth because they have no other options. They never in stories like this ask after the deed is done and they should tell the mate, but only when they are roped into it. How can you ask to be forgiven when you get caught in lie after lie before you ask for it? And that's what you had here in story, the truth was hidden and lie after lie was told. But you portrayed the husband as the bad guy in the second ending for not sticking around.
I'd rather you left the second ending off than put such a half hearted attempt in it. I somehow gather you have never been in this situation, so it would make it easier to feel, and write, what you felt the right thing to do was in this situation. But I view that as me telling someone how good it feels to be a lesbian.
Up till the ending's it was a good story I thought, but the way you ended "Ending Two" just killed the story for me. You portrayed the husband as being "petty" and "selfish" for not accepting his wife's love child as his own. That totally killed the story for me, when an author does something like that. It feels too me like they are preaching to me.
-Risq
Pain And Regret Lacking.
A great story as always, and I have no problem with any author offering alternate endings to their work. After all, it's your storyline. I do feel however that "Penny" did not offer enough contrition or understanding of the pain and remorse she has caused? So, I can't give this story a 100 rating.
I can't contain my disbelief
at ending 2. You must be joking, author?
I have John's reply to her absolutley, as Kanga says, BRAIN DEAD, self centered, stupid, unbelievable words to John as he leaves the slut.
She ends by saying; "You can live with your hate and bitterness and be no part of her life, or you can choose to enjoy what God has given us."
John replies:
"What God has given US? What has God given US? He has given you and Harry a child, given that screwing Harry helped God along there. He has 'given' me a slut for a wife and bastard child that supposed wife expects me to support and claim as my own. What has He given US?
You have your bastard child and your lover, all I have is a slut wife who expects me to be a wimp and a broken marriage. Go shack up with Harry and let him support you and his bastard."
This is definitely what she deserves given her attitude in that ending
By the way, I believe from the way this story was written, a reconciliation was very likely in order, but definitely not on the terms in the first ending. The child is hers, not his or 'theirs'. Harry should be made to pay for his seduction of Penny. She will pay the rest of her life, with or without John, every time she looks at the child. Also, Page would need to show a glimmer of remorse before a realistic reconciliation could commence.
One crazy woman's opinion.
Why Did You Insult My /Our Intelligence In #2?
Yeah I gave you 100 in the other score as well. Why? Cuz I'm overly exhausted and had 8 bottles of wine then mistakenly fell 83 times on this woman laying there. Please come over and talk to my wife as I may be pregnant.
Seriously, Make "your" choice but don't word choice #2 to try to guilt me into living with a woman who makes undeclared mistakes but can't add. Raising a living billboard of my wife's selfish non-respect through the next 20 some years of food, clothing, cars, education and mistakes while Harry is making more in Denver.
Say this really isn't as bad as it could be. Did you see the woman on TV minus her right eye. Seems hubbie shot her through her eye but she still loves him and wants to stay with him forever plus a day!
Author - I really respect your scribing abilities and your right to express your viewpoint of life. But I do have a question. Why do you choose to make her maybe one timer so disgusting memorable for the loving husband to try to hurdle? He has suspected from day 45 and knew from 2 months after birth. He has no emotional baggage yet - yet you have her make him the ogre in #2 just to poke it in my eye.
Cmon - I want to respect you but you are making it tough.
Please don't paint yourself into such a corner - you aren't Houdini.
100 points for...
...stirring up the natives. I think my ending would be to (1) sue the perp for child support and (2) get her pregnant several more times.
No need for two choices
If my wife ever cheated on me for any reason, drunk, tired, whatever, she'd be out on her ass, and if she hid it from me especially if a baby was involved I'd sue her for every penny I could get out of her, I'd drag her name through the mud and let everybody I met know just what kind of woman she was. There was no need for that soft lovey dovey ending in my opinion, he should have shot her in the face and walked out.
The CELT a Hubby hater? Maybe Risq is right
You know the more I think about it the more I think RISQ might be correct. THE CELT is a great writer and his recent stories are IMO much Better...
BUT while there is a clearly "KILL the cheating bitch" crowd out there NOT everyone who disagrees with a reconciliation is part of that crowd/ group as well.
sometimes there are readers /folks in the middle like Risq and myself that could accept reconcilaition with a cheating spouse in certain conditions / event but at other times we do not
Clearly the way CELT wrote the 2nd ending he ATTACKS the hubby and Men in general... Bringing GOD vs bitterness and hate into this is a Low fucking blow...
It is NOT unreasonable for a man / husband to have a PROBLEM looking at a kid that is NOT his... knowing his own wife broke her marriage vow and lied over and over and over again and never came clean until she has CAUGHT.
that does NOT make the hubby EVIL or mean or self centered nor are the READERS who dont accept the reconciliation b/c of the wifes outrageous actions... part of the "throw the birch out" crowd.
yet in most cases in the CELTS stories as long the wife says SORRY and cries for a few days the hubby has to accept and forgive.
In my life I chose option 1
My wife had a sexual encounter with an old boyfriend shortly after we were married. She got drunk at a party that I could not attend due to work. It was difficult, but 27 years and 2 children later I know I made the correct choice. It is not easy to forgive, and after counselling we never talked about it again. On our 25th wedding anniversary my wife told me that my forgiveness was the greatest gift she ever received.
Who made a choice?
This certainly was an interesting selection of a title. The problem was that you DID NOT make a choice. Your multiple endings approach left me empty. In my opinion an author should only leave their story open ended if it is part of a declared chain story. You are not bound by that of course. It is just my opinion.
I chose ending #2 [stupid slut]
We really enjoy this author's work and efforts. Obviously, we do not agree to the "my angel" perspective because she is nothing but a stupid slut. However, a personal observation is that ending #2 did not contain enough revenge to be realistic and therefore it did not get a high score. And that is how we see it. Once again, thank you author for your hard work.
I liked it
And I prefered ending number one. If a couple are truly in love, then some, and perhaps many, things can be overcome. Raising another man's daughter could be rough, very rough. But I have raised another man's daughter as my own, and I can tell you that the rewards are mind-boggling. Of course it was quite a bit different for me - my daughter was the result of my wife's first marriage. Be that as it may, your child is who you help make it. Raising a child is a loving experience.
I totally disagree with those who say "throw the slut out". There may be times for that, but when things happen, very often there are other reasons also. A marriage that isn't working for some reason, psychological problems, you name it.
Good job.
Nice Try
Did you really think there is a way to escape criticism? The only way to avoid public criticism (if at all) is to disable the comments like you did in the Service Paid story.
The problem with this story is that the wife cheated while she was trying to get pregnant with her husband. This is a serious thing that cannot be attributed to exhaustion and drunkenness. Her husband did not have that problem and did not slip in similar situations.
I think many people after staying awake for 26 hours go straight to bed. What was the point of drinking wine until they got drunk.
I think the situation where reason did not exist is bullshit. In that condition when he kissed her instead of opening her legs was it possible for her to grab a kitchen knife and stab him to death? Was it just a matter of luck that she did not or did she have enough presence of mind to know that would be a serious mistake? Well, she did not think cheating while fertile without protection would be a serious mistake. The moral of this is that reason existed but was ignored in favor of lust.
The blanket forgiveness people should answer this question. If somebody was drunk or angry or irritated and killed your spouse and when he calmed down he regretted it, would you forgive him? Would the law? If you would, remember that others might not.
I think creating an illegal life is as bad as taking a legal life. They are both serious mistakes that God punished by death. Though I am totally with you not to divorce your spouse if she or he burned the stew by mistake or dropped a mug.
The whole idea of forgiveness is that either we think the mistake was not worth anything, like when somebody bumps your shoulder in a crowded street, or we believe that it was unintentional and would never happen again. It is debateable whether this cheating was unintentional. Regarding its recurrence, if we all could read the future we would certainly make the right decision, but we cannot, so we have to make an educated judgement. Sometimes the pain is too much to warrant a second chance. If you enjoy having others hurt you or if you do not care about that, please remember that the rest of us do.
We can only give you our opinion, so do not ask us for yours.
If I have to choose - #1
I think both endings were contrived but #1 was more believable and fit better with the story itself. As for the usual suspects who wanted Page to suffer all I have to say is you have very narrow concepts of love and NO forgiveness in you. There are stories on this site that #2 would have been a fitting ending for but not this one. With all the facts he found out for him to walk also says he has no understanding of another part of the vows "for better or worse" Page hadn't been fucking the guy for months or fucking other guys for months this was a 1 time event that both regretted. Forgiveness and working to reconcile was the better ending. Ending #2 turned the husband into a selfish chump.
How insulting of you
The whole point of multiple endings is to cater to everyone, so why do you make an obvious attack on everyone who goes with ending #2? If you feel that strongly, just make ending #1 and leave it at that.
Here, let me sum up your second ending:
Ending #2 - Fuck off.
Two endings...
...but why not a third? Why could he not leave her without bitterness and "the devil within" and tell her to call Harry and have him help her raise his child?
Just as the title of your story states, she also made a choice. You explain away too casually that they were too drunk to know what they were doing, and in such a state of euphoria that they could excuse their actions (until it was all over, of course, when it's too late to excuse them). Being drunk tends to also make one too groggy to perform, or even want to, especially after being deprived of sleep for so long. So it follows that they had to make a consious choice to betray her husband.
That does not mean he has to hate her or be mean to her as he leaves. He may not want to face the rest of his life being reminded on a daily basis that she took another man into her bed because she was tipsy, but in such a state of euphoria that she decided to "celebrate" by having sex with another man.
It is your story, however, so you can choose however many endings you want. There are more possibilities than you suggested, however.
Well, to the Anon poster below who said........
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"My wife had a sexual encounter with an old boyfriend shortly after we were married. She got drunk at a party that I could not attend due to work. It was difficult, but 27 years and 2 children later I know I made the correct choice. It is not easy to forgive, and after counselling we never talked about it again. On our 25th wedding anniversary my wife told me that my forgiveness was the greatest gift she ever received"
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I know that everyone who has had this happen to them has to work out out their own way, but I don't want to suggest how you felt or everything that happened to you in your life I would like to point out a few things.
In this story the wife cheated on the husband, but then she started trying to deceive him so she wouldn't have to tell him what she did:
- She quit her job. But she told her husband that it was because she wanted to be a stay at home mom like he wanted. She had the chance then to come clean, but she didn't.
- Her and her husband went for a weekend away a few weeks "after" she had sex with first Harry. She had the chance to tell him then, but she choose to keep it hidden.
- When he said he was going to move out, she accused "him" of being the one having the affair. She knew perfectly well that she had already cheated, but she pulled the old "A good defense is always a good offense first" and attacked him to deflect guilt away from her.
- When the Harry called she told the husband it was personal and wouldn't tell him. She had the chance "then" to tell him the truth, but she didn't
It wasn't until she was cornered and realized that the husband was leaving her because he found out about the affair that she came clean. Then and only then and not a moment before this. Once she realized that he knew she had cheated, but didn't have all the fact, that's the ONLY reason she came clean.
To me that doesn't speak as loving. Everyone wants to say that the husband is the bad guy if he doesn't stick around, but how loving is it of her to cheat, lie and deceive him about what she did? Or only to come clean when she knows he knows and she only tells him what happened so that he doesn't get his facts wrong? She made it a point of telling him it was a one time thing, so that he wouldn't think it was worse than it really was. That's not very loving of the wife in this story to only tell what happened so she doesn't have to live without him. If she loved him, well enough to think about him and how he would feel, she would have sat him down and told him. Living with the guilt should have been enough to make sure he knew. But she didn't. That's why I could never go for reconcilation in a story like this. She didn't do anything to deserve it. But that's my opinion too.
And to put it in to perspective, what about Harry? He never knew he fathered a child with her. I'm sorry but that was still his child and in this story, and in both endings, both of them made the decision to keep that fact from him. What if Harry never has a chance to have kids again and this was his only one? How fair is that too him? He might actually want to be in the childs life as well. What if he has a genentic disease that needs early detection and treatment and they never find out? To keep the family together the author took the route of keeping a child from knowing their birth father because it would make life easier on the wife. That again I feel is wrong. It's ok to feel that if the husband doesn't stay he's the one in the wrong "and an Evil Bastard", but it's ok for both of them to conceal the fact that someone fathered her child but she won't tell the birth father and is willing to let him move out of state without ever knowing? See, keeping the birth father out of the story prevents adding a new reason that would prevent them from getting back together, but lets be honest a second. That's just as bad as her cheating, deceiving, and lying to her husband. But now their both in on deceiving a child and depriving a man of his offspring in ending one, and just the wife in ending two, so that their life can be easier than telling family and friends the truth.
Again that's my opinion, but I feel that the easy way was taken for both of the main characters of this story, and I just don't feel that I can really enjoy a story like that
-Risq
I know how I have to vote.
Thecelt,
All of the responses have convinced me. I vote in favor of both endings. Why? Because you have managed to obtain 5+ pages of comments on ALL sides of this, which suggests to me, that you hit your target...the reader. Nice shot, although I would really would have liked door #2 explored in more depth, I know I prefer door #1 most times.
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