All Comments on 'A Joke Ch. 02'

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Harryin VAHarryin VAover 16 years ago
whether she had sex or not; IRRELVANT

chapter 1 was great... this one Not so much. the KEY issues was not tackled at all. The HUSBAND is a bit of a wimp .

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FIRST: Lets deal with the <b>wife's mindset</b>... which appears to have been something like this:

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<i> Hey Roger you know what would be a great joke to play on my husband? lets chain him up in the basement while we go upstairs and pretend to fuck... or maybe we actually will... then he will hear all the pretend fuck noises and we will comeback down stairs and we can laugh at him...."</i>

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You see... it never occurrs to FLO that her husband might react differently. That he might physically hurt himself trying to escape.

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<b>In fact its clear that Flo never at ANY time thought about her husband or his reaction for one second while thinking about this of this practical JOKE with Roger</b>

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The solution to this crisis in this chapter is total failure because it nevers deals with how his wife could think like that.

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SECOND:... How and more importantly WHY does the husband say "WE seem to have gotten off the track"... what the fuck did HE do wrong?

bruce22bruce22over 16 years ago
It is a solution and may even be a good one.

In real life after hearing her little speech and looking at the results of the lie detector he would be left without option either he accepts that he has no good reason to not try again or he admits that he does not want his wife back because she has hurt him too much. I admit I would have insisted on a question about where and why of the orgasmic cry being included, and would be a bit leary about Bill Clinton interpretations of what is a sexual relation! Did they masturbate in front of each other or even script their show. As far as I am concerned that would be too much intimacy between my neighbor and my wife. Thanks for inventing and writing this story Agena.

AnonymousAnonymousover 16 years ago
Good ending but....

Harry's points are valid - he turned out to be a wimp. Perhaps this is what lead up to the point, where his stupid wife assumed that this type of joke would be funny [for whom, we do not know]. Where is the the revenge on the other party in this mess? Were there any real consequences?

AnonymousAnonymousover 16 years ago
A Minus & A Plus = Compromise

He was a bit more conciliatory a little too quick for my tastes.<P>

However a very imaginative & worthwhile tale Author. It isn't necessary that we all think alike and the buck does stop with you doesn't it!<P>

We look forward to your next and appreciate your time and efforts here.

With High Regard

AnonymousAnonymousover 16 years ago
a lie detecting?

surely you are jokin', right, mr. writer?

machine in-put: <p>

question is asked: if heart rate beats 2/5 faster, it is a "yes," if not, it is a "no":..... <p>

an impartial and qualified person looks at a person and asks, <p>

"Did you have sex with a man other than your husband that night?" <p>

calmly, "No." no irregular heart beat substantial enough to qualify as a "yes". <p>

IT IS TRUE, STATED UNEQUVICALLY BY A MACHINE, folks, the woman had no sex with another man that night! <p>

what kind of nonsense is that? LOL <p>

no court of law ever allow such nonsense as evidence, although astrologers and folks who belief such gibberish nonense likely also believe such blood/heart-rate and positive-negative correlation... <p>

please, write something funny or somethin'; there's enough really, raelly dumb "writers" populating Lit. land here already...

SleeplessinMDSleeplessinMDover 16 years ago
This Joke reminded me...

of the story where the wife ties up the husband and fucks a man in front of him because she believes that he would get a thrill of it. What about sharing her orgasmic cry with her next door neighbor? What about her total disregard for his feelings the first time she pulled this stunt? There is no question that there is something wrong with Flo. Her antics had been going on for sometime so this was no single mistake.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bottom Line: It really depends on the quality of their relationship so you have to have been there to judge whether it was worth going on with the marriage. In other words either ending where the husband stayed or left would have been justified. Flo could have real remorse for her actions or she realized that she had better tell him what he wanted to hear.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Is he a wimp? Heck No! She realized that there was a line she better not cross again! Although the lie detector test was silly (they could have jerked or sucked each other off and not view that as "sex") it did show that she was willing to do what was needed to meet his demands.

AnonymousAnonymousover 16 years ago
Good original story but weak ending.

You write well and the idea was very much off the beaten path, but I'm not sure I would want to stay married to a woman who though huniliating me and having pretend sex with the next door neighbor was hilarious. The two jokers even MADE A FOOL OF HIS WIFE BY SENDING HER ON A PHONEY CALL TO THE HOSPITAL. yOUR SOLUTION OF RESUMING THEIR MARRIAGE IS LOGICAL, BUT I DON'T THINK THE MARRIAGE WILL EVER BE THE SANE AGAIN.

60 Year old George

AnonymousAnonymousover 16 years ago
Ending Misses The Point

Well written and the first chapter was very good, but the second chapter contradicts the point. We would all like to forgive, but we must ask ourselves at what cost? At the very least, start the divorce proceedings because there is no respect from either the neighbor or the wife. She chose who she was going to follow when she decided it would be hilarious to demean her husband and consequently the neighbor's wife. This asshole just wanted to put everyone down to make himself feel powerful. She in fact submits to the neighbor, placing him in a position of power over her husband, herself, and her marriage. There is no more equal footing. In this case, perception is reality. Personally if people want to play these types of games their relationship is not healthy enough to sustain its members on an equal footing. It most certainly would be best if no legal relationship existed to ensure that they would submit willingly to these games instead of under duress. But then again, relationships are partially based on emotions which evolve or devolve over time.

JADED_ONE1969JADED_ONE1969over 16 years ago
Not My Ending!

Okay your the writer not me but as far as I'm concearned yes they had a chance of getting back together as long as the husband could trust the lie decector me personally I wouldn't but then that's me.The problem I have with this ending is no revenge has been done to Roger or to the wife who seems to have got off lightly.

Apart from that good story.

RandallRRandallRover 16 years ago
Well short of your potential....

Cause your Ch 01 had so much going for it...a suspenseful buildup, a non-wimp reactive husband, an unusual did they/did they not(for this genre)cheating scenario, and the deeper questions of love and honour/respect/betrayal/forsake all others/ etc left to answer.

Ch 02 seems lacking in the plot continuation area, it's like the lead character became a wimp after a couple of lonely weeks apart. Read some of the comments here and realise your Ch02 quickey isn't plausible in the scenario you created. The complex issues and strong character traits you developed in Ch01 just didn't carry through to this limp wristed sequel, and it's such an unlikely ending, kiss n make up and all's well - give us a break!

Even the females out there want to kick shit out of Flo! More likely he ends up a drunk or in a mental home after her mindscrewing antics return.

You're such a good writer based on past work that you likely will feel the need to reprise this mash and redevelop the thread from where you left Ch01. You know how to do it...a little retribution, consequences, cum-uppance, pain if you like and a happy ending so long as our hero is emancipated to a two-way caring relationship in the process.

PUR-LEASE!!

AnonymousAnonymousover 16 years ago
In All Fairness

I did like the first chapter very much, and in all fairness, you did not want to finish it so we can't bitch too much. Realizing you just wanted to finish, if we read between the lines about Flo seeing a shrink, we could say she is doing some soul searching and trying to change her ways and go back to respecting her husband. What she did was really BAD. I still don't think the husband would have been so quick to kiss and make up even if he did take her back. Trust takes time to rebuild and she should have a long rough time ahead to prove herself by her actions. And like Harry has said, he didn't do anything wrong, he even warned her about her behavior and the jokes repeatedly.

The Snipe

thebulletthebulletover 16 years ago
A little more accepting

<p>I, too was vaguely uncomfortable with this reconciliation. On the other hand, geez, if she really didn't do the dirty, then she's mostly guilty of being a heartless idiot.</p>

<p>Every married person is an idiot at some point in the marriage. You get in an argument; you say something stupid, hurtful. Whatever. There are a million ways to hurt your partner, and along the way during a marriage, most people bump up against several of them. </p>

<p>I'm not saying that she did doesn't deserve some major retribution and to perform a whole lot of groveling. But divorce? It's easy for the readers to demand divorce from an author. But what about their own spouses? Would that act warrant their own divorce?</p>

<p>If that's all it takes, we'd have a heck of a lot more single people running around.</p>

AnonymousAnonymousover 16 years ago
PROOF IS IN THE PUDDIN

Good and frustrating story. When Jim went over to Mary's to have his talk with Flo I kept waiting for Jim to ask Flo to make her little keening noise on demand. To see if she could reproduce it exactly without having an orgasm. That would have been the real test. My wife makes a little squeak from air rushing in her nose and mouth at the same time when she cums. She can imitate it when we aren't making love but it doesn't quite sound the same, close but it's just lacking something. Like Jim I live for that sound so I know it very well. The way you mentioned it I thought you would base Jim's decision on Flo replicating her sound on demand. Since Jim didn't check the bed after Roger ran out or her panties when she uncuffed him. Of course that would have ruined the whole plot. I really like your stories, great and different ideas. They could be fleshed out just a little. I like stories that get right to the point like yours but adding a few more details would really round em out. I don't care for stories that get so detailed that they go on and on until you lose interest so I guess it's a delicate balance. THANKS AGAIN I REALLY ENJOYED IT

marriedwithballsmarriedwithballsabout 16 years ago
A ;ot of readers think this is fiction

but it is all too true. Many people have a disease that causes them to constantly play jokes on others. Often these individuals, most are men, they will pick a person who just plain don't like the jokes the other guy pull. This will normally cause the jokester to become obsessed with pulling jokes on the other parson. These situations have actually led to violence. It's a rare occorence to find a wife that will play the part with the jokester against her husband but i imagine that it could exist. You the writer) was right to have the wife in this story seek consul. She was as sick as the joker. It's called folie aduex it means madness of two. You did a good job on this.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 16 years ago
Good story, all things considered

Not as good as many of your stories but it was consistent with the characters as you created them in chapter 01. My only complaint is the failure to show Roger getting his ass kicked around the block. He was the instigator of the stupid pranks, Flo was just the naive wife who played along with the stupid pranks. Did he get divorced?

the Ct Yankee

AnonymousAnonymousabout 16 years ago
You blew it

Why the hell didn't the husband call the police as soon as he got home and told them the story. Thare is a law, akin to kidnapping, about unlawful detainment, especially where injury to the detained party occurs. The bloody wounds on the wrist would have been sufficient. Then he could have charged his wife and roger with the crime. As they were led away he could have whispered to Roger and Flo..." don't worry...it's just a little joke of mine."

AnonymousAnonymousabout 16 years ago
This was the right course to take

I think that Agena took the right course in his decision to take his loving wife Flo back. Great Story! Yet, how could Flo have been involved in those jokes (acts) toward him to start with? RAG

AnonymousAnonymousabout 16 years ago
It was obvious the neighbor lacked respect for him

or his own wife Alice. That his wife actually conspired with the neighbor to act out sexual "jokes" on both of their spouses shows a deep lack of respect or love for them. It was an act of betrayal and disrespect whether sex occurred or not. The act of handcuffing him, their actions whether sex or not, that caused him to injure himself and prevent his ability to leave was pure and simple kidnapping and imprisonment as one reader wrote. This decision to divorce her was a good one but his lack of filing charges against both of the was a stupid decision. I have real problmes with people who say get over it, as if the husband did something wrong. It isnt the wronged parties obligation to forgive and accept what happened. It is thw wrong doers obligation to put what they have done right. Let her go back in time listen the first time he said not to do something and then relive the time without doing the second stupid act as a dare to force him to act. Personally I would have assumed this was their way to get their spouses to divorce them so that they could be togehter. There is nothing in the story that would prevent that from being the plan. Actually in reality lie detector test can be manipulated and a very good practiced liar, like the neighbor seems to be, would easily be able to invalidate the test. I would have insisted they prove they did not have sexual relations of any type, not just intercourse. Remember Bill Clintons it wasnt sex some folks dont consider oral or necking as sex (such as fingering off) and it be very easy to deny sexual acts and not tell a lie to the detector. There is nothing in the story to show the wife's personality and behavior pattern has been changed, only that she said it wont happen again, yeah right.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
sucker for? Love?

If you went for the gut reactions you succeeded :)

If it was me and I would have had a gun near I probably wouldn't had said a bad word to them. I would just have gotten that gun and shot them. to believe people to be able to play that twisted and get away with it? Nah. Women are much smarter than that :) Believe me. Try for a real life scenario next time.

Cheers

Yoron.

KOLKOREKOLKOREalmost 16 years ago
Too many busy bodies too little real answers...

I did not have so much of a problem with this ending (or any particular ending for that matter, but rather, I felt quite eroded by the way the story was told. I wish you could cut some of the many repetitions of the too many busy bodies which always seem to keep repeating their unsolicited advice/requests for the husband to ‘already take his poor wife back’… One ‘mind your own business’ or a more polite ‘it’s between me and my wife’ would have been not only refreshing change for this kind of a story (as this type of interaction with friend/family seems to be the automatic standard), but it would have given some space for more serious questions. For example: what happened in the wife’s mind after the first incident when the husband warned her not to repeat this type of pranks and his explanation that he finds them both upsetting and a serious dander to their marriage? Namely what part of: ‘don’t ever repeat it again’ she didn’t understand? Another question which he could have asked her: What exactly did she find fun/funny in the cruel physical imprisonment to her husband (just as he was protesting in the most urgent way)? Dealing with those questions (which the story itself planted the seeds of) would have taken the husband and I believe the reader to much better understanding and overall outcome of this story.

bornagainbornagainalmost 16 years ago
Jack Harlan

I think that Tester was in on the joke because it was Flo and Roger that called him in the first place to do the tests right?So maybe he wrote up the report and said in the report that they were telling the truth to get him to take Flo back

Pat .

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
I agree with another person below. They committed

a felony and both deserved criminal charges and jail time. My goodness she got away with this "joke" after two weeks, wonder what the next "joke" she plays on him will be, cutting off his dick and saying opps? The total disrespect and disloyalty to her husband were enough to end the marriage contract. Whether she actually committed adultry or not really wasnt even necessary. Had it been me, I guess both would have been dead very soon after, and I would have plead temporary insanity due to what they had done to me. Anyone and everyone pleading for him just the take the piece of trash back needs to be dropped from his list of known persons forever, they sense of reality and friendship are totally skewed.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
as normal harry is right

there is no reasonable way he should take her back

Tearsofsorrow2Tearsofsorrow2over 15 years ago
Reasonable way

First I like this story. The husband is not a wimp as in so many of these types of stories. However I do not believe given the evidence that I would ever forgive my wife for what Flo did. Having said that, the author gave a reasonable way for Flo to regain her marriage. She showed proper contrition at the right time. She made no excuses and did not try to defend herself or Roger. She placed herself completely at her husbands mercy. And that is a reasonable way, even if I would not take her back.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 15 years ago
2 too many

the 2 of them showed poor judgment, twice. even if they did not, the line was pushed too far. as for polygraph, not an infallible test. no, wrong ending i think.

inSanitylaneinSanitylanealmost 15 years ago
Cruel

I agree with Harryin VA but I liked the story and ending. I found myself wanting to question her on just why that was so funny to go to that extent(any would be wrong) to humiliate the husband. She cheated on him with every other aspect except sex. Those scars would be hard to overcome and as a spouse, I think you'd always be apprehensive about what she would do if she ever got bored in the future. Also, I was hoping for a list and answer dialog with the tests. More than just was the act a joke: "Do you like George more than a friend? Do you find it the slightest bit funny to humiliate me? Is cheating funny? Is torture funny? If I let it go afterword, would cheating be ok?" Many more questions, I think, would have been required. That having been said, I liked the story and ending... just wish it could have been more specific to the tests and more true dialog with the spouses.

inSanitylaneinSanitylanealmost 15 years ago
Almost Forgot

In part 1 when she says, "No Jim, please, nothing happened, nothing happened. What'll I tell the kids?" The correct response is "You tell them our marriage was a joke!"

crisscross2037crisscross2037almost 15 years ago
not worth the risk

My comment to Jack Harlon would you take a chance on losing your licnse and respect to be in on giving a false report what if he had wanted another test done by another tester then what.no he wouldn't risk that.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 15 years ago
great as usual

Agena,

Not that it's a mystery to you, but you do know how to weave a tale.

Matt Moreau

Vulcan_in_OhioVulcan_in_Ohioalmost 15 years ago
Amazing how some stories keep generating comments.

Even though this story was written quite a while ago, readers continue to read it and to write comments about it. Definitely the sign of a good story. I agree with many comments but I did think of one more observation that I did not see mentioned. One reader pointed out that Flo shared her orgasm noise with Roger, which itself is inappropriate. But what is also evident, assuming there really was no sex and the lie detector testing was accurate, is that Flo is capable of reproducing her orgasm sound at will. If she can do this with Roger so that husband Jim, chained to the post in the basement, would be fooled into believing she really had an orgasm, then how would he know if she faked an orgasm and made that sound during the many times she and Jim have had sex over the years? In other words, maybe she has been pretending to climax during sex with Jim for who knows how long . . . Since trust issues have reared their ugly heads, this revelation that Flo can easily fake an orgasm could further undermine Jim's self-esteem. I would personally have a tough time letting go of my anger and were I Jim, there would not have been reconciliation, but that's just my point of view. Thanks for a timeless story.

AnonymousAnonymousover 14 years ago
You reconciliation at any cost avoids most of the

major problems in this story. MOst practical jokers like Roger are antisocial and have in some cases real mental issues, problems to us realist. Why he has chosen Flo as his Abbott is a real question that hasnt been asked. Why Flo was so infatuated with Roger then becomes are real issue. She falls right into line against her husband with Roger over the objections of Alice and her husband. The planning of him being cuffed in the basement, the wife being sent away, them going upstairs and and the noises and words that evoked the scene had to have been preplanned not spontaneous. The used forced restraint on her husband even after he requested to be releases and promised actions to follow. That folks is a crime plain and simple it is no longer a joke. He is severely injured in his attempts to gain his freedom. How does he know they dont plan to kill him after their sexual romp? Rogers wife is deceived and humiliated by the actions being treated as no more than a small child by her husband and Flo. Where is her divorce action. Finally a person that knows about lie detectors can manipulate them by controlling and releasing their emotional and mental states. Without supporting evidence the lie detector itself is almost useless. Wow, did we even consider in the planning of this elaborate hoax the two actually did have sex? Or were planning to later after they convinced both their spouses that any such actions were just jokes. He can no longer trust his wife despite her words, he knows she willingly deceived and humiliated him not just once and this time it was major. He knows she totally disrespects him because she chose after the previous event to carry out this scene. Whether she committed adultry or not is small compared to the criminal acts and the lack of respect and love she showed her husband. This marriage was over long before this, divorce is the only possible outcome with just eliminating her and Roger. Wow, wouldnt it be a joke if the two of them went off and just disappeared one day never to return.

AnonymousAnonymousover 14 years ago
Failing in the conclusion

I really enjoyed the first chapter, but it deffinately wasn't a stand alone story. It seemed the second chapter was something the author didn't really want to write and was short, hurried, and not well thought out. The wife was unstable and the husband made a major mistake in accepting her back so easily. I'm sure they were divorced within two years. The husband next door needs a beating. anon jerry

AnonymousAnonymousover 14 years ago
Reconsile at all costs

Live the rest of your life as a spineless, dickless man while the wife plays you like a violin. This story sucks as badly as anything I have read here. The first chapter held a lot of promise that the ending just destroyed. anon jerry

AnonymousAnonymousover 14 years ago
Perhaps a better way to evaluate this comes in

two parts. Have the wife sit down and consider what she would have thought and done were it she in the basement listening to what her husband was upstairs doing with another woman. The yourself consider the following scene, you and your wife are still in the dating stage before marriage and this stunt was pulled on you, what would you have done? He would have never dated the slut again whether she actually had sex or not. Simple isnt it. The wife totally disrespected, humiliated, and betrayed him. The scene they put on was criminal you dont forcibly handcuff a person to a pipe and leave them there, that is criminal and should have had a case filed. The wife was a party to this kidnapping/detention and should have had her own time in court. To force them back together as done in this story is totally unbelievable how could he even go to sleep with her in house or even eat food she cooked, he could never trust her again.

peteinchicagopeteinchicagoabout 14 years ago
well written story but

I didn't like the ending. First of all, he let them pick the test administrator, they could easily have bribed him. Second, lie detector tests can be beat, that's why they aren't considered to be evidence in a courtroom. Third, even if he had selected the questions carefully enough to eliminate clintonesque definitions of 'sex,' the handcuffs took it beyond a practicle joke. Fourth, why was he so apologetic, he had warned her after the kissing incident yet she still escilated it for the second joke. there was no we who got off track in the marriage, she got off track when she decided her loyalty to Roger was of greater importance than her loyalty to her husband and his feelings. Fifth, who cares what the son thinks, its not his life, he doesn't have to live with such a disrspectful cunt, he shouldn't get any input.

its your story and you can end it how you want to, but this ending didn't so much for me, sorry.

DewpawDewpawabout 14 years ago
Was It Bill Clintons Definition Of Sex

Was one of the lie detector questions whether they had oral sex? That would explain her sounds of an orgasm---while they answered no, they did not have sex.

size14shoesize14shoealmost 14 years ago
Elapsed time

We read the story and are left with the upset that the "joke" brings up in us.

Husband has 2 weeks to let in all the options at his disposal. After weighing all evidence and thoughts he then has a conversation with his wife to determine what he is going to do. Her taking full responsibility, seeking professional help to get to the source of the problem and her demonstration of her love gives him hope that they can successfully rebuild the marriage.

What's the fucking problem here?

I pity the assholes who feel it's more important to be right and punish than it is to have the marriage work. The husband stated he didn't want some slave in the house, he wanted the woman he married back. Thus he took responsibility for his part in the marriage currently not working.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 14 years ago
what story did YOU read size14shoe?

you ask what is the problem here?...

the issue is IMPRISONING your spouse .... fucking some other man... maybe... and even Worse NOT caring how your husband MIGHT react.

it NEVER occurs to the wife that her husband MIGHT freak out.

what you dont get is that the ISSUE/ problem is NOT just having a

1 night stand or pretending to

The PROBLEM is that the wife didnt give a shit if her husband was dead or alive.

Rob ConnerRob Connerover 13 years ago
Sorry. This Tine I Have to go***

With the kick the Bitch to the curb set. She showed total disrespect for her marriage and her husband. What she did was unforgiveable. Better to kick her out and start over with someone that respected him.

AnonymousAnonymousover 13 years ago
this is the second story I read of you

and you really like to beat about the bush! this story is 3 years old and it was better cause you only once did not go to the point. but heck it would be really interesting to know why the hell she started disrespecting him so much, instead of telling us you wrote she went to a psychology for help. the newest is worse not a word at all.

I still have to give you 4 stars for a good story and I appreciate the voting here and the chance to read the opignion of others

Fran26Fran26over 13 years ago
boyfriend read it

I made my boyfriend read it.

According to him if i ever pulled a stunt like that and disrespected him to that extent . Even with ten polygraphs tests proving I told the truth, He would never take me back and the guy involved would probably never walk straight again after he was finished with him.

Sans rancune

Fran26

AnonymousAnonymousover 13 years ago
Old Story; beginning great, ending sucks!

If my wife had ever pulled such a "joke" on me, she would be history. Perception is 90% of reality and the failure of Flo to honor and respect her husband is simply too much to accept. Not only would she be history, but there would be an absolute absence of any more interaction in the future.

As for Roger..a Louieville slugger would adjust his attitude permanently.

demantoiddemantoidabout 13 years ago
Night and Day.

What a terrific first part of this story. It was well plotted, had crisp dialogue and had terrific tension. These propelled this story with excitement and a "must read" dynamo. I flew through the sentences with delicious relish. Then I read this ending. Pathetic! Zwieback! So flaccid. There was no tension...just limp dialogue. This was a very childish and immature conclusion. The last sentence shouldn't absolve the author. Poor camaflauge. What a JOKE!

VickieTernVickieTernalmost 13 years ago
Reciprocity

is not served, and her mumbling to some shrink restores no balance either. She needed to endure the same real disrespect for the integrity of their marriage, and have her own trust in her husband tempted, by him MAYBE also screwing a woman in her hearing (or maybe have them simply emerge from the bedroom together naked and flushed, then have them grin at her and cry "April Fool!" with nothing more explained. Same lie detector tests etc to follow. Then see whether what she's capable of believing matters. I doubt the marriage could sustain it, and I doubt it should. Some things are sacred, a husband's sense of his own manhood certainly one of them. She's a twit.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 13 years ago
correct amount of contrition

Flo would be on a 'one strike and you're out' program after that joke; however, she was sorry and seemed to understand how badly she screwed up.

LordSlamdawggLordSlamdawggover 12 years ago
"The quality of justice is tempered by mercy"-SIGH

The author caught a (un) fair amount for the reconciliation at the end but my thinking is that they had twenty-plus years of a solid marriage, the offense was grievous but both sincere gestures of remorse and atonement were made by Flo . This doesn't Mean I think I think the story's perfect ... That damm Roger got off ( pun semi-intended) wAAAy too easy.5 stars and my thanks to the author regardless.

MarvinSMarvinSover 12 years ago
Ending

I stand by what I said after Ch. 01 -- the ending there was complete enough.

AnonymousAnonymousover 12 years ago
A great story

I thoroughly enjoyed reading your stories. Thank-you.

cueball961cueball961about 12 years ago
Fine For Him, But Not For Me!

I waited until I read both installments before I weighed in on this mind bending story. As I have hinted in my comment title I would have handled this situation much differently to say the least.

The neighbor is a complete ass, that is a given. One of the first problems I had with the story is the simple question, why did the husband put up with the escalating "practical jokes" up until they reached critical mass? Long before things reached the point they did I would have stopped seeing this idiot in a social setting. And for me, the conduct of the wife, regardless of whether she actually committed adultery, is unforgiveable. This was no joke. It was physchological torture, and was technically a crime as well. The husband was assaulted and held without his consent just for starters. I know my response to this would have been simple, even if I had let things get to this unimaginable point. There would have been no warning for the neighbor to leave before I was released. When the cuffs came off he would have prayed to die by the time I was through with him.

The wife in this story is an absolute headcase. She clearly has issues. Hell, I have as good a sense of humor as the next man. A little good natured teasing is fine between friends. But when it obviously becomes painful, and certainly when the offended party clearly makes known their discomfort, it's time to stop. This woman ignored her husbands feelings and went beyond the pale to humiliate him. There is no possible way she could love this man and treat him the way she did. I would have had no choice but to wash my hands of her. But what is proper and sensible for me is not always what someone else would do.

The story made me quite uncomfortable and angry frankly. However, the premise of the plotline was unique. I've never seen a situation like this dealt with and it made me think. Anything new under the sun that causes any amount of self reflection is worth four stars.

nakdsubnakdsubabout 12 years ago
Okay, you redeemed yourself.

I was ticked when I read the first chapter and didn't see there was a second. I liked the story, but I do wish he had let Roger take the cuffs off then belted him.

Oh, by the way, I gave this chapter 5* to make up for the 3* I gave to the first chapter.

BetterEndingBetterEndingabout 12 years ago
Interesting Story

This was an interesting story with a different take on faithfulness or the lack thereof. I have mixed emotions about the reconciliation, but I think the author was on the mark with the wife's admission of her problem and the husband's thoughts that that admission was the only way back. The fact that she would participate in such a "joke" after what they had gone through previously was almost a deal breaker for me.

The son's continuing attitude was a bit disturbing. Perhaps in another story he could have the opportunity to walk in his father's shoes.

Good story. Thanks.

BTTapBTTapabout 12 years ago
I don't understand the wife

At all. She loves her hubby, has a long happy marriage to him and all of that. She is devastated when he throws her out. She knows he doesn't like the practical jokes, etc. Then, she goes along with such a completely vile one? How is that even remotely funny?

I liked the first story quite a bit. The wife was a mystery, but I liked how the situation presented itself and how the hubby reacted. It made for a crazy tension-filled moment. This story resolved the issue. I get the hubby being ok with the truth, and recognizing the wife's pain and regret and sorrow, etc. I don't even have a problem with him taking her back.

However, he never gets the answers to the real question: why? How could she do that to him, and why? How could that be seen as funny? It was psychological (and physical) torture. Did she even, for a moment, consider what his experience would be under the circumstances? Did she not realize that it would be painful for him, that he would in no way find that funny? Great, she's going to a pychologist to figure out why she did it. I would want those questions answered before agreeing to reconciliation. I mean, what she did was intentionally harm her hubby in a very fundamental way-torture, abuse, hurt-call it what you want. She has a twisted, sadistic side to her that would concern me greatly.

I wish that would have been explored more.

But, I gave the first story 5 stars for creativity and writing style. I give this one 4.

cantbuymycantbuymyalmost 12 years ago
i dont buy it

she was wet aftre the first "joke" she pulls it again - there is no such thing as a lie detector - it monitors a few things but not lying - asking if the had "sex" when there is no specific questions about touching parts of one body with specific parts of the other persons body - the fact is - she needs to be out of his life. i would have forced an arrest, told about the first incident and the second, sent them to prison. filed a lawsuit naming both of them as defendants in false imprisonment and intentional infliction of emotional distress and taken every penny i could. then maybe the little woman and i could talk, but not until my "joke" was over.

TavadelphinTavadelphinalmost 12 years ago
Well thought out

The finish was a good one -

Like the politician's say she got out ahead of the story by acknowledging her complicity and guilt for doing what she did -

Is it enough - for him yes - and that is the privilege of the author - if you do not like it write your own ending -

Well written by the way - a couple of nice extra curves (like the son supporting mom) nice touch

EgoTrixiEgoTrixiover 11 years ago
Very interesting...

...and nicely written. I really enjoyed reading this story and hope you will keep up with similar ones. 5 Stars.

betrayedbylovebetrayedbyloveover 11 years ago
Decent

Decent ending of your tale. It was smart that you made them move away in the end. A non-cheating wife tale. Very good.

BfreetorunBfreetorunover 11 years ago
He still should have kicked Roger's ass.

I would have thought about sueing him for the handcuff's injury, his homeowner's liability would have paid out. Under the circumstances (with her statement) I would have taken my wife back.

Drbeamer3333Drbeamer3333over 11 years ago
Loved it!

It was a hard decision to make, but he did the right thing. Well done.

kakashi524kakashi524over 11 years ago
Weak

Agena, your heart simply wasn't into this story and you just wrote something just to end it and I think you already know it. I loved part 1, it was simply an amazing story and was expecting something similar to conclude it but I found this chapter weak and short.

I already read ch2 by Tx Tall Tales and it was too strong a response to the joke.

One too weak, the other too strong. A shame we didn't get a good balance.

semofuncpl3semofuncpl3about 11 years ago
What a dumb fuck!

Lie detectors are not fool proof, that is why they are not admissible in a court of law. I sure wouldn't trust a lying slut virtue on one.

phil2213phil2213about 11 years ago
Great ending

The underlying issue was not about sex but loyalty and respect. Anytime there are jokes involve the humiliation of another person there is a risk of hurt feelings and bruised egos. The initiator of the joke should be aware that there is a potential risk to their relationship with the target of their joke as this story demonstrates. The fact that the main characters were married presented the element of a very huge risk on the part of the wife. The story was well presented and described more from the perspective of the target of the joke than the perpetrator. The emotion was huge thru the story and flowed well. The advent of putting the wife and accomplice thru lie detector was high handed and drastic. I was happy with the outcome but more of what the moral issue or theme of humiliation and disrespect of another human being.

myassisdraginmyassisdraginalmost 11 years ago
Roger should have been charged.....

The police would have taken a very dim view of Roger handcuffing Jim like he did, that would have brought a charge of "Ilegal confinement" at least if not worse.

OneShotOneOneShotOneover 10 years ago
fair to middling effort

Never trust a lie detector test.

javmor79javmor79over 10 years ago
Great story. Lie detectors aren't full proof, but they aren't easy to beat either.

Great story. While it is true that lie detector tests aren't fool proof, two people taking a test with the same questions is about as good as it can get. No they aren't admissible in court, but to be honest you have a be a real sociopath or a trained liar to beat the test. Getting two people to beat it is almost impossible (unless they are Sharon Stone or CIA agents). Plus, lie detectors are more frowned upon in court because of their false positives (showing an answer as a lie because the person is nervous). An in all honesty, did she seem like a person who was cuckolding her husband? C'mon people. There is being cautious and there is just plain paranoid. On a side note, I am willing to bet that the same people that are saying that Lie Detectors can't be trusted would be taking the results to the bank if it came back that they were lying.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 10 years ago
@javmor79: Lie detector tests

I read a study where the scientists came to the conclusion that a polygraph test was about as useful as using a Ouija board.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 10 years ago
Enjoy the author!

But if this had been my wife, her ass would still be skidding down the road....

rightbankrightbankalmost 10 years ago
You really didn't want to write this

and it shows. too bad.

I agree that it all comes down to respect and trust. she lost his respect because of her own actions. she enjoyed disrespecting him with roger. good ole roger deserves some retribution whupped on him.

vikingprincevikingprincealmost 10 years ago
Rushed and unfulfilling

Your lack of enthusiasm for writing the ending really shows. Great premise and start but you it seems you kind of ran out of steam on the ending. The lack of respect would have ended it for me. Siding with anyone like that against one's spouse is infidelity.

KarenEKarenEover 9 years ago
Re Rushed

While I'll give you somewhat of a pass as you never intended to have a second part, I do think it was a little too pat.

ErotFanErotFanover 9 years ago
Your heart wasn't in it

Now I'll go back and read some of the alternate endings by others that I swerved into.

AnonymousAnonymousover 9 years ago
Failed

I really like your stories but in this instance you have 'under-sold' yourself.

You could have written this more from the wife's side and shown just how much her 'joke' had cost her and possibly the various 'tongue-lashings from children, sister & therapist. Would have been a fun story to write -- and why not write it? After-all - isn't that what writing these stories is about? Just do it!

KarenEKarenEover 9 years ago
Re-Reading

Moving away is not enough.

First, Roger should be banned from their house for one year, and they should stay away from his house. Alice can come visit without Roger.

When Roger is allowed back, Flo is to have NO involvement with ANY of his practical jokes, even if they aren't aimed at Jim, and if she learns of any aimed at Jim she is to warn him.

If Roger still manages to prank Jim, he is banned for TWO years, and a further offense bans him for life.

KarenEKarenEover 9 years ago
No Way Forgiveness!

I don't care HOW sorry she is NOW, or how much she realizes she was wrong.

He has made it abundantly clear how he feels about Roger's "jokes", and if his reaction to the "etching" joke wasn't clear enough for her, then there is no hope for her.

shadowdustershadowdusterover 9 years ago
I do not like jokers

I wish Jim could find a real good joke to pull on Roger. But the problem is that the Jokers get real upset if the joke is on them . They have so little self esteme that when the joke is on them they want to fight.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
bad

the premise was absolutely stupid, this ending is even worse. 1*

AncientTravellerAncientTravellerabout 9 years ago
Wimp of the year???

A wimp of herostratic proportions. No real man would accept such a complete lack of respect.

BfreetorunBfreetorunalmost 9 years ago
There are about four other endings floating around.

Tx Tall Tales wrote the second best but there was one better, I do not remember now who wrote it. Then there are a couple of others. If I remember the best one I will come back and put it on here.

Tim413413Tim413413almost 9 years ago
1st chapter = got awfully tired of "perceive."

If they were next-door neighbors, why did our hero get in his car and drive home? This chapter had lots of strange wording = "...you, as my husband,..." Tags sucked. A nice little story, but the 2nd chapter fell way short. Why not have the lie detector guy ask if she had ever cheated with anyone?

Pappy7Pappy7over 8 years ago
Practical jokes aren't about

humor, they are about disrespect. As for the wife joining in and having to be constantly told that the husband of 24 years didn't like it, I call bullshit on that. We hadn't been married a year yet and my wife knew exactly what I would put up with and what I wouldn't put up with. And I knew what her boundaries were. The first few "jokes" would have gotten them a stern talking to. The "etchings" joke would have gotten his head busted open and her a trip to her sister's house with a one way ticket. If and I really mean if, it had gotten to the last joke I would have killed both of them in his basement and swore to God that I was in tremendous fear for my life. That would have been a joke to inspire a really good laugh down the road.

Don't want to be cuckolded, don't put up with that shit for a minute. Wife has to know and respect your boundaries, same for hers.

MorganDeWolfeMorganDeWolfeover 8 years ago
Perfect!

Perfect ending for the Wimps and Willing Cuckolds out there.

However I'm not one of them. 1* only because there isn't a -10* button.

Morgan DeWolfe

kjohns2001kjohns2001over 8 years ago
Sometimes jokes aren't funny

Practical jokers sometimes go too far. In this case the joke nearly destroyed a marriage. Given the circumstances outlined in this story I can understand why the husband would decide to keep her. Even with that being said though I would have to say that they would have a lot of work to do to get anywhere near back to where they were before the jokes began. The biggest positive I see would have to be the fact that the wife starts seeing a therapist. Secondly, even though it is not discussed directly in the story, is that they stopped all contact with the neighbors.

I don't have a problem with how the author ended the story. I still think that the author uses the story to teach an important lesson about going too far with jokes, taking relationships for granted and how hard it is to regain trust once it's lost. I know it's not often mentioned but communication is vital to any relationship, and that means not just talking but actually listening to what the other person says and then taking it to heart.

In another comment someone called the husband a wimp. I don't agree. He was not a wimp, just a man who truly trusted his wife not to hurt him or their marriage. This is why I think everyone should have prenups and firm ground rules on what is and isn't going to be allowed if a couple are to marry. Better to be safe than sorry.

AnonymousAnonymousover 8 years ago
the ending

I liked your ending. Good job.

sbrooks103sbrooks103over 8 years ago
Blah!

Chapter 1 –

He got in his CAR and headed home? I thought they were next door neighbors.

I’m sure Flo has some CLOTHS, but the things she wears are CLOTHES!

Even IF they didn’t do “anything” he told her after the first etchings joke to cut it out, and she totally ignored his wishes. The total lack of respect is pretty close to a deal breaker.

Chapter 2 –

Just TOO neat, with her suddenly coming to understand the wrongness of her actions. Why she didn't realize it after the "necking" incident is beyond me.

Drbeamer3333Drbeamer3333over 8 years ago
Second time through...

Lacked the drama of chapter one.

Tootight1Tootight1over 8 years ago
2nd or 3rd read

I even read the other renditions of this story. The story and ending is rather neatly put together. I don't see how any ending could be wrong, seeing how there was no prelude to there marriage situation, which would have given more insight into their character. usually practical jokes slow down when you mature, or the joker becomes the victim, and feels what they have been dishing out. I don't think this story is about a practical joke, basically because it wasn't a joke at all. That should be evident to the reader from the necking practical joke, that wasn't.

At this point, after many reads, and thought, I think he should divorce her. Why, because she not only disrespected her hubby, but the marriage itself, and herself. I also think that if he still has the mind that he needs her that much, they could date and start over, but both having a clearer picture of what is involved in a marriage. judging the reaction of the kids, they are going to have their own problems soon also, in not regarding what she did as anything special, and he should forget it. The question of how they came up with their reaction, should give some insight as to how they were raised, or what they saw growing up.

GoodhueGoodhueabout 8 years ago
Not Quite!

There's got to be something wrong with their relationship/marriage if she could allow a known practical joker liker Roger sway her to making her husband think that she cheated on him!And that after that whole lipstick thing that he'd made very clear he didn't appreciate. ~ Still think Roger slipped her the tube-steak if,for no other reason than her signature sound of cumming,that she'd be very hard pressed to replicate considering her very distracted state while cumming!

Tootight1Tootight1about 8 years ago
good story

a bit neat for an author, but ok. I don't know how many times I read this story and it's different renditions, but I finally caught the story in the first chapter this time. I commented on it earlier. The fly in the ointment, was an elephant in the ointment. If she was making those keening sounds and they were fake, then what does that say about their 23 years of marriage?

Did he love her, that goes without question. did she love him, now there's a question.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 8 years ago
I hope this puts a closure to the story for all those that wrote asking for my ending.

nope! divorce is the only option for that kind of disrespect.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 8 years ago
The joke's on you.

There is a old Mexican expression that goes-" Entre broma y broma la verdad se asoma". Translation- in every joke a grain of truth shows up. That grain of truth is that she had already cuckolded her husband in her mind. Familiarity breeds contempt and she was filled with contempt for her husband. Any time a woman takes up with another man against her husband she has crossed the line into adultry. She did get royally fucked by the neighbor and she knows it. He is a slow witted husband who is willing to accept her pack of lies and lay down like a whipped dog. Why didn't he raise her dress and put some fingers into her twat when they turned him loose? He would have found all the proof he needed. A twat full of semen.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 8 years ago
Yes Roger And Flo Were Guilty

Cuckolding her husband by handcuffing Ron and torturing his mind and emotions and making him helpless to the torture makes them guilty of infidelity. Each of Roger's jokes become increasingly more ruthless and demeaning. And Flo's continued participation makes keeping her as his wife exponentially impossible. Flo has proven that she wants Ron in her life only as a cuckold. A cuckold is nothing more than a pet...no longer a husband to be respected and loved.

CarnilliaCarnilliaalmost 8 years ago
Nice story but a lot of things were left unresolved.

First of all I have nothing against reconciliation stories. I like them when they are believable and when the author success to show the real motivation behind what happened. This is not the case. As Many pointed out, her willing participation in those horrid jokes showed that she didn't loved and respected her husband. And the she also had adultery in her mind. Ineed more background about what lead her to do what she did and why is she so remorseful. I think he took her back really quick.

AnonymousAnonymousover 7 years ago
DIVORCE!!

Ass kicking and divorce is the only option to a MAN.

AnonymousAnonymousover 7 years ago
Two Things

First, Jim should have told his kids to shut up and butt out, period. Meddling kids

usually only make marital problems worse. There's an old saying, kids should be

seen and not heard. And that goes double when they're trying to insert themselves

into a marital squabble. Secondly, Jim should find Roger and beat the holy fucking

cowboy shit out of him. I'm talking broken arms, broken legs, crushed fingers, and

a face that looks like a truck ran over it.

I'm just sayin'......

Tootight1Tootight1over 7 years ago
good story

I don't know how many times I have read this story, and all of its re-writes by different authors. It's still good. They say that the highest compliment is being copied, and this story certainly has that. Personally I probably would have taken her back, but that's me. Some of the other renditions where edited, and filled in a lot of questions that the readers had, that were not in this original story. Each edition changed the complexion of the story for me. Oh well, great story, as written, read the other editions to see how the story changes, just by filling in some details.

sbrooks103xsbrooks103xover 7 years ago
Re-Reading

From Ch 01: "what bothered me even more was Flo's enjoyment of his pranks, especially if I was on the receiving end" - So, even before the "etchings" incident she 1) knew he didn't like his pranks, and 2) enjoyed his pranks ESPECIALLY when Jim was the target. Now, I'll cut her a LITTLE slack that she maybe didn't quite realize just how much they bothered Jim, but how in the hell can she take special enjoyment in her husband being pranked? She should be standing by him, not laughing with Roger.

Now, KNOWING her husband is bothered by the pranks, again maybe not realizing just how much, she actually participates in one! This time, Jim leaves ZERO doubt about how much he is bothered. Now she KNOWS for a 100% sure fact that he doesn't find ANYTHING funny about this. So what does she do? She ups the ante! She participates in an even MORE extreme prank that totally humiliates and injures her husband, and he takes her back? Sorry, not buying it.

IF he is going to take her back, she should have to do a "Game of Thrones" walk of shame - he shears all her hair off, and she walks naked from one end of their street to the other! If she is really sincere in her apology she will do it, but I doubt that she would!

bworth1943bworth1943almost 7 years ago
stone cold

I've re-read this story again after reading all the other authors versions. I would have still dumped her, just for the massive disrespect she showed. The sex or lack there of,

does not matter. The intent to humiliate hubby was clear. Not really a joke.

Good by, sad excuse of a wife.

danoctoberdanoctoberalmost 7 years ago
Great story...terrible ending.

Needed a torched earth ending. Still well written. 😒😒😒😒😒

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 7 years ago
Bottom line...

This guy was humiliated, and brutalized emotionally and physically, for her pleasure and the pleasure of another man. Who gives a fuck if it was laughter instead of orgasms? This woman is a disrespectful piece of shit.

Tootight1Tootight1over 6 years ago
good story

"I won't be cuckolded. I told Flo that many times and as far as I'm concerned she cuckolded me and now its over." Gee, this has to say something, doesn't it.

I don't know how I missed that statement before, but I did. Apparently she had mentioned this before right? It's not in the story anywhere else.

This story has been re-written many times by many authors, so it has to be a compliment to the author for that.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
NO

Of course, it's your story and you can write it in any way you want, but there are a lot of things unresolved.

First, of course there is disrepect she showed to her husband once and again. When there is lvoe there is respect. If there is no respect, then there is not love.

Second, if you write that we hear a shot, then we think a gun was fired. if then you say that no gun was fired, you have to explain what that noise came from. However you ignored completely the fact that she was making the same noises that she used to do during sex. Was she faking them? Sorry, I dont buy it.

Third, What about Roger? No revenge? No consequences? Not a single mention?

I've read much better sequels than your own.

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