All Comments on 'Anger Management'

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JADED_ONE1969JADED_ONE1969almost 16 years ago
Nice story.

People on this site will slate the husband for taking back the wife, and truth be told I probably wouldn't either.BUT I have never been in this situation I don't really know how I would react. My first instinct would be kick the wife to the floor and get rid of her. But there was a lot of time invested in this marriage and you have to consider the kids as well. By the end of the story I would say the outcome was what it should be. To those who would 'ditch the bitch' think carefully if this happened to them would they really do that?. Anyway good story, well written.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Superb as always

I can always count on an intelligent along with a well crafted and flowing tale from you. Thanks for the entertainment.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Real Life

This story has a real feel to it and I enjoyed it very much. Thanks for the effort.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Good

I liked the story and it's outcome. It made me wonder a couple of times though what happened to her before the children were born when she was moody so often. Had she then been having an affair too? or was it just a state of mind where she was feeling she needed more that what her marriage was giving her and which was eventuelly solved with the birth of their fist. Even during her pregnancy then wasn't she all that loving. During the couseling, her moods before the 1ste child were never adressed. G.Belgium

bruce22bruce22almost 16 years ago
Fine Story

Very well told and interesting. It would be nice to know what the husband could have done to keep the predator off his territory. I do not feel that two wrongs make a right and there are an infinity of possible wrongs to be committed by us poor human beings and very little we can do to set things right.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Grounded

i like the story. sometimes, its alot easier to just get a divorce, but if you can work it out, it''ll be a happier more satisfying life.

BigFtHunterBigFtHunteralmost 16 years ago
Good work coaster

Thanks for continuing to write and grace us with your stories.

Risq_001Risq_001almost 16 years ago
My problem isn't that the husband took her back...

<p>Its that the story set it up so that the wife really wasn't responsible for her actions. That a predator and a quick temper made her do it. Or as Flip Wilson used to say so many years ago "The devil made her do it"</p>

<p>This is why I have a problem with it. The term <i>Predator</i> is so over used now a days. The term is used for someone who preys on the unaware or uninformed. Usually "children". But in recent years it is used for (and by) <i><b>anyone</b></i> who has a relationship with someone else and then later they regret it. If someone sees someone they like and tries to start a relationship (sexual or otherwise), and the other person returns the interest, but later the other person regrets it after enjoying that person company, the other person who started off with initial interest is called a predator. Why? If they someone is unwilling and is force to have sex, it's calling rape. If they were forced through threats its called blackmail, and still possibly rape (depending on the circumstances). But if they willing do it, with no more than someones passing interest in them and they jump at the chance, and then later regret it after they've done it, why do stories persist in saying that they have been worked on by a Predator? So any guy who sees a girl he's interested sitting in a bar is a Predator if he goes up and tries to start some form of relationship with her? Is the act of showing interest in someone somehow negating their abilities to say "Sorry I can't I'm married" and ignore him from that point forward? I guess the "It's not my fault" logic really bugs me a times. </p>

<p>I can see it with children. They are ill equipped and don't have the years of experience that comes with dealing with people. But why would a woman of 30+ years have an affair and their "marriage counselor" tell them it wasn't her fault? Like somehow she didn't know right from wrong? Would you really want someone who can't tell right from wrong, at least 3 times that she can admit too, raising your kids? I understood the guilt getting to her and her confessing it. That I saw as a good thing towards reconciling. But what killed it was the psycho babble about how it wasn't her fault and she was taken advantage of. If woman aren't capable of saying "No I will not let you put your hands on me. No I will not let you put your tongue in my mouth. I will not follow you to <i><b>your</b></i> apartment to let you have sex with me in <i><b>your</b></i> your bed. And I will certainly let you have sex with me in any way shape or form" then why do we let them out in public? I like to think it's because most of them are capable of accepting the role of being adults.</p>

<p>The story alleges that because he had sex with her as an end goal and left that made him a predator. But I have to ask what was "her" end goal? To leave her family for him? To have sex with him till "she" was ready to break it off? See its not fair to call one person a predator due to motives and not the other <i><b>extremely</b> willing</i> party the same. Just because she didn't go looking to cheat doesn't make her not at fault that she kept going back for more. Or even let it get as far as it did the first time. They both got the warm and fuzzes that come during the act of sex. And in some cases leading up to the act.</p>

<p>While I thought the reconciliation was well thought out, and more believable than a lot I've read on this site, the fact that this "Doctor" convinced everyone that she wasn't to be blamed because she was incapable of telling right from wrong killed the story for me, and not the fact they stayed together. Heck I've even read a couple of comments about how the husband could have kept this guy from sniffing around. The husband should trust his wife enough to let <i>her</i> keep the guys at bay. She managed to do it before she married him, somehow I believe she is still capable of doing after she says "I do" to him in front of friends and family</p>

-Risq

Zeb40Zeb40almost 16 years ago
Disturbing!

I found this one made me a little uncomfortable. The idea of a happily married wife being so easily led into an affair goes counter to my beliefs. I don't think that was completely explained, even in the counseling. Nevertheless, I was readily able to accept the reconciliation because the wife seemed to be truly contrite. I could see how her overwhelming guilt could affect her relationships with her family, since I'm sure many of us have taken things out on some innocent party, albeit unknowingly.

Anyway, a story that can make me think like this one deserves high marks. Better than most postings these days. Paul.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Good

I think these are the hardest stories to write. They don't have as clear path to the end, and there are always questions of "what if" left. Hence, they are realistic and very interesting to me. You have done well coaster2.

SalamisSalamisalmost 16 years ago
An enjoyable read

<p>I expect stories involving cheating wives to focus either on the cheaters or on the one(s) they harm. Coaster2 decided to focus on the latter and to include the children, and that made for a much richer story.</p>

<p>Like Risq_001, I too thought that the idea of Rebecca’s lover being a predator was a bit of a stretch. Predators have names, and this man remained anonymous for a reason. He came into her life quickly and exited just as fast. There was no lasting connection to him nor did either party seek one. That individual was simply a user, and he merited no particular distinction beyond that.</p>

<p>How different a turn would the story have taken if her lover had been a neighbor a friend or a coworker? What would that have said of the wife’s motives?</p>

<p>Instead, this wife had a sexual affair encompassing three encounters over a week, a year before her confession; and she managed to hide it from everyone. In fact, the author put down such a good foundation about this woman, that by the time of her admission, I was just as surprised as her husband was. I thought she was perhaps bi-polar or depressed. </p>

<p>Where this story excelled was in the description, and then the explanation of the psychological makeup’s of both the husband and wife. It all made sense at the end. The reasons for their behaviors fit.</p>

<p>This was a story of a family in crisis. The cheating brought on that crisis, but there was enough fodder in this marriage that I could have envisioned other events having a similar impact.</p>

<p>Thanks for a very enjoyable read.</p>

gatorhermitgatorhermitalmost 16 years ago
Risq is Correct Once Again

This story is well written, but Risq's comments are very correct - Rebecca could have / should have said "no" (of course then there would be no story). Warren is a candidate for sainthood for his course of action - keeping his family together in spite of his pain, which was well portrayed. Interesting that he can proceed without getting something on the side for himself to restore balance to the relationship - I think I'd be sorely tempted to do so.

Harryin VAHarryin VAalmost 16 years ago
well written but TOTAL bullshit

The "BIG" scene between the Therapist and both spouses is fucking absurd. <b>HOW did the therapist KNOW that the Loss of her parents 5 years ago made her VULNERABLE to "the other guy" 4 years later !?!?! </b>

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In the immortal words of John MacEnroe... you cannot be fucking serious.

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But the worst part is the therapist pathetic assertions that the wife is "filled with Remorse". She is not because

the <b>2nd BIG issue outside of her cheating is NEVER dealt with at all.</b>

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The wife held her secret in for a year... shit all over her family... and ONLY agreed to confess AFTER her kids pleaded with her.

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Warren's fellings? who gives a fuck!. He's the Husband the Man and father. so what? Note the scene where Warren tells of HIS reaction about finding out his wife is a god dam whore. Warren says he wanted to hit her... he wnated to scream. big deal right?

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But the wife is SHOCKED stunned and surprised by his reaction.

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In the end SHE was the victim.??!?

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Excuse me while I vomit over another forced reconciliation story

EspressoBolusEspressoBolusalmost 16 years ago
Good story

Mild Mannered Hubby is a study in something, but I am not sure what. The therapist says he is not very assertive as a husband (and father)? Based on what, the fact that hus wife cheated and was forgiven almost before she finished confessing? Good point, he is a wus.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
great writing, but

I thought the writing was great. The description of the husband and children's feelings through the year of "hell" and mother's confession was excellent. But, I just can't feel the continuity of the story line. It just doesn't seem possible that the family could go through the whole year of the wife/mother's moods and attitude that brought the whole family to a crisis, then add her admission of infidelity, then just get over it as quickly as they did. The son's attitude is the only one that I really believe.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Quite Impressive Author

Very well written. Those who differ are those who would write a perfect variance which would be their mind driving it, but not realistically. We are all flawed at some point in our life in some way. The only difference is that it was so insignificant so as not to matter in the scheme of life or we got away with it.<P>

Sniping on this one was like Monday morning after the big game. Everyone intends to play by the rules but there is no story of true consequence that isn't a bit or a lot like life.<P>

You portrayed each perfectly for your purpose. She the unpredictable pusher of the best defense was a better more aggressive in your face offence. He was the avoider which you gave substance to quite graphically. You did it so subtly that I somewhat understood his escapist attitude.<P>

The confession came from the blue and startled him - and I. It made me wonder if she had done this the last difficult time they had.<P>

So it wasn't by the book many want to read from but it had great resonance of life in the human flaws that were believable. Each of us has seen that act or several scenes from it in real life but not the full play.<P>

Author - You are appreciated for your talent and pictures of life which no one wants but like whistling past the grave yard - are afraid of.<P>

With Very High Regard

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
She never considered saying no!

Warren on page 3, "I did everything I could not to...do something I could never take back." This seems to summarize most of the stories at LW. Husband says this, lives it, but wife never even considers it. Just a few drinks, some compliments, and that's it for her supposed 'loved ones.' Her pants come off. If he had punched her lights out after she cofessed, doubtful she'd even consider remaining with Warren. So why'd he stay with her??

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Infidelity gets diverted to be an Anger Problem

Sometimes I laugh quite hard, reading about how writers twist their own story plots, substituting one thing for another, and at the end, say: "yep, look, I solved the problem." <p>

in this case the problem which started the cascade of family disunity --- when wife was complimented a few times on how pretty she was, how smart she was, etc. ad nauseam and she says, Hmmm, he is so right!, I AM beautiful and SMART, I need to be with him, to see what we can do together! --- took place when she fucked around with a complete FUCKING STRANGER, after a few minutes of persistency from hi. <p>

and the WHOLE FUCKING family, at the "devasted" husband's demand, went to counseling and what did the fucker said?:

"Honey, you were the VICTIM of a sexual predator of the worst kind! You didn't know it, but he was! Look what he did to you, after a few fucks at his rented place: he bailed out on your and neither you nor your friend Joy were able to trace him! It is NOT your fault; you were suffering from sadness, anger, and loneliness, after your parents passed away at such a young age, never able to enjoy yours and your beloved husband Warren's children!" <p>

"Warren, it's a good thing you didn't blow your fuse: your wife was the HEINOUS VICTIM of a sexual predator! You are such a loving and gentle and considerate husband. You did the right thing, by insisting on counseling to help manage your anger, which you said could have result in your saying something really nasty to your suffering wife here... something you couldn't take back." <p>

"And, Susan, you too, you need an anger management class to control your temper, okay? Your loving husband and sensitive son -- and even your supportive daughter --- don't deserve these tantrums of yours!" <p>

I mean, really, WTF. <p>

Where or why did a story about a woman who fucks a complete stranger, after a few persistent compliments about her aging face, becomes an anger management issue/problem for the family? and the HUSBAND said SHE SAID she was JUST ABOUT to tell the fucker she's done with him AFTER those few fuck sessions in his apartment, SO IT WAS A BLESSING he just up and disappeared, solving her problem?!! <p>

And, get this: she let her guilt simmer for almost a whole year, until he and the two kids couldn't take it any more, and then he tries to force her to go to counseling and the first thing that comes out of her mouth is: "You? You scheduled an appointment for ME, to see a psychiatrist? Who do you think you are, you fucker!".... <p>

Of course, the story line was that shortly thereafter, she broke down and confessed to him, "It's gonna hurt, I'm so sorry. I have done something terrible, and it's gonna hurt all of us." <p>

Of course, we learned, again, the problem was that SHE was under the spell of a sexual predator! Any woman with a vagina could have been, so her being his latest victim, it's not really her fault; besides, her parents deaths pushed her over the edge a bit, not able to get comfort from her own family, so she just went on a few aimless fuck sessions with someone her friend introduced her to, someone who kept after her for a few minutes each time they met, someone who called her on her phone to keep saying how beautiful and intelligent she was... LOL

GenghisKhanGenghisKhanalmost 16 years ago
From John McEnroe to Risq

Although I like what John McEnroe said, "You cannot be fucking serious!", I think Risqu's exploration of the story line and his explanation below needs to be read and understood by all serious readers/critiquers: <p>

Like Risuq, the reconciliation is not a big problem for me. It's mostly the psycho babble that irritated me. If the story was about a wife/woman/mother who came totally clean and said, to both her husband and her children, <p>

"It's all my fault. I cannot give you a rational explanation for some thing irrational, inexplicable that I did. It's my decision alone, that caused all this hurt among all of us. I take all the blame; it's not you; it's not the other man I went to bed with a couple times. I can use excuses like "He complimented me, saying how beautiful I was, etc", but thta's not true. I, at some impulsive moments, decided irrationally to do some irrational things, a few of them, without THINKING about possible severe consequence and ramifications.... <p>

"All I could do now is beg you all to forgive me. This will be a life lesson that I will never repeat, knowing how deeply I hurt you, those I love beyond all else in the world, the only ones who truly love me, and who would sacrifice everything for me, for our family.... And, Warren, to try to heal the wounds I've inflicted on you, someone I truly love and want to spend the rest of my life with --- to demonstrate how serious I am at being punished for the heinous crime I committed against you, I will do ANY THING you ask: you can divorce me, banish me, hit me if you wish, or, yes, kill me... Yes, I know it's stupid and extreme, but I fully accept whatever decision you make, even if I may want none of them.... EXCEPT to be held and loved and trusted by you and our two children again... But, again, I am willing to face ANY and ALL those punishments, if you deem any or all is necessary..." <p>

Now, if an adult is willing to take such punishment for heinous crimes against their family, and ask, earnestly, deeply, for mercy.... To me, this shows a true, sincere, and understanding of her crime... and he/she is to be forgiven. SUCH AN ADMISSION shows that, as Risque noted below, she IS A GROWN UP person who knows "right" from "wrong" EVEN THOUGH she purposefully made a few DELIBERATELY wrong decisions. We could give her the benefit of the doubt and trust her with our children. <p>

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by Risque, an exceptional critique. <p>

This is why I have a problem with it. The term Predator is so over used now a days. The term is used for someone who preys on the unaware or uninformed. Usually "children". But in recent years it is used for (and by) anyone who has a relationship with someone else and then later they regret it. If someone sees someone they like and tries to start a relationship (sexual or otherwise), and the other person returns the interest, but later the other person regrets it after enjoying that person company, the other person who started off with initial interest is called a predator. Why? If they someone is unwilling and is force to have sex, it's calling rape. If they were forced through threats its called blackmail, and still possibly rape (depending on the circumstances). But if they willing do it, with no more than someones passing interest in them and they jump at the chance, and then later regret it after they've done it, why do stories persist in saying that they have been worked on by a Predator? So any guy who sees a girl he's interested sitting in a bar is a Predator if he goes up and tries to start some form of relationship with her? Is the act of showing interest in someone somehow negating their abilities to say "Sorry I can't I'm married" and ignore him from that point forward? I guess the "It's not my fault" logic really bugs me a times. <p>

I can see it with children. They are ill equipped and don't have the years of experience that comes with dealing with people. But why would a woman of 30+ years have an affair and their "marriage counselor" tell them it wasn't her fault? Like somehow she didn't know right from wrong? Would you really want someone who can't tell right from wrong, at least 3 times that she can admit too, raising your kids? I understood the guilt getting to her and her confessing it. That I saw as a good thing towards reconciling. But what killed it was the psycho babble about how it wasn't her fault and she was taken advantage of. If woman aren't capable of saying "No I will not let you put your hands on me. No I will not let you put your tongue in my mouth. I will not follow you to your apartment to let you have sex with me in your your bed. And I will certainly let you have sex with me in any way shape or form" then why do we let them out in public? I like to think it's because most of them are capable of accepting the role of being adults.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
THE MAN WITH NO NAME

Warren should be so proud. She can tell him NO in no uncertain terms and treat him and his kids like crap, but she can give it all up for THE MAN WITH NO NAME. LOL. This is even better than 'its just a fling'. SHE DID HIM 3 TIMES BUT SHE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HIM; HER GIRL FRIEND IS THE ONE WHO KNOWS HIM! LOL. These women just can't keep their legs closed. These stories all belong in a new category: anti-women's lib. By their own admission, gals in these stories can't take care of themselves. These gals lose all control. LOL. Married for 20 years, level headed, strong willed, kids, careers, wear pantssuits all the time, but they risk getting around that 1 guy and these gals claim its not their fault. Its open sesame. They just can't explain it. LOL Ever think this is all BS, and just like a guy that's a dog, they just want a little strange.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
THE MAN WITH NO NAME

Warren should be so proud. She can tell him NO in no uncertain terms and treat him and his kids like crap, but she can give it all up for THE MAN WITH NO NAME. LOL. This is even better than 'its just a fling'. SHE DID HIM 3 TIMES BUT SHE DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HIM; HER GIRL FRIEND IS THE ONE WHO KNOWS HIM! LOL. These women just can't keep their legs closed. These stories all belong in a new category: anti-women's lib. By their own admission, gals in these stories can't take care of themselves. These gals lose all control. LOL. Married for 20 years, level headed, strong willed, kids, careers, wear pantssuits all the time, but they risk getting around that 1 guy and these gals claim its not their fault. Its open sesame. They just can't explain it. LOL Ever think this is all BS, and just like a guy that's a dog, they just want a little strange.

peggytwittypeggytwittyalmost 16 years ago
Just a great fictional story that makes you think

You did a great job of writing a fictional story. You have hit on a realistic story line that plays out daily.<P> I am sorry so many people cannot look at the job of a therapist and see, it is not to just dwell on her cheating, but what makes up the personalities of the group. It is the most important part of therapy to lead the clients to understand whom, what and why. The adultery is only the act that precipitated the crisis. Now it is time to find out how to mend or put in perspective what happened, whom these devastated people are and why they do things. <P>

The understanding of ourselves and those we interact with is paramount. To only look for revenge is a way of trying to justify ones self-esteem. To forgive requires understanding not just saying, “I guess I am supposed to say OK I forgive you”. Forgiveness must come from inside the mind not just words we feel are required. We cannot fully forgive till we can understand or at least let go what happened. Forgiveness takes whatever time each person needs to accept the incident happened and nothing can change what happened.<P>

Those who cannot live with others mistakes are so ridged that they hold all things contrary to their own beliefs to be a personal affront to them. They have been wronged and someone must pay regardless of the truth. Reconciliation is not required for life to be good, it is each person’s feelings that bring about the next step in life. There is one fact we should all remember, we are humans and we will make mistakes. Some people will never know how they will react till it happens to them and others involved. <P>

You have done a fantastic job of trying to let people feel the characters pain and yet some will only see adultery and that means shoot everyone in sight.<P>

Thank you for the great entertainment.<P>

With great respect<P>

PT

KOLKOREKOLKOREalmost 16 years ago
irritating characters (very) inaccurate 'therapy'

Where was the anger management? All I saw was controllling manipulative and abusive one sided relations between the wife and the rest of the victims in her family. <P>

I am sorry, but I found this story mostly irritating by the gross inaccuracies of the 'therapy'. The clichés in those sessions almost gave me a skin rush… The amazingly submissive and repressed, yet presumably mostly "happy" and “stable” husband was another major irritant on my list. And he is the one who takes care of this whole family! Of all the characters he is the one who should have been sent on a most urgent basis to seek help. First task: learning how to stop being a victim to an abusive spouse.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
men don't act like this person in my area

what man would let his wife crap on his kids and him like this fool.fuck another man and be his slut and dumb hubby forgiving.bullshit.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Comments so deep

Luv the comments about forgiving and understanding the cheating wife. Yeah, blacken both her eyes when she's caught cheating and just see how quickly she'll forgive you. Oh yeh, but that's different. Right. My ass it is.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Good Story

A good story of the affects on the family. I would think more pain would be felt by all after her omission, and things would be less rosy. I do think it was a good feel for what could happen to the family - leaving out the sex.

Vulcan_in_OhioVulcan_in_Ohioover 15 years ago
One little bit of incorrect history . . .

This was a good story. I agree with quite a few of the comments that really seem to analyze the story's strengths and weaknesses. One comment raised the question about Rebecca's behavior problems during the first pregnancy. It would not have surprised me if she cheated then, and Jon was not Warren's biological son. I suppose a part two could include something like this if one were daring. My little pet peeve has to do with the allegation that in 1977 it was common for fathers to wait outside the delivery room rather than taking part in the delivery. Well, my son was born in 1978 and guess what, it was the norm at that time for the father to be present for the delivery! The father was the coach, "Breathe, breathe, push, push, pant quickly five times in and out, . . . " Whoever has been through this will know what I'm talking about. The "Lamaze Method" of childbirth became popular in the late '50's in the United States. By the late '70's virtually all were using this or something like it (see reference below). So I don't agree that fathers were kept out of the childbirth process in 1977 as the author alleges. I'm sure if Coaster2 does a bit of research on this, I will be vindicated. Maybe there were a few obscure places in the U.S. that did not teach this in childbirth classes but nearly all did. Aside from this nit I picked, I really enjoyed the story.

Reference: http://www.babycenter.com/0_lamaze-childbirth-method_640.bc

Tearsofsorrow2Tearsofsorrow2over 15 years ago
Psychobabble

I usually like Coaster's stories. I did not like this one. All indications lead to her having had at least two or more affairs. She does not confess until confronted with having to see a psychologist. Fear of being exposed. The husband acts on his fear of being alone. After all his wife only fucked around on him and then made his life miserable for a year and would have continued to do so. You authors should learn the difference between a psychologist and a social worker/marriage counselor. I am the former and I would be trying to help the husband accept life without his wife. Not trying to make him live a lie by staying with her. Also the Title has nothing to do with the story. the title should gave been "Guilt".

AnonymousAnonymousabout 15 years ago
I would never....

go to Tears of Sorrow for marriage counseling.A professional counselor will approach the sessions by asking what each client hoped to achieve through counseling.(With the idea that they wouldn't be there if preservation of the marriage wasn't the intent.)I know of no HMO that would demand a licensed Psychologist.Personally, if I had an issue that demanded more than counseling, I'd want a Psychiatrist.I've been a Social Worker for 34 years.Not real impressed with Psychologists.(Another "Gut" major in college).Hee-Hee!Pistolpackinpete.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 15 years ago
Acceptance

I liked the story for what it is. If a couple love their children and each other, then they will accept human error and learn to both accept and live with it. I am 65 years old and have been married twice. Both wives and I have made many mistakes in growing up with each other and accepting our immaturity throughout the years. I married at nineteen to a virgin who later became a slut wife. I lost respect for her and found another woman years later and left my first wife. My second wife (The other woman) did not enjoy sex much but never really ever confessed it. I sensed it and did a lot of things to bring her out of her shell, (threesomes, lovers for her etc,) and failed. I lost her respect in the process, yet she still loves me and lives with me 28 years later. There is still very little sex interest for her with me but we have everything else to live for. I am reduced to reading literotica stories now and masturbation as I would never cheat on her and never have... I liked your story! Maybe I will take a stab at writing my own one day with the ideas I get from you great authors. And by the way...its my experience that more couples reconcile after these sexual misadventures than not!

AnonymousAnonymousover 14 years ago
Ignore the predator issue: Big issue never touched

Harry is kind of right. The big issue is the wife's year long reign of terror upon her husband and kids but this NEVER comes up in therapy.

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in fact the wife never apologizes for this. How does the husband or the tennage kids never raise this Issue?

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Awful.

bigguy323bigguy323almost 14 years ago
The proper response to an admission of adultry is to.......

Go upstairs and pack your bags, OR get some trash bags and stuff the cheating sluts shit into them and throw her shit on the lawn. Then, give her about thirty minutes to get her shit before you turn on the sprinklers.

Fucking slut....

norcal62norcal62over 13 years ago
Excellent discussion and example of rebuilding a relationship.

You did an excellent job of setting up the crisis and then working toward a repair of a severely damaged marriage. I've often regretted that I decided on divorce after a long series of tries at marriage counseling. If I'd tried to work with the last counselor we saw, I'd probably have continued my first marriage. This story is so much more positive than the usual LW "kick 'em to the curb" story of hate and revenge. Too bad so many readers don't have the education or life experiences to recognize the relationships are works in continual progress.

bigguy323bigguy323over 13 years ago
Ho-Hum.

Not much to like or to hate. Pretty run-of-the-mill.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 13 years ago
very good

a believable story, keep writing!

AnonymousAnonymousabout 13 years ago
she confessed

so reconciliation was possible, should have been sooner but she came clean beore she got found out so another chance was appropriate - good story

lonewolf3307lonewolf3307almost 13 years ago
Are you sure you're not "thecelt" writing under another name.

Let's see, we have female infidelity, a forgiving cuckold, and, of course, reconciliation. All the ingredients of a story by "thecelt" which make this one just as depressing and sickening as anything he ever wrote. Also like "thecelt", your main male character, Warren, is written to be stupid beyond belief. Rebecca's depression was obviously caused, not by the affair itself, but, all psycho babble aside, by the abrupt way her lover ended it. The question Warren needed to ask himself was how long would the affair have gone on if her lover hadn't disappeared. A truthful answer to that question would have changed everything, I'm quite sure.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 13 years ago
I would like to visit the homes of the people who condemm this wife,

to see how much useless junk they have bought from persuasive salesmen.

Good people want to believe others are too. After being conned a few times they recognise when someone is trying not to give them time to think and just shut their minds to the sales pitch.

For this woman it came too late, and now like a huge unwanted sofa, the memory of how she behaved is in her mind every time she looks at her family.

So would all you insecure people out there please stop displaying your insecurities by your bad language and try to understand what it means to be human.

Finally, I suspect some of you are that species of sub-human that just want to increase the damage you are inflicting on everyone else.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 13 years ago
Nonsense. Why didn't hubbie ask her why it took the other guy dumping her to end it?

If she was so sorry for what she did why hadn't she ended it? She hops her married-with-children ass into bed multiple times with a guy whose name she didn't even know, after only coffee and a few compliments. Why would hubbie want her back if she hadn't been the one to have enough sense to have ended it. She admits the other guy dumped her. Hubbie takes back a wife who spread at least 3 times for a stranger and then got tossed by him like last weeks garbage. Could it be her "ANGER" was really that of a woman scorned? Remember, she didn't break it off, the "PREDATOR" did. What if the guy had been serious about her? What if it had been long term? What makes hubbie think she wouldn't have continued screwing him for that year, or run off with the guy? Would she have then been all smiles for the year and not grumpy to her family if she was getting boned by "PREDATOR" on the side for the year? So hubbie's seemingly hopeless losing dilemma: take back such piece of damaged goods that even the "PREDATOR" didn't want her, or believe some fairy tale about her great remorse over her falling into this black hole and an other wise responsible bank teller/wife/mother forgetting she was married until the "PREDATOR" got done using her.

shuttlepilotshuttlepilotover 12 years ago
the son

was the only one who reacted realistically. All that trash about reconcilliation is ridiculous when the boy finds out his mother is essentially, a stupid slut.

We all get depressed but don't all react by sleeping around, no matter how exciting it might seem.

Other commenters ask about what if it was a neighbor... exactly, she was depressed because it was OVER, not because it happened.

In real life, the boy would never accept what his mother did. Aren't there any black-white issues left? These stories seem to think so, at least the ones where the husband actually is a man.

AnonymousAnonymousover 12 years ago
Just typical psycho babble.

She was, in fact, a cheating slut. Did she quit willingly. No. She quit only because her lover got what he wanted and dumped her. If he hadn't she would still be spreading her legs for him. Get real author. She destroyed the family and we are suppose to have sympathy for her? Bull.

AnonymousAnonymousover 12 years ago
Consequences

I liked the story and your character's willingness to do the Christian thing and forgive. I think you need a second chapter to this story in order to complete the moral issues you raised. In particular, the predator got away with no consequences and went on to other conquests. Similar to Penn State, there is a moral obligation to civilization that your character let slide. Track him and whack him is my view.

AnonymousAnonymousover 12 years ago
wimp alert

no balls - no wonder the pig cheated on him. and he needs a dna test on those kids and to find the dude so he can beat him to death with a baseball bat.

cantbuymycantbuymyabout 12 years ago
major wimp alert

if a company owns the apartment a pi could find out who was using it. a major baseball bat attack in the middle of the night is in order - knees, elbows and hands, like permanent damage. middle of night, when he is not expecting it. and the little woman - hope she likes the local womans shelter. and the shrink - run a few ads about what a piece of shit he is.

jmiller2524jmiller2524about 12 years ago
Agree

I have to agree with {cant} on this one, the husband should have looked up the guy. It would be easy to do as her female friend knew him and more than likely set her up with him out of dislike for her or just plain old meaness. A husband should always destroy any man that would try to destroy his famliy, being a whimp or not.

cantbuymycantbuymyabout 11 years ago

just read it again and have to say BULLSHIT! husband was a wimp, did nothing to go after the man when he could have found him, could have got the name from the friend, and gotten some payback. and we only have wifes word that she was going to break it off when he left, because he left and wife was on her way over "to tell him." she is a cheating fucking whore.

RhomanovRhomanovabout 11 years ago
Emotionally Unsatisfying

While the storyline was good, at the end this kind of dribbled out like that last squeeze of toothpaste from the dispenser; no real emotional impact.

You could argue this story would make a decent PowerPoint presentation.

AnonymousAnonymousover 10 years ago

excellent story

tazz317tazz317over 10 years ago
LACK OF ANY CONTROL

brings turmoil to all in a relationship, TK U MLJ LV NV

AnonymousAnonymousover 10 years ago
What a waste of time

If your goal was to just shred the poor man's dignity, well you accomplished it. I Soo glad he was happy how they turned out. A wife that cheated on him and 2 kids that are now going to grow up with the example of, hey it's ok, there are no consequences for your actions. You just confess and everything will be forgiven. Oh that's right, she didn't confess. He had to drag it out of her. Weak woman, ball-less man, scarred kids.

One of your worst.

bearbait2002bearbait2002about 10 years ago
so sad

Why in hell would you turn this guy into a cockold? Up till now i had liked your writing style.Not so sure now. Maybe it's me but i see noway for anyone to get past the cheating. The harm she did would not float in the real world.No forgiveness, tossed out on her cheating ass

bazreidsbazreidsabout 10 years ago
excellent!

emotional predators can do a lot of damage, and if not dealt with properly, the after effects... can and do last for a Very Long time

KarenEKarenEover 9 years ago
@bearbait2002

Why do you call him a cuckold?

Yes, by the dictionary definition, i.e. a man whose wife had sex with another man, he is a cuckold. But by the standards that I believe are widely accepted here, he is NOT a cuck.

Here, a man is a cuck only when he knows about and accepts his wife's infidelity. Forgiving is NOT accepting.

Pappy7Pappy7over 9 years ago
With her attitude and overly aggressive behavior

the wife seems like someone who doesn't respect anyone unconditionally and all the time. Seems like you have to constantly "earn" her respect or you lose any you ever had. I don't find that type of personality particularly pleasing or easy to be around. If you naturally don't take any crap off of your wife just because you love her then you might can survive this type of wife, otherwise I think not. Someone once described this type of personality as being like the jungle, if you don't cut them back every once in a while they will grow all over you. Might be true.

Seems like I remember in the first chapter, pre Jon, that she was particularly hateful for a time and he did mention that Jon was blond and much bigger than him. Did she cheat then too? And get pregnant by her lover? Maybe she knew what she was saying when she said she seduced this unnamed person. Also, how could you have coitus three (?) times with someone and not know anything about them. Must have jumped naked really soon after meeting him. Not much self control there, it seems. Self control problems might be her cross to bear, not anger as a defense mechanism. I hate it when they bring in "counselors" and start all the psychobabble.

They are so far from experts it isn't funny. Especially the ones who take a certificate course at bible college.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 9 years ago
Cuckold

He is a cuckold. He may not have condoned it,but he certainly accepted it.

He decided to work at it and move on.

Good for him ,he is a cuckold but he forgave and now has a good family life.

KarenEKarenEalmost 9 years ago
@Anonymous 3/21/2015

He is NOT a cuckold. He WAS an UNKNOWING cuckold, when his wife ultimately confessed he took charge and insisted they work on their problems.

He eventually forgave her, but never ACCEPTED her infidelity.

I'm sorry, that is NOT a cuckold!

Pappy7Pappy7almost 9 years ago
Second read, like the writing style of this author

but my assessment of the wife didn't change one bit. I think that she was a cheat from the start, maybe not physically, but a least commitment wise. And infidelity is never a "mistake". Not carrying the one in an addition problem is a mistake, fucking around on your spouse is a planned event. She did this with malice and forethought. I would bet that in retrospect her attitude came before the cheating. And a lot of people have parents that die and it's always too soon but most of them don't go and jump on a strange dick. I really don't think that she was worth keeping. If he had to suppress his true feelings around her, she was a bitch from the start and never had any respect for him. And if she was the "dominant" parent then chances are the poor daughter will be a slut, if she's not already. Great writing, good characterizations. It's easy to get into this as if we knew the family. More than like will read this again in the future.

tazz317tazz317almost 9 years ago
DONT KEEP HAVING DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR

Stop-Look-Listen and SEE. TK U MLJ LV NV

xtchrxtchralmost 9 years ago
Don't Buy It!

I just don't buy the suave, good-looking psreditor that can get any woman into bed with some smooth lines. I have a hard time believing woman are that stupid. She wants to cheat and try something different. And then to 'get talked' into it 3 times. I just don't buy it. And to top it off, she NEVER broke it off, the. Other cheater did by leaving town. And then punishing her family for a full year for her cheating. She is not a candidate for reconciliation! This guy has to grow up, take his kids and move on.

sdc97230sdc97230almost 9 years ago
These guys do exist

No, they can't smooth talk EVERY woman they want into bed, and no, ALL women are not that weak or stupid, but they have this strange hunter instinct that somehow enables them to pick up on which ones are, or are going through some personal crisis that makes them become gullible. I think they are somehow related to those guys who get drunk or use drugs and beat up on their women, yet always seem to be able to find another if the one they have wises up and leaves.

AnonymousAnonymousover 8 years ago

What makes him a cuck, is that he did not dump the cum slut. A lot of high school couples who wind up getting married, do not last. After all "curiosity killed the cat".

Tw0Cr0wsTw0Cr0wsover 8 years ago
betrayal leads to suspicion which leads to......

My first thought was "Did she also cheat early in their marriage?" when she was also miserable to be around.

My next thought was that there could be another reason for her son to be so angry about it; his mother, whom he looked up to, was an unfaithful wife - so what chance would he have of finding a woman who would be faithful in marriage?

TornadoTysTornadoTysover 7 years ago
Bit Tame

I agree with Tw0Cr0ws comments on that perhaps the son now believes that all women are cheaters !

This may haunt him in relationships in the future with a trust and commitment issues !

I do believe the wofe got of so lightly, at least she could have arranged a FFM for het husband.

Of course he forgsve her and he did not wsnt to punish her, though were was the remorse, how did she rebuild her husbands trust if she was bad tempered again !

DrSemblanceDrSemblanceover 7 years ago

I always laugh a little when some idiot thinks a man is a cuck and a pussy unless he kicks a cheating cunt out.

I agree that there are cucks and pussy wimps. Those would be the ones that either have no balls and just accept what is going on, or worse, get off on it.

But, I do not think that every time there is reconciliation that he is a pussy.

I have no problem with reconciliation under the "right conditions"

That being said, "right conditions" is way too subjective to try to define. It is definitely situation specific.

In this particular situation, I think it was very proper.

AnonymousAnonymousover 7 years ago
very good job...

...at creating a unique rationalization for cheating. My parents died and I couldn't talk to my husband because he is wired different emotionally. So her adultery is husband's fault

But they all lived happily ever after.

OK with me if they want to fool themselves. Good for husband that Ted is still around to adjust his blinders.

AnonymousAnonymousover 7 years ago
what about the scumbag

Interesting . But I agree it would not have ended so Rosie in real life . Then there is the issue of the low piece of scum that she had the affair with . He gets what he wants and moved on to cause damage again and again . Leaves a bad tasst ! Then there is the whore of a friend that helped set her up . No punishment there ! I don't think so . Any man who loves his wife and is betrayed like this needs retribution against the ones that set his wife up . Both her so called friend and the waste of oxygen.

AnonymousAnonymousover 7 years ago
1*

cuck shit.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 7 years ago
believability

She meets guy at coffee with neighbors and has wonderful conversation with him. Usually these get togethers are around communal table in kitchen, living room patio yet he comes on to her in front of neighbors???? During her interesting talks she never inquires what he does for living, for whom he works???

He supposedly has job and apartment is company's but somehow he has all this free time to be with her and friends four days out of five.

Husband doesn't demand to know name, be shown apartment????

Enjoy your writing but appearance of ''ghost''seducer just seems a stretch

AnonymousAnonymousabout 7 years ago
SIGH!

Rebecca: Oh baby, I'm so sorry I fucked a total stranger 3 times in one week and feel guilty.

Warren: Well shucks sugar plum, since you confessed only a year after cheating on me and breaking your marriage vows I guess it's a No harm no foul. Umm what's fo dinner?

Total cuckold, creampie eating bullshit.

Hmmm, come to think about it, I wonder if old Warren got to eat those creampies that week?

silentsoundsilentsoundalmost 7 years ago
Lame

Wimp.

He should have at least started spanking her and found the nameless idiot she was a whore for and crushed his balls.

ScorpioJJScorpioJJalmost 7 years ago
Her "Friend" needed some consequences

She gave the predator her phone number? What kind of friend does that? Was she trying to break up their marriage? Get info on the guy then cut her off completely. Hire a PI to find everything on this guy, they know what company he worked for. Wait at least a year then pay him a late night visit. Make the predator into the prey.

sbrooks103xsbrooks103xover 6 years ago
Thoughts

“I had seduced him.” - She CAN’T be that stupid! He obviously seduced her!

“I had to tell someone.” – So accept the appointment with the psychiatrist and tell HIM!

I don’t think I would have made her tell the kids, just to sit there while HE told them so that she could confirm that he wasn’t lying.

“She cheated on you and she hurt us," – It’s not just that, but she took out her guilt on THEM, refused to admit that SHE had a problem and get some help for it.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
I don't mind reconciliation

But the guy in this story really felt like a wimp. We knew nothing of her seducer, got no revenge, the part where they get back together is kind of skimmed over. Kind of makes me mad the seducer gets away easily and goes on to his next target. Her wife's friend even helped her get set up and did nothing to her either? Messed up. That's why the story felt wimped out to me.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
Encouragement and support?!!

Fuck that! Cheats, treats them all like shit for a year, then gets "encouragement and support",,, please.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
This story is lacking!

I agree with ScorpioJJ. You should have include a follow up with Warren confronting his wife's friend who set her up. She deserve some retribution for being an asshole! Warren should also find out who the predator was so he can gets what he deserves. My suggestion is to shock his penis with a cattle prod several times so he can't ever get it up. The courts won't be to hard on Warren since there won't be any "physical damage".

boatbummboatbummover 6 years ago
And About The Predator?

Like many others, I have some serious heartburn that there are no consequences for the predator, NOR for the "friend" who gave him Rebecca's phone number. Ten years is WAY too long to let such deeds go unpunished. As others have noted, Warren is too forgiving. He needed to grow a pair and hunt down the dickhead and ruin his life.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
some woman

it took one fucking year, after giving shit to the family, she finally decides, for her own mental well-being, that she has to come out. That is one selfish bitch. A mother owes loyalty to children too. It is not just the husband to whom she is accountable, so her actions are unforgivable as her actions have a consequence for the whole family. What if her affair had come out in the open before she confessed to the family; what about the humiliation of children?

AnonymousAnonymousabout 6 years ago
good story

Kind of typical. Not really gripping. Sorry

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 6 years ago
2* Reallly?

She cheats, then gets hugs. Wimpy cuck husband.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 5 years ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What a useless, miserable, pathetic cuck story written by a useless, miserable, pathetic cuck author. Needless to say, 1*

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 5 years ago
Neither useless nor pathetic

Definitely not. If you did not like the story, you can express it in a more constructive and polite way.

Humans make mistakes. Trashing 17 years of marriage should no be done hastily in anger.

Not my favorite story, but good all the same.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 5 years ago
After reading ALL the comments, Coaster really hit a sore spot.

Watching a long term marriage going down the drain and not doing anything to stop the bleeding is a cowards way. If there is nothing to salvage, then okay, let her go. But a real man, husband and father has got try. In this case he forgave her but did not "forget". Of course he will remember the betrayal and if he can't get past it the marriage is doomed and their children will forever have deep scars. Apparently this story brings out the best and worst in people (in real life).

AnonymousAnonymousabout 4 years ago
Agree on retribution for preditor

The Cunt deliberately went after a married woman. With the aid of a slut so called friend . Both the slut friend and the Preditor deserve some real pain .

AnonymousAnonymousover 3 years ago
Typical marriage counseling psychobabble

Story reeks of typical marriage counseling psychobabble -spread the blame around and make both parties at fault. At no time was the wife held responsible for her actions or bad decisions. She's a victim of the predator and her husband who couldn't read her mind and anticipate her issues. Total bullshit and a one sided relationship. What exactly was the wife providing to the relationship other than being a selfish entitled cunt. Just because they'd been together for 17 years does not mean the relationship can or should be saved. Husband would be better off with a partner that was more compatible and able to give back to the relationship instead of just taking.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 3 years ago

I don’t understand. Why didn’t he talk to Joyce about the identity of the guy who screwed his wife. Any husband with balls would have done that! I would have a arranged for a little mugging with a knife to his cock. This wouldn’t kill him but he would remember it every time he tried to fuck anyone in the future! As for Joyce, I would ruin her reputation to all of her friends.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 2 years ago

I truly believe that the commenters who say the people that committed adultery "made a mistake" and toss around phrases like "we are only human" deserve to be blindsided like the innocent spouse was in this story.

Try reading the story again.

The wife had extra marital sex with another person she was NOT married to on THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS.

This was not a "mistake". These were CHOICES made with conscious effort.

Hey Literotica authors, I have a story challenge.

Write a story about a marriage counselor who was cheated on, and how they handled it !!!

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

Actually, she treated her family like shit for a year out of sexual frustration when NoName turned her totally on to the max and then just left. She only confessed out of the hope that hubby would track him down.

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

A WHORE GETS REWARDED.

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

"The next thing I knew, he was holding my hand as we walked and then ... and then ... he was kissing me. Oh god, Warren, I don't what came over me. I was kissing him back. I didn't want to, but I was. I realized what I was doing and I stopped and he looked hurt. I don't know why, but I felt sorry for him, like I had been leading him on."

.

Yep. There you have it at last. The full and compleat description of the Martian Slut Ray. The Greeks and the Romans had Cupid and his arrow. We got Eh Too and its slut ray.

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

Once again the woman is treated as though she’s not responsible for her choices.

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

If this is how women are, that they don’t have agency or accountability, that they can’t control themselves, then Islam is correct! Women like the wife in this story shouldn’t be allowed in public without her husband. She shouldn’t be allowed to drive, vote, earn money, own property, or exercise any degree of power or authority at all! Her daughter, as shown by the quick acceptance of bad behavior, is well on her way to becoming the same.

AnotherChapterAnotherChapter7 months ago

While I like your writing generally, this story was a disappointment. There seemed to be a near total abrogation of responsibility on the part of Rebecca. Finding herself walking along holding hands with a man she barely knew was consciously dipping her toe into the pond of infidelity. Small step to then inexplicably falling into bed! There were clearly serious issues in her commitment to her marriage to allow the adultery to begin in her mind before it became physical. Allegedly the mystery man was a predator, but she was game. (Pun intended) three liaisons in a week and then it ended only because he disappeared, not because of her later remorse. Too many excuses.

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