All Comments on 'Two's a Crowd Ch. 03'

by angiquesophie

Sort by:
  • 67 Comments
AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
Oh darn, another wimp ex-husband...

Seriously author - the portrayal of this sick puppy [Bruce] is maddening, please shoot him and put him out of his misery. The character flaws and emotional baggage this wimp-ass bastard carries is overwhelming and makes this story so unrealistic. We get it - your dislike for the male species is so evident and glaring [perhaps some of the other commentators were correct- you have been rejected at some point in your existence]. We also realize the picture you have painted of the "glorious slut ex-wife" who should soon tell us why it is all the wimp husband fault. Why drag this man-hating soap opera out into other chapters when it is so predictable?

Vulcan_in_OhioVulcan_in_Ohioover 15 years ago
Ch. 03 was too short.

Chapter 2 was much better than chapter 1, in my opinion, but chapter 3 has some weaknesses. In fact, I think it should have been longer because the "soap opera" really has not shown plot development sufficient to call this a "chapter." I realize the author is trying to keep us in suspense but nothing has happened this time except for Bruce meeting Erica, a lesbian who can nearly always beat him at tennis, and then "coincidentally" running into Myriam (AKA Estelle) in the hotel lounge in Dallas, seeing her take a payment and leave with a businessman, following which she breaks down and puts on a terrific act for her ex (using up all the tissues). I can't believe Bruce has not yet figured out what is going on. We need to assume, at this point, that Myriam is a high-class, expensive call girl (maybe more mature than the one who did former NY Governor Elliot Spitzer). But we know that whores make very faithful housewives when they give up their profession and settle down and get married! This is especially true when such finds herself with a really good catch, a loving, faithful husband who is a good provider. Why would she jeopardize her marriage? Bruce was bound to find out what she was doing -- pretty dumb to believe he never would. And despite condoms or other "safe sex" methods, she was risking Bruce's health by exposing him to any and all diseases her lovers might have been carrying. If a woman can pretend (by being a good actress) that she is caring and enjoying closeness with a "john" then how does hubby know if she is acting or not with him? She lies by omission and even lies directly, why should he believe anything she says? Why does he take the risk of having his heart wounded all over again? I know, he thinks he still loves Myriam. But Bruce is in love with a fantasy, not the reality of what his ex-wife actually was. He can't get over his fantasy wife and clings to it despite what, six months of therapy and two years' time? The story is looking as if it will end badly. The only question is how many more chapters before it does so . . .

dangerouslydeaddangerouslydeadover 15 years ago
Go On

you arer writing a loving wife story so you will have many critics but it is going well... keep it up.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
UH!!!!

You are losing your fans....BIG TIME!!!!!

No man acts like Bruce....there was a favourable ending written in the "comments" in the last chapter that made more sense.

This chapter sparks endless myopic drivel.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
Interesting as usual

It is interesting to read the widely differing comments of your loyal fan base, they love you and they hate you, probably for all the same reasons. You seem to be able to describe the many expressions of the interaction between male and female and make it interesting and insightful, instead of clinical.

As for me, count me among the fans. I like your writing, probably because your stories are full of characters who care and that may often be their Achilles heel. You could end this saga here, but I am kind of interested in what went seriously wrong in Myriam's pretty head.

JADED_ONE1969JADED_ONE1969over 15 years ago
Okay, so she was an escort all this time!

I'm glad we cleared that up. Well she did say it was business. But they say love is blind. well we shall see. As always very good writing.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
a bit short indeed

but it can go on in different ways. What was the note he left behind ? A simple goodbye, wishing her well, or an invitation for another meeting, leaving the door open. Although, from what she said, he can now figure out that the betrayal went on from before they married, he may want to know the extent of her cheating after all, if only out of curiousity. Or could it be that her tears were just an act now that she heard he will soon be on the board, which would make him an interesting person. Or is it her socalled real love that comes to surface again. Whatever. *** As I said before, Angiquesophie writes extremely well, which is recognized in many comments, event by those who don't like the content of her stories. G.Belgium

digdaddyrichdigdaddyrichover 15 years ago
A shame we can only speculate what she is

It would have been nice to close this void in the information the author has given us. There are still quite a few issues yet to be disclosed. I hate to speculate about a story for I usually am wrong with the authors true intent.I guess we will have to make do and fabricate our own theroy as to what she is and how she conducted her life.Thanks.....Rich

bruce22bruce22over 15 years ago
Why do we like to be tortured??

Truly reading the author's work is an exercise in suffering.

We have 60% complaining about it, but everyone agreeing that she writes quite well and powerfully. I find almost amusing the people who repeatedly complain that her men are all wimps and the stories are not worth reading....

In this particular story whe have a repetition of the theme that he delivers the questions and then refuses to listen to the answers. Seems similar to the readers, like me, reading the stories and then finding themselves unhappy. Someday angiquesofie will give us a story which will leave us with a warm, happy glow and we will miss the pain...

These stories are usually just the opposite of "Fool me once..."

Tearsofsorrow2Tearsofsorrow2over 15 years ago
Reading

I wonder if some of you read the same chapter I did. This was not a "man hating" foray into the world of lesbianism. Bruce is a weak man where his ex-wife is concerned. We know that so get over it. He has a character flaw. All of us do, it's called human nature. Erica broke down his armor and now he has a chance to heal. When he sees Myriam again in Dallas he finally witnesses what we the reads knew all along. She is a prostitute. Nothing wrong with being one, provided you are not married. Bruce is also secondary to the plot at the end of this chapter. You have been clammering for Myriam's motivation in this story and you finally get to see it and you are not happy. Maybe you do not know what you are reading. So here it is. Myriam's life as a hooker required a stable peaceful home life which Bruce provided. A Yin to her Yang. He took that away from her. And her whole world came crashing down. That is one of the reason for the waterworks display. She sees that he has moved beyond her and she sees the barren ruin that is her life. The author is correct there are very few people who are truly evil, and Myriam is not one of them. The third and final part displayed at the end of this chapter is the build to next part of the story. It is two fold. One is that no woman wants to be forgotten. And Myriam is in fear that that is exactly what is happening. The second is that Bruce is finally growing a backbone. He doesn't want to know why? Why, which is so integral to the plot of these stories does not interest him anymore. Nor should it. Infidelity is the problem of the cheater, not the cheated. the note left on her chest is a plot device to carry us to next chapter of the story. Myriam will have to go to Bruce in New York and confront him with her history. A history he no longer wishes to know. The ball is now in his court. He is controlling the match. I was going to give angiquesophie a 75 but the comments made me think more about what she wrote. I just think some of you didn't read what I did.

+

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
I read this just to see where she was going.

the ex wife is in full manipulation mode. She went did her whoring and now is in bed with her ex husband attempting to get him back. No cover like a marriage built on lies, now she wants a cover based on truth. He on the other hand has been stupid and nursing for years love of his supposed wife. Not the wife he had but the wife he thought he had. Now he can see what she is: a weak minded, weak willed, totally amoral individual who still has not concept of what she did to the man who loved her. Trash is trash even in good clothes at expensive hotels, she is the worst kind of trash the kind that destroys lives with absolutely no sense of responsibility. A fitting end to your voyage in depravity.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
Improved

Improved over the first two and definitely the second part.

BriteaseBriteaseover 15 years ago
Near perfect

If I could give 200, then I'd do so.

I find this one of the most gripping stories I've ever read on this site, and really well written. The third chapter came as a surprise, as I thought she'd left it hanging after the second. I'd make further comment, but tears of sorrow has just about summed up my reading of the story. I just find it a bit difficult to believe that the hubby hasn't got sufficient inqusitiveness to really need to know more. Then again, that is the heart of the story, and without that it wouldn't have anywhere to go. Thanks __ can't wait for the next episode.

PS I always wonder if the photo on her biography is angiquesophie? I like to think it is, in which case I'd love to meet her. Belgium isn't that far from France is it?

Harryin VAHarryin VAover 15 years ago
TEARSOF SORROW -- you are a chump

Tearsof sorrow...

<br></br>

its not that we are all all wondering about her Motivation.... it is that we all know WH she is back and talking to Bruce. Too bad you cant figure it out.

<br></br>

as for the ball being in HIS court... dude you are so fucking off the mark its ludicrous. In chapter2 you posted that YOU are a psychologist. REALLY? after reading your feedback here NO one believes that.

<br></br>

Everyone here knows that Bruce asking Myriam some tough question TWO years later... and doing so after all those years of fake marriage... is Meaningless crap. Now that he is on the board NOW she wants him back.<b> NO one believes she has any feelings or emotional connection to him. Its part of her latest Plot or scheme.</b>

<br></br>

except for you

<br></br>

sure its good that Bruce never let her speak her web of lies rationalizations and bullshit. But here is the point.

<br></br>

when she calls him up on the phone sobbing <i>"I want to die, Bruce. I don't want to live anymore." </i>

<br></br>

Bruce should of said <b> "so just fucking die Bitch!!!"

</b>

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
Swell.

You have managed to write the same story three times, with only minor changes.

Harryin VAHarryin VAover 15 years ago
very cliche: calling JPB on super wimp phone

It speaks volumes that the king of the wimps Btitease thinks this is a good story. That sort of like Sarah Palin endorsing the latest theory by Stephen Hawking.

<br></br>

I said in chap 1 that Bruce's failue to ask ANY questions regarding her serious long-term relationship with that football player in college or to be the least bit curious about why his supposedly prudish sexually restrained wife is being gossip about as a promiscuous woman... will prove to be crucial.

<br></br>

<b>But of course it is BRUCE that breaks down when meeting Myriam at the bar.</b> HE is the one that starts to cry. HE is the one that has an emotional Outburst asking WHY Myriam???

<br></br>

I am surprised Bruce's mascara wasnt running and his panties werent damp.

<br></br>

But when Bruce said this again I burst out laughing... I mean it's so fucking absurd.

<br></br>

<i>Her voice was like her smile. Home, it said. Welcome home.</i>

<br></br>

WHY -- not make that HOW --could any straight man think after running into is lying cheating prostitute escort wife two years after the divorce ... and nine years after this massive deceit was discovered... that her smile looked like Home??

<br></br>

and this

<br></br>

<i> Here I sat with the woman I had shared my soul with for over ten years </i>

<br></br>

<b>I mean come on folks how can you read shit like that and not just vomit? Does Bruce really think that Myriam was sharing her SOUL with him after all he's been through? I mean that is so far from reality given this story so far that I think Bruce should be committed for being mentally ill. </b>

<br></br>

We open this wretched chapter with Bruce in agony two years after the divorce. He still doesn't date. He's emotionally barren he can sleep well he's out of shape. I mean it sounds like a classic garden variety LW stories. What's the big deal?

<br></br>

His reactions continue to be that of a GAY men pretending to be straight. Once again we have this author developing a male character as one that is exceptionally weak and exceptionally shallow.

<br></br>

He makes a friend with a lesbian at the tennis club/ gym -- OF COURSE! I mean when I read that I burst out laughing... didnt you?. And of course he's getting his ass kicked every week by Erica. Suuuuuurrrrrreeeee ...happens all the time. And when Erica probes too hard into his past what does Bruce do? Runs away and pouts for two weeks. <b> That is the behavior of the straight Guy?</b>

<br></br>

so Erica calls him on the phone inquiring about missing two weeks of tennis... and in doing she reminds him that she is winning and kicking his ass. Well that's fine but somehow Bruce thinks THAT mocking phone call by Erica is an act of caring!! <b> That is the behavior of the straight Guy???.</b>

<br></br>

When he finally meets his escort wife/ whore in Dallas he feels ashamed. He wants to run away he feels guilty.

<br></br>

<i>I felt ashamed.....

<br></br>

I even now felt the shame for trusting her with my life while she must have been laughing behind my back -- making fun with others about me. It makes you feel so small, so diminished.</i>

<br></br>

<b>That is the reaction of the straight guy?</b> No way. Not even close. It IS the reaction of a woman who has raped or abused and has serious issues with straight MEN.

<br></br>

Yet the clear male bashing and weakness of Bruce continues as another attempt to show how superior women are over all men.

<br></br>

In the end we all know where this is headed.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
So let me see....

He agonizes over Myriam, he can't look at he without crying, he begs her to tell him what went wrong....and less than 12 hours later he's saying he's healed? He's over her....when the fuck did that happen?

thebulletthebulletover 15 years ago
Good story, regardless of misogynistic rants

<p>This was a bit short, but it spoke volumes. Irritating little misogynists like Harry are incapable of deriving anything but a few basic facts out of a story like this. </p>

<p>In his little world people don't have real feelings. There is no ambiguity. Just black and white, right and wrong, love and hate --- lots of hate.</p>

<p>Sorry for the rant, but Harry is just a major league asshole and occasionally someone should say it.</P.

<p>Good story, this. One of the better writers on this website, angiquesophie must endure the slings and arrows of outrageous idiots in order to post her deeply textured stories. </P>

<p>She can at least be somewhat gratified that everyone on this site is not a knee-jerk reactionary who never had a real relationship with a woman. There are plenty of thoughtful readers who appreciate what comes as close to actual literature as there is on the site. </p>

fregenfregenover 15 years ago
Do finish it

Maybe he didn't want the whole story but I sure did! Obviously from chapter 2 we know she had been doing her extramarital activities for some time. (Nice friends)<P>

But why the staid clothes and attitude for him vice the free and easy way she had with her 'johns'? How long? From the very beginning? Lots of questions.<P>

I liked this chapter a lot. It seems that from signing the divorce papers on she has decided to drop the facade and not hide her true self. She did not set up this accidental meet in Dallas and has made no attempt to contact him in years. As a matter of fact she was probably mortified her ex husband observed her selling herself. The early morning phone call full of remorse is a result of being forced to look at herself from his eyes. And she didn't like what she saw.<P>

Too bad he didn't let her purge herself. If he ever loved her it would have been the decent thing to do. She still has to be carrying a huge amount of guilt. Even if he didn't intend to take her back confession is good for the soul. It would have helped her. Of course, if he is trying to still hurt her he did exactly the right thing.<P>

I do not understand the wimp label. He found out she was cheating and he promptly divorces her. Is he a wimp because he loved her and is suffering because of it? That makes no sense.<P>

Thanks for sharing.

kelchakelchaover 15 years ago
Inner Demons

Fantastic story and well worth the top score. I am so happy that the story is to continue and that we may get the insight into wife's behavior. ***** If stories were written to please the people who make the comments, this would be a pretty boring site. Each of us has a unique set of past experiences and each of us learns from those experiences differently. It seems from the wife's tearful comment that she was aware of her harmful behaviour and continued the bad behaviour. This is what makes her a 'bad' woman. She has inner demons that appear to have destroyed her life and she is aware that her life has been destroyed. ***** We have the story from the husbands point of view and so we identify with him. Relating to his pain makes us dislike the wife intensely and to wish her ill. ***** I know and have used the services of a lot of hookers in the past two years. When my wife left me for another man I went a little crazy and bought sex from between 30 to 40 women - more than once usually. Still do once in a while. This is a soul destroying behaviour for the woman and also for me. In the two years I have been alone, I have still not entirely healed - obviously. ***** The life of a hooker is EMPTY, dead and worthless. And they know it or come to understand that truth. I don't blame the wife for entering marriage with the horrible baggage she appeared to carry with her. Doesn't a drowning woman have a right to reach for a lifeline? Hints from her comments about morality indicate to me that she tried to heal and change. She failed. I can also sympathize with her refusal to explain. How do you tell something to the other person in the life boat which will cause throwing to the sharks. ***** Is there a future for them. Yes, if he wants it and if he is willing to go through a lot of pain to obtain her again. It is up to him as to what he does. ***** Personally, I hope they do get together again. Personal demons are strong and hard to beat. I think of the fact that even in societies where the cost of cheating was death, cheating still took place. ***** Is he a wimp if he bonds with her again? What a stupid question. Live your life and make your choices. At the moment of death there is just you and what is in your heart and your mind. Any people whose values or expectations you felt you had to live up to or to live down to won't be there with you. If he goes down the road of healing with his ex he can expect great pain - but perhaps also great joy.

shangoshangoover 15 years ago
I really don't understand the point

No one can love someone they don't respect. And no woman respects a crying man. And this guy is a real loser. So what are you writing about? As a reader, I can't read about unsympathetic characters. I wouldn't run either of these folks over in my car.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
Terrific story!

Enjoying the story. Wish the chapters were a bit longer. Very realistic.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
Am I being Shallow?

Only took 3 chapters to finally reveal her side ---this lady needs a phsyco bad -OMG to finally tell us she's a prostitute - she sure didn't do it for the $$$$

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
tto bad Bruce and her both are dysfunctional.

You write about dysfunctional people. You write about ball less men and whore women...what nother kind are their in your world? I find real people in mine...so sad...so sad...

Tearsofsorrow2Tearsofsorrow2over 15 years ago
Time to answer my critic

Harry was much as I get enjoyment out of reading your opinions. And I even sometimes agree with you. There is no need to be insulting, to me or the author. Read Kelcha's comments, his understanding of Myriam is spot on. You see I agree with the vast majority of male readers that she does not write a male character well. I have posted that before in my comments. She is getting better. She also has to deal with plot devices. If Myriam does not tell her half of the story then the story ends. Although all stories should have and ending some can end to soon. Bruce loves his slut wife. This is a fact that you do not seem to grasp. I may not like her, I may even hate a person like her. But I am not Bruce. You don't like the author because you see her as having an agenda. Britease likes her picture. I like her writing ability. She can spin a tale. If she does indeed have a sinister motive to show all women as superior, where is it? I and most readers do not have any sympathy for Myriam. If I was in Bruce's shoes I would have not approached her when I saw her. I would not have left either. I would have made sure see saw me. I would have made sure she knew I had no interest in her. Remember she wants to be noticed and remembered. If I was Bruce she would be the most forgettable person in any room. This is the character our sinister author has created. Wait for the next chapter Harry, at least you will have something to complain about. BTW I live in Canada and if you would like I could come down and show you my Degrees and my License. I would have to charge for the visit.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
Characters Infuriating

I hate these stories where the guy can't listen to an explanation----for the story's sake. It is not good story-telling when it takes---it will be 4 chapters now---so long to get at the bottom of things. And Bruce needs to be slapped in the head. He can't talk things out. He can't listen. He can't find a better woman or get Myriam back---a reformed Myriam----this isn't life here----this is a story. We need action, drama, interesting tidbits of provocation. We need closure. Let's get the story rolling. Bruce should have demanded explanations from the beginning or investigated the situation----maybe even did a little devious revenge----we don't need him as a psycho----there are enough in the real world---what we need is an interesting story.

I give you 50 because I can picture Myriam in a mint-green revealing dress and she looks good to the imagination but she is eye-candy that hasn't been tasted by the reader yet----and though there may be remorse now & in the future----what was her motivation?

stevieraygovanstevieraygovanover 15 years ago
This is just an awesome fucking story.

It's just killing me. First the author pisses me off like no other. Now the author is killing me by bringing back my own Angelina (grieving over her death rather than her betrayal but it was still the same sort of life shattering grief) and then my own Stacey, with the introduction of the Erica character.<p>

And now Myr is back from the dead. This is just fucking killing me. This story is literally a raw nerve being chewed on. I'd give this story a 200 score if I could, even as I also want to shoot the author for writing it. What a wicked bitch...

IrrumatioIrrumatioover 15 years ago
You have to be a masochist to post LW stories

Even with prose as sensual as this, there are morons who can only see that it offends their sensibilities, who can't stand the idea of stretching to absorb what is offered. So, great writing gets demeaned and (literally) degraded because -- ohmygawd! -- it's about a slut who must be punished by giving the author a low score for describing her with such intensity. This would be a 5.00 but for the Harrys who live in terror of adventurous women and ignore great writing. <br><br>

Hopefully the author is amused by their fear.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
brilliant

Brilliant, sad and as bullet says there are many shades of grey

exjockexjockover 15 years ago
Most amazing

Well, I cannot tell a lie, I hate Miriam for witholding the truth so long and for bringing it up when she did, but nonetheless, this is a wonderfully well written story. It forces me to do what I hate...Think! Keep it up, looking forward to the next episode. don't let what anyone here says influence your writing - you are GREAT!

Harryin VAHarryin VAover 15 years ago
ok Tearsof sorrow I apologize

TEARS... Ok I apologize. I should not of gotten so confrontational but your analysis coming from a psychologist REALLY stunned me.

<br></br>

You said

<br></br>

<u> Bruce loves his slut wife. This is a fact that you do not seem to grasp. I may not like her, I may even hate a person like her....</u>

<br></br>

Lets say that is correct... and I think on this point you are correct. THAT my friend is the problem. <b> After all Bruce has been through WHY does he STILL love her?</b>... after 9 years of whoring/ escorting... of laughing behind his back (according to Bruce!!)... and 2 years after a divorce that had Bruce back on his feet... WHY does he STILL love her?

<br></br>

I am NOT asking for this author to write what I want.

<br></br>

<b>I am asking for explanation to justify Bruce's queer / Gay like reactions. </b>I dont think I am being unresonable here.

<br></br>

It seem to be that you have NOT read many of angiquesophie's other stories. ALL of this author's stories feature this same type of wife/ whore and the EXACT same type of man/ husband.

<br></br>

After all he has been through for Bruce to say HE feels ashamed... that he feels gulity is without a doubt the most bizzare twisted Non masculine thing here I have ever read here in a serious LW story.

Tearsofsorrow2Tearsofsorrow2over 15 years ago
Harry let me tell you a story

This story is true. Brutally true. I was married at the age of 23 and divorced at the age of 27. My wife fucked around on me once. I knew the day she did it and she only did it once. I did not confront her I waited. I did not touch her for a month. Finally she asked me to leave and I kicked her out. In my dealings with anyone I ask for only one thing, honesty. That is it. I have a son by that marriage he is now 18. I loved my wife even after she fucked some other guy. I did not ask her to explain why. I did not ask for her to come back to me. And to this day I still love the woman I married. But I hate the woman I divorced. They are to me two different people. I treat them differently as well. When my son is having a problem with his mother I tell him to listen to her for she is his mother. When I have to talk to the cunt I divorced there is no love in voice. Now I think I am pretty typical for a male. I have a few gay male friends and I am not attracted to them so I am pretty certain that I am not Bi-sexual either. And yet I have met many people who have been in my situation or Bruces for that matter. And the one thing I have learned Love makes you retarded. No one does the same thing, no one reacts the same way. You and I would not do the same thing. I waited for my wife to realize I no longer wanted anything to do with her. It took her a month. No yelling, I never raised a hand to or demeaned her in any way. Would you do the same? Probably not. Would I do the same again, I don't know. What I do know it cheating is about the cheater and the not cheated. My wife did nothing to me. What she did do was kill the person I was married too. And for that I will hate until God tells me not to. Angigue is not a man so her view of the male world is a skewed as mine is of the female. So Bruce seems gay to us. At least he does not seem a real man. Yet he is in love with his wife who is a slut. And that makes him retarded. Just like me.

ryu77ryu77over 15 years ago
Holy sh--

I thought ch 2 was the end of it but with this gave me hope for an awesome story. As always, I love how the author writes, and GOD DAMN this ch was good.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
THIS DOG DON'T HUNT # 55

Story is a dismal failure!Some of the comments attribute the failure to an allegation regarding the author's sexual preferences.Specifically, the author is unable to deal with male characters because she is a lesbian.NONSENSE!There are many fine writers of either sexual persuasion that are capable of writing about characters of the other preference.Their writing is superb because the reader feels an empathy for the situation that the characters find themselves living in the story.We,as readers,can associate the characters experiences with our own life experieces that are similar.The feelings of loss that one feels due to the failure of a marriage is very similar to feelings that we associate with death.There is a commonality that is universal.Given the fact that this author,he or she,has excellent technical writing skills;the failure to entertain must be attribited to a failure on the part of the author to develop a sense of empathy for the pain that the plot should engender in the reader.The narator is supposedly a male yet I do not feel like a male is talking to me.The author has failed to get inside the head of her or his own characters.Great authors are adept at getting inside the heads of both male and female characters.They achieve this by noting life experiences in themselves and others.I am not convinced that this particular author has ever had an in depth conversation with a hooker or her johns.The author has probably never dealt with infidelity except on a vicarious level.MARK TWAIN makes a joke in TOM SAWYER about a ridiculous school project given to eighth grade girls discussing the meaning of life.Perhaps these three stories should be taken in a similar tongue in cheek manner.RITTERBURG # 55

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
unique and disturbing.

I agree with many of the comments I have read. The writing that is displayed by this author is first rate and deserves great praise. She can weave a story that easily brings the reader into the head of her characters feeling what they feel. This is a gift that deserves high marks for her skills alone. <p>

But, I also have to state that leaving her skills apart, her stories can, sometimes be difficult and disturbing to read. Many times I have wished that she would take on characters that are easier for the reader to identify with and, yes, to like. It's hard to truly enjoy a series where you dislike the characters.<p>

In this case, I disagree with the concept that Bruce is in any way a wimp. Blind and complacent in his marriage, yes that was certainly true. Emotional and distraught and brooding over the divorce: most definitely. But a wimp? I don't think so.<p>

I think that Angiquesophie tends to write her male characters as somewhat androgenous, angst filled characters. They are not testoterone laden beasts that respond to any challenge with a fist or a brazen revenge scheme that will leave blood and chaos in its wake. Rather, they tend to get petty revenges and brood over injustice rather than just moving on with their lives. <p>

Maybe that is why so many of her male characters are so disturbing to the more rabid readers of this genre? She doesn't play to their fantasies: she picks at their insecurities. How many of the readers wish they were like "Rambo", but end up acting like Bruce in real life? From the number of men I have heard bitching about their exes over the years (while limiting their reactions to less than what Bruce did) I think she is describing more of us than we like to think. <p>

As for Miriam, she is a real complex character. I get the feeling that she has a story that will end up engendering at least some sympathy by the time this series ends. Maybe not enough to redeem her, but enough to understand her actions. I do want to hear what and why she acted like she did. I get the feeling that there is something in her past, possibly something tragic or life altering, that she has been running from for years. <p>

Let me try my hand at a crystal ball scenario to point out one possibility. Growing up, Miriam was a party girl with a bit of exhibitionist thrown in for good measure. She was sexually active and a bit of a slut. <p>

In college (possibly before she met Bruce), something happened to change her outlook. Either one of her parties got out of hand and she was essentially gang raped; she had a scare (either unwanted pregnancy or STD) or one of her fellow party girls went through something horrific. As a result, she vowed to "change her ways" and disavowed her earlier lifestyle. Thus the straight lace prude that Bruce got to know came to life. Her comments diaproving of the wild lifestyle can be seen as the disparaging comments of a former addict. <p>

However, at some point, something or someone brought her old character back to life. I suspect it was a result of her work. Her bosses recognized that she was an attractive woman that they could exploit to improve business. Either they recognized and played on her weaknesses or, as Bruce surmised, she was just seduced by the glamour of a grown up version of her party girl lifestyle. <P>

As a result, you end up with a woman with two real and conflicting desires. On the one hand, she has Bruce and the staid, conservative, safe life she knows that is the best thing for her. She loves Bruce because he is willing to accept her and love her for who she is, not what she is willing to do. He is the stability and dream life she knows that is best long term for her happiness. <p>

Does she really love Bruce? I don't know, it depends on how you define love. I certainly don't think she loves Bruce as much as he loves her. Obviously she doesn't trust him enough to help her wrestle with her demons while they are married. Maybe he is just her safety net for when she gets too old to play the game. But, I think she does love him, at least to some degree. <p>

Then you have Miriam's other side. The wild side that is addicted to the risk and danger of the night life. This side is willing to take chances and do the things that would mortify her staid image. Thus the clothes and the acceptance of her lover's public displays. (of course, it could have been just an empty display that she was putting on for a "special customer") <p>

It is very possible that Miriam has been living with guilt for years as she indulged in her wild side while trying her hardest to keep Bruce from suspecting. Remember, we have no idea how extensive her secret life actually was. It might have been just something that started small and grew or it could have been just an occasional thing she did when pressured by her bosses. <p>

If a chapter is told from her perspective, I can easily imagine Miriam being full of self loathing at times as she contemplates what she is doing to Bruce. In fact, I can even see her acts at the time of the divorce as coming from that self loathing. <p>

Bruce has stripped from her any pretense of her staid character. Thus, to justify her own behavior she has to abandon that facade and appear to wholly embrace her new life even if she doesn't want to. So her acts of dressing differently and flaunting it in her face are just whistling at the graveyard. <p>

I think one of the most telling parts of the third chapter was the description of her "plastic behavior" in the bar. Bruce realizes that her whole attitude is fake and not the "real" Miriam he had grown to know and love. It's telling that the only way she can survive her new reality is by hiding behind a shell.<p>

This was a good scene on a lot of respects. Reading about Bruce's reactions, we saw how thin the crust he had built over his depression really was. And then, when she called in tears, you realize her crust over her self loathing was just as thin. No wonder she broke down. <p>

I think she is once again realizing the shallow nature and emptiness of the flash life she got forced into when Bruce left her. The glamour of her alternate lifestyle has faded and she longs for a return to the safety of her life with Bruce but realizes that she may have pissed it away. <p>

Is this type of dual life far fetched? Not really. Not if you look at it in terms of a self destructive addictive behavior. You could substitute a hidden alcohol, drug, gambling or even pornography addiction and come up with a similar story. <p>

I just don't know if it is possible (or realistic) to come up with a happy ending. <p>

Great writing. CCM

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
this is an answer to angiquesopie

your story is exellently designed and well written. the characters are, well a bit to much. to week , to stupid, to cruel.... but it's a story. but just for the 3 parts so far you should get 100 points if and that's the main point here, if it would be a book some where in a library under I don't know what section. So as it is not erotic at all (and you know you could write something damn erotic if you liked), you only get half the points.

PS: to the kiddis out there who are proud to write so much crap to each other. why don't you all get lost!

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
my perspective

i love seeing that a new story has been posted by this author, and at the same time i hate 9 out of 10 stories that she writes. The fact that i have any emotion in regards to her stories is in itself great since half the crap that gets written on this site i could care less about. Whats also great about emotional stories that have the ability to connect with people is the response section where you get to see what readers project onto the story itself. While reading the comments i came across Tearsofsarrows2's first post and while i think his argument is genuine and well thought out i have to respectively call out bullshit. We have absolutely no clue as to Myr's motivation, we can't even really tell if anything she says at all is truth or fiction. Myr's been an outright liar throughout the entire story, why should we believe anything she says now? And since when does a hooker need to have a stable home life in order to function, and for a women that over two years has never tried to contact her ex husband i somehow find it hard to believe that her whole life has fallen apart. In fact throughout your entire assessment i felt that you've fallen into the same trap as Bruce, you want to believe that somewhere inside is a good women so your content to give her the benefit of the doubt and convince yourself that she is capable of change and if not that then at least sorrow while i believe neither to be the case. As far as evil is concerned in my opinion which is neither scientific nor fact, true evil is indifference to others suffering. Myriam doesn't care about anything or anyone but herself and that's all too apparent.

GenghisKhanGenghisKhanover 15 years ago
See, I know

that is Harry stick to fictional stories in Literotica --- without comparing one political figure with another -- that he and I would agree almost all the time... <p>

any person who said this story was believable or well written, they need some sleep! this is BOTH outright hilarious, as Harry said, and stupid piece of gibberish nonsense... and I don't say this only because I think the husband is OBVIOUSLY made out to be a totally stupid. he is. it is how the author made the husband think he is smart, reflective, and able human being ---- that's what made the story a total turd, without any redeeming value; it's not even enterntaining... <p>

but I like the Sarah Palin not only endorsing but also articulating Stephen Hawking astrophysical and astronomical phenomena, Harry! and some people still think Palin IS THE FUTURE of the GOD Party,,, which,,, wait,,, that's true! LOL

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
Congratulations old man....

You did three very good things. First, you knew what she was and had become. Second, you would not let her tell you what a bad person she was, you just held her till she drifted offf to sleep. Third, it sounds as if you are now able to get on with your life because you now see her for what she was and is. Find another woman to be with for a long time, but for goodness sakes, don't marry her and have to go through the same thing again. No marriage and no divorce and you can just walk away.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
Good Writing Doesn't Sell Books - Neither Do

a boatload of miserable unlikeable characters who have no self respect. <P>

There can't be any credibility in contrived characters or twisted plot paths.<P>

In this case even though the gibberish is well written were this a pay as you go site - you couldn't pay most enough to read about weak writer contorted self demeaning non-people time after time after time after - you get the idea.<P>

So - She is here to garner attention albeit mostly raw negative anger. I wonder what drives her to the pain expected and desired?<P>

Perhaps someday she will want more then what she feels she deserves.

Harryin VAHarryin VAover 15 years ago
great analysis CCM... Brillant.. BUT

CCM

Great analysis... really spot on. That being said... lt me point out that I have NOT called Bruce a WIMP.

<br></br>

<b>and for the recrod I have not in anyway suggest that Bruce strike kick slap punch or use any kind of physical force or even the THREAT of force.</b>

<br></br>

Never once have I hinted at that.

<br></br>

I have stated what I see as glaring inconsistencies with character development and striking similarites between this story / Bruce and this author almost all of this author previous LW story.

<br></br>

CMM it is NOT RAMBO like to wonder why Bruce has such a feminine outburst at the bar scene when he runs into Myriam 2 years his divorce. (THAT outburst should of ocurred at the Divorce settlement.)

<br></br>

It is NOT Testosterone driven to wonder why Bruce feels ashamed.

<br></br>

I may be direct &somewhat confrontationa but my questions and points whether one agrees with them or not ...are rational and NOT based on throw "the bitch out" mentality.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
I absolutely love the story

and am amazed at the readers who continue to apparently read chapter after chapter just so they can write another silly criticism. JUST QUIT READING!!! dockwatcher

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 14 years ago
IDIOT STILL...

HOW CAN HE FUNCTION AT HIS JOB BEING SO STUPID. STORY IS NOT BELIEVABLE

norcal62norcal62almost 11 years ago
Along with all the previous psychoanalysis; too little consistency in hubbie's

character. Others pointed out the trait of all the author's leading males being weak. That's one factor, but why does she make him the big industrial strongman, but unable to confront, to deal with trauma? Those surely are traits of a highly successful businessman.

BobNbobbiBobNbobbialmost 11 years ago
Dallas!!!

"I heard a husky breath in her voice that had never been there before. It reached out for my crotch."

I've heard that voice, in Dallas no less. She had seduced my college roommate and eventually broke up his marriage. She tried the same tactics with me. She was good in bed but I got away in time. My marriage survived for a goodly number more years.

AnonymousAnonymousover 8 years ago

Jesus what dogshit.

Drbeamer3333Drbeamer3333almost 8 years ago
Second time through...

This is so emotionally gripping. Still a favorite. Still love it. Still five stars.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 8 years ago
Three Chapters Of Purple Comedy

Yes, three. It took me three chapters to figure out that angie is a gay jewish man from New York.

Angie, you're writing us into a very bizarre head-space. I don't like it in here. A doughy spot in the middle of a moldy bagel.

When he gets up in a huff and storms away from Erica at the table...omg...H.I.S.S.Y.F.I.T. This is like a black comedy. No, a Purple Comedy :))

Adios!! On to saner pastures.

Tootight1Tootight1over 7 years ago
good

I can see and feel the reality in this chapter. It is a good representation.

AnonymousAnonymousover 7 years ago
Just another heartless Cunt and a sissy loser story

When she called him at 3am and said she wanted to die I would have laughed and said Good luck, then hung up. End of story. But he isn't a man, just another sissy loser. Just like all of the husbands in this horrible writers stories.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
UGH!!!!

Pathetic....just plain pathetic!!!

Chief3BlanketChief3Blanketabout 6 years ago
Don’t know

To weak people on a roller coaster.

chytownchytownalmost 6 years ago
Good Read***

On to Ch. 4. Thanks for sharing.

oldbearswitcholdbearswitchover 5 years ago
My gosh, just when I was getting a bit concerned about the pace, a nice plot twist

At the end of the scene.

As a fellow wrier, I had sort of figured out she was a pro.How else could she act so much in love with another yet be so steadfast in her assertion of devotion to him.

The letter on her was a nice touch!

AnonymousAnonymousover 4 years ago
So far....

you try and get us to believe that an idiot is successful in business or could be successful in anything really....c'mon he's an idiot end of story! Gave this cuckie story exactly what it deserved ....1.

Virgo6Virgo6over 3 years ago
Enjoying

This has me hooked, I like these characters. Perfect people make boring stories or no story at all. I did not like him getting up and running out on Erica at dinner. That was pretty childish but overall high marks.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 3 years ago

Is this mess going in any direction?

I would have stopped with the lesbian and called it quits. Alas, we need more chapters to fulfill the minimum boredom requirement

Smokepole

Mr_Sap24Mr_Sap24almost 3 years ago

The mistery is killing me.

amygdalaamygdalaalmost 3 years ago

This chick has a split personality!!!!

26thNC26thNCover 2 years ago

He’s just too weak to cut the bitch loose.

dirtyoldbimandirtyoldbimanabout 2 years ago

and he just walks out?

buzzsawlennybuzzsawlennyalmost 2 years ago

Nah i like the way he handled that.. don't let her tell the story of the 1000 ways she betrayed you from the jump... He was the better person, he comforted her then he bounced the fuck out. You don't get the loving sensitive guy if you're in the whore game, she made her choice. She belongs to the streets

bobareenobobareenoover 1 year ago

After all of his anguish, he wouldn’t let her tell her tale? He is like a heroine in a trashy romance novel with the back of his hand to his forehead, looking askance and saying, “Don’t tell me now, you need my kindness more!” I am enjoying the story, but this character is a fey fellow, indeed.

AnonymousAnonymousover 1 year ago

This is a hard slog.

But I'm persevering....

AnonymousAnonymousabout 1 year ago

OK. This just jumped the shark. Completely unbelievable.

It's become tedious. When I have to "work" to get through a few pages...like torture? Then the story has become not worth my time.

I won't be reading any more of the "inbetween"...I'm just going to skip to the end.

StubbyoneStubbyone9 months ago

I have to say I have no idea what goes through the minds of the bulk of the men who comment negatively on your story. I almost said “comment on your writing,” but most don’t. I think society has devolved into “instant gratification or nothing.” Slow build ups and wait for it scenarios are a thing of the past.

This chapter was written incredibly well. You really are an exceptional author. This slice of life, full of angst and heartache feels amazingly real. Perhaps it is. Either way it is some of the best writing I’ve had the pleasure to read. Love it.5-❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

(First time giving ❤️’s)

AnonymousAnonymous4 months ago

That was an unexpected twist … has this been her background career all along? … a double life? … was the corporate import export job merely a bluff?

Fantastic stuff well written too.

5*

Jim

Anonymous
Our Comments Policy is available in the Lit FAQ
Post as:
Anonymous
userangiquesophie@angiquesophie
1327 Followers
42 years ago I was born near Brussels, the Belgian capital. Since my 15th birthday I live in Amsterdam, where I own a small fashion atelier. We specialize in custom designed corsets and assessories that cater to the exclusive tastes of a wealthy, discreet clientele with a cert...

READ MORE OF THIS SERIES