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by The Navigator04/23/10

Nice try

But no cigar. First, several missing words and a couple of grammar goofs -- see the 6th paragraph of the story -- threw me off your usually well paced writing. Second, the ending left me feeling like I stepped off a cliff. The build up to it was very good; I had no idea where you were leading us. But the ending just fell apart, after an interesting and different story. I have no idea for a better ending. It would need a lot of thought to come up with one. It is just the story deserved a better conclusion. Keep us the good writing. You have come a long way!

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by Rehnquist04/23/10

Major Gaps.

I liked this story, which is a detour from most of your stories. You see, I really love most of your stories, but this one I only liked. The reasons? A couple, really. First, too much backstory on Stella, but not enough present story. We know she was the school nerd, then became the glamour queen, then somehow reverted. Unfortunately, we have no idea why she reverted or, for that matter, to what degree she reverted before her marriage dissolved. I understand and agree that the confrontation with the weeping and excuses is cliche, but it would've been nice to figure out a way to work that into the story somehow. By not doing so, you've left a major gap in the characterization that leave her all too one-dimensional.

Second, the same goes for Julie. Was she just a tramp? What was her marriage like? Though adultery is never justifiable, it is certainly explainable for the writer to the reader. Instead of trying to explore why Julie was a tramp, you just painted her as one, painted poor Jerry as the aggrieved party, and left it at that. By doing so, I think you missed an opportunity for our protagonist to find out more about what was going on--taking some time rather than just running from the sheets to the tavern--between Julie and Jerry, which would have also, perhaps, given us insight into not just Julie and Jerry, but into our knight in shining armor as well.

All told, the basic plot and theme are sound. I just think the whole thing needed to be fleshed out more. By merely painting the women as unscrupulous whores who spread their legs just because they want to and the men as the completely innocent, aggrieved parties, you have offered no insight into the characters. As a result, they all come accross as one-dimensional, interchangeable caricatures. Thus, Julie and Stella are interchangeable, as are Jerry and the protagonist.

I, for one, have long suffered the criticism that my stories are too long. Still, this would've been more powerful had some more attention been paid to the present motivations rather than the history of the characters.

In either event, please keep writing, because I immediately go to and devour all of your stories.

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by bruce2204/23/10

Seem to have lost my original comment!

I even saw it "posted!" Unfortunately all I remember is that I liked the story as is for quick and emotional communication, but I did comment that I would really like to know what was going on in Stella's mind when she booked the encounter with another man. Certainly the lie was a good enough reason for declaring the marraige over and the make out session was window dressing. The idea that you have to do the dirty deed in a fully conscious manner in order to kill a marriage is absurd...

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by tennmac04/23/10

Finish it

Great story as always, but I for one would like to see you finish it.

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by Anonymous04/23/10

Story is again very good with Woodmanone is the author

Good story. However, From reading up to this point, I believe that there is more to this story. If not, then there should be another chapter. RAG

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by Anonymous04/23/10

Stupid. Doesn't make any sense.

How does Jack punishing Steve (Steve intentionally getting his own ass kicked by an irate husband, in effect Pearl Harboring himself) for something he didn't know about or have control over, have anything to do with Stella intentionally cheating on Steve and not receiving any retribution (ie punishment in Steve's words)? Goofy, hillbilly logic. I'll get myself hurt because I was hurt when I was involved in something similar?!?! Cut off my nose to spite my face?!?! Been at the moonshine again ain't ya author?

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by Harryin VA04/23/10

um Payback?.... er what? where? who? when ?

Um where is the Pay Back? anyone?

well you know me.. If there are massive plot holes and inconsistencies in the story I have this strong tendency of sinking it even though it's well written and this story is a perfect case of that.

By the time we finished the story the opening scene still makes no sense. Steve had no idea that this new woman he was hooking up with was Married. Yet for some reason it occurs to him ... "Hey I should tell the husband so he can kick by ass..."

It makes NO sense. Zero. and that has NO connection to what Stella did to him .


Steve's initial reaction when he runs into Stella IS rather well done. But there was a clue in the changes in Stella that Steve never saw. The fact that Stella twisted things around in college after they broke up is a dangerous sign. First even Stella conceded that Steve did nothing intentionally hurtful or wrong and that it was the internal workings of her own mind that caused her to blame Steve.

Then that she used this convoluted thinking to motivate herself into improving herself... Which is a good thing. But instead the Motivation warpped Stella into a vain self centered obnoxious person.

That sort of twisting of reality and motivation actually reveals s a pretty dangerous mindset and a character flaw. Steve found the new Stella to be unpleasant but he never considered what her actions and changes meant about her character.

Thus he was caught blindsided by the changes several years into the marriage. Maybe there is more to depth of Stella but since she is not really well developed as a character...

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by zed004/23/10

Great Story, Enjoyed the Hell Out of It!

Never mind the minor grammatical errors, the readers knew what you were saying. I think this story could use a second chapter, as merely divorcing Stella seems a little light on payback.

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by lancewm04/23/10

Very nicely written...

Enjoyed most of it. The story build up was great, but then it just fell down at the end. We really don't know much about the female characters. Stella had two personalities that are never reconciled. We have no idea what really went on. Steve was not sensitive enough or cared enough before he caught her to sit her down and talk about what was going on with her. He had opportunities when Stella reverted to Queen and then said she was sorry. So what we really get is a husband and wife who are both one dimensional. When conflict occurs in a story, the author has the opportunity to bring out the dimensions of the people involved. This did not happen. The story was cut off when Steve took the action of divorce and never talked to Stella except to say we’re done, and also when he did not talk to Julie but instead went to find the husband. We had some action, but the conflict situations showed us nothing in depth about the people, just the surface.

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by Anonymous04/23/10

Good story-telling....

but the ending feels wanting. I hope there is more. For the most part, I enjoy your pieces.

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by chytown04/23/10

ZZZZZZZZZZZ

That was boring. You have written better. Write another one.

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by Anonymous04/23/10

sorry guys

just that happened to me. got real angry. have a couple of friends so I can show up and disappoint both ladies ex and cheater girlfriend with almost every new conquest. so far a lot of fun guys and I really don't suffer.

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by Anonymous04/24/10

Boring? I didn't think so.

Thanks for taking the time Woodmanone, and there's a lot I can adhere to, on both sides of the fence. May i just add it's great to have the polite, astute comments of Rehnquist(?) on board? Good man...Mancelt.

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by Pistolpackinpete04/24/10

I stand by my comments on SOL but in light of what has been said here....Harry

....First- Harry, you must have experienced or witnessed someone taking a sustainable hit or two for the good of the larger picture? (Think "Rope-a-dope.) Author, now I believe you just got a little scrambled telling a cautionary tale about the cost of "self-improvement".???

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by bigchefwayne04/24/10

Good Story

The change of Stella from a geek to a super girl requires some suspension of disbelief - but then doesn't all good fiction? We have seen good old 'Harry from Va' coming back with his incredibly bad comments. The board would have been better and the authors more fairly evaluated if he had kept his word and left this site. Unfortunately he did not, and his constant tearing down of authors leaves all of us without what could be some of their best work.

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by Anonymous04/24/10

Hmmm ... Its different

Well, not your best but agreeably not a bad one either.
The jest of the story was nice.(I couldnt find it more than nice) However a few anecdotes that have been repetedly used have taken the flavour off it.
Like I said before, it wasnt bad. And well, i guess i did notice the neutral ending, may be there is another part for a good ending in works? Hope so.
Pen On Mate.
-SpawnKing

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by SW_MO_Hermit04/25/10

Good One

Well written logical story. You have once again "done it right". SW MO Hermit.

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by sexmate04/29/10

What Payback? Not with Stella.

Payback to yourself or to Jack because you told Jack his wife Julie was a cheating whore?

Stella had some serious character flaws he didn't recognize in the early days before they were married. That being said I thought the lead in to your story was laboriously long and took away from the story which should have concentrated on the marriage and the cheating.

So with that being said I thought there was missing info or more to the story at it's conclusion. Its ending was seriously lacking and left me wanting a better end.

I will look for your stories again with hope.

Thanks for writing

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by Anonymous08/22/10

End?

It seems like this story is unfinished, no closure. Good read nonetheless.

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by Anonymous12/01/10

WTF

that's it??? dumbass!!!

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by Anonymous12/12/10

Not Finished

Sneaky goddess Stella needed to have some payback. Just seeing her Ex with other women was no big deal. She wanted her cake and eat it too, she lied and sneaked around behind his back...I would have hoped that she ran into an adonis who demeaned her, treated her like dirt and made her do things she didn't like. She could only go back to being Queen Bee for so long and then age would begin to take over. No more young and easily affected admirers, just older, smarter cocksman who would know how to deal with her and use her...maybe even a pimp gets his hands on her.

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by BILLYTHEGER02/14/11

Y COULD SHE NOT JUST LEAVE HIM . Y CUCKOLD HIM . I WISH THESE SLUTS WOULD JUST END THE MARRIAGE INSTEAD OF CAUSING A FUCKING MESS

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by robinhod03/07/11

Good story

weird comments. Life isn't perfect and neither are people, so why do these uneducated readers get into such a state? I enjoyed it so thank you woodmanone.

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by norcal6205/03/11

The running away, cowardly husband is the bane of LW stories.

I've decided that if I come across another LW story where the husband just cuts and runs away, crying in self pity, I'll skip the rest of the tale.
Authors have to be more creative than having the male be a dunce or an arrogant basher, who in addition refuses to confront the woman. It's just to much lazy writing. Other commenters mention lack of character development in this story, and the husband, as almost always in LW, will not listen to any explanation. If the author is interested in exploring feelings and motives, I'll be right there.

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by Kyuzio05/08/11

What cowardly, running away husband?

norcla62, I'm a bit confused, here. You talk about a cowardly husband who runs away, but I didn't see one in this story. He confronted Stella and her boyfriend when he saw them. He told her, straight up, that they were done. A clear cut confrontation there. Sure, he didn't "discuss" it with her but, seriously, she lied to him to go out with this dickhead, she was making out with him, and it was obvious from her "Queen Stella attitude" over the last several weeks that it had been going on for awhile. She says she didn't sleep with the guy, but she's already been proven a liar. Why should he believe her? I just don't see how you think he was cowardly or running away.

Sure, there could have been more character development, there always can be more! Otherwise, a good story with a different kind of twist.

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by lonewolf330706/14/11

No real heroes in this one.

This story is well written, as always, but the characters, even Steve, just don't seem very likable to me. Of course, there isn't any sense in discussing Stella's likability but Steve seemed a little too laid back for his own good. Oh well, you can't win them all.

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by DWornock07/05/11

I would like the story much better if it was logical.

It is highly unlikely that an ass like Steve could have married such a pretty and desirable girl because he is too macho. They are often the kind of guys girls will have for a one night stand but seldom a relationship.

Steve couldn't tell her not to go home. It doesn't work that way. She would call the police and the police would tell him to get a few items and leave. The next day she would get a restraining order and he couldn't come close to her or the apartment.

Also, taking the guys DL was strong armed robbery--a felony. However, the story overlooks that and the fact that he would be arrested and put in jail.

Although a few complain about typos or similar, I though the story was well written and easy to read and understand.

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by Gualterio07/10/11

What happened to "happy endings"?

Wow! This story is definitely NOT typical woodmanone material. He is known for his happy endings and admirable characters. I kept waiting for the twist that would make everything turn out all right and it never came! LOL

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by Anonymous12/23/11

norcal once again you talk that cuckold shit

who gives a fuck why she cheated. why doesn't matter. and no one but you would spend all this time running behind a slut.

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by betrayedbylove04/27/12

You get your revenge any way you can

Good story.
I hate cheating wives.
All should contract aids.


Notice I didn't say die of aids.
HA

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by tazz31704/27/12

AND WHEN YOU GO WITH THE FLOW

make sure you have a paddle, TK U MLJ LV NV

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by pjagdm01/04/13

Finally a guy with some balls

Good read. He didn't wait and see what was already too obvious. He got right to it and got rid of the lying cheating cunt. He has morals too, that's refreshing.

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by Drbeamer333301/20/13

Loved it!

I actually loved this story. My favorite of yours. Very high quality, an interesting tale, and a great moral. This is not simply a "my wife cheated so I'm leaving" story. There is a much higher message than simply that of fidelity to ones marriage vows. This woman's problem was much deeper. I have a feeling that she didn't actually cheat by sleeping with the guy in the bar. However, she did lie and disrespect her husband. And more seriously, she choose to go back to her conceited ways. That is her sin. She sold her soul to vanity, and it was ultimately her demise. When he sees her in the bar after her divorce, she may well look happy fully ensconced in her sycophantic entourage. However, the reader knows the truth. She may be laughing on the outside, but is dying on the inside. At least, this is what I surmise. When she first reunited with her husband, she admitted that she had changed her life for him and was empty in it without him. The fundamental flaw of this story is that we will never know. Is she secretly miserable on the inside, having given up the one thing that gave her fulfillment? Again, this is what I suppose, based on what was previously written. But unfortunately she disappears from the story far too quickly, and Julie and Jake take center stage. Thus we are left wondering. Perhaps, the whole "your the missing piece of my life" story she spun was simply a ploy to get another thing she wanted. Maybe she never loved him and just got to the point where she missed her old life and was ready to go back to it. Then, when he sees her in the bar with her friends, she actually is happy and is in fact the real winner in this story (getting what she wants). Again, I don't think this is the authors intention. But, the storyline was dropped too quickly and we will never know.

I am impressed with how much you packed into this short story. Excellent work. Thanks.

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by Drbeamer333301/20/13

One more thought

My favorite line in the story:

"I didn't know if it had gone farther than a make out session or if she had been to bed with the guy, but it didn't make any difference. The first time she blatantly lied to me, the first time she passionately kissed this guy, the first time she snuck off to be with him, our marriage was over."

Beautifully written observation.

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by phil221303/22/13

good story

The story was well described had high emotion but the original cheating wife went into oblivion without explanation of her thinking especially about her marriage and eventual divorce. The core issue missing:" was she happy"? I feel this issue in particular was at the crucible of the plot and title theme of the story. The author may have missed an opportunity that could change this from 4 stars to a 5stars story

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by EAPoe05/23/13

There was no payback of any kind.

This story felt like two stories crammed into one - Stella's and Julie's. And neither one was finished.

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by Anonymous12/22/13

I missed the "Payback".

He married her. He saw her kissing another man, he divorced her. Without ever really talking or listening to her since he decided NOTHING she said would matter.
Doesn't seem like much of a marriage if you can't talk to your spouse. Regardless of how angry you are. May have still divorced her, but not to talk? Gutless move. Okay story with a few holes. No way the guy gives him his wallet in a public place like that. He tries to take it and he goes to jail. With a felony assault on his record, he loses 90% of the assets in the divorce and it kills his career. Just couldn't believe that part.

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by Anonymous01/25/14

Not bad!

I enjoyed it. A man with balls and morals.

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by Anonymous01/29/14

What Was There To Talk About?

The fact that the cheated-on husband didn't speak to his straying wife seems to have bothered several commenters but, really, what is there to talk about? Why bother? Wifey's behavior spoke volumes: she didn't respect her marriage or her husband, she lied and snuck around to meet other men, and if she was wasn't already fucking the new guy or guys, it was only a question of when. Seriously, what is there to say? What could she possibly say that would change what her behavior made crystal clear? What else does hubby need to know? Would he feel better knowing this was the first or forty-first? But wait....she is a proven liar and cheat. What ever she says is suspect and probably self-serving. Ignoring the cheater, not caring what she had to say for herself, showed her how little he thought of cheaters, including her. I think Woodmanone got it exactly right.

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by Anonymous01/29/14

Close one

So glad Stella got away from this asshole.

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by Rhomanov04/28/14

Tad Short

Good till the end. Read it twice and still feels like the end is unfinished.
Not bad still.

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by Anonymous05/12/14

I'm surprised at some of the responses

Why would anyone want to stay with a woman like Stella, or a man if he were like Stella? It doesn't matter if she spread her legs and ended up with a crusty cunt full of another mans sperm. What matters is that she lied to her HUSBAND to go out with another man. Really, its just that simple.

Her next step, had she not been caught, would have been petting then finally getting her much anticipated crusty cunt full of cum. Remember, they agreed if they wanted someone else, they'd talk about it before and go their separate ways.

So I ask the naysayers once again, why would anyone wish to continue living with a cheating wife, not knowing if she was out cheating if she made an extra stop at another store?

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by Anonymous07/20/14

No Wonder Stella Fooled Around

"I'm to the right of John Wayne." It's understandable that any woman would cheat on a man, whose wardrobe consists of brown shirts and hobnailed jackboots.

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by BuzzCzar07/25/14

Unfinished

Nope, didn't work for me.

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by carvohi09/08/14

How is it I get to the party so late?

This was well written. It held my interest. But then it just dropped. Too bad; I'd have liked to have heard more about Stella. Sure she turned out to be zirconium, but still there had to be reasons. I would have liked to have heard them. I would have liked to have seen the two of them start dating again also. Well that's just me, but I thought the girl had issues.I thought she'd picked the right guy, but somewhere she'd fallen off the emotional wagon. She had a story.

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by betrayedbylove12/29/14

Damn

Read it again. I can't believe the balls of these worthless cheating cunts. Neither one got the proper consequences but at least the husbands are free from them.
Stupid whores

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by tazz31712/29/14

TO GO WITH-----THE FLOW

usually means your up some kind of creek. TK U MLJ LV NV

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by sugna01/12/15

Why?

I can tell you why - pure narcissism. That is why most people cheat - the ego rush of being desired by a new person and the feeling of being smarter than your spouse by getting over on them and "cheating" them out of an honest relationship. Revenge? Why bother? Cheaters are losers. They are insecure, not too bright, and the only thing they have going for them is their looks or their money - most of the time. How does it feel to be nothing more than a fleshy doll for some other loser to masturbate into? Hence the term cum dumpster. In the case of a lot of male cheaters - how does it feel to be nothing more than a bank roll for a woman who is using you for a few bucks? Why do you need to do anything to these people for revenge? They are already fucked! They have to live with themselves and their shitty characters for the rest of their miserable lives! The best thing you can do if you meet a shithead is to get away from them as fast as possible. If you are married to one of them, they probably do lot's of other fucked up stuff beyond cheating. You are better off without them.

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by Anonymous08/08/15

An okay, if unsatisfying, tale of cheating

Not every story needs to end in blowing someone up. Not every story ends in reconciliation. But in this case two egotistical, narcissistic, self centered cheaters walked away from their actions with little or no repercussions. Which they had both earned and deserved. And while throwing people under the bus may seem petty, it can help in putting bad things behind. Both Julie and Stella needed to have their actions exposed to at least their family and friends. No sense in allowing them to think he or Jack were in anyway responsible for their divorces. That seems like common sense, but this is a fictional story. One other big hole. No way Stella's boy toy hands him his driver's license. And if he even touches him to try and take it, he goes to jail for a minimum of 1 year, pays a substantial fine (especially if his actions leads to pretty boys divorce - he would have sued) and does a lot of community service. I found that part to be implausible. Other then that it was well written. I just didn't like the conclusions you reached for the men involved.

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by Anonymous08/31/15

my opinion only. The girls got what they deserved but it would be better to give them more exposure. The low score is not about your writing, I just do not like that kind of situation.
Ed Grocott
edgrocott@gmail.com

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