Essay: A Theory of Angry Cucks

Interesting but...

You missed another possibility. Men our society have been told many things in the last few decades. One of which is that they must cater to women's needs and wants. That the power they may have had is no longer valid and that in fact they are not needed.

So you take a man that has been put down, has no real idea of his role in society and you offer him a story that illustrates his preceived powerlessness. What do you expect his reaction to be? I would say that it is very likely that reaction will be anger. What do you think LynnGKS?

most deserve it

as a man who has been with married women . . and who has probably been cucked by ex's of mine . . I can say with complete confidence that most men fully deserve it when their wives spread their legs for other men . . . most men tend to be self-centered dimwits who after the initial conquest of a woman (with all the attendant effort and attention to her wants, needs, and desires) he then slips back into his own self-absorbed world and she is relegated to a very minor role on his priority list . . . . . . . . and men HATE to be reminded that in truth THEY are the ones who have brought it on themselves . . . . I suspect that is why you get the angry comments . . because some men get really pissed off when more than likely it is their own fault when their wife goes out and gets laid (and possibly preg) by other men

No real answers, except I almost

never delete comments and I get some ugly ones at times. Men are more complex than we may appear. Something may seem erotic to fantasize about, but we do have our pride. Most would much rather make our neighbor a cuck than become one. The former is cool and the latter is a nighmare. Many readers insist they want to kill the unfaithful wife and do far worse to the lover. To think that a man would willingly become a cuck causes barin clouds in many men. Some because they fear it might happen, or it has happened, or part of them wants it to happen. Others just hate the thought of some guy banging their woman. Why readers become so insulting, rather than just not reading the story is a mystery, especially those stories with Cuckold in the title. But then readers will check out interracial stories and go ballistic when races mix in the story. Why read it if they really do not like it? Is it possible they do like it but cannot admit it? I just accept it as human behavior.

I Wonder Why You Write What You Write.

I think a ex really pissed you off and because of that you like to belittle men and in general piss them off. You do a pretty good job which is why I skip your stories.

Are authors any better?

I used to post stories here but had them all removed some time ago, partly because I wanted to expose them in a different arena, but also because I felt that the people who were reading them were not capable of appreciating them as I would wish them to be appreciated. The reason I thought this was the very angry and insulting comments I received for stories which were frankly quite tame compared to many on offer here.

But I have another comment; among authors of Loving Wives stories there is a similar mindset. There are very many stories where the wronged husband recounts with gleeful self-justification the revenge he wreaks on the erring wife and her lover, and a common feature is the rigid "wrong me once and there's no going back because you're broken my trust and I'm such a manly man" attitude. Personally I feel that rigid obstinacy is often the refuge of the truly weak and ineffectual. So perhaps that's the real problem with some of our abusive readers - that they're wimps trying to convince themselves they're tough?

waste of good talent

You're not a bad writer, from the one story that I actually read. But, I write critical comments ["angry" to use your wording] because I do not like these stories, I do not like the arrant disrespect that a man is shown by that one who is supposed to love him the most. Most of all, I dislike these stories because they are typically found in "Loving Wives". While a wife who would take such actions against her husband, and a husband who would tolerate such disrespectful behavior may be your definition of a 'loving wife', to me it screams [see, 'angry' language again] of slut wife, and wimpy possible cum-sucking husband. If you want to write this kind of crap, by all means do so, it's still a free county {although I"m starting to worry when the White house bans a news organization}. Just accept that there are people like me who despise this kind of behavior, and will not accept any premise that purports to make this a 'loving wife" - husband relationship. Put a warning in the preliminary notes, or put these stories in the category where they rightfully belong, hell, let's call this behavior what it is - "FETISH". That's my explanation for my commenting, when I actually do so. If I get sufficient warning in advance that the husband is a wimpy cuck, then I pass on the stories; which is why I never read yours anymore.

Thoughtful essay.....

I have been surprised and at times amused by the sheer quantity and the ferocity of the negative comments posted on the Hotwife and Cuckold themed stories on Literotica. I have come to believe that the vast majority of these mostly male, almost always anonymous posters are rather insecure individuals that are incapable of either having good relationships with attractive women or have spouses that are timid, most likely frumpy and dominated by these very individuals. These same men on their own free time feel empowered to go to strip joints and ogle scantily clad women or make demeaning comments about women in their workplaces. Their general lack of respect for women in society leads them to be controlling and threatened by women and relationships that allow for sexual freedom and equality in sexual play.
I suspect these posters are the same readers of bondage and incest stories. I pass on those types of themes as I have no interest and frankly, those themes border on poor taste if not illegal behavior in this country. Besides a small handful of outdated laws, there is really nothing illegal about extramarital play. Immorality aside, it is a life choice and not something to be threatened by.
Thank you for introducing this conversation to Literotica. Judging from the type of posts you have received thus far, it has sadly fallen on largely deaf ears.

I dunno what the opposite of a misogynist is!

I just call it male bashing. It's not the cuckold fetish, it's the betrayal of trust. When a writer portrays a man accepting cuckoldry in the form of forgiveness, THAT is when you will see the anger surface. It insinuates that the forgiving (neutered) male will over look minor to major peccadillo(s), in the name of love. This is a quality more often attributed to women. When women writers, or male (non-men) writers with obvious closet cuck tendency's, write about some poor humiliated schlub, who is forced to stay in some sick sham of a marriage, because he is too needy/ insecure to get on with his life, and form healthy non-neurotic relationships with a decent honest women, is just downright insulting to men. I don't see a problem with a cuckold/humiliation/swinging/swapping fantasy/fetish, in fact it could be some kind fun. But to read a whole, and generally well written story, that has the man emasculated at the end, will insult most normal men (the "torch the bitch crowd" as the wimps, women, and non-men refer to us). Since we don't have (or are possibly not in touch with) our closet cuck fantasy, we resent being exposed to such seamy (wimpy) behavior, when all we were looking for was a bit of erotica (okay fucking) and justice (revenge) for the wronged party. For what it's worth I don't like stories where the guy cheats with no consequences either, but I read these stories for the tension created when some hapless guy discovers his spouse is balling someone else, and how he handles it. For years I just quietly accepted the wimp out endings, and would even give high scores to disgusting wimp out, reconcile at all costs stories, just because they were well written. My epiphany came with the realization that a crappy story was a crappy story no matter how well told or written. If I don't like the story or it's ending, my comments to the author are not me trying to tell them how to write or end a story, my comments to the author are me telling them I didn't like the story because of content or ending or both. So while I may be battling wind mills, I believe my crusade is a noble one. To defend male honor against the forces wimpydom, and to comment with fervent fervor against stories that propagate an agenda of cheating without major consequence.

I don't like "cuck" stories but I read them ...

because you can't tell if they are going to be a real "cuck" (ie: humiliation) story or a genuine wife watching/couple's story type of story. For instance your stories I have ready maybe the first two chapters discovered that they aren't really my cup of tea and left the rest alone.Mind I don't hate them and I don't judge and leave nasty comments for the author or anyone who likes that type of thing.
I do HATE "revenge" stories which seem to me mind to be mainly about the wronged husband being as misogynistic as he possibly can (If I hear the phrase "alienation of affection lawsuit" again I'm going to puke). Some stories can be somewhat in between (such as Ohio's) and these I do enjoy as they usually involve growth in both characters and often end in reconciliation. But again people like revenge stories so I don't attack the genre or leave comments.
What I don't see anymore (beyond the quick "my wife is a slut and I love it" type stroke stories that occasionally pop up here) is serious stories in the loving wives category that show loving couples experimenting with wife watching/sharing together in a non humiliating and progressive way. There used to be lots of these type of stories written but now Loving Wives stories seem to be either cuck or Revenge with nothing in between except the cheap stroke stuff. I still think the best story I've ever read on this site was Neighborhood Wives : Maddy by kicksaveandabeauty even though I hated "maddy" as I thought she did the dirty on her husband in a "cuck" type way that was never explained. As for repressed cucks .. I see many of them commenting in loving wives but most express themselves in such a base "kick the slut out" manner hidden behind their so called "christian" values that I do not take them seriously. You shouldn't either.

You wanna know why?

Because most cuck authors troll us and mislead us. Like in a movie where you are promised a happy film with a good ending in the trailer and get the exact opposite in the movie-theater.
Also , sometimes the authors present their fetish with extreme high and mighty attitude , for example: "nothing compares to how erotic this lifestyle is" and the like. Spare me , it's just a fetish.
A few more times , the story is just gay sex or cuck stories 'end up' in wrong categories , like incest or romance for example.

These are my reasons. I think they are reasonable as are my comments.

most people

we are what we are, most people have morals even if they read stories on this site. You are taught when you are young not to touch fire but curiosity lures you so you must be pretty simple if you can't see why you make most people sick with these stories, but in the end you came up with oh they must be closets cucks, why am i not surprised people who do sick things think every body is like them.

Lynn... that was very insightful

before I read your eassy I use to think that you were a unbeleiveably bad writer with a chip on her shoulder caused by her ex and that you were simply on a mission to make everyone;s else lifes miserable by writing the worst stories possible... stories that are so bad that by the time the reader gets to the end of your stories they say to themselves...

....." God damn sonofabitch I justed wasted 5 minutes of my life...."

I use to think that...

but after reading your essay I now realize that in the end you are Just a stupid cunt.

Thanks for clearing that up

harry

Haha!

I know I've done my job as a commenter when the author writes a blubbering "you guys are all terrible!" "essay" You might as well just puss the hell out like Just Plain Bob and go user comments only, because now that we know how thin skinned you are, it's only going to get worse for you.

Harry

I couldn't have said it better, thanks.

Missed number four

Four:
Those who start to read then stop when they realized how shitty the story is becoming.
Then they leave negative comments.
I stopped reading at your 'analysis', simply because of the above.
My MO is to read until the part about the husband being a wimp then skip to the end to see if he bothered to grow a pair.
As for comments... YMMV.

Ain’t it beautiful!

Even when their cuck fetishes are fully repressed, they are attracted to a cuck story like moths to a flame and their threatened, subconscious minds spew angry words, as involuntary as a wet dream. Laugh at them folks – it is applause for their subconscious. The louder they shout – the closer to their conscious minds their repressed fetishes are. She’s cucking them for you and they help her elevate cuckoldry to the level of a spectator sport, for your entertainment. Enjoy it.!

After reading your essay Lynn I have a question for you...

I think the previously mentioned #4 was painfully obivious. Some readers do not like cuck stories and dont read them unless they are slipped into the plot unannounced. How did you miss that option? Is it possible that you were looking for all of the Repressed Desire options to justify the anger you find if you slip in a cuck sequence into a story? I neither condone nor practice the personal attacks that some readers employ but I understand the resentment felt when a writer slips that into a story. If you want to write a cuck story thats fine as I am sure it appeals to some people but just let us know. If you do and you find anger you have your answer. Mike in Missouri

The main problem is Literotica categories

Here's a fourth theory: the problem is how Literotica classifies stories. Most categories are pretty clear: incest, interracial, and so on. Yes, there is the kind of person who goes to a clearly marked incest story and then complains about it because it contains incest, and the like with other categories, but that is rare. But with Loving Wives stories, there are two main types that are almost the opposite in nature, and it is often hard to know what you're going to get. In one type, someone cheats, the spouse finds out, and then there's trouble. Sometimes the couple patches things up and sometimes they divorce, but the cheating always is seen as a problem. And then there's the cuckolding stories, where there is arousal and often approval of the cheating. These are totally opposite kinds of stories, and it's very rare to see any blend of the two. There really needs to be two separate categories: Cheating and Cuckolding. Until that happens, there will be too many people hoping to find a cheating story only to find it's a cuckolding one and getting upset, or vice versa. As an analogy, imagine if there was no separate Incest category, and those stories were just scattered in with other categories like Erotic Couples and Romance, and so forth, and imagine how many more upset readers there would be. The idea that the complainers are all repressed homosexuals and wanna-be cuckolds is just more male bashing. If Literotica isn't going to fix the problem, then people who write cuckolding stories should preface their stories with a disclaimer: "This is a cuckolding story. If you don't like that kind of thing, please pick a different story now!" Some authors already do that. It would be great if more would.

Hmmm

That's a lot of analysis Lynngks, personally I get irritated that cuck writers portray weak husbands in weak light of epic proportions.... Too far afield in the realm of fantasy. Real guys like me get irritated at the complete lack of male response in a character such as Bobby in your series, love for his wife couldn't make a typical guy that weak ... Thank you for sword weilding heman who castrated mr. Big dick. For me, could a real guy be turned victim by a lover, could he tolerate a tryst because he is better off with her sure, but us guys want to see our husband regain his feet, pride and get redemption and or revenge as the husband is one of us, we must come out of thisto the better. Anything less is A wrong ending in our eyes. No I am not a repressed closet bi sexual homo. Your writing is quite good by the way, but some stuff from other authors ...... That is where the repressed homosexuals are, behind the pen.

You cross the line!

It is no surprise you get negative comments, Lynn. Once you cross the line into true cuckolding, as so many of your other commenters have pointed out, you enter the realm of fear and unadmitted desire for many men.

My own stories revolve around a couple trying to make sense of their sexuality. The theme leans only slightly toward cuckolding and even that was enough to send many commenters over the edge. I delete some comments, but only the ones that are extremely rude or vulgar. I do that simply because I don't want such trash associated with the stories I worked so hard to write. Yet, even vulgar comments are better than no comments at all. At the very least I know I have evoked a response in my readers.

I had not read any of your stories before today, but before I commented on your essay I did so. Your writing is as good or better than most out here and I enjoyed the way you portrayed your characters thoughts. You delve deeper into some areas that are not a turn on for me, but the plots and characters are intruiging none-the-less. Nice work!!

A few more considerations

Well written essay. I usually don't like cuckold stories because (1) they are usually formulaic and no different than the thousands of other cuck stories already on the site, (2) they usually involve disrespect of the man, (3) there's usually little or no love displayed by the wife, (4) I have raised children in the aftermath of a divorce caused or aggravated by infidelity - IRL I did not put up with my ex's cheating and my children and I paid the price for this. The test for a cuckold story for me is, can you reverse the sexes in the roles and have a credible story? Darcysweet and I tested this with one of her stories, and her story worked when reversed. I think it is all about mutual respect (or lack thereof). For example, "The Bought Husband" by JPB works because (1) it is clever and well written, (2) the characters in the story never give up their dignity, and (3) like Darcy's story, it could be credibly reversed.

I agree mostly with HDK.

my personal view on cuck stories are..
1. if it is a cheating wife story, I really look for the emotion of the story. Often do not care about the outcome because it is the writer's story. I take it was it was written. If the story was told well, I will like it.
2. If it is a story were the wife cheats, boyfriend stays over, wife has no respect and husband is humiliated and masturbates. I just get stop reading.
3. An excepting is stories by Good Husband. Still not my cup of tea, but there the Wives did respect their husbands. It was agreed that this is what both liked. Almost kind of sweet.
4. There are stories where the husband is in full controls, but lets his wife have sex with others. Again I stop reading these, but have no problem.
Conclusion - I can not understand why someone would like 2 or 3, but so be it. I cannot handle 4 myself, must have real self confidence. But for others..have at it. This is a free site, so I take what I can get out of it and be thankful for that.

My experience

I vicariously relate to the husband. The stories that anger me are the ones where the husband is disrespected and "mistreated" or abused by the wife. I half expect the assholes who do the "cucking" to be disrespectful, as it is part of the need of people who need to fuck other peoples spouses.

I also vicariously experience the pain the cuckholded husband feels. If he is forced to feel shame and/or pain, I experience anger.

I haven't read past the first paragraphs of the story but wanted to relate my experience -- as if anybody gave a shit.

I Like To See

people question behavior. Their own as well as others. I can't really say I've read any of your stories, unless you consider this a story. I can't say I care much for your assessment of the behavior of your male readers if in fact they are male, but then I'm one of those physiological behaviorist. I can't speak for all your readers (especially Harry) but I classify cuckold stories into two categories, willing and unwilling. I don't read willing cuckold stories. They don't disturb me I just don't care for them, much in the same way you don't care for bondage stories. Unwilling cuckold stories are about trust. For me a more sacred trust than trust between siblings or with your parents. It's about history, that's why I like the perpetrator to get caught and have to deal with the consequences. Whether they get back together or not is immaterial as long as it's well written and the plot is half way concievable. So, in that regards your title is pretty accurate. Maybe sad or hurt cucks would be more appropriate since "Pain breeds aggression", Dr Ulrich, 1962. I believe the same way as you when it comes to unwilling cuckolds being a fetish. It's simply learned. Given a persons' history of experiences allows the character of some to become excited when watching their wives having sex with others. I'm not only suggesting an overt experience like their parents engaged in that behavior so they find no malice with it. It could be a combination of subtle experiences both punishing and rewarding accompanied by their corresponding hormonal responses that could make one susceptible to willing cuckoldery. The reasons are many. Of course, your Sin Theory is nonsense, at least in my opinion. Behavior is not good or bad it just is. Society determines whether behavior is appropriate or not. What was appropriate centuries ago is not now. Who can say what will be appropriate in 100 years. It also varies from culture to culture. There are still places that it is OK to excute an unfaithful wife. I don't think that's right but they do. In fact, they would probably admire the man that would make such a sacrifice just to do what was right. Like shooting your favorite hunting dog because she bit you. Don't even get me started on religion, I mean "Man Made Laws on How to Worship God". Then there's your assumtion about readers of Literotica. You elude that readers of Literotica and righteousness are mutually exclusive. That's like saying people that go to church don't sin but I digress All this stuff about repressed homosexual desires is pretty shallow thinking, also. That would be like me, as a behaviorist, saying that all gays are the way they are because sexual stimulation feels good no matter what gender is providing it. After awhile the person becomes conditioned to associate the sexual pleasure with same sex partners. The difference between a gay and a bi person is that the gay person associates some real or concieved aversion towards the opposite gender. The aversion may even be as subtle as societal pressure to get married and raise a family, hetrosexually speaking. As to why some readers respond so violently to your stories is a very interesting question. In the first, place I have found that most people don't have a clue when it comes to behavior, especially their own. Most just get a physiological reaction from your stories and don't even bother to wonder why and being in an anonymous setting just write obscene responses because there are no consequences for doing so. Obviously, not even any internal ones (respect for others and other abstract covert behavior learned by the more advanced members of the species). And you are probably correct in assuming that there are some incredibly naive people that think their obscene comments are punishing to you and you will eventually stop. A very good example that people don't have a clue as to why they do what they do. For all they know you love obscene language but if you did I doubt you would write this piece. Well, that's my two cents. My next patient is here. She thinks that wanting to have sex with others besides her husband makes her crazy. She's even started attending church three times a week because her Priest suggested she do so. I'm surpised he didn't suggest an exorcism. This is going to be one of those longterm patients. First I have to undo most of what she was taught as a child before I can start her on a path of self-assuredness and confidence. Thank God for parents that no nothing about behavior. They are making me rich. Remember, if it feels good, Watch Out.

Food for thought!

At one stage, in English history, the highest crime in the land was treason while the second was petty treason which covered, among other things a wife killing her husband or a subordinate having sex with the superior’s wife or daughter. Is it any wonder that, even in today’s more permissive society, the stigma of such crimes remains?

Cuckoldry will be a thing of the past once the institution of marriage is completely destroyed and present trends make that very possible. Some will fight nobly to preserve marriage and thus, in doing so, will allow wives to still make cuckolds out of their husbands. Each coin has a flip side as do life’s little ironies.


Regards

Yeah right!

It is interesting that you say you don't like bondage stories. Most cuck stories are borderline if not outright BDSM stories. They involve the physical and mental degradation and humiliation of another person. What is the difference between a submissive sex slave in a BDSM story and a submissive husband in a cuck story? In my opinion, not much. In one type of story they are usually male and in another they are mostly female. So I would say it depends on which sex the reader is as to what story they might prefer except that my guess is a lot of the writers of cuck stories are homosexual males as a lot of them end up with the husband handling the lover's equipment if not out and out having sex with him. Gee, maybe that's why you spent so much of your essay on discrimination against "gays"? So why do I read cuck stories if I don't like them? Well I don't read many. Usually because I am bored and there aren't any of the type Loving Wives I do like posted. Unfortunately for my taste, there seem to be a lot more cuck stories in this category than the type of story that HDK,slirpuff, DanielQSteele or others write. And of course there is the forlorn hope that the husband will finally come to his senses and realize that humiliation is really not healthy for him or anyone else.

duel theories

I always wonder why its so much better taken if the husband is with someone else than if the wife does so. Being a bi-fem who has seen abit on husbands looking for on side or wifes why its ok for a guy to take a lover on the side but not the wife if she needs more sex?

It's a manhood thing!

It goes both ways, the disrespect of a spouse makes me emotionally angry. The idea of the cheat, the deceptive reasoning leading to one betraying another repulses me. If I read a cuckold story, and I have, I'm just hoping the guy is going to man up and somehow find a bit of retribution on the cheaters when he finds out. It doesn't need to be physical but somehow the cheat needs to feel similar pain and loss.

In most of the stories involving this it is the male it happens to. Its my opinion that if a man has something taken from him, his wife's respect, her fidelity, the trust, to somehow think this situation would be a turn on, an aphrodisiac, well it just doesn't add up or compute! I think this is crap a justification for some controlling bitch to cheat.

I don't know where the concept that a man would be willing to let someone fuck his wife, not let him, and somehow this control isn't really cheating.

I'm not afraid of some suppressed cuckold fetish or feel some threat to my manhood. This concept of someone wanting this is just foreign to me. The anger in me comes from the disrespect and theft. For someone to get away with it is even more angering. Doing this to a man is in no way love. If they don't love them what the hell are they with them for?

If done to me, they've lost me! (Just my opinion)

My Opinion.

Those who become angry and post vicious comments are typically those who very likely have been pained at one time or another.
I have dealt with males that suffer from performance concerns as a result, there can be a feeling of lack of self worth, that can overwhelm reason.
It is not always the male.
It can often end sadly in violence, we see it on the news daily.
For others, being cuckolded offers a feeling of power and control, yet this can demonstrate both ways. The power comes from allowing. It is extremely difficult to understand how allowing, or knowledge and acceptance of being cuckolded is also a feeling of power, yet it can be.
Thus we often see the male encourage, or even the female encourage although much more rarely.
Those who prefer the dominance, humiliation are sometimes powerful men on the outside and in their daily lives.
Sex is a monstrous human urge, so is power and the need for control. There is little difference between those emotions. Often giving up that powerful need for control offers a moment of peace.
Thus the urge to control can even appear as an acceptance of humiliation.
One interesting thought might be that those most outraged and vocal on the subject are simply ones with similar urges, that are suppressed by upbringing and society.
My first mate went into rage at my denial of his wishes and nearly made me into a statistic, my second mate has softer underlying urges that I do my best to please.
It helps to keep the peace. Difficult subject, with a myriad of possibles.
Thank you.

The other side of the coin - cuckqueen

My girl really likes the opposite of the usual cuck stories. Ones where she gets to watch me enjoy another beautiful woman, while she is kneeling by our bed (or chained in the corner).

It is the denial or delay of her own pleasure that really gets to her. I simply enjoy two things: watching her squirm and beg when that aroused, and the lovely guest in our bed. Yes my girl leaves a puddle, because she's that turned on.

Internet superhero.

This type of place allows someone to become that big man so full of machismo that they are so far removed from in daily life. A mild mannered guy can come in here, see the injustice done to the male character and demand in a show of solidarity that wrongs be righted. Or, if it's a bad day he can lambaste the guy and call him every name under the sun, the kindest of them being wimp, because "If anyone did that to me I'd..." . And the reader can wield all of this power from his Fortress Of Anonymity, safe from all recrimination but 'moderation' from the author. That sets of a whole different set of reactions, not going there.

Thanks for your thoughtful essay

It's a shame, but revealing I guess, that even this submission (which in no way valorizes the idea of cuckoldry, but merely raises questions about it) led to so many furious, emotionally heated rants (Harry in Va's being typical both of him and of the genre--the man simply appears not to have an "off" switch for his feelings).

My own take is that cuckolding stories frighten some readers--because it might happen to them, because they secretly both fear and desire it, because humiliation is an issue for them in one way or another.

And, of course, the anonymity available to commenters means that they can spew venom without having to take responsibility for it--one of the down sides of our Internet culture.

I hope you'll keep writing, and shrug off the hate mail (some of which I get at times as well). I think your stories are thoughtful and engaging, sometimes very powerful. At times I personally truly hate what your wives do to their husbands--my anger and pain is visceral and powerful--but to me that testifies to how well you write.

Most readers, I hope, understand that authors are NOT their characters, that they are fictional creations. But clearly some readers forget this....

Thanks for your stories--ohio

nail

Frankly, I think you hit the nail on the head when you talk about the guys who hate cuck stories so much. They are simply afraid of their own impulses and urges. Secretly, they want to be there, they want to be the one to have the nerve to experience it but the fear of being a "homo" or less than macho is too much for them to handle.

Over my life time, I have heard many, many men bash gays and then a few years later, they finally come out of the closet themselves.... certainly a pattern and an argument for "those who yell loudest' are the most worried about their secret desires.

Interesting the comment that was written about cuckoldry being abusive to wives, when in fact, the wife is voluntarily joining into the lifestyle. What I find offensive are the guys who betray their wives or girlfriends by taking covert photos (sleeping, undressing, etc.) of them and, without their knowledge, posting them all over the internet. That, to me, speaks volumes about a person's character, violating a trust of a spouse or loved one.

people who like to hurt others are sick

why would a wife,who love her hubby want to hurt him in that manner.there mental issues on both sides.

It is a combo of reasons

As usual, its a bunch of factors IMHO.

1. I see more of these stories on Lit. lately and it gets boring but seems to generate readership (duh, controversy sex sells). I still read many because I find them either amusing in their outright absurdity or compelling stories about love/betrayal etc..

2. I know I bristle at many of these stories because they are part and parcel of western societies constant bashing of men (and their sexuality) these days in media. Fantasy or not, a man who engages in this type of action is likely dooming himself to slavery in the real world. There are plenty of men who have no interest in the fetish but the state damn near makes it happen anyway in divorce.

3. Some are the "deniers in the closet" types I'm sure but this is a far overplayed meme in our society.

4. Cuckolding to men is generally equal to how women view rape/serial abuse. IMHO, it is the absolute worst betrayal a woman can do to a man in a relationship. So its a major taboo and that helps make it "hotter" or tantalizing to some and enrages many others. Seems pretty obvious to me.

Hexxed

Wrong Wrong Wrong!

I have just about tried everything, a lot of things more than once. Three ways, group, a couple of gangbangs, which no author on here has cause they are just nasty and the woman a real slut to do it, even had a guy suck my dick, but it turned me off. But a willing cockold as written about on lit is just pathic, no body is threatend, just turned off. Any man with normal testerone finds it offensive, what is so hard to understand about that?

Just some thoughts

I have wondered some of the same questions, LynnGKS, when I read repeatedly identical comments from the same readers about disparate stories. As reader, my style is rather childishly simple, if I don't care for a story I stop reading and go on to another or something else. I don't finish, I don't vote, I don't comment, I just pick up my pail and leave the sandbox.

I have posted two stories here on Lit, one a lengthy novella and the other a short vignette, and both deal with a wife who has one or more outside of marriage lovers. In line with a firm personal belief in free speech and non-censorship, I did not delete any negative comments. Some were substantive and helpful, many were just inane. The ones I found most puzzeling were those who claimed they saw my name, skipped the story, and went straight to the comments section to tell me I must be gay, a wimp, a low-life moron or whatever. All of that is discernible from a story title?

There is a tendency in many comments to Loving Wives stories that supports a point of view I find personally repugnant, that is the implied ownership of a wife by husband as a cultural norm. I don't believe in that sort of relationship in literature and I don't care for it in real life. Unfortunately, I think many guys do believe just that sort of servitude is morally and culturally correct. It is even more unfortunate that many women seem to accept that viewpoint.

I am not sure I have added to your discussion, but I am glad you raised the point. There is one thing that really should be considered and that is the definition of the word cuckold. It is really quite simple: A man with an unfaithful wife. Period, no more, no less, no substitutions. There is no why, how many, with whom, or any role for the husband; like so many things it is up to the woman.

I think you are wrone and also to nail on the head..

I always attack the writers of the wimp/humility slut wife stories. For the most part they are the mastubatory fantasies of some wimp writer. So your theory is full of holes about repressed homosexuality ect. It is an attack on my intelligence to suggest otherwise. It angers me that Lit publishes the jerkoff stories of humility writers and try to pass them off as real. If you really had a degree in psyche as you suggest you would know that most theories are sticky ,smelly stuff.

Flaming Bags of Poo!

You and your friends/associates must be consuming the same diet, after all, your collective thoughts bear a myopically similar self-serving perspective, eliminating far too many other possibilities. So characteristic, eh, can't possibly see where you're going with your head shoved so far up your own arse. Just remember, should your door bell ring, and you come to find a burning paper bag on your stoop, try to resist your intial urge to stamp it out.

Five Star All The Way

The answer is simple. This is a collection of idiots who have no better way to spend their time. As far as their comments go I've deleted comments as they were posted because I do not believe in dignifying comments from people who do nothing but leave deragatory and abusive comments and have never written. This is the only way they can bully people and get away with it. The only deragatory comments I have ever left up were all the comments on my own essay, Loving Wives: Is Meant To Be Ironic, so that they could stand as a testament to ignorance. All my other thoughts on the subject can be found there.

- Master Vyle

Theory number # 5....(and Harry was wrong....

...you're just a hypocrite,don't like bondage my ass)- why do people look at an accident on the highway??????That covers the range of reasons people might read those stories, certainly not all of them like "train wrecks" but they are seductive. Just think how few people would read these sad tales if it were just the "fans".

Great

I loved this post. I have noticed the same thing with religion in my stories. As soon as you say the character doesn't believe in god all hell breaks loose. I just delete the comments because I don't want to give the loonies a platform to shout from. The question is, if you're so pure and godly what are you doing reading erotic stories? Shouldn't you be at church praying for your soul or something?

The thing that is disturbing though is that my characters are basically 'good' people as defined by the bible. They form monogamous relationships and live responsibly and with sensitivity to the people around them, but in the minds of a lot of readers that is all negated by the fact that they don't believe in god. It doesn't say much for the kindness and tolerance that these people supposedly learn from their religion.

Cuck madness

Just as their are many types of cuckold stories there many reasons why someone would like or dislike these stories. If a person has an issue with cuckold in general move on to the type that you enjoy.

Maybe there is an issue with a female writer of these stories. Also don't assume to much about the reasons people like a story its to complicated.

In a Cuckold story there are the cuckold, the hot wife, and other man. I choose to identify more with the other man then the cuckold and enjoy the stories from that perspective.

nail on the head

Your article was interesting and the responses more so. I think it's sad that even to attempt to open a serious discussion of the topic has been met with such anger. Specifically, it's a shame that two of the more vocal and well sorry, but I can't quite use the term "eloquent" posters, at least when it comes to discussing the motives of main characters and also the authors of certain stories in this genre, Harry and Pete, have so little to say concerning their own motives for reading stories that they know going in they are going to hate.

Harry refused to examine any of the issues you have posed and instead used the fallacy of an ad hominem attack as his only feedback. And Pete, your analogy was false, reading one of these stories is not like glancing over at a train wreck. If a train wreck is your chosen imagery, then it would be like getting out of your car and walking over to the site of the accident. And then examining in detail the broken and bleeding bodies of the victims while they are still moaning in pain. In other words, It's not the sort of thing a sane person would do.

And so, since I haven't really read any responses so far that come close to explaining a stark contradiction, and since you two usually do seem to able to put forth at least nearly intelligent arguments, I'd really like to ask you both again, what I consider to be the most interesting question posed by this author. Leaving aside the stories where you don't suspect cuckolding is going to be a theme, why do you guys still read these stories? For example, Lynn and Bobbie are now in Chapter 10 how do you explain even to yourself that you are still reading it if you truly hate stories about cuckolding?

Wow talk about attacking comments.

I have read all comments up til now and see a variety of responses. There are those manly men who talk about disrespect and violation of trust, then there are the individuals who intellectulize the entire human response.

The manly men as they call themselves have huge issues with a significant other seeking other avenues of having needs met. Those needs have appearently been overlooked, ignored or outright dismissed as inferior to the man's own needs. That is a problem!

I pose a question, why is it okay for a man to go to a bar or stripclub, pickup someone and get blowjobs, handjobs and the like but not consider it cheating? On the same course why is it so problematic for a woman to do similar things and be labeled a slut, whore or a man-hating bitch that cheats? Why do womens needs mean so much less than mens needs?

Lets be absolutly honest here, if someones needs are not being met inside of a relationship there will be straying. This straying does NOT just occur to one gender; all are created equally. It is part of being human that makes us all want to be desired and made to feel sexy. This response reinforces a bond between two partners. If this response is not present then one partner will seek others to form a connection, even if only for that moment.

I would have to say that if an individual has a very instense response to this idea of cuckold then maybe they need to explore why it causes the reaction it does. The response of it is immoral and degrading are cop-outs because you are unwilling to really look at your own emotional, behavioral contributions to a significant other having their needs met elsewhere. There may also be some guilt of behaviors no one caught them at. It is NOT unusual for a cheater to project their behaviors onto their significant other in order to feel justified by their own behavior.

Does tend to make one think. Great essay! Keep up the good work:)
~~Sara

Theories of reaction to cuckold stories

Nice discussion to start.
There are certainly people that have a lot of vitriol to spray. I can somewhat accept that being expressed about a story although I question what value it has to get so angry. However it has no value, IMO, to go after an author personally. I may not know what a story is going to be about but I sure know how authors write after reading their stories. If you don't like their work, skip it.
Your second point was about criticizing sin. I would argue that while some commenters might be in that specific category, more people would be fighting injustice. When a woman is abusing a man or taking advantage of his fetishes AGAINST HIS WILL I have a problem with the story. In these cases the woman is just being cruel. There is no real love in the relationship. I want justice for the character. If their is actually a loving relationship the woman is doing things FOR her husband even if on the surface they might seem cruel. This is true about BDSM stories as well. A good writer makes this obvious. A woman who just starts pushing her husband around and emotionally and physically abusing him just cries out to have her ass kicked. Just like a guy who abuses his wife needs some comeuppance. It's justice. The bad guy shouldn't win.
Third, what if you don't like cuckold stories? Can't you just avoid them? I agree with others that state that the loving wives category is a collection of polar opposite stories and it is often hard to know what you are going too get. After committing time to reading a story you feel you should rate and comment on it. That is valid for a reader to do. I don't expect you to stop writing cuck stories because I criticize but I still have the right to criticize. I try to be respectful and stick to discussion of the story.
I happily admit that cuck stories are not my cup of tea and I have no empathy for a man who wants to be cuckolded. But if that's what a character wants, more power to him and the author. I am not seeking out these stories but find it hard not to trip over them in this category.

Interesting Analysis

Like you with bondage stories I also try not to read cuckold stories. Sometime I end up reading one before I come to the conclusion that it will end up a cuckold story. But I’m not going to slam the author. It’s my fault for reading it. I really appreciate the authors that warn me at the start that theirs is a cuckold story. While you’re probably correct with some of your analysis I don’t feel any fit me personally. The first two I avoid and the third definitely is not me. My grandfather was a 20 year Marine and I spent a great deal of my youth with him. He was retired and took me everywhere with him. He also instilled his values in me….honor, commitment, loyalty, etc. If everyone was like me lawyers would be out of work. My word is my bond. I have little respect for willing cuckolds. I feel they disrespect themselves as well as their wives. If you want to fuck around don’t get married. The wives that make their husbands unwilling or unbeknownst cuckolds really piss me off. My first wife did this to me and rest assured I don’t find it appealing in any shape or form. What she did shattered my core beliefs. Yes, I find cheating wives stories, TV shows, movies, etc. interesting for some reason but not because of a repression of a cuckold fetish. Probably because I’ve been there, done that. I’m also a revenge type guy. You wrong me and you’ll pay the price. My first wife and “lover” discovered that the hard way. This has gotten longer than I want so I'll stop here. You’re a good writer from the little bit I have read of yours. Unfortunately I just don’t like your themes.

I'll go with theory 3

There are a lot of (male) consumers of erotica who aren't actually interested in erotica so much as simple porn. They dislike stories which involve women wielding any sort of power or making any sort of decision. Their hostility is therefore mostly expressed in reaction to cuckold stories, pegging stories and other femdom stories. These are the stories which I most often see with moronic negative comments on them - I don't read Gay Male stories, so can't assess the comments on them.
Of course, culturally and historically female infidelity is viewed more seriously then male infidelity, and it's clear that the negative comments on cuckold stories told from the POV of the cuckold are significantly different from most other negative comments. I've never seen a negative comment on a story about a male being unfaithful singling out that aspect of the story for criticism. I suspect that cuckold stories tap into precisely the same male insecurities that lie at the root of homophobia, and many cuckold fetishes may involve a degree of transference.

Why I'm not angry

There've been so many girls in my time. Statistically something somewhere had to go wrong. Wife 2 burned me. Scarred bad by a woman I loved. I walked away, healed, found wife 3. My beautiful Blue. Nine years now. Wife 2 is a fat useless unhappy cunt(but still the mother of the boys)and I've found myself a place in the sun. But still, all those easy spat words of wimp and cuck have a major resonance. They offend me when they're used out of context. But like someone says, the train wreck theory is a seriously good analogy. But how many of us are stopped and staring, and how many lying screaming in the twisted wreckage? Thanks Lynn...Mancelt.

Most people write stories that they themselves like. When they post it perhaps they hope someone else will like it too. Most authors also like feedback. I know I do.

The trick is, I think and as others have mentioned, identifying what kind of story that you are reading.

Sometimes an author wants to introduce a twist. This kind of thing is a gamble. Some will like it, others won't.

Sometimes it's just sneaky. That's mean and basically a misepresentation. That tends to offend.

Now, assuming that the reader knew what he was reading when he went into it, read through the whole thing and got angry when what he or she knew would happen actually happenned... well, they're dummies! Heh. Flip answer aside, I think this: Some people are most comfortable when angry. They understand anger. Anger is intense and has value to them. However, staying angry is just unhealthy. So...they unleash their anger on the author. Their anger subsides and they feel better. Then, later, they crave that anger again...or perhaps they just crave the unleashing of it. If they are angry people to begin with then maybe raging is cathartic. They let some water out of the dam and pressure is released, saving the structure and/or controlling how much overflows.

In any case if you do not like angry, venemous responses you don't have to read them! :P