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Was she sorry?
I felt as though she just said it because that's what she knew he husband needed to hear. The reason I felt it was because I couldn't see to much of her perspective, though at the same time I really enjoyed reading from the perspective of the psychologist.
Sucked!
As I recollect the original story sucked too. So what was your point?
question
Would she still be having an affair with him. she answered the question..
It would be a better story.........
If the husband pulled out a long knife during the session and stabbed the evil whore wife to death and then cut her fucking head off. :)
Ennui
I am not sure how much your version added to the original story, Lynn. You have forced the wife to admit that the drudgery that makes up a lot of family life during the development and early child rearing phase caused her to go looking for excitement. The original story didn't have that element; the notion that wife looked for something exciting and found that something in a lover.
My recollection is the relationship with Tim(?) truely "just happened" and grew into a love affair. When lover moved across country the affair became special because of the separation that made their physical time together so infrequent they had to fertilize it with erotic love correspondence. I would have loved to see you explore that aspect from the woman point of view. How does writing or receiving a letter from a special lover prolong the delicacy of a forbidden romance?
I understand that the romance is "forbidden" by custom and convention even though I think outside lovers adds so much to the rounding of each half of a long term and successfully married man and woman. That's just my take on things from a guy who was married more than thirty years and divorced now more than a dozen.
While I have to admit its an different take seeing it from the female prespective...
I have to say I wasn't too fond of this telling of the story either.
What you did, at least from what I saw, was break it down into three basic parts:
- The wife was bored and needed excitement in her life
- The husband ego was bruised and hurt and he was just jealous of what she did with someone else.
- Long as the wife didn't actually "love" her other sexual partner and new lover, then this really isn't a big hurdle for them to get over.
If you break it down like that then, at least to me, it seems like the husband was making a bigger deal out of her affair than the therapist thought he should have made. Long as she really didn't love the other man then her affair really threatened nothing.
But I completely disagree.
Cheating isn't that simple. It doesn't collapse into such neat black and white settings. It not something, like eating a sandwich, where as long as once your caught and your sorry then the real healing begins because in the end it doesn't really harm anyone to spice up a boring lifestyle.
And in this case your story makes the husband look like an ass (to me) for not getting over her cheating and going on with their lives. That might not be what you intended (or it might I can't speak for you) but that's how I saw it.
Cheating has "real" consequences, from unintended pregnancies between lovers and not marriage mates, spreading of diseases to a spouse who thought they were in a "safe" relationship an no longer needed to worry about things like that, to a complete break down of trust.
Life is hard enough without having to worry if your spouse is going to trade up because they are out giving free test drives to everyone who catches their eyes with requiring the same commitments you need to give them or the same pressures of life (bills, kids, mortgage, etc) you have to put up with as well to get their interest and time.
And I felt here that was swept under the carpet for the sake of making the husband see this wasn't that big a deal, once he could get past the horrors "he" created for himself in his mind.
But at the end I have to ask myself: Did I really like how you portrayed a wronged spouse in your story, who's mate took a lover, as being whiny and spoiled, someone who was ruining a good realtionship (I gather you felt) over images that he should have let go of because the wife said she was sorry and her lover was no longer in the picture?
And then I have to say: "No I really didn't." =(
-Risq
Added a lot to the original
Im not sure what stories people are reading, but its crazy to say this one didnt change/add much. Its a totally different outcome now. I was very unsatisfied with the original for the same reasons this author seems to be. In the original, I kept waiting for the husband to wake up and was disappointed with the ending which left me feeling the husband was more wronged than ever. Now I can hope they stay together and be happy for them if they do.
I thought this was a much better ending and Im glad the author wrote it.
sorry Lynn all this proves is that you are a stupid cow
You never have the therapist a supposedly educated intelligent person put 2 and 2 together.
I mean WHY would you? you have a pussy and serious man hating agenda .
When the wife says well it is just laughable....
"But when I said I'd never have left you. I loved you. I loved our son. That's the truth. You have no reason to believe me but I hope you do."
this is not remotely close to the truth. The therapist asks her why SHE kept the letters but never challenges the wife on her answer which is an obvious self evdient lie.
The wife kept the letters to remind herself that she had a SEPERATE life away from the kids and her husband.
she HATED the routine.
she HATED being a mother.
she HATED being a wife.
then cunt whore wife says she Loved her husband and son.
Marriage is getting older together. It IS sometimes routine. if you cant do accept and the wife clearly cannot she she STILL does NOT see what the isuse ---
than dont be married
I didn't get the last line
whereas if it had read "Mr and Mrs Bill Maitland" I would have thought it very clever. The Wilsons? Maybe I missed the point...Mancelt.
Just Reinforced The Idea
She had a cheap 3 year suck and fuck with a married playboy, husband got fucked over, short changed, cheated and lied to for years. His marriage is a sham and he should move on by himself, at least for a while and see what is out there, not settle for a chubby slut.
Forgiveness? from the husband?
Unlikely, but who knows stranger things have happened. I am not sure which ending was better, probably on a par at least for me.
OMG!!
I can't stop laughing at BNB's comment!!!
Dude , you are hilarious!!
How the hell did it "just happen" and then you want him to right about the romance of the affair? It would be a VERY borring romantic tale if it had "just happened" , don't you think? Honestly , you sound like you are 14 , not over 60
three years
three years she did it, well i can tell you they had no marriage. She was a selfish person who deserves nothing and most of all not her husband or her sons love. Anyway what would expect from this author who has the morals of a snake.
Nice take
Having read both stories, this one does put a better sense of finality on the tale. Overall, I liked it, but am not going to get into a deep analysis of a work of fiction about another work of fiction.
I'm really upset about this ....
You are a good writer in the classic cuckold genre but I really have to question your ethics on even writing this story.
Did you get the permission of the original author?
You have not given the original author credit or referred to his story which you should do if you are writing a directly related story based on circumstances somebody else created.
I think it is unethical for you to write this story without express permission from the original author and to write it without directly referring to the story it is taken from and giving credit to the author is very poor form.
As for the story it offered a view ...but was poorly written (by your own standards ...you can do much better then this).
The real question was not answered
Why did she hate her husband so much to do it in the first place. All of life is boring to some degree, do we have a woman here so mentally ill she cant understand to make her marriage more lively, she had to be more lively in it? Three year affair, and three years a husband with no wife, divorce the bitch and find a younger woman who loves you.......... In other words, out of pure boredom on the husband, recycle the wife.
is this better ??
I don't think so. What I see is a selfish cheating wife and an equal cheating lover; I wouldn't think of staying with her. And the reasons she gave, the woreshipping of her dirty affair, even until the end, and than just confess it was all out of boredom, cause she wanted to feel young and single. Pathetic. Not to mention the stance of the counsellor who, apparently, thought this would be OK. Bullshit. It will never be OK, never be the same.
Pathetic
Didn't have the balls to have him dump her huh? LOL
She saw the light way too quickly, it should have taken much longer.
Incomplete...
It was interesting but incomplete. Many stores do well when they leave the future to the imagination of the readers, yours still left too much unsaid, too little direction. It was not a bad story and overall well written, but it needed more.
Kick the SLUT to the CURB!
Sorry! Don't buy this crap! She was a cheating slut who got caught, She's sorry because he found out. She has no respect for her husband or marriage. How many other times has she gotten bored? She has ZERO creditability!
IT's over! Period.
Bull shit by any other odor is still bull shit!
A slut is still a slut. No honest husband would abide such a worthless woman. There is no just conclusion for the husband to this sorry tale. Kick the bitch out before he gets a STD. Once a cheater always a cheater.
You think he
is not the complex person in this relaltionship? That's also the wife's attitudede. That's why as a counselor, your character fails in her job. SHe is far to sympathetic with the wife and does not understand the husband's pain at all. Your simplistic solution at the end may make you happy as a writer - you said you did not like the other stories conclusion - but for me it is the typical lack of understanding about his "feelings". Your conselor has an intellectual understanding of him, but that is all. She "feels" for the woman and empathizes. At no point is there a discussion of the lack of communication in the marriage BEFORE the affair. The wife does not discuss her feelings with her husband about the routine routine as you put it. Instead she unconsciously looks for an affair to recharge herself, but not her husband. You never have the wife say the magical words: I am selfish and my needs take precedence over my husband. Instead she lives this marriage as a lie. I actually think were I counseling them, I would tell the husband to separate for a time and ask himself does he want to live with a woman who does not communicate her feelings to him, that would probably have an affair again in the "right" circumstances and whom he has clearly not trusted all this time. Your counselor is almost dismissive of the husband. They have lived all this time together? Why? If he does love her still, those feelings are complex and she did little to support him as her "fascination" with the wife took over. In many ways, I think this reflects the way you see men in many of your stories and why there is that constant lack of reality when you write about men. You seem to have no trouble in your fantasies with the selfish wife and have developed some interesting rationalizations to explain their behavior, but in this case that weakness with male characters betrays your plot development. In fact you simplistic development of male characters maybe hints at a kind of dislike of men. Hmmmm?
Agree with anonymus - Incomplete!
This version of the story takes us from introduction of the problem through character development to the point of recognition of the problem, but completely ignores any attempt at resolution, be it reconciliation or divorce (and both are still possible). That is leaving way too much unattended to.
Cheating Slut!
The wife is a cheating slut and the husband is a spineless wimp for not kicking her worthless ass to the curb. Unfortunately there is no score less than 0.
I have to agree with Dr. Pope
The stories I've written are in a multi-writer "Universe" but you need to get permission from the "owner" of the universe to write a story that uses its cannon.
Even though you are not charging for your story, I do believe you have crossed ethical lines if you don't have permission.
Having said that, I find the "solution" here to be extreme shallow. "Sorry" doesn't make it all better. The husband has lost something very valuable, and something he thought he had. Simply being sorry that she spent thirty years being less than she should be... even if she now understands that she has been cheating her husband for thirty years, does what? Now that she see the damage, how can she make him whole? How has she changed to become a better wife from his perspective? All I see is that she can try to be what she was supposed to have been all along. How does she go the extra mile?
In real life there frequently isn't any justice. The old Ann Landers saw "Are you better off with our without the other" is sooooo shallow. For one thing you can never know if you will be better off without, for another there's more than one person involved. But this isn't real life and I want to see justice.
So, this story falls short on two levels. First, copyright, and second nothing is done for the husband other than an apology. I would like to see you get permission from the author then show us how the wife can make it better. Frankly, I don't see how she can... but then it's your story not mine.
I object...
to your remark about the limited options of 50 YO men! A man in his 50's who is even in half-decent shape, and who has a means of earning a living or is financially well off, has plenty of women available if he wants to pursue them — many of them 10 or even 15 years younger! To that extent, the problem that should really frighten the wife is that he will turn her in for a new model. It is the women in their 50's who would have trouble replacing old, boring, steady, stable hubby! So she better damn well be sorry about having the affair and be willing to go the extra mile to get the man she has over his pain.
PS
I was trying to remember who had done this same concept several years ago, and it was a story by ohio. I think he did a much better job showing the problems with the discovery of an old affair.
Long After the Fact Ch. 01
The authors CONSISTENT use/ insult that husband is simpleton IS intentional
and it shows LynnGKS's severe man hating bias.
Counselor viewpoint, poor counselor
I like what simple49er had to say. The counselor was not doing her job.. She is bored just like the wife and is searching for something more interesting, more complex. In doing this, just like the wife, she abandons the husband. Yes, she recognizes him as a patient (like wife "loves" him) but isn't giving him her focus (like wife pursues a lover).
It was interesting for the counselor to point out the blocking problem with the wife. She is completely blind to seeing that what she did was wrong. That is an essential first step to repentance and possible forgiveness. Of course to me this makes the wife rather brain dead. I think you go into relationships either believing you should remain faithfully monogamous or not. If you believe in being monogamous, even if you end up cheating, you realize you screwed up. Everything in the wife's background tells me she believed she should be monogamous. The couple are not swingers. She has had no other affairs. Except for the one lover, she has lived her life by the principle of monogamy. She seems to think because she was "in love" that she got a free pass. When she finally realizes she was just looking for excitement, her free pass disappears. Now she was just a whore, a label she wanted to avoid. Interesting self delusion to protect her self image.
Going back to the husband, his emotions are not complex but they are valid and STRONG! He was betrayed and deceived. His wife is unrepentant. He has invested his life in someone and now has nothing to show for it. She says she loves him but she also loved this other guy. Who knows who else she could find to love if the mood struck her. The husband is told he did nothing wrong so there is nothing for him to "fix" to make their relationship better and more reliable. All he can do is wait in dread that this will happen again if the mood strikes her. He has to walk around with the proverbial sword at his neck ready to strike. The counselor is bored with this, she has seen it before, old news. The counselor can't get the wife to recognize her ownership of the problem so she lets the husband stew. Even the wife's final recognition of the real problem is too little, too late. After 20 years she finally realizes she stuck a knife in his back. "Oops, sorry honey." And the counselor ships them off for a month like her job is done???? WTF?? Getting the wife to see her guilt was the OPENING step to reconciliation, if it is even possible. Effective counseling has just begun because they are finally dealing with the real truth of the situation. She was a selfish slut and stepped outside their marriage FOR 3 YEARS. It only ended because her lover got himself killed. She maintained a loving remembrance of the dead lover for 20 years. Finally she is realizing the truth of what she did. Can her husband live with all this? How does he deal with the issues and make a decision? Is their anything she can do to make this up to him? Is it possible to make it up to him? Too bad the counselor is a idiot. They have little chance of staying together anyway and with this counselor they have none.
Fails for the same reason as the original.
This story appears to be an alternative ending of "Statute of Limitations," which was recently posted in the Romance category. I gave my comment to Statute a lot of time before finally writing it, and when posted it boiled down to one major issue: The story failed because the wife's character remained static and reconciliation was forced where she still was completely clueless and unapologetic. Despite that glaring weakness, I was deeply impressed with the writing and other characterizations and emotions drawn out by that story.
This story fails because neither the husband nor the wife seems to get it. As a result, it is even less satisfying than the original story's ending. In the original, we at least felt the husband's pain; we just couldn't figure out why he'd reconcile where the wife was totally unapologetic. Here, we feel nothing. The husband here appears shallow throughout the story rather than just at the end. The wife also appears shallow and even more dense than in the original. None of her emotions or feelings are conveyed well, and the "Ta Da!" moment when she realizes the underlying factors that drove her affair actually plays out more as a "Well duh!" moment because she's so incredibly clueless as portrayed here.
The husband's shallowness is also beyond cliche. "There you go, she apologized and now knows it was wrong. Now go home and let her give you a nice little blowjob and it'll all be better." Okay, blowjobs may work on me, but I wouldn't be a very interesting character for a story. Neither is the husband here.
All told, what should have remedied a glaring defect in the original only expanded the chasm. Now we don't have one shallow character; we have two.
As the author stated, it's another look at a previously writen old situation
Firstly I think the story is very well writen and edited very nicely, but the story still didn't give any closure to the couples situation.
We still have been left to decide whether they will work out their problem or split up.
The husband has issues with her infidelity, but he also knows he has been living a lie for more than 20 years.
If her lover had lived, would she have stayed with her husband, or dumped him in order to be with the exciting sex partner, her lover? That's the blade that has been twisting in her husband back, and she just keeps twisting it.
hmm...
well at least it was better than the original story. because that was the problem, the wife was sorry hubby was in pain but not sorry for fucking him over and betraying him so terribly. she didnt know how long the affair would have lasted my ass! she would have kept them both until hubby found out.
TO aPeacefulPlaceTX: the problem with your analogy is that OHIO's story LONG AFTER THE FACDT also sucks Moose balls
dude Most of OHIO's stories are fucking dreadful -- not all but MOST-- and his story LONG AFTER THE FACT is a classic case.
In that stoy after losing an unborn baby the wife pulls away from the husband and has 2 month summer affair at school where she worked.
In the first 2 pages of chapter 1 ...OHIO has the wife ....her best friend and ....her therapist assert SEVERAL times that it was a good thing NOT to have confessed her affair to the husband.
and in every instance the reasoning was the same... to spare the Husband pain.
anyone with a fucking brain knows that is bullshit . For an author to write that a therapist actually thinks it is GOOD for wife to fix the marriage by using ANOTHER lie -- thru Omission -is LAUGHABLE.
even worse in that story is that the real truth never comes out. The wife's depression then her affair and funny behavior at home took away the husband's chance to grieve for the dead unborn baby.
THAT is why the wife never told her husband. S he was NOT in anyway interested in sparing him any pain.
Author Response
The story clearly indicates that the therapist has (at the end of the story) only gotten the couple in a position to BEGIN therapy after they percolate for a month. Therapy could not begin with the wife in denial (I did nothing wrong). Once she admits what she did was wrong - not innocently falling in love - then the therapist can begin work on helping the husband to heal and helping the wife pay her debt by helping her husband to heal. The "kick her to the curb" crowd may be right that in the end he cannot heal by staying with her or they may be wrong in that she will help him so much that he tries to stay a while with her. The excellent and touching story by Ohio gives one type of ending (her infidelity, of course, is mitigated by clinical depression) but in that story the wife was seduced while mentally ill - quite different from a wife unable to do what marriage demands that partners do, that is stick in there and work to keep the marriage going.
Infidelity by a wife presents an interesting story line and there are a number of good ones still unwritten. I'd like to see a story by some of the "kick her to the curb" people that followed what happens to the husband's life after he does exactly that (maybe adding a couple of kids to make it interesting).
Another important issue not well dealt with is that infidelity by the husband seems to be viewed differently by Society - and don't you shouters say I'm wrong. But why does society think it's different? I suspect that even women think it's different. I plan to do a think-piece on that when I get back from a vacation in France. The bottom line on that may be that there is never any doubt who a child's mother is, but the question of the father has always been in doubt and perhaps this has led society to evolve stronger standards of behavior on women.
Lynn
another dumb fuck post from the cunt with chip on her shoulder
lynn the whacko wrote
Another important issue not well dealt with is that infidelity by the husband seems to be viewed differently by Society - and don't you shouters say I'm wrong. But why does society think it's different?
Bill clintom impeached over a sexual affair.... almost never got elected in 1992 of another
John Edwards.,... who cheated a brillanrt sick with cancer wife and is now universally hated.
Gary hart forced to drop out in 1988 when he was odds on favorite to be the next POTUS
Gov sanford of SC
new Gingrich
Ted Kennedy whose negligence killed a woman in 1972
and on and on and on....
yet LynnGKS actually argues that with men husbands cheating society gives them a PASS or there is some sort of double standard
folks if that comment does not prove LynnGKS is a fucking whacko nothing will
O.K.
In the story this is based on I agreed that the husband should not kick her to the curb. Even though I had some serious problems with what she did years earlier. But her loyalty to the husband over the years since her lover died convinced me that he should keep her.
I tend to agree with Lynn on how society views cheating husbands. They are viewed differently. I personally feel cheating husbands are no different than cheating wives. You broke the vows you took, show your disrespect, and humiliate your spouse by cheating on them.
Better but still not there.
I liked this story much more than the original. but in real life I believe a small percentage of marriages make it when there is infidelity by either partner. once trust is gone the marriage is over. that is just reality.
Mutilation is the Most Sincere Form of Flattery
I got the title of this comment from a song by Marilyn Manson, who probably says what I’m thinking a lot better than what I’ll say here. Maybe you should read the song’s lyrics. And note that I gave credit to him/her.
First I want to thank you for being pissed off enough to write another version of my story. My intention was to evoke an emotional response and it worked. I don’t take personal offense but I do believe like a couple others that said that you took a hop, skip and a jump over the invisible ethics line. I did have another writer ask me if they could do an alternate ending and I politely said no, and they didn’t. There is no violation of Copyright law here but in college we were held accountable if we plagiarized someone else’s work. There isn’t any jury here except your peers. But I do feel that as writers we’ve got to feel free enough on this website to create our stories without fear of someone else pirating our ideas and crapping all over them. You wouldn’t want someone taking one of your stories and changing it all around until it doesn’t say what you intended.
As to the story itself… I’m not sure you really read my story let alone understood it. From all the comments I got back only a few did, so you aren’t alone. However, you took a story that had more to do with love and forgiveness and giving than screwing and turned into another piece of cliché Loving Wives cookie cutter dribble. And if it wasn’t banal enough, you used the most overused word in the genre “cuckold”. As for the characters and the writing style read everybody else’s comments: I only found three grammar errors in it, but then what do I know?
Lastly, for someone that says they’ve gone through a divorce I’m surprised that you don’t understand the issues and emotions that come up when the possibility is staring you in the face, at least it didn’t come out in this story. NOTHING is as black and white as you make it. EVERYTHING is a grey area. And it’s difficult to write with grey ink.
Please be a bit more considerate of others next time.
radk
What's to understand?
she was unfaithful because she was a slut. Sorry, but it was pretty black and white. I though this was a better job than the original with her idiotic and self centered belief because she was in love with her lover it was ok to cheat. Sorry, it wasn't cheating because she still loved her husband. What a crock of shit. After 20 years I would have had a bigger problem with her attitude than the original cheating. Hell, if nothing else she lied for 20+ years! But not bad, better resolution than the first.
You seems to be in the same place as the wife ...
She thinks she did nothing wrong .... you obviously think you did nothing wrong in ripping off the original author with no credit or permission.
I'm sorry but you ethic's are in the toilet over this regardless of the content of the story if you didn't have permission you shouldn't have written it.
Excellent
I love it when a different author takes on a story previously posted and gives it their own twist/slant/point of view. I enjoyed this and gave it an excellent rating because I think you got it right. I know of more than a few real people that this happened to. I would be very interested to see how you get them back together and get her husband over what has happened to him.
As the story points out, they don't have childred to rear and money isn't the issue, so why stay.
Marvelous number
of comments. Clearly this story raised the hackles of a number of readers including myself. I just read the authors defense (appologia) to some of the comments and have to further comments. The end of the story does not clearly show that there will be further counseling. Her argument is that the wife has finally figured out her "mistake." Neither of those is CLEARLY stated at the end in the mix of the husband's and wife's back and forth with the counselor not in the middle but hovering in the outskirts pleased at her supposed accomplishment. Second, the rant that society views men's cheating differently than women's is correct. Men are treated worse and with the greatest disdain. Modern divorce punishes men when the wife cheats: California is the perfect example. IN Texas, the laws go in the other direction too far and does hurt women. But in the middle, men too often are cut off from their children, pay exorbitant allimoney,and that is because of societies stereotype that even a cheating wife is a better choice for a mother than a faithful husband. I am beginning to suspect that this unconscious motivation explains why her male characters are always so unmale. I would love to hear what the heck she thinks makes a man a man for her. I believe men should be sensitive, loving, caring, faithful, supportive, work for equality in the relationship, communicate, and try their best to help the partner, wife, achieve what she needs to achieve to be happy in the limits of the marriage. It would seem that in her "world" that women do not have to do the same thing for the husband. Oh boo-hoo, I was bored and needed excitement and I do not need to tell my husband this, just go off and have good time without him and let him work his ass to support me. She never got that. Men who cheat are scum. Women who cheat are scum. That is what society says. And women take advantage of that. Where I live, women ALWAYS do better in the divorce. Yes, more men cheat than women. But if you follow statistics, in the last 25 years the rate of wifes caught cheating or admitting to cheating has been rapidly catching up with men: they hyprocracy of women who act as if few women would do this is amazing. Admittedly on this site, stories rarely deal with cheating men who are punished; cheating women are nailed often here: why? Because more men seem to write these stories and also seem to be passionate about how much they dislike cheating (with exception of those who are exploring their ambivalent feelings about the topic like JPB). The author's interest in cuckolding is interesting as her stories are again about weak men and selfish women. The weak men suffer, the selfish women flourish. In that world men are hateful and the women disgusting and in her essay she defends her right to write these stories and I agree: keep writing and doing what you clearly enjoy: yanking the chains of those who do not like these stories and keep reading them: we all get it. So be happy, author. You have people reading and reacting: some over the top, some very thougtful, and some who would like to see you try something else to stretch your talent. (PS: could not resist the little rant myself)
BNB may be funny; but, harryinVA is hilarious...
I think you were wrong to re-write w/o permission. That being said, I think the story was interesting though unresolved.
Lynn you may have some issues w/ men, but it pales to HarryinVA. He needs counseling and anger managment at least- and perhaps institutionalization w/ electroshock therapy (if they still had it). Dude (HarryinVA), you need to mellow out. Lynn is not attacking you personally; therefore, try responding in kind.
Unfortunately, I agree with others about plagiarism . . .
This story was fairly good until the end, where the reader is left hanging. But I do feel that getting the author's permission would have been the right thing to do. I think a statement to the effect that you regret you made a mistake in writing a sequel without explicit permission from the author would go a long way in getting many readers to forgive you. After all, no one is perfect. Maybe you just couldn't find the original in order to give credit to it. Maybe you didn't realize the conventions relating to sequels. I would assume that you would not enjoy someone's writing a sequel to one of your stories without obtaining your permission . . .
I thought it was well written.
I don't think I read a the story referred to. And I'm not all that sure that there are not a number of stories with a similar concept that might have provided the basis for her idea, so I regard this in it's own right. I took it that the story was being told by the counsellor and so it is her POV. On that basis I think it stands up. She is relaying what she sees as the reactions of the couple. As for the ending, I think she is suggesting that was the end of her involvement with them and that the next item on her calendar was another couple with problems of fidelity. Another drain on the counsellors emotions.
I think some readers project their ideas onto a story without trying to read what the writer is trying to say.
pretty well done
One would think that this was pretty much what was needed to answer the questions left open by the previous story that was posted a few weeks ago. Lynn has taken that story and turned it around by changing the POV to the therapist, and made it more understandable.
Of course a misogynistic jerk like Harry could never understand a story like this. His first reaction is; Lynn is a man-hater. Why? Because she came up with some of the truths missing in the previous story?
Lynn may have hit it right on the button. Because the lover was killed in mid-affair, so to speak, his 'relationship' with the wife was frozen in time, never to change in the wife's memory. It never had a chance to grow stale. She held on to the memory of a perfect love, when what she really had was a pretty good affair with no commitments and none of the injections of real-life reality to bring it into its proper perspective.
Actually, it's the obvious answer. Anyone should have seen it in the previous story - but I certainly didn't. The affair never had a chance to take its natural course: acquaintance, flirting, romance, hot sex, good sex, and then the eventual wind-down to boredom.
My problem with this is: the affair took a very long time. Was it two years? In an affair-time, that's a long time. Usually by then the blush has worn off the rose.
Still, I'm willing to buy Lynn's premise. Why do the misogynists on this site always feel the need to pass moral judgment on the wife's actions rather than passing judgment on the quality of the story?
In fact in this story, there still is not a final resolution in terms of the marriage. We are left in the air about whether the husband can come to terms with the wife's infidelity or not.
What we are given is an understanding of WHY. Why did she do it? Why did she keep the letters? Why did she think she still loved the boyfriend 20 years later?
Those questions annoyed me about the first story. And this story resolved those question to my satisfaction, at least.
There Was Never A Question
It was sinply a three year suck and fuck with no strings attached, just fun for them and hell for him. I couldn't let it go, I would move on, thats my problem with both stories, this I was in love with two guys was always a load of crap, they were looking for a affair and found one, all the I love you bullshit was just that, said so they could think it was more than it was, a cheap affair. The fact that she would do this with a good marriage and a young son and no remorse, shows she is not the woman she pretended to be, marriage was a sham, thats why he moves on.
Both Radk & LynnGKS versions stink!
Point #1 - LynnGKS should not have plagiarized Radk's story without permission.
Point #2 - Harry's analysis is typically 99% correct, as it is in this pathetic ending of this effort. Granted, his response is usually very direct but he knows when a "spade is a spade" and anyone reading the balance of Lynngks's cluck stories will see a man-hater underneath the surface. Notice the similarities of plot devices between Nici/Angie and this author - that's a whole lot of man hating going on.
As a majority of these stories demonstrate [including DSQ's current effort with the famous slut wife, Debbie] the females are consistent as self-centered sluts and pretty much get away with cheating every time with little to no consequences. This is due to the fact that the male characters in those author's stories are typically wimps or clucks with no balls. The king(s) of cluck stories are MattM/Britease and JPB - but one knows that if you open one of their stories, you will consistently get that type of dog shit plot and wimp/cluck characters. Debra & Wayne
It stinks!
Well since I took the day off I get to come in late.
As far as the story. I read the comments after reading your version of an ending and was dismayed that you didn't get permission! That is a big NO-NO!
Why do you hate men so much?
So I am going with Harry on this one! Everything except the name calling!
Sorry!
to the idiot THEBULLET
read these words S L O W L Y...
3 years is NOT an affair. it is a whole new and seperate life.
who givis a shit whether or not the wife had the time to enjoy the natural cycle of an affair?
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