There is no rational basis for the John Trevor ending. The author's own ending is consistent with his characters and his plot. I personally didn't like how he dealt with the situation but it was plausible. His ending matches the original.
I did not care for your story, the husbands actions were unrealistic. No man would have put up with her cheating for so long. What was the crap about if he did not know about the affair and it did not take away from there relationship that it should be ignored. I did not like the way hansbwl wimped out with his ending but John's was a little over the top. I think a good beating for David, exposing their affair to all and kicking her stupid ass to the curb would have been a better ending. Hansbwl you story ending is as weak as your main character George.
No man would put up with this?? Sorry, you are dead wrong! There are thousands of men who would just react this way: They´re writing cuck-worshipping-stories here on Cuckerotica...and the number is growing steadily, I´m afraid.
Read this before and I have a different comment.
Maybe the first ending was over the top but the second was too passive. Let's settle this with one possibility. He doesn't divorce his wife but they are separated. He sues the hospital and wins his case. He meets other women and uses his wild cards and she can't do anything about it. She doesn't try to divorce him because after getting fired she gets sick and needs his benefits for doctor's care. She dies in pain but not alone as the kids visit her but not the husband. He's busy with his forty-five year old girlfriend.
There. Now that's a great happy ending.
Of course the second is compatable with the story.
Black van execetion? Wow! George would have to have been some underworld Don to have pulled THAT off!
Perhaps George should have used his wild card leverage to coerce the wife into some sexual favors. Hey, tho old, he isn't dead yet! Epilogue 3???
Have read this story three times, this and some others on this site are thought provoking and I don't think there can be a happy ending, we are not talking of a one off error of judgment or short affair during times of stress or some discord this was a carefully planed and executed act of deceit over many years, she started her affair after having children and she and her lover had much to loose in the workplace and with friends and relations. You see, for the husband all the highs and lows of a long marriage of sticking together through thick and thin, choosing things for the home, the gifts at Christmas and birthdays, the joy of having children and sharing the dramas and joy in their upbringing, the disagreements and the making up, the grand gestures of love, the family outings the quiet intimate times together and all the little day to day expressions of love, all those memories are completely undermined and made out to be false and empty, it's like death in it's finality it cannot be undone there is no coming back, all he has is his children.
Two opposed epilogues...The 1st one through rough violence. The 2nd so soft...I have to go for the first one...30 years of cheating deserved violence, not sweetness...
Now if his wife had been meeting her lover many times and possibly one or more of their children was not his I might like John Trevor's ending. It was a pretty soft romance and he handled it well.
I heard about six months ago that my wife of over fifty years had been seen with another former relative (no kin to her, only to me, by marriage) and the situation was not definitive. She had (in the late seventies) gotten $500 she needed really bad from this man and my wife had worked for his sister. I never questioned why he would give her $500 and at this late date I would never ask her about any possible relationship that was not kosher. After all, she forgave me for a short affair during the sixties so I surely would not stir up something that might have happened before 1975. After about 30 years of troubled marriage we have had over 25 good years so I would be a fool to worry about a possible infidelity with no sort of evidence at all. Of course, I hate a willing cuckold so if I was presented with definite proof now I might do something about it like a divorce but just for someone to see her in a music store with hm, shopping, does not mean anything.
The other ending, on the other hand, really doesn't add anything to the original. I think the original ending, with him going out to use his wild cards and letting her know that from now on he'd be turning the tables on her was probably the best.
...the comments on these extremely opposing endings should be a warning to any man or woman thinking of cheating. Either you get away with it, which means your spouse is staying with you because of factors other then love, or your spouse reacts badly and extracts some form of justice if not out-right vengeance. Regardless you either have a relationship that's forever damaged and likely no longer based on love for you.
I admire John Trevor's imagination, but his ending doesn't fit the story or the characters. Hansbwl has a much deeper understanding of the plot and characters as well he should. After all, it is his story and it was written from a maturity that could only be felt by someone of that age.
I ESPECIALLY disliked the first one. A vitriol filled story of hatred and punishment doesn't even REMOTELY fit with the kind of man who spends nearly a month dealing with his (cheating) wife and trying to create a situation where they can REMAIN married without spreading around the pain.
The second doesn't involve any feeling for us about her guilt, assuming she NOW experiences it. Clearly, she's gone thirty years without any discernible guilt.
She's already made it clear that she doesn't care about his "male pride". Meaning she isn't seeing how a "friendship" should bother him.
She's also shown though that causing him pain - now that she recognizes her actions COULD cause him pain - disturbs her. She cried when she thought of Richard crying... picturing her husband in that situation.
I think, if he really has no intention of breaking his wedding vows, that he should just spend TIME with other women - or another woman - time that he thereby is not spending with her... taking part of THEIR life from HER... after all, his time with other women can't HELP but make what they had better, make THEIR relationship better, right...? Sounds just like HER argument for "Richard"...
I read this once before, do not remember if I commented.
I thought that John's ending was too extreme although the wife should have been punished. I guess the mental anguish she suffered might have been enough. I think that hansbwl's ending was very good and that the husband handled it well after he found out. At age 70 there is not too much you can do to a partner of that long, there is always the probability that both would end up lonely and sad.
Why bother posting that first one? It makes George's demand that David stay away or else a lie and is just plain sick in its treatment of the pair.
The second part was much better. It really wrapped up the story. I like to think he left the stubs on purpose. It let her get a taste of what he was feeling without the haunted memory that it really happened.
Sorry but the first part was SO bad, I have to trash the whole thing.
All because he was afraid to live alone once he learned of the betrayal
It might be the "civilized" approach.... but he still was more afraid to be alone than to live with honor. The author made him into a willing cuckold. I am almost as old as those in this story. What is it that says we have to fear old age and mortality? Why is it that we are expected to live with someone who we cannot honor JUST because we are afraid to die alone? I have a hint for you. We are all born alone (even twins and multiple births) and we all die alone. No one dies with us. Hans created a person who fears... one of the definitions of the term wimp. As well as the term coward.
Trevor's variant is sick and evil. Violent torture and death are NOT commensurate punishments for a man having discreet sex with a married woman! The latter is not appropriate, but, from Hubby's perspective, Sweetie's actions were much more egregious than those of the Bull. Sweetie compromised her marriage, Bull got some pussy! (From the viewpoint of the Bull's wife, the degree of fault would be reversed!)
In both versions, Fatal Cancer (deus ex machina) provides Just Retribution, but places the blame on Kismet, or Karma, or God, or Just Plain Bad Luck! Just Retribution does NOT, IMHO, enhance this story. When provided by Providence, rather than human contrivance, it is Just Plain Gratuitous.
In the Hansbwl version, I believe (as I commented on Ch1) that Sweetie would quickly find their new relationship to be untenable!
Your epilogue was touching and completely fit the characters involved.
I didn't bother to read the other epilogue. From the comment just before mine, I gather that my instincts were correct. I rarely enjoy those who attempt to write alternate endings to stories another author has written. They usually have some morality message that conflicts with what we know of the story's characters.
I just "found" your stories and enjoy them. Your humor and compassion show through and you have some interesting twists.
I liked the writer's ending, but she being near 80 years old, it wasn't necessary to make her die with cancer, any massive heart attack was enough!!! About the reader's ending: No comments!!!
Frankly, I didnt care for either. Evidently they wouldn't have talked had she not found the ticket. Sir, she did not deserve forgiveness. I would have burned both of them, and yes, would have sued the hospital. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Truthfully, I would have enjoyed looking for another woman. Just sayin.
how about this for an ending. "can you forgive me for ruining our marriage" and he replies " of course i can, i was fucking your sister the whole time. and now that your dying and i dont have to split everything to be with her we are gonna be very happy together. oh bye the way your nieces and nephews are also your step children. before i forget did you remember to pay your life insurance bill. no matter i'll get when i get home. bye love "
English
Huh?
There is no rational basis for the John Trevor ending. The author's own ending is consistent with his characters and his plot. I personally didn't like how he dealt with the situation but it was plausible. His ending matches the original.
Just another wimp cuckold
I did not care for your story, the husbands actions were unrealistic. No man would have put up with her cheating for so long. What was the crap about if he did not know about the affair and it did not take away from there relationship that it should be ignored. I did not like the way hansbwl wimped out with his ending but John's was a little over the top. I think a good beating for David, exposing their affair to all and kicking her stupid ass to the curb would have been a better ending. Hansbwl you story ending is as weak as your main character George.
@ Lonewolf2013
No man would put up with this?? Sorry, you are dead wrong! There are thousands of men who would just react this way: They´re writing cuck-worshipping-stories here on Cuckerotica...and the number is growing steadily, I´m afraid.
I like your ending better
Nice job on the original story and this epilogue. Will read more of yur stuff.
Two Ending, Huh?
Read this before and I have a different comment.
Maybe the first ending was over the top but the second was too passive. Let's settle this with one possibility. He doesn't divorce his wife but they are separated. He sues the hospital and wins his case. He meets other women and uses his wild cards and she can't do anything about it. She doesn't try to divorce him because after getting fired she gets sick and needs his benefits for doctor's care. She dies in pain but not alone as the kids visit her but not the husband. He's busy with his forty-five year old girlfriend.
There. Now that's a great happy ending.
I vote for Epilog #2 by hansbwl
I thought the hansbwl epilog was compatible with the original story line and the characters therein, hands down.
Overall a well done story. Fine wordsmithing
KILL BILL WAS RIGHT
some things you do can never be changed, TK U MLJ LV NV
Unbelievable
Of course the second is compatable with the story.
Black van execetion? Wow! George would have to have been some underworld Don to have pulled THAT off!
Perhaps George should have used his wild card leverage to coerce the wife into some sexual favors. Hey, tho old, he isn't dead yet! Epilogue 3???
The Devil vs The Angel
John Trevor would do well as a executioner. Either with the Criminal Justice System or
The Mafia. That's why I'm going with Epilogue #2.
Read Before
Have read this story three times, this and some others on this site are thought provoking and I don't think there can be a happy ending, we are not talking of a one off error of judgment or short affair during times of stress or some discord this was a carefully planed and executed act of deceit over many years, she started her affair after having children and she and her lover had much to loose in the workplace and with friends and relations. You see, for the husband all the highs and lows of a long marriage of sticking together through thick and thin, choosing things for the home, the gifts at Christmas and birthdays, the joy of having children and sharing the dramas and joy in their upbringing, the disagreements and the making up, the grand gestures of love, the family outings the quiet intimate times together and all the little day to day expressions of love, all those memories are completely undermined and made out to be false and empty, it's like death in it's finality it cannot be undone there is no coming back, all he has is his children.
Epilogues...
Two opposed epilogues...The 1st one through rough violence. The 2nd so soft...I have to go for the first one...30 years of cheating deserved violence, not sweetness...
I much prefer the hansbwl version.
Now if his wife had been meeting her lover many times and possibly one or more of their children was not his I might like John Trevor's ending. It was a pretty soft romance and he handled it well.
I heard about six months ago that my wife of over fifty years had been seen with another former relative (no kin to her, only to me, by marriage) and the situation was not definitive. She had (in the late seventies) gotten $500 she needed really bad from this man and my wife had worked for his sister. I never questioned why he would give her $500 and at this late date I would never ask her about any possible relationship that was not kosher. After all, she forgave me for a short affair during the sixties so I surely would not stir up something that might have happened before 1975. After about 30 years of troubled marriage we have had over 25 good years so I would be a fool to worry about a possible infidelity with no sort of evidence at all. Of course, I hate a willing cuckold so if I was presented with definite proof now I might do something about it like a divorce but just for someone to see her in a music store with hm, shopping, does not mean anything.
Let me add:
I am usually of the BTB persuasion.
John was abused as a kid??
Your ending is good. Creative to some extent. The other guy is way off base. Filled and consumed I'd bet by hate. I feel sorry for him.
Your ending is infinitely better!
The violent ending is just not him
The other ending, on the other hand, really doesn't add anything to the original. I think the original ending, with him going out to use his wild cards and letting her know that from now on he'd be turning the tables on her was probably the best.
If anything...
...the comments on these extremely opposing endings should be a warning to any man or woman thinking of cheating. Either you get away with it, which means your spouse is staying with you because of factors other then love, or your spouse reacts badly and extracts some form of justice if not out-right vengeance. Regardless you either have a relationship that's forever damaged and likely no longer based on love for you.
His ending doesn't fit.
I admire John Trevor's imagination, but his ending doesn't fit the story or the characters. Hansbwl has a much deeper understanding of the plot and characters as well he should. After all, it is his story and it was written from a maturity that could only be felt by someone of that age.
Thanks for an ejoyable story.
Hmmm... I don't really see either of those...
I ESPECIALLY disliked the first one. A vitriol filled story of hatred and punishment doesn't even REMOTELY fit with the kind of man who spends nearly a month dealing with his (cheating) wife and trying to create a situation where they can REMAIN married without spreading around the pain.
The second doesn't involve any feeling for us about her guilt, assuming she NOW experiences it. Clearly, she's gone thirty years without any discernible guilt.
She's already made it clear that she doesn't care about his "male pride". Meaning she isn't seeing how a "friendship" should bother him.
She's also shown though that causing him pain - now that she recognizes her actions COULD cause him pain - disturbs her. She cried when she thought of Richard crying... picturing her husband in that situation.
I think, if he really has no intention of breaking his wedding vows, that he should just spend TIME with other women - or another woman - time that he thereby is not spending with her... taking part of THEIR life from HER... after all, his time with other women can't HELP but make what they had better, make THEIR relationship better, right...? Sounds just like HER argument for "Richard"...
I read this once before, do not remember if I commented.
I thought that John's ending was too extreme although the wife should have been punished. I guess the mental anguish she suffered might have been enough. I think that hansbwl's ending was very good and that the husband handled it well after he found out. At age 70 there is not too much you can do to a partner of that long, there is always the probability that both would end up lonely and sad.
Why bother?
Why bother posting that first one? It makes George's demand that David stay away or else a lie and is just plain sick in its treatment of the pair.
The second part was much better. It really wrapped up the story. I like to think he left the stubs on purpose. It let her get a taste of what he was feeling without the haunted memory that it really happened.
Sorry but the first part was SO bad, I have to trash the whole thing.
All because he was afraid to live alone once he learned of the betrayal
It might be the "civilized" approach.... but he still was more afraid to be alone than to live with honor. The author made him into a willing cuckold. I am almost as old as those in this story. What is it that says we have to fear old age and mortality? Why is it that we are expected to live with someone who we cannot honor JUST because we are afraid to die alone? I have a hint for you. We are all born alone (even twins and multiple births) and we all die alone. No one dies with us. Hans created a person who fears... one of the definitions of the term wimp. As well as the term coward.
Neither
Trevor's variant is sick and evil. Violent torture and death are NOT commensurate punishments for a man having discreet sex with a married woman! The latter is not appropriate, but, from Hubby's perspective, Sweetie's actions were much more egregious than those of the Bull. Sweetie compromised her marriage, Bull got some pussy! (From the viewpoint of the Bull's wife, the degree of fault would be reversed!)
In both versions, Fatal Cancer (deus ex machina) provides Just Retribution, but places the blame on Kismet, or Karma, or God, or Just Plain Bad Luck! Just Retribution does NOT, IMHO, enhance this story. When provided by Providence, rather than human contrivance, it is Just Plain Gratuitous.
In the Hansbwl version, I believe (as I commented on Ch1) that Sweetie would quickly find their new relationship to be untenable!
4*
Very touching
Your epilogue was touching and completely fit the characters involved.
I didn't bother to read the other epilogue. From the comment just before mine, I gather that my instincts were correct. I rarely enjoy those who attempt to write alternate endings to stories another author has written. They usually have some morality message that conflicts with what we know of the story's characters.
I just "found" your stories and enjoy them. Your humor and compassion show through and you have some interesting twists.
Thanks for posting this story.
I liked the writer's ending, but...
I liked the writer's ending, but she being near 80 years old, it wasn't necessary to make her die with cancer, any massive heart attack was enough!!! About the reader's ending: No comments!!!
MEMORIES ARE LIKE PAINT
they fade with time, leaving the undercoat still there to remind one/ TK U MLJ LV NV
to be frank
Frankly, I didnt care for either. Evidently they wouldn't have talked had she not found the ticket. Sir, she did not deserve forgiveness. I would have burned both of them, and yes, would have sued the hospital. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Truthfully, I would have enjoyed looking for another woman. Just sayin.
no thanks
how about this for an ending. "can you forgive me for ruining our marriage" and he replies " of course i can, i was fucking your sister the whole time. and now that your dying and i dont have to split everything to be with her we are gonna be very happy together. oh bye the way your nieces and nephews are also your step children. before i forget did you remember to pay your life insurance bill. no matter i'll get when i get home. bye love "
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