I always enjoy your stories, even if I don't want anyone disrespected (even cuckolded husbands) no matter what side they are on. I'm not sure which commenters give me the chuckles the most, the men who spew venom in defense of fictional husbands or the holier-than-thou critics of those men.
want a way out? have him meet her at a hotel, with a small digital mike and have a receiver in the car outside with the husband. then have the husband tape the guy saying it is fuck me or i fire your husband - and the problem goes away. or better yet have the police in a van listening in and they arrest him. wife should have asked if this was standardf practice about signing contracts or not. if it was standard, no harm no foul. could even be guy said - "Hey i'm busy jsut sign my name to it, it is approved." these are some stupid women who want to get fucked like sluts. but it was written well.
It is interesting (at least for one of the testosterone persuasion) to even consider painting guilt without using direct accusation as the brush! It has to be even more difficult to write it into a story which is intriguing (even even if the implicit is NOT recognized!)
The characters have made two poor choices (widely separated in time)! First, of course, each should have informed her spouse about the blackmail in such a way as to trap the malefactor while protecting Hubby's job (and perhaps secure the vacated Boss job!)
The second is that, since the whole game is coming unraveled, cooperating with law enforcement (or perhaps more senior company management) MIGHT get the Asshole's retirement as well as the videos. Waiting and hoping is almost guaranteed to blow up in their faces!
5*
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Anonymous02/26/13
What? That has to be hands-down the dumbest attorney I've ever met. They may not be employees, but that's sexual harassment, coercion, blackmail, and quite frankly while it might be hard to get him imprisoned, Clark would be out of his job, his company sued into oblivion and completely unemployable forever.
Pure whore logic, justifying whoredom, and the baffling thing is that no harem of women would go cock-stupid for a fatass loser like that. Poorly devised plot with too much reliance on all women being stupid whores and all men being stupid assholes who cheat.
but that's what we expect of you. I agree with one poster who said you were just a little bit heavy on the moralising - but I certainly don't agree that there's any need for a second episode. It was complete for those who are capable of thinking - anything more would have been unnecessary.
In real life, of course, it would have only needed one of the victims to discuss Clark's proposition with her husband before acting for his whole house of cards to come tumbling down - but then that would have been a very different story, wouldn't it?
Can you for once have a woman in your stories that has a brain !
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Anonymous02/27/13
This must be a good story. It enraged all the virgin trolls!
If they had a woman in their momma's basement, they'd feel guilty for cheating on their right hand!
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Anonymous02/27/13
Good Story, but...
I think you missed the opportunity to write erotic literature and actually end the story. You left me hanging with a non-ending.
I didn't mind the moralization. It was a honest point you were making. The person who said that this (Harris' action against Sandy) was sexual harassment was correct.
And, the protag and her buddy coulda/shoulda begun an investigation on their own. They merely had to get a list of the wives of the salespeople (following through on your supposition that this was not just a Sandy issue) and talk candidly with each of their wives. Or, for that matter, intercede on behalf of Sandy with Sandy's husband so that he will at least know her side (and the protag's rationalization) of why she "sacrificed" her fidelity for her family.
Moralistically I don't agree with what Harris did, but as a writer you need to have a conflict to overcome/defeat. His would have been a perfect vehicle for you to have the same thing happen to the protag's friend, or through investigation, to another salesman's wife. You dropped that ball. At least then, we could have had more of a erotic tale, but maybe you are not into writing erotica as much as introducing a thesis disguised as a complete story.
For a woman with a brain please read "Bedroom Conversations" and "A Very Special Guy" and read about those women with brains. I write about dumb broads and dumb studs and it's more fun to mix them up.
Lynn
PLease read "Bedroom Conversations"and "A very Special Guy" to read about a woman with a brain.
Lynn
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Anonymous02/27/13
Lynn
Kate was right. Few of your Loving Wives stories have intelligent women. They seem to think with what is between their legs. Almost a parody of themselves
it seems that the wives tried to justify cheating on husbands, "to save thier family"! what total bullshit
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Anonymous02/27/13
Liked it !!!
I thought it was original. Blackmail isn't, but still the error was the husband's.
Other tapes exist ! Who will be promoted ? Will the once a month club continue?
Thanks Don
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Anonymous02/27/13
Just another exuse for a cheating whore
What a load of shit! "Men can't stand the truth about what their wives will go to save them." Wow, what a pathetic excuse for a cheating whore. And the husbands have to be the stupidest wimps ever.
- she's still a whore! Yeah, yeah, I read all that twaddle about doing what she has to do for her family. Baloney! She took the easy way out. She CHOSE to ignore her marriage vows rather than face financial hardships. Men, in this author's view, "can't stand the truth about what their wives will do for them under pressure" when the truth (at least in this story) is that the women can't stand the truth about what they are willing to do under pressure. Most wedding vows contain something along the lines of, "...richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, forsaking all others." Apparently it's the man's fault for believing their wedding vows are more important than their income level. Thankfully, I know enough Kansans to know that Lynn G is a minority there.
Very good story - well written and certainly got people talking!
@ angiquesophie - LOL!! @Duna - EXCELLENT idea! @everyone who's raving about WHORES - chill, it's a story. Unfortunately I'm sure it's happened irl to more than a few, and I'm sure there was a wide range of outcomes. Before going off on a rant, consider how materialistic you are and how important that may be to your spouse. Do they KNOW you'd chance losing your job for them and NOT hate them for it? Hmmm, if you have doubts, maybe you need to make clear what is REALLY most important, to yourself, and your partner!
It is a true short story, one that it says what it needs to in a short time..I initially was confused at the end, but then realized what was going on (when her friend says "who else has been on the sales team that long, which is their husbands). If Lynne wanted to take this another way, the women very well would realize the others were involved, talk, and find a way to get the scumbag, and there are plenty of ways. Even if it was consensual fucking, the lawyer in question is an idiot, because a boss having sex with the wife of a direct report is automatically guilty of harassment if someone files a complaint, it would take a miracle to prove it was otherwise, because he had power over the woman in question (same with having sex with a direct report, you have to be a first class moron to do that).
But taking it as Sandy wrote it, it is interesting to read the reactions. What the women were doing is stupid in many ways, they weren't powerless, but you can at least understand the reasoning. If the boss was some hot young stud, instead of some slob, you might be able to say they were simply sluts fucking around, but the description is they tolerated it (btw, having an orgasm doesn't prove a woman like it, despite what Faux News nation believes..women who are abused or raped will orgasm, their body can do it whether they enjoy it or not, and it causes the victim shame). At best,they were mistake
What is also interesting is that the raving anons and such castigate the women for doing this, while totally overlooking what the husband's did, they put their wives into that position, they gave that slimeball power of their wife and their job by doing something unethical and quite frankly illegal (forgery with intent to deceive is a criminal act, and the fact that that act of forgery cost the company money on a service contract is also theft of services). To maintain their jobs, the men did exactly what the wives did, they broke the law, they violated ethical principles, cheated, to try and get ahead. But I am sure the Faux News watchers on here will say that is different, that they were trying to preserve their jobs, etc. Buddy didn't even give Sandy a chance to explain, he decided to let a long marriage break up without even hearing the facts, or that he himself was partially to blame. The ironic part is if the wife had said no to buddy, their husband would have lost their job, the same fate if they hadn't have cheated in the first place..but it is okay for the man to commit an ethical and legal violation to save his job, but because it was sex, it is burn the bitch..hypocritical isn't even the word. But oh, wait, they were 'providing for their family'..so when the wife does it, it is crass materialism, richer or poorer, etc, but when the husband breaks more then a few commandments and law, he is forgiven, right.
The other thing that is sorely missing with the kill the slut crowd is the supervisor, Clark, they are universally silent. So blackmailing a wife into have sex with him is perfectly okay, and if it happens, it is the 'slut's' fault? The guy broke numerous laws, put his company in jeopardy of being financially hurt, but the women are the evil ones? I know you middle america, GOP base, tea bagger types see things in a perverted way, but holy shit, whatever happened to 'morality is morality'....or are you going to give me what the religious droolers have decided, that if a person is put in a position of authority, God put them there, so to hell with that?
I wonder if someone wrote a story where the wife was working, had done something on the edge legally, and boss blackmailed husband into having sex, to keep wife's job, and the wife finds out and divorces H, what the righteous types would say? I seem to recall stories like that, and more then a few posters put the blame on the wife for not listening to him, or for cheating in the first place.
Lynne, nice job....I could see a follow on (just me) where Buddy the oh so blind gets wind of what happened, and Sandy wises up and goes after the company for what happened, and maybe they reconcile, but that is me..but as it stands, really well written.
As if the women would continue fucking him when the could get him caught pretty easily, caught by the law! He communicated with his whores about where to meet him. A call to the authorities could have him caught.....Recording phone calls from him might add to their credbility as well.
I guess the moral of the story is "watch your back Jack or Jane". Especially in this day and age where everyone seems to be recording everything. You never know when what you do or say is bring recorded. Just remember - revenge can be a harsh mistress.
I does not surprise me that a wife would do anything to save her husband and family. Women can also be cunning and vicious in protecting their families. It is just a shame that the women in this story, knowing how men are, would not either fight back, or inform their husbands and fight back together. Well written story. Thanks
Your storytelling skills and writing are very good, Lynn, on another level altogether compared to the usual on Lit. I hope you keep writing. I always enjoy your work.
These wives clearly valued money more than their husbands emotional well being. They were willing to risk it to keep their money. They also had no faith in their husbands ability to provide for them in a minor adverse circumstance. All they'd have to do is tell the bastard to go ahead and fire their husband. Then she'd tell her husband what he tried to do and her husband would kill him. Sure her husband might go to jail but it wouldn't matter because their finances were already ruined. So go ahead, fire him and die.
All of this outrage and indignation, It's been a long time since I read this story and it's as good as it was before. I get it. It's an uncomfortable thought about what a person could or would do when his/her home is in jeopardy. You've got kids and times are tough; your whole life could fall into chaos and homelessness is right around the corner.
As a guy, I wonder about this: Let's say you're the husband and you find out about your boss's predatory habit. Could you arrange an accident for him? Could you make sure he'd NEVER come back to work? Would it be wrong? Of course.
But I could understand it.
Remember -- Adultery is only ONE of the ten commandments. Even in homicides there can be mitigating circumstances.
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Anonymous08/01/16
Sick a private investigator on him
It'd be pretty easy to get him followed and get incriminating photos identifying all of his victims. At that point, the matter could be turned over to the police or the employer sued. His position would be awkward enough that he could be forced to leave town for fear of litigation, unemployability or outright lynching in the public square at high noon. Once the secret is out, no reason to remain silent any more.
English
Good Story, Great Writer
I always enjoy your stories, even if I don't want anyone disrespected (even cuckolded husbands) no matter what side they are on. I'm not sure which commenters give me the chuckles the most, the men who spew venom in defense of fictional husbands or the holier-than-thou critics of those men.
want a way out? have him meet her at a hotel, with a small digital mike and have a receiver in the car outside with the husband. then have the husband tape the guy saying it is fuck me or i fire your husband - and the problem goes away. or better yet have the police in a van listening in and they arrest him. wife should have asked if this was standardf practice about signing contracts or not. if it was standard, no harm no foul. could even be guy said - "Hey i'm busy jsut sign my name to it, it is approved." these are some stupid women who want to get fucked like sluts. but it was written well.
Excellent job of implying the unsavory
It is interesting (at least for one of the testosterone persuasion) to even consider painting guilt without using direct accusation as the brush! It has to be even more difficult to write it into a story which is intriguing (even even if the implicit is NOT recognized!)
The characters have made two poor choices (widely separated in time)! First, of course, each should have informed her spouse about the blackmail in such a way as to trap the malefactor while protecting Hubby's job (and perhaps secure the vacated Boss job!)
The second is that, since the whole game is coming unraveled, cooperating with law enforcement (or perhaps more senior company management) MIGHT get the Asshole's retirement as well as the videos. Waiting and hoping is almost guaranteed to blow up in their faces!
5*
What? That has to be hands-down the dumbest attorney I've ever met. They may not be employees, but that's sexual harassment, coercion, blackmail, and quite frankly while it might be hard to get him imprisoned, Clark would be out of his job, his company sued into oblivion and completely unemployable forever.
Pure whore logic, justifying whoredom, and the baffling thing is that no harem of women would go cock-stupid for a fatass loser like that. Poorly devised plot with too much reliance on all women being stupid whores and all men being stupid assholes who cheat.
Cold cruel and true. In a LW exaggerated way. I so enjoyed the writing.
I think you led us all sheep to the gate - and kept it closed. No happy ending - no fairy-tale humor. Just a stark and ultimately terse conclusion. 5*
Original and well-written
but that's what we expect of you. I agree with one poster who said you were just a little bit heavy on the moralising - but I certainly don't agree that there's any need for a second episode. It was complete for those who are capable of thinking - anything more would have been unnecessary.
In real life, of course, it would have only needed one of the victims to discuss Clark's proposition with her husband before acting for his whole house of cards to come tumbling down - but then that would have been a very different story, wouldn't it?
Lynn
Can you for once have a woman in your stories that has a brain !
This must be a good story. It enraged all the virgin trolls!
If they had a woman in their momma's basement, they'd feel guilty for cheating on their right hand!
Good Story, but...
I think you missed the opportunity to write erotic literature and actually end the story. You left me hanging with a non-ending.
I didn't mind the moralization. It was a honest point you were making. The person who said that this (Harris' action against Sandy) was sexual harassment was correct.
And, the protag and her buddy coulda/shoulda begun an investigation on their own. They merely had to get a list of the wives of the salespeople (following through on your supposition that this was not just a Sandy issue) and talk candidly with each of their wives. Or, for that matter, intercede on behalf of Sandy with Sandy's husband so that he will at least know her side (and the protag's rationalization) of why she "sacrificed" her fidelity for her family.
Moralistically I don't agree with what Harris did, but as a writer you need to have a conflict to overcome/defeat. His would have been a perfect vehicle for you to have the same thing happen to the protag's friend, or through investigation, to another salesman's wife. You dropped that ball. At least then, we could have had more of a erotic tale, but maybe you are not into writing erotica as much as introducing a thesis disguised as a complete story.
I gave you 3 out of 5.
Dear Kate12345675
For a woman with a brain please read "Bedroom Conversations" and "A Very Special Guy" and read about those women with brains. I write about dumb broads and dumb studs and it's more fun to mix them up.
Lynn
A woman with a brain?
PLease read "Bedroom Conversations"and "A very Special Guy" to read about a woman with a brain.
Lynn
Lynn
Kate was right. Few of your Loving Wives stories have intelligent women. They seem to think with what is between their legs. Almost a parody of themselves
This is a story?
Short, but meaningless.
and if once is not enough?
Great story! with a just right ending (for those who think otherwise - its all there. Read it again.)
Just the right length, never giving up too much, no getting emotionally overwrought...generally speaking a story well told.
Well done.
Well Written
As always, you do a great job!
Good story
I was hoping to get off from this story, but I KEPT reading even after recognizing that it wasn't like that. This story is GOOD!
And as a man, I have to admit that it's the truth, and I apologize ahead of time....
justified?
it seems that the wives tried to justify cheating on husbands, "to save thier family"! what total bullshit
Liked it !!!
I thought it was original. Blackmail isn't, but still the error was the husband's.
Other tapes exist ! Who will be promoted ? Will the once a month club continue?
Thanks Don
Just another exuse for a cheating whore
What a load of shit! "Men can't stand the truth about what their wives will go to save them." Wow, what a pathetic excuse for a cheating whore. And the husbands have to be the stupidest wimps ever.
Justify it any way you want -
- she's still a whore! Yeah, yeah, I read all that twaddle about doing what she has to do for her family. Baloney! She took the easy way out. She CHOSE to ignore her marriage vows rather than face financial hardships. Men, in this author's view, "can't stand the truth about what their wives will do for them under pressure" when the truth (at least in this story) is that the women can't stand the truth about what they are willing to do under pressure. Most wedding vows contain something along the lines of, "...richer or poorer, in sickness and in health, forsaking all others." Apparently it's the man's fault for believing their wedding vows are more important than their income level. Thankfully, I know enough Kansans to know that Lynn G is a minority there.
Loved it
Another very good story
Very good story - well written and certainly got people talking!
@ angiquesophie - LOL!! @Duna - EXCELLENT idea! @everyone who's raving about WHORES - chill, it's a story. Unfortunately I'm sure it's happened irl to more than a few, and I'm sure there was a wide range of outcomes. Before going off on a rant, consider how materialistic you are and how important that may be to your spouse. Do they KNOW you'd chance losing your job for them and NOT hate them for it? Hmmm, if you have doubts, maybe you need to make clear what is REALLY most important, to yourself, and your partner!
I liked this story
It is a true short story, one that it says what it needs to in a short time..I initially was confused at the end, but then realized what was going on (when her friend says "who else has been on the sales team that long, which is their husbands). If Lynne wanted to take this another way, the women very well would realize the others were involved, talk, and find a way to get the scumbag, and there are plenty of ways. Even if it was consensual fucking, the lawyer in question is an idiot, because a boss having sex with the wife of a direct report is automatically guilty of harassment if someone files a complaint, it would take a miracle to prove it was otherwise, because he had power over the woman in question (same with having sex with a direct report, you have to be a first class moron to do that).
But taking it as Sandy wrote it, it is interesting to read the reactions. What the women were doing is stupid in many ways, they weren't powerless, but you can at least understand the reasoning. If the boss was some hot young stud, instead of some slob, you might be able to say they were simply sluts fucking around, but the description is they tolerated it (btw, having an orgasm doesn't prove a woman like it, despite what Faux News nation believes..women who are abused or raped will orgasm, their body can do it whether they enjoy it or not, and it causes the victim shame). At best,they were mistake
What is also interesting is that the raving anons and such castigate the women for doing this, while totally overlooking what the husband's did, they put their wives into that position, they gave that slimeball power of their wife and their job by doing something unethical and quite frankly illegal (forgery with intent to deceive is a criminal act, and the fact that that act of forgery cost the company money on a service contract is also theft of services). To maintain their jobs, the men did exactly what the wives did, they broke the law, they violated ethical principles, cheated, to try and get ahead. But I am sure the Faux News watchers on here will say that is different, that they were trying to preserve their jobs, etc. Buddy didn't even give Sandy a chance to explain, he decided to let a long marriage break up without even hearing the facts, or that he himself was partially to blame. The ironic part is if the wife had said no to buddy, their husband would have lost their job, the same fate if they hadn't have cheated in the first place..but it is okay for the man to commit an ethical and legal violation to save his job, but because it was sex, it is burn the bitch..hypocritical isn't even the word. But oh, wait, they were 'providing for their family'..so when the wife does it, it is crass materialism, richer or poorer, etc, but when the husband breaks more then a few commandments and law, he is forgiven, right.
The other thing that is sorely missing with the kill the slut crowd is the supervisor, Clark, they are universally silent. So blackmailing a wife into have sex with him is perfectly okay, and if it happens, it is the 'slut's' fault? The guy broke numerous laws, put his company in jeopardy of being financially hurt, but the women are the evil ones? I know you middle america, GOP base, tea bagger types see things in a perverted way, but holy shit, whatever happened to 'morality is morality'....or are you going to give me what the religious droolers have decided, that if a person is put in a position of authority, God put them there, so to hell with that?
I wonder if someone wrote a story where the wife was working, had done something on the edge legally, and boss blackmailed husband into having sex, to keep wife's job, and the wife finds out and divorces H, what the righteous types would say? I seem to recall stories like that, and more then a few posters put the blame on the wife for not listening to him, or for cheating in the first place.
Lynne, nice job....I could see a follow on (just me) where Buddy the oh so blind gets wind of what happened, and Sandy wises up and goes after the company for what happened, and maybe they reconcile, but that is me..but as it stands, really well written.
As If...
As if the women would continue fucking him when the could get him caught pretty easily, caught by the law! He communicated with his whores about where to meet him. A call to the authorities could have him caught.....Recording phone calls from him might add to their credbility as well.
You are one fucked up bitch!!!
Stop writing you are demented and sick!!!
Well written story
I guess the moral of the story is "watch your back Jack or Jane". Especially in this day and age where everyone seems to be recording everything. You never know when what you do or say is bring recorded. Just remember - revenge can be a harsh mistress.
Intense Story
I does not surprise me that a wife would do anything to save her husband and family. Women can also be cunning and vicious in protecting their families. It is just a shame that the women in this story, knowing how men are, would not either fight back, or inform their husbands and fight back together. Well written story. Thanks
Very good, a cut above the usual on Lit.
Your storytelling skills and writing are very good, Lynn, on another level altogether compared to the usual on Lit. I hope you keep writing. I always enjoy your work.
Second time through...
Still five stars and still a favorite. Not sure if there are many stories that have made me think as much as this one.
Compromisers
These wives clearly valued money more than their husbands emotional well being. They were willing to risk it to keep their money. They also had no faith in their husbands ability to provide for them in a minor adverse circumstance. All they'd have to do is tell the bastard to go ahead and fire their husband. Then she'd tell her husband what he tried to do and her husband would kill him. Sure her husband might go to jail but it wouldn't matter because their finances were already ruined. So go ahead, fire him and die.
Oh My, Oh My!
All of this outrage and indignation, It's been a long time since I read this story and it's as good as it was before. I get it. It's an uncomfortable thought about what a person could or would do when his/her home is in jeopardy. You've got kids and times are tough; your whole life could fall into chaos and homelessness is right around the corner.
As a guy, I wonder about this: Let's say you're the husband and you find out about your boss's predatory habit. Could you arrange an accident for him? Could you make sure he'd NEVER come back to work? Would it be wrong? Of course.
But I could understand it.
Remember -- Adultery is only ONE of the ten commandments. Even in homicides there can be mitigating circumstances.
Sick a private investigator on him
It'd be pretty easy to get him followed and get incriminating photos identifying all of his victims. At that point, the matter could be turned over to the police or the employer sued. His position would be awkward enough that he could be forced to leave town for fear of litigation, unemployability or outright lynching in the public square at high noon. Once the secret is out, no reason to remain silent any more.
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