he is not teaching her anything, just abusing her.
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Anonymous03/12/13
What happened? Is this the same writer?
I loved the first couple of chapters....but the last few have gone drastically off course. In an earlier chapter you highlight that she is new to this and conversations need to happen. I don't recall this happening... She mentions the need to study over the weekend. I don't see him supporting this nor is he looking after her needs. He has become mean and abusive. No longer enjoyable
First of all, let me say that I agree with the readers who found this chapter a bit much, though I'm surprised by the intensity of the reaction, since this series has been posted here before, as well as elsewhere, and this chapter has never drawn much response one way or the other. . But I must admit that Ch. 7 has never been a favorite of mine.
My co-author on this series, lamignonne, was always much harder on Marie than I would have been if I'd been writing on my own, Lamignonne is a deep-dyed submissive herself, and apparently the scenario for this chapter was a long-held fantasy of hers. And I went along with it because I was interested in exploring how Marie would do without her Master's direct presence and influence, and because it provided a kind of break after the intensity of the preceding chapters.
But I will say that there is more conversation in Ch. 8, and that Marie and her Master do discuss what took place in Ch. 7, and resolve some things (though probably not to every reader's preference) before moving on to the next level of her training.
Love the story thus far, and though I do not agree that the housekeeping is too much, or teaches nothing, I do think it happened too fast. A seasoned slave may have to do something similar imo but not someone in their first few days. Takes some of the realism out of thing.
Please do continue! I can't wait for the next chapter. Also, I love the play on the Sleeping Beauty series.
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Anonymous03/13/13
glad co-author recognizes the difficulty here
While it is great to get the view point of a 'deep dyed' submissive-this is a NOVICE. I wish the dom/co-author had recognized the problem and adjusted the chapter accordingly. He had already been pushing hard and fast in previous chapters. That she has not safeworded is a testatment to her desperation and inexperience. Again, where is the protection of the experienced dom here? He seems so thrilled with his shiny new toy he doesn't see he is in danger of breaking it. Makes me want to spank him with a rolled up newspaper-bad dom, bad boy!
I'm glad to see that this story has inspired so much conversation - it's always gratifying to an author to know that something he wrote (or in this case helped to write) is making people think and react.
I'd just like to respond to the very valid point made by Anonymous: In a real-life D/s relationship things should never move along anything like as fast as they do in this series, and there should certainly be a clear understanding about boundaries, use of safe-words and so forth. And if "The Bookstore" had been intended as a realistic depiction of such a relationship then certainly more attention would have been paid to those details.
But "The Bookstore" is just erotic fantasy, even if the characters may have a little more depth than is usual for the genre. And I'd say it's an unusual submissive who hasn't at one time or another fantasized about encountering a Dom (or Domme) who would just intuitively know what they want without a word being spoken, and act accordingly. Pushing them to their limits and then just far enough beyond.
(Subs? Am I wrong here?)
This doesn't mean they would want this to happen in real life, of course, but that's what fantasy is all about: wish-fulfillment without any of reality's rough edges. This particular fantasy may not appeal to everyone, but that's true of pretty much every fantasy, don't you think?
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Anonymous03/13/13
author is not wrong
It is not just fantasy, but a real desire, be it sub or vanilla partner, to be known so well by one's partner, to have wants and needs, known and unknown, satisfied. Fully acknowledging this is a story, a fantasy, it has been developed with such a sense of realism that things which are not realistic jar it off the tracks. Those things interrupt the fantasy...the moment of 'wait, what?' that does not further the story, but rends it. When writing an obvious fantasy, light hearted or dark, anything can be thrown into the blowing fan. Writing at such a level of realism is a delicate thing, easy to break. I would say that overall, you do it well.
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Anonymous05/24/13
please explain
Sorry, I'm inexperienced in this genre. What does "deep dyed" mean?
English
I'm so glad ur reposting thesde stories and ar going to finish it cuz I really like them keep it up tytyty
I'm turning off him...
He just seems like an absolute arse now.
Ah, not just me...... . It's now just all about pushing degradation buttons. Not seeing any other value for either party.
Agree totally
he is not teaching her anything, just abusing her.
What happened? Is this the same writer?
I loved the first couple of chapters....but the last few have gone drastically off course. In an earlier chapter you highlight that she is new to this and conversations need to happen. I don't recall this happening... She mentions the need to study over the weekend. I don't see him supporting this nor is he looking after her needs. He has become mean and abusive. No longer enjoyable
From the Author
First of all, let me say that I agree with the readers who found this chapter a bit much, though I'm surprised by the intensity of the reaction, since this series has been posted here before, as well as elsewhere, and this chapter has never drawn much response one way or the other. . But I must admit that Ch. 7 has never been a favorite of mine.
My co-author on this series, lamignonne, was always much harder on Marie than I would have been if I'd been writing on my own, Lamignonne is a deep-dyed submissive herself, and apparently the scenario for this chapter was a long-held fantasy of hers. And I went along with it because I was interested in exploring how Marie would do without her Master's direct presence and influence, and because it provided a kind of break after the intensity of the preceding chapters.
But I will say that there is more conversation in Ch. 8, and that Marie and her Master do discuss what took place in Ch. 7, and resolve some things (though probably not to every reader's preference) before moving on to the next level of her training.
like it
Love the story thus far, and though I do not agree that the housekeeping is too much, or teaches nothing, I do think it happened too fast. A seasoned slave may have to do something similar imo but not someone in their first few days. Takes some of the realism out of thing.
Please do continue! I can't wait for the next chapter. Also, I love the play on the Sleeping Beauty series.
glad co-author recognizes the difficulty here
While it is great to get the view point of a 'deep dyed' submissive-this is a NOVICE. I wish the dom/co-author had recognized the problem and adjusted the chapter accordingly. He had already been pushing hard and fast in previous chapters. That she has not safeworded is a testatment to her desperation and inexperience. Again, where is the protection of the experienced dom here? He seems so thrilled with his shiny new toy he doesn't see he is in danger of breaking it. Makes me want to spank him with a rolled up newspaper-bad dom, bad boy!
From the Author, Pt. 2
I'm glad to see that this story has inspired so much conversation - it's always gratifying to an author to know that something he wrote (or in this case helped to write) is making people think and react.
I'd just like to respond to the very valid point made by Anonymous: In a real-life D/s relationship things should never move along anything like as fast as they do in this series, and there should certainly be a clear understanding about boundaries, use of safe-words and so forth. And if "The Bookstore" had been intended as a realistic depiction of such a relationship then certainly more attention would have been paid to those details.
But "The Bookstore" is just erotic fantasy, even if the characters may have a little more depth than is usual for the genre. And I'd say it's an unusual submissive who hasn't at one time or another fantasized about encountering a Dom (or Domme) who would just intuitively know what they want without a word being spoken, and act accordingly. Pushing them to their limits and then just far enough beyond.
(Subs? Am I wrong here?)
This doesn't mean they would want this to happen in real life, of course, but that's what fantasy is all about: wish-fulfillment without any of reality's rough edges. This particular fantasy may not appeal to everyone, but that's true of pretty much every fantasy, don't you think?
author is not wrong
It is not just fantasy, but a real desire, be it sub or vanilla partner, to be known so well by one's partner, to have wants and needs, known and unknown, satisfied. Fully acknowledging this is a story, a fantasy, it has been developed with such a sense of realism that things which are not realistic jar it off the tracks. Those things interrupt the fantasy...the moment of 'wait, what?' that does not further the story, but rends it. When writing an obvious fantasy, light hearted or dark, anything can be thrown into the blowing fan. Writing at such a level of realism is a delicate thing, easy to break. I would say that overall, you do it well.
please explain
Sorry, I'm inexperienced in this genre. What does "deep dyed" mean?
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