Well thought out, I just thought after chapter one that they would reconcile, I never would have seen the deeper issue that he saw, that he could never again trust his "happy" memories.....pretty sad!
I have felt for a long time that the first installment of this tale was one of the best-crafted stories I've found on this site. I would not have thought it needed a sequel, but you have managed to surprise me with how apt a follow-on you have created.
I have long felt that infidelity is fundamentally a narcissistic act, in that the unfaithful spouse is subordinating commitments and obligations to his or her partner to the gratification of individual desires. This is generally accompanied with all sorts of rationalizations justifying the behavior. You have illustrated this whole concept perfectly here.
I gather that some authors despair of writing for LW because the vast majority of the readers here seen intent on lambasting any story where an unfaithful spouse does not suffer a fate worthy of an unexpurgated tale from the Brothers Grimm. (I've not yet seen a cheating wife nailed into a barrel lined with iron spikes and rolled down a hillside into a river, but the week isn't over yet.) But it remains my favorite genre here, in no little part because of the broad scope it grants the author to create dramatic tension and then find a resolution. With "Romance" or "Erotic Couplings," one can pretty much guess the outcome of a story when it begins. In LW, one can never be quite so certain.
Finally, allow me to say that even those of your stories I have read which were not to my taste were well-written and well-crafted, which makes them stand out from much of the material available at Literotica. And I will admit to having an ulterior motive in making this comment: I hope it will provide some encouragement, and ultimately, more well-crafted stories.
This remarkable story could well have been written by a professional Family Counselor. It is that good and that authentic sounding.
I hope the next chapter will be posted soon.
by
Anonymous03/21/13
nicely done
very well thought out! Your story did a great job showing people the complexities of an affair! Thank you
by
Anonymous03/21/13
of course
this is a long tale starting with RADK" Statue of Limitations" read them all dear friends and it all makes more sense....of the Dr who started it all? has his widow found peace.....I wonder....I wonder
Reinforces the notion that all you do as half of a marriage must be done with the consideration of both parties and you need to believe that you are no longer singular in any way. If not, dont get married and for certain dont have kids cause then your relly not living a life of just yourself.
Lynn, your skills just keep increasing with each story; you're becoming a master of your craft. This reads like somebody's true-life experience, not like fiction. I can feel the pain of them both, and the frustration of their counselor as well. Probably your most thoughtful pieces to date. And hardly a four-letter word in it! Very well done indeed! I await part three eagerly!
by
Anonymous03/21/13
Great Read!
This story speaks to each of us that have gone through this type of tragedy. Each of us get over things differently in it's own time. Somethings will immediately bring back a memory. How we learn to deal with it is up to us.
by
Anonymous03/21/13
Excellent
Carefully drawn portrait of two ordinary people caught up in the twists of life. Three, if you count the therapist who had no more absolute control than her clients. No psycho babble, no soap opera. And no comic book Rambo doing a symbolic massacre of all of Al Quaida by throwing the cheating bitch to the curb.
To be continued... So many ways this story could go. Life in condo village will make lot's and lot's of new women available to the cheated husband. Every woman there will have had five husbands at least, and have a sexual history that makes the cheating wife look like Snow White. He will learn. But what exactly does he learn? etc.
Some paths must be walked before a map can be drawn.
The first time you walk that path the eyes can only see so much, the ears only hear some things, and the nose can only smell certain aromas. The second time all senses show additonal information as each step is taken.
Add time and the brain replays sensual infomation in which it attempts to logically determine what is really real. When emotions are added along with sensual input from an additional source. . . WHAT IS REALITY?
Life and its illusions open, close and change. Lynn has presented a complex story filled with life as two people joined through a vow discarded by one. Time emotion and physical documentation offer teased glimpses of what was.
The quality of what is written stands because a witness saw the blood flow. . . .
I'm surprised there is another installment, it seems like a good ending right here, but these are so well written I can't wait for the next chapter; you get 5 from me.
This was a nice follow up to your first chapter. Since it will be continuing I am guessing you have more to reveal. It seems like she is just beginning to understand what her decisions actually did to others.
What a wonderful surprise to have this sequel to a truly heart wrenching story. I would have given a higher rating if possible. The anticipation of another follow up is a very special treat.
Thank you for a trust great effort.
It's interesting how this story sort of dovetails with Revelations that was posted the other day. We know this had to have been written before that was posted because it takes Lit so long to post a story. Lynn points out the problem we are facing in the other story. The wife is not repentant and fails to understand what she has stolen from her husband. If he had known at the time, he would have done many things differently over the past many years. Lynn shows us that she understands the pain that betrayal and contempt in a marriage can create. She gets it. There was no silver bullet to save the marriage. How could there be? I am curious to see how Revelation handles almost the exact same situation. How do you return respect to a man? How do you give him back the years he feels he lost? Well written story about the crux of the cheating side of LW stories. Lynn is scary smart at times. I bet she can cook, too!
I always enjoy your writing (even if I don't always like your stories). First class.
I was affected by Statute of Limitations by Radk-the primary inspiration for this series.
I just read these two chapters. I liked that wife realized that she wasn't truly in love with the other man. However, I also thought it insightful that you focussed on the importance of her belief (for 23 years) that she was in love with him. That the fact of it tarnished all of their memories thereafter.
Which begs the question: if, after her lover had died, she would have come clean and told hubby the truth, and they had gone to counselling, etc., would the marriage have been more likely to survive?
I like the idea that the wife's "love" (or rather perceived love) for the other guy was the killer-not the sex.
The fantasizing angle is interesting. I fantasize about old lovers from time to time when with my wife; I assume she does the same (I don't particularly want to know about it). But, I don't fantasize about "making love" to them, just fucking them. That is a big difference. This "other love" has been very present for the whole last 23 years of their marriage. She was in love with a ghost (literally and figuratively).
One thing that didn't work for me in this story was the pavlovian training by hubby. Such negative reinforcement might cause him to stop thinking about her, but wouldn't bring him to a state of peaceful good-will towards the ex-wife. If anything, he would just become unmindful of her; reacting to his son's mention of her with mild distaste.
Enough rambling. 5 stars, and curious about where you go from here.
Are we to get her self delusional story? Not needed.
I really liked your writing on this one.
Thanks
by
Anonymous03/21/13
I wanted to like this story. It has so much going for it; but I couldn't.
You have written the wife, as so many authors do, as a complete moron. A 59 yr old giggling like a teenager?
This woman has lived a lifetime. She has loved and lost, she helped raise children and run a household. She watched as her children grew up and saw them break hearts and have their hearts broken; but instead of writing about a mature woman, you write her as though she was 16 and no brain cells.
You are a better author than that.
by
Anonymous03/21/13
Outstanding climax
The climax is the best reveal of a genuine insight I have ever read. This is a small, short story told in a clinical voice, but the author handles nuanced psychological experiences as masterfully as I have seen.
If you don't love me and want to fuck other people - okay, If you love me and you want to fuck other people - okay, just show me some respect and common courtesy let me know in advance so I can make my choices. The trouble with cheating, is not really that the other person does not care very much about you, it is the deception, the disrespect, and the theft of your marital rights and time. Even if it happened 20 years ago, the passage of time continues to compound the debt like interest on a loan not repaid. I give Lynn credit for not taking an amoral, feminist stance in this tale. In the past her stories have seemed to treat the male characters as if there was something wrong with them for being upset with a cheating wife.
by
Anonymous03/21/13
Well written.
The story is sad but has the ring of truth. I know it is fiction but even fiction comes from real human experience. This story explores events, motives, feelings and relationships in ways that are true to life for some couples. Good job.
This story is wonderful, but I thought that before. I wonder what you could have added to make it more complete. I couldn't think of anything. But I have the same opinion now. So if you want to continue it, I'll continue reading it. Great job.
Lynn, I'm surprised you came back to this since it was a long time ago that you posted the first chapter, but I'm glad you did. This is a well-executed story on a topic I particularly like, the post-failed-relationship "learn and move on" process. So, I appreciate this story and I look forward to the next installment - but I hope we don't have to wait until 2016 for it!
by
Anonymous03/21/13
Mathematics and Literature
Do the math!
The second chapter follows the first by more then 1000 days,
the next should appear approximately in December 2015.
The story is really good but is due to mathematics that we can already say what the title "A Long Time Ago"
really means!
StangStar got all soft and mushy on us! The husband still has time to hire someone to brutalize the helpless wife. Give the therapist a hot tar bath while their at it.
A very fascinating story. I must admit Dave is a strong male character in this chapter. One who has moved forward with his life. He worked through his sadness, and it appears is very happy living in Watercolor.
Mary is still clinging to what was and won't let go of the past, in more ways than one.
I certainly hope you do not weaken his resolve in the next chapter, but would like to see Mary find some modicum of peace.
Although once again she tells him she is sorry that she hurt him, but has never yet apologized for cheating on him.
Perhaps with that, she could find her way.
A reconciliation for me is unlikely because of twenty years of lies. But I have been wrong before.
Thank you, 5*****
M1
We male people die earlier, the husbands are older than the wife generaly. So to find a constant mate for a good guy is easier than a woman to find a GOOD GUY in Mary and David age group!!!!!!! Naturaly in the matematical statistic likelihood............
To find WRONG GUY EASY!!!! Drug abuser, violant abuser, alcolic abuser, gambling abuser, serial cheater, etc..........
by
Anonymous03/22/13
Excellent
Lynn I really enjoy when you start to put together a story that makes people think. I know it is more a follow up or a new ending to some stories on this site, but well done.
A great tale. A psychologist's dream. He moved on, and he was the one betrayed. She, however, still lives in the past. The question is, who's past? Her lover or her husbands? Stay tuned for ch. 3, it's gonna be good.
The only problem I see in this well written story is that I don't give a rats ass about this cheating fucking cunt, don't want her to get help, don't want her to get well, and I want her so miserable that she tries to kill herself, botches the job, and spends the rest of her life mentally insane and locked into a totally non responsive body, drifting deeper into mental hell. Oups, did I say that outloud? It is still a 5.
This is a bit heavy for my simple mind! But, of course, well written and thought out. I think I shall have to read it a couple of times...and I look forward to the next instalment...thanks!
by
Anonymous03/22/13
Nice story
Hi Lynn, as usual a well written story, but I have to agree with others, the woman doesn't really deserve sympathy from anyone. At this point I really don't know how you get a little redemption out of her. Also, this isn't the kind of story I come to Literotica to read.
Having said that, I'll still read whatever it is you want to write because I do enjoy your writing.
T
by
Anonymous03/22/13
I assume that this is a follow on to "Statute of limitations" that appeared in the romance section.
The original was one of the most touching stories I have read on WL. Your subsequent stories are good as well. I am hoping that the original author or another writer will pick up the thread. Perhaps you will keep it alive. This is too intriguing a tale to let die.
I agree with several others that the second chapter is a quality follow-through of Ch.1! It is easy for people to spout platitudes in order to placate others and to avoid thinking about their real motives.
A semantic quibble. There is Punishment and there is Negative Reinforcement! They are NOT the same thing. Nowhere close. What Hubby was doing was Punishment! Self-administered, yes, but punishment. The intent of punishment is to eliminate a behavior. The intent of Negative Reinforcement is to increase the frequency of a behavior. Punishment involves administering an unpleasant experience in order to stop something, which is exactly what Hubby describes! The term 'punishment' sounds harsh and unpleasant...Negative Reinforcement sounds much more genteel, but is NOT a nicer synonym for Punishment! The efficacy of punishment is open to considerable debate... it is a very 'wiggly' technique to employ and get the result you really want; and without unintended consequences! Negative Reinforcement, when the right conditions obtain, is much more straightforward (but it doesn't do the same thing)!
now wait just a second anon 0322 - i did not say torture her, i said i did not give a rats ass what happened to her and i did not care if - . . . read the statement. she was a cheating whore who stole 20 years of his life and the fact he found out later does not mean she did not do it. i just dont care about her problems as a character. she means less than shit to me as a character so i dont give a fuck what happens to her and how upset she is. she had her 20+ year secret mental love affair after a real one for three years - and now she is payng for it. i did not say to hurt her i just dont think he should help her at all.
I've enjoyed your story. My true experience is very different from your story but there is one overreaching similarity: I have continued to love my partner for the rest of my life and my wife is aware of that. For anyone interested in reading my story, it is titled "My Fantasy Girl" in the Romance section.
So Good!
This story rates very highly in my mind. I feel deeply about both of them and look forward with pleasure (and trepidation) to the next chapter.
Very Good
Well thought out, I just thought after chapter one that they would reconcile, I never would have seen the deeper issue that he saw, that he could never again trust his "happy" memories.....pretty sad!
I agreed with comment made by DRALL. This was a well written story and will be waiting to see the next chapter to come out.
well done!
Well written, and once again you have done a fine job of capturing his mindset. Thanks for the stories.
A LynnGKS story I can live with
Lady this was fucking great..........."5'*****"
I have felt for a long time that the first installment of this tale was one of the best-crafted stories I've found on this site. I would not have thought it needed a sequel, but you have managed to surprise me with how apt a follow-on you have created.
I have long felt that infidelity is fundamentally a narcissistic act, in that the unfaithful spouse is subordinating commitments and obligations to his or her partner to the gratification of individual desires. This is generally accompanied with all sorts of rationalizations justifying the behavior. You have illustrated this whole concept perfectly here.
I gather that some authors despair of writing for LW because the vast majority of the readers here seen intent on lambasting any story where an unfaithful spouse does not suffer a fate worthy of an unexpurgated tale from the Brothers Grimm. (I've not yet seen a cheating wife nailed into a barrel lined with iron spikes and rolled down a hillside into a river, but the week isn't over yet.) But it remains my favorite genre here, in no little part because of the broad scope it grants the author to create dramatic tension and then find a resolution. With "Romance" or "Erotic Couplings," one can pretty much guess the outcome of a story when it begins. In LW, one can never be quite so certain.
Finally, allow me to say that even those of your stories I have read which were not to my taste were well-written and well-crafted, which makes them stand out from much of the material available at Literotica. And I will admit to having an ulterior motive in making this comment: I hope it will provide some encouragement, and ultimately, more well-crafted stories.
Rare
Very Rare for a Part II to be as good a read as Part I, and even Rarer for this to be so good when based on another tale....but you did it.
Quite a feat you pulled off LGK! Going to be a neat trick to now do a triple.
Thanks for your efforts, looking forward to III
The notation, "to be continued" is good news.
This remarkable story could well have been written by a professional Family Counselor. It is that good and that authentic sounding.
I hope the next chapter will be posted soon.
nicely done
very well thought out! Your story did a great job showing people the complexities of an affair! Thank you
of course
this is a long tale starting with RADK" Statue of Limitations" read them all dear friends and it all makes more sense....of the Dr who started it all? has his widow found peace.....I wonder....I wonder
I'm just waiting to see how long before you cut his balls off.
Nicely done
Reinforces the notion that all you do as half of a marriage must be done with the consideration of both parties and you need to believe that you are no longer singular in any way. If not, dont get married and for certain dont have kids cause then your relly not living a life of just yourself.
So good...
Lynn, your skills just keep increasing with each story; you're becoming a master of your craft. This reads like somebody's true-life experience, not like fiction. I can feel the pain of them both, and the frustration of their counselor as well. Probably your most thoughtful pieces to date. And hardly a four-letter word in it! Very well done indeed! I await part three eagerly!
Great Read!
This story speaks to each of us that have gone through this type of tragedy. Each of us get over things differently in it's own time. Somethings will immediately bring back a memory. How we learn to deal with it is up to us.
Excellent
Carefully drawn portrait of two ordinary people caught up in the twists of life. Three, if you count the therapist who had no more absolute control than her clients. No psycho babble, no soap opera. And no comic book Rambo doing a symbolic massacre of all of Al Quaida by throwing the cheating bitch to the curb.
To be continued... So many ways this story could go. Life in condo village will make lot's and lot's of new women available to the cheated husband. Every woman there will have had five husbands at least, and have a sexual history that makes the cheating wife look like Snow White. He will learn. But what exactly does he learn? etc.
Good Read****
Now for the wait. lol
Well done Lynn. Great story so far!
Life makes you bleed. . .
Some paths must be walked before a map can be drawn.
The first time you walk that path the eyes can only see so much, the ears only hear some things, and the nose can only smell certain aromas. The second time all senses show additonal information as each step is taken.
Add time and the brain replays sensual infomation in which it attempts to logically determine what is really real. When emotions are added along with sensual input from an additional source. . . WHAT IS REALITY?
Life and its illusions open, close and change. Lynn has presented a complex story filled with life as two people joined through a vow discarded by one. Time emotion and physical documentation offer teased glimpses of what was.
The quality of what is written stands because a witness saw the blood flow. . . .
Thank you
Very nice follow up. Wonderfully written imo.
Very good...
I'm surprised there is another installment, it seems like a good ending right here, but these are so well written I can't wait for the next chapter; you get 5 from me.
Good job . . .
. . . bringing a new look at the emotion involved in an oft told story.
Nice follow up
This was a nice follow up to your first chapter. Since it will be continuing I am guessing you have more to reveal. It seems like she is just beginning to understand what her decisions actually did to others.
Thank you, thank you, thank you
What a wonderful surprise to have this sequel to a truly heart wrenching story. I would have given a higher rating if possible. The anticipation of another follow up is a very special treat.
Thank you for a trust great effort.
Revelations.
It's interesting how this story sort of dovetails with Revelations that was posted the other day. We know this had to have been written before that was posted because it takes Lit so long to post a story. Lynn points out the problem we are facing in the other story. The wife is not repentant and fails to understand what she has stolen from her husband. If he had known at the time, he would have done many things differently over the past many years. Lynn shows us that she understands the pain that betrayal and contempt in a marriage can create. She gets it. There was no silver bullet to save the marriage. How could there be? I am curious to see how Revelation handles almost the exact same situation. How do you return respect to a man? How do you give him back the years he feels he lost? Well written story about the crux of the cheating side of LW stories. Lynn is scary smart at times. I bet she can cook, too!
Wonderful
This is my kind of story. Please continue! Five stars...
Kudos, Lynn
I always enjoy your writing (even if I don't always like your stories). First class.
I was affected by Statute of Limitations by Radk-the primary inspiration for this series.
I just read these two chapters. I liked that wife realized that she wasn't truly in love with the other man. However, I also thought it insightful that you focussed on the importance of her belief (for 23 years) that she was in love with him. That the fact of it tarnished all of their memories thereafter.
Which begs the question: if, after her lover had died, she would have come clean and told hubby the truth, and they had gone to counselling, etc., would the marriage have been more likely to survive?
I like the idea that the wife's "love" (or rather perceived love) for the other guy was the killer-not the sex.
The fantasizing angle is interesting. I fantasize about old lovers from time to time when with my wife; I assume she does the same (I don't particularly want to know about it). But, I don't fantasize about "making love" to them, just fucking them. That is a big difference. This "other love" has been very present for the whole last 23 years of their marriage. She was in love with a ghost (literally and figuratively).
One thing that didn't work for me in this story was the pavlovian training by hubby. Such negative reinforcement might cause him to stop thinking about her, but wouldn't bring him to a state of peaceful good-will towards the ex-wife. If anything, he would just become unmindful of her; reacting to his son's mention of her with mild distaste.
Enough rambling. 5 stars, and curious about where you go from here.
What's To Continue?
This five star story seems complete as written.
Are we to get her self delusional story? Not needed.
I really liked your writing on this one.
Thanks
I wanted to like this story. It has so much going for it; but I couldn't.
You have written the wife, as so many authors do, as a complete moron. A 59 yr old giggling like a teenager?
This woman has lived a lifetime. She has loved and lost, she helped raise children and run a household. She watched as her children grew up and saw them break hearts and have their hearts broken; but instead of writing about a mature woman, you write her as though she was 16 and no brain cells.
You are a better author than that.
Outstanding climax
The climax is the best reveal of a genuine insight I have ever read. This is a small, short story told in a clinical voice, but the author handles nuanced psychological experiences as masterfully as I have seen.
Thank you.
Cheated out time
If you don't love me and want to fuck other people - okay, If you love me and you want to fuck other people - okay, just show me some respect and common courtesy let me know in advance so I can make my choices. The trouble with cheating, is not really that the other person does not care very much about you, it is the deception, the disrespect, and the theft of your marital rights and time. Even if it happened 20 years ago, the passage of time continues to compound the debt like interest on a loan not repaid. I give Lynn credit for not taking an amoral, feminist stance in this tale. In the past her stories have seemed to treat the male characters as if there was something wrong with them for being upset with a cheating wife.
Well written.
The story is sad but has the ring of truth. I know it is fiction but even fiction comes from real human experience. This story explores events, motives, feelings and relationships in ways that are true to life for some couples. Good job.
I agree with the other poster
This story is wonderful, but I thought that before. I wonder what you could have added to make it more complete. I couldn't think of anything. But I have the same opinion now. So if you want to continue it, I'll continue reading it. Great job.
Thanks for re-visiting.
Lynn, I'm surprised you came back to this since it was a long time ago that you posted the first chapter, but I'm glad you did. This is a well-executed story on a topic I particularly like, the post-failed-relationship "learn and move on" process. So, I appreciate this story and I look forward to the next installment - but I hope we don't have to wait until 2016 for it!
Mathematics and Literature
Do the math!
The second chapter follows the first by more then 1000 days,
the next should appear approximately in December 2015.
The story is really good but is due to mathematics that we can already say what the title "A Long Time Ago"
really means!
OMG!!!!!
StangStar got all soft and mushy on us! The husband still has time to hire someone to brutalize the helpless wife. Give the therapist a hot tar bath while their at it.
Very poignant
A very fascinating story. I must admit Dave is a strong male character in this chapter. One who has moved forward with his life. He worked through his sadness, and it appears is very happy living in Watercolor.
Mary is still clinging to what was and won't let go of the past, in more ways than one.
I certainly hope you do not weaken his resolve in the next chapter, but would like to see Mary find some modicum of peace.
Although once again she tells him she is sorry that she hurt him, but has never yet apologized for cheating on him.
Perhaps with that, she could find her way.
A reconciliation for me is unlikely because of twenty years of lies. But I have been wrong before.
Thank you, 5*****
M1
Matematic statistical likely!!!!!!!!!
We male people die earlier, the husbands are older than the wife generaly. So to find a constant mate for a good guy is easier than a woman to find a GOOD GUY in Mary and David age group!!!!!!! Naturaly in the matematical statistic likelihood............
5*****
To find WRONG GUY EASY!!!! Drug abuser, violant abuser, alcolic abuser, gambling abuser, serial cheater, etc..........
Excellent
Lynn I really enjoy when you start to put together a story that makes people think. I know it is more a follow up or a new ending to some stories on this site, but well done.
I look forward to more. 5*'s
Very well done, what else can I say.
Excellent
A great tale. A psychologist's dream. He moved on, and he was the one betrayed. She, however, still lives in the past. The question is, who's past? Her lover or her husbands? Stay tuned for ch. 3, it's gonna be good.
Thank you
Hi Lynn
I really enjoyed reading this story. Thank you.
The only problem I see in this well written story is that I don't give a rats ass about this cheating fucking cunt, don't want her to get help, don't want her to get well, and I want her so miserable that she tries to kill herself, botches the job, and spends the rest of her life mentally insane and locked into a totally non responsive body, drifting deeper into mental hell. Oups, did I say that outloud? It is still a 5.
I always thought Radk should have done more with this ..
But did you get his permission ?
Serious Stuff..
This is a bit heavy for my simple mind! But, of course, well written and thought out. I think I shall have to read it a couple of times...and I look forward to the next instalment...thanks!
Nice story
Hi Lynn, as usual a well written story, but I have to agree with others, the woman doesn't really deserve sympathy from anyone. At this point I really don't know how you get a little redemption out of her. Also, this isn't the kind of story I come to Literotica to read.
Having said that, I'll still read whatever it is you want to write because I do enjoy your writing.
T
I assume that this is a follow on to "Statute of limitations" that appeared in the romance section.
The original was one of the most touching stories I have read on WL. Your subsequent stories are good as well. I am hoping that the original author or another writer will pick up the thread. Perhaps you will keep it alive. This is too intriguing a tale to let die.
Good read
I agree with several others that the second chapter is a quality follow-through of Ch.1! It is easy for people to spout platitudes in order to placate others and to avoid thinking about their real motives.
A semantic quibble. There is Punishment and there is Negative Reinforcement! They are NOT the same thing. Nowhere close. What Hubby was doing was Punishment! Self-administered, yes, but punishment. The intent of punishment is to eliminate a behavior. The intent of Negative Reinforcement is to increase the frequency of a behavior. Punishment involves administering an unpleasant experience in order to stop something, which is exactly what Hubby describes! The term 'punishment' sounds harsh and unpleasant...Negative Reinforcement sounds much more genteel, but is NOT a nicer synonym for Punishment! The efficacy of punishment is open to considerable debate... it is a very 'wiggly' technique to employ and get the result you really want; and without unintended consequences! Negative Reinforcement, when the right conditions obtain, is much more straightforward (but it doesn't do the same thing)!
now wait just a second anon 0322 - i did not say torture her, i said i did not give a rats ass what happened to her and i did not care if - . . . read the statement. she was a cheating whore who stole 20 years of his life and the fact he found out later does not mean she did not do it. i just dont care about her problems as a character. she means less than shit to me as a character so i dont give a fuck what happens to her and how upset she is. she had her 20+ year secret mental love affair after a real one for three years - and now she is payng for it. i did not say to hurt her i just dont think he should help her at all.
Different but similar
I've enjoyed your story. My true experience is very different from your story but there is one overreaching similarity: I have continued to love my partner for the rest of my life and my wife is aware of that. For anyone interested in reading my story, it is titled "My Fantasy Girl" in the Romance section.
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