OK I really have to say this.It apears like a sweet story but...This is what I see when I read it.A bunch of people taking advantage of an ignorant girl, manipulating her without her choice and consent.Is that what BDSM is really about?Yes I am aware it's just a story but I can't help thinking it's a cruel and cheap one.
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Anonymous06/07/13
I love this story!
Will you write about Gabriel and Vivian's wedding? Will there be a follow-up story about their marriage?
Should be posted in ''The butt, and nothing but''.
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Anonymous06/07/13
You're such a bad ass ;)
Every single little protest sound goes straight down in Banks notebook!!!!!! Give the kid a break. As if she knows what shes into.
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Anonymous06/07/13
Marriage Training?
Try 'Ass Training'
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Anonymous06/07/13
The only...
butts I read are these anon a$$holes who flame this extremely successful author. I can only speculate that you are either jealous of her highly successful portfolio or just mean and vengeful. If you don't like -- don't read. But why bother to post negative comments -- unless it's just to bore the rest of us. Maybe your own boring lives aren't enough for you.
Interesting chapter! Glad to hear more of the future hubby's POV , am glad he seems to care about her it makes him a bit more human. Enjoyable read. Thanks. M.
I can see your point about the manipulation of her choices... but you must remember that in the Victorian era women's choices WERE manipulated like this. The upper classes had arranged marriages and women often were married to men far older than themselves or cruel men who would beat/cane them as domestic discipline was both used and encouraged for children and recalcitrant wives.
Vivian, as a character, is naturally submissive. She appeared in my head that way and the more the story goes on the more I've come to realize exactly how much more submissive she is than I expected. While she's unsure about some of the things that are happening to her, she does enjoy them.
As to BDSM... it comes in all sorts of varieties and flavors... this is a brand that, because of the time period, borders on non-con/reluctance. If this isn't your flavor then I'm not sure why you've read all the way up to Ch. 7, but there are many other offerings by both myself and other authors that you are more than free to check out. Why waste your time on 7 chapters of this story unless it appeals to you?
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Anonymous06/08/13
Why I read all 7 chapters.
Because your writing style is amazing and I have enjoyed many of your stories.
Because I am not a mind reader and cannot know what I will be reading in advance, there's always a chance for a 'twist'.
I guess you made it clear there isn't.
Looking forwrd to your next story though.
It is unfortunate that some of those who cannot create on their own find it necessary to attempt to detract from those who can. You are an excellent writer. As a previous comments reminds us, earlier times were not our own and there were many different restrictions in place, especially on women. I think the character development is consistent with those and find the entire situation and circumstances to be well thought out. Keep writing. You do a wonderful job.
I appreciate you coming back and actually responding =) Sometimes I wonder if people do that.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "twist." Is Vivian going to suddenly turn around and turn into a spit fire? No. I can already tell you that. But there may be other things that people consider twists. Not entirely sure what kind of twist you might be looking for.
I'm almost done with After Bedtime and after that I'll be putting out a couple more standalone stories... Marriage Training has quite a few more chapters to go, but you can always vote on my next series - I usually have polls / ask for feedback on my blog: http://goldeniangel.blogspot.com/
If there's anything that you'd like to see in particular, please let me know, I do read all feedback even if I don't always respond and I try to incorporate requests and constructive criticisms into my writing. I'm glad to hear that you enjoy my stories even if this particular series isn't your cup of tea!
just wanted you to know i love the concept of this story. this definatly one of my favorites that you've done :-) can't wait for more
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Anonymous06/08/13
Dearest Goldeniangel
What the hell happened here??? Your story is amazing! How could anyone get to 7 and not get it??? Victorian era was so repressed they could to nothing else but become skilled in BDSM. And very true, anal was practiced, often, as a method of sex out the issue of birth, though there was herbs, bottom line the pill did not exist.
Yea, yea, yea...poor thing, innocent, coerced, blame her family to start they pretty much sold her to him. Then there was the common law that you could beat your wife, as she is your property, with a switch no wider than your thumb, for moderate correction or chastisement. Though not an actual law, judges used it and made it case law, how nice for us women. Then attach him wanting what he wants. Oh and the "ladies" making a living at their school so that they were not property of a man, duh I wonder why. Of course there's that gross doctor. That never happens in real life, some pervert of a man goes to medical school to see nake chicks, better yet they go into ob/gyn.
The list will go on and on of how Vivian got to this and why she is already submissive. And long before ch 7. Its a story. A damn fine one to boot.
Thank you.
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Anonymous06/08/13
My thoughts on your story Marriage Training
This story is very hot. The progressive training of Vivian is sensual, erotic and exciting. Keep up the good work. Your detailed descriptions of Vivian's training is wonderful. Your words illustrate the training scenes very well. I eagerly look forward to more of the story.
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Anonymous06/09/13
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have been following this story from the beginning...always anxiously awaiting the next chapter...always intigued by what happens next.....this one is no exception...brilliantly written....have read your other stories as well after reading this series..you are a gifted writer..
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Anonymous06/09/13
Love it
I'm not really worried about the non-con in the story - it's fiction, and a fantasy, and I refuse to feel guilty for enjoying that. So keep going, Goldeniangel, because it's an amazing story that manages to both be hot and explore Vivian's character at the same time.
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Anonymous06/17/13
Yeah, I get that you all find this story hot, but...
the more I read, the more it seems like a how-to manual for creating the world's first brainwashed BDSM-Stepford wife. This author is a very good writer, but I wish her heroine had a bit more spark and intelligence. Also, why aren't those vicious nightly spankings leaving her pale skin black and blue?
Being submissive does not equate to being unintelligent or not having a spark. I get that you like stories with subs who rebel more / have "fire" / are probably brats... Vivian is not like that - however that does not mean she's unintelligent. As someone who is submissive herself and tends to not be very bratty, I find your insinuation pretty insulting. Just because someone WANTS to be good / do what s/he's told in a sexual situation does not mean that s/he is unintelligent. Add in the TIME PERIOD which you obviously either know nothing about or just want to ignore the parameters of, and you get a storyline like this. Yes, in some ways it can be construed as brainwashing, but mostly it has to do with Vivian's nature and the constraints of the time period on women and the situation of her family. Seriously, by chapter 7 if you don't like it then you should probably stop reading.
Even if I wanted to change Vivian's nature - which I don't - it would look pretty weird for me to do so at this point in the story and so she is never going to be the submissive that you want her to be. If you want a more rebellious / bratty sub, choose a different story.
I honestly don't know why so many people come on here to throw fits. If there's something you don't like, get over yourself and stop reading it! I for one am thoroughly enjoying this series, and I eagerly await the next chapter!
Keep up the great work!
~shysubmissivegirl~
This is FANTASY. What it would be like to be wanted so much that someone pays to have you trained to be the best you can be. As for vivian's intelligance, look at all she has to go through day and night not only is she very smart to handle it all she's very strong minded. i love this story and i can't wait for gabriel to get involved in the training :-) Please if u don't have constructive criticism that can help the author. this is her baby and considering she's already written 7 chapters she's not changing a thing.
The anonymous comment that has people all huffy was mine.
Wow--didn't expect it to be taken so personally. My concerns are about the way brainwashing techniques are used to MANIPULATE her into the stepford wife that the husband wants. Submissives are not weak-minded doormats and I have a problem with stories that portray them that way, no matter what the historical perspective. (And if you think that all women of that time period were passive hothouse flowers, you are mistaken.)
I think that part of the reason you got so many "huffy" comments is because the phrasing of your comment seemed to relate her 'spark' to her 'intelligence' rather than what you perceive as 'brain-washing.' I can understand the point of what you're saying, although I do disagree that she's being brain-washed, but my point remains the same... why read 7 chapters of a story when you obviously don't like the underlying structure of it? I'm seriously asking because people who do that always kind of fascinate me.
I do disagree with you that Vivian has no spark and that she is unintelligent, and while there WERE certainly woman who were not 'passive hothouse flowers' as you've said (and I definitely never said there weren't), that's obviously not who Vivian is. She's a different kind of woman from that. That's the character I chose to write. So you prefer a different kind of female character... so why keep coming back to a story with a female type that you dislike? And checking the comments? Certainly no one's forcing you to read it when the main character is of a type that's not your preference.
I also don't think that Vivian is at all a weak-minded doormat either, I find it kind of fascinating that you seem to want to impose a certain "kind" of submission onto her in order for her to be realistic to you, rather than accepting that there are many other kinds of people who are submissive and that no one brand of submission is better than another.
What you perceive as "brain-washing" is something that I perceive as training that's opening her up to her sexuality in a time period when sexuality was extremely repressed and hidden. To me she's extremely strong in order to excel at her studies while learning to open herself up to these new experiences and learning how to submit, which in and of itself is a different journey for every person. It seems to me that you want her character to be similar to what you perceive as being a "good" kind of submissive - not a doormat, in your words - as opposed to just letting her be the kind of submissive that I've written her as.
Honestly I think you'd probably find me to be a "doormat" in terms of how I choose to submit in my life, whereas I find your words to be rather patronizing and exclusive, as if you think there is a right and a wrong way to submit/behave in submission. So yeah, I get a little huffy, not because I feel like you're judging my story so much as I feel like you're judging submissives who have a different personality than you. You'd make different choices in this situation and you'd prefer to see a heroine who makes THOSE choices... but I just feel like you're trying to force your definition of what makes a submissive woman onto me, not just in terms of the story. And that's what I'm responding to.
English
Nice buildup!
OK I really have to say this.It apears like a sweet story but...This is what I see when I read it.A bunch of people taking advantage of an ignorant girl, manipulating her without her choice and consent.Is that what BDSM is really about?Yes I am aware it's just a story but I can't help thinking it's a cruel and cheap one.
I love this story!
Will you write about Gabriel and Vivian's wedding? Will there be a follow-up story about their marriage?
Liked it
Should be posted in ''The butt, and nothing but''.
You're such a bad ass ;)
Every single little protest sound goes straight down in Banks notebook!!!!!! Give the kid a break. As if she knows what shes into.
Marriage Training?
Try 'Ass Training'
The only...
butts I read are these anon a$$holes who flame this extremely successful author. I can only speculate that you are either jealous of her highly successful portfolio or just mean and vengeful. If you don't like -- don't read. But why bother to post negative comments -- unless it's just to bore the rest of us. Maybe your own boring lives aren't enough for you.
Interesting chapter! Glad to hear more of the future hubby's POV , am glad he seems to care about her it makes him a bit more human. Enjoyable read. Thanks. M.
To Anon: BDSM and this Story
I can see your point about the manipulation of her choices... but you must remember that in the Victorian era women's choices WERE manipulated like this. The upper classes had arranged marriages and women often were married to men far older than themselves or cruel men who would beat/cane them as domestic discipline was both used and encouraged for children and recalcitrant wives.
Vivian, as a character, is naturally submissive. She appeared in my head that way and the more the story goes on the more I've come to realize exactly how much more submissive she is than I expected. While she's unsure about some of the things that are happening to her, she does enjoy them.
As to BDSM... it comes in all sorts of varieties and flavors... this is a brand that, because of the time period, borders on non-con/reluctance. If this isn't your flavor then I'm not sure why you've read all the way up to Ch. 7, but there are many other offerings by both myself and other authors that you are more than free to check out. Why waste your time on 7 chapters of this story unless it appeals to you?
Why I read all 7 chapters.
Because your writing style is amazing and I have enjoyed many of your stories.
Because I am not a mind reader and cannot know what I will be reading in advance, there's always a chance for a 'twist'.
I guess you made it clear there isn't.
Looking forwrd to your next story though.
Ignore the detractors
It is unfortunate that some of those who cannot create on their own find it necessary to attempt to detract from those who can. You are an excellent writer. As a previous comments reminds us, earlier times were not our own and there were many different restrictions in place, especially on women. I think the character development is consistent with those and find the entire situation and circumstances to be well thought out. Keep writing. You do a wonderful job.
To BDSM Anon:
I appreciate you coming back and actually responding =) Sometimes I wonder if people do that.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "twist." Is Vivian going to suddenly turn around and turn into a spit fire? No. I can already tell you that. But there may be other things that people consider twists. Not entirely sure what kind of twist you might be looking for.
I'm almost done with After Bedtime and after that I'll be putting out a couple more standalone stories... Marriage Training has quite a few more chapters to go, but you can always vote on my next series - I usually have polls / ask for feedback on my blog: http://goldeniangel.blogspot.com/
If there's anything that you'd like to see in particular, please let me know, I do read all feedback even if I don't always respond and I try to incorporate requests and constructive criticisms into my writing. I'm glad to hear that you enjoy my stories even if this particular series isn't your cup of tea!
just wanted you to know i love the concept of this story. this definatly one of my favorites that you've done :-) can't wait for more
Dearest Goldeniangel
What the hell happened here??? Your story is amazing! How could anyone get to 7 and not get it??? Victorian era was so repressed they could to nothing else but become skilled in BDSM. And very true, anal was practiced, often, as a method of sex out the issue of birth, though there was herbs, bottom line the pill did not exist.
Yea, yea, yea...poor thing, innocent, coerced, blame her family to start they pretty much sold her to him. Then there was the common law that you could beat your wife, as she is your property, with a switch no wider than your thumb, for moderate correction or chastisement. Though not an actual law, judges used it and made it case law, how nice for us women. Then attach him wanting what he wants. Oh and the "ladies" making a living at their school so that they were not property of a man, duh I wonder why. Of course there's that gross doctor. That never happens in real life, some pervert of a man goes to medical school to see nake chicks, better yet they go into ob/gyn.
The list will go on and on of how Vivian got to this and why she is already submissive. And long before ch 7. Its a story. A damn fine one to boot.
Thank you.
My thoughts on your story Marriage Training
This story is very hot. The progressive training of Vivian is sensual, erotic and exciting. Keep up the good work. Your detailed descriptions of Vivian's training is wonderful. Your words illustrate the training scenes very well. I eagerly look forward to more of the story.
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have been following this story from the beginning...always anxiously awaiting the next chapter...always intigued by what happens next.....this one is no exception...brilliantly written....have read your other stories as well after reading this series..you are a gifted writer..
Love it
I'm not really worried about the non-con in the story - it's fiction, and a fantasy, and I refuse to feel guilty for enjoying that. So keep going, Goldeniangel, because it's an amazing story that manages to both be hot and explore Vivian's character at the same time.
Yeah, I get that you all find this story hot, but...
the more I read, the more it seems like a how-to manual for creating the world's first brainwashed BDSM-Stepford wife. This author is a very good writer, but I wish her heroine had a bit more spark and intelligence. Also, why aren't those vicious nightly spankings leaving her pale skin black and blue?
Dear Anonymous
Being submissive does not equate to being unintelligent or not having a spark. I get that you like stories with subs who rebel more / have "fire" / are probably brats... Vivian is not like that - however that does not mean she's unintelligent. As someone who is submissive herself and tends to not be very bratty, I find your insinuation pretty insulting. Just because someone WANTS to be good / do what s/he's told in a sexual situation does not mean that s/he is unintelligent. Add in the TIME PERIOD which you obviously either know nothing about or just want to ignore the parameters of, and you get a storyline like this. Yes, in some ways it can be construed as brainwashing, but mostly it has to do with Vivian's nature and the constraints of the time period on women and the situation of her family. Seriously, by chapter 7 if you don't like it then you should probably stop reading.
Even if I wanted to change Vivian's nature - which I don't - it would look pretty weird for me to do so at this point in the story and so she is never going to be the submissive that you want her to be. If you want a more rebellious / bratty sub, choose a different story.
I honestly don't know why so many people come on here to throw fits. If there's something you don't like, get over yourself and stop reading it! I for one am thoroughly enjoying this series, and I eagerly await the next chapter!
Keep up the great work!
~shysubmissivegirl~
This is FANTASY. What it would be like to be wanted so much that someone pays to have you trained to be the best you can be. As for vivian's intelligance, look at all she has to go through day and night not only is she very smart to handle it all she's very strong minded. i love this story and i can't wait for gabriel to get involved in the training :-) Please if u don't have constructive criticism that can help the author. this is her baby and considering she's already written 7 chapters she's not changing a thing.
Btw any update on when 8 is coming out lol??
The anonymous comment that has people all huffy was mine.
Wow--didn't expect it to be taken so personally. My concerns are about the way brainwashing techniques are used to MANIPULATE her into the stepford wife that the husband wants. Submissives are not weak-minded doormats and I have a problem with stories that portray them that way, no matter what the historical perspective. (And if you think that all women of that time period were passive hothouse flowers, you are mistaken.)
To Pleasureseeker 5:
I think that part of the reason you got so many "huffy" comments is because the phrasing of your comment seemed to relate her 'spark' to her 'intelligence' rather than what you perceive as 'brain-washing.' I can understand the point of what you're saying, although I do disagree that she's being brain-washed, but my point remains the same... why read 7 chapters of a story when you obviously don't like the underlying structure of it? I'm seriously asking because people who do that always kind of fascinate me.
I do disagree with you that Vivian has no spark and that she is unintelligent, and while there WERE certainly woman who were not 'passive hothouse flowers' as you've said (and I definitely never said there weren't), that's obviously not who Vivian is. She's a different kind of woman from that. That's the character I chose to write. So you prefer a different kind of female character... so why keep coming back to a story with a female type that you dislike? And checking the comments? Certainly no one's forcing you to read it when the main character is of a type that's not your preference.
I also don't think that Vivian is at all a weak-minded doormat either, I find it kind of fascinating that you seem to want to impose a certain "kind" of submission onto her in order for her to be realistic to you, rather than accepting that there are many other kinds of people who are submissive and that no one brand of submission is better than another.
What you perceive as "brain-washing" is something that I perceive as training that's opening her up to her sexuality in a time period when sexuality was extremely repressed and hidden. To me she's extremely strong in order to excel at her studies while learning to open herself up to these new experiences and learning how to submit, which in and of itself is a different journey for every person. It seems to me that you want her character to be similar to what you perceive as being a "good" kind of submissive - not a doormat, in your words - as opposed to just letting her be the kind of submissive that I've written her as.
Honestly I think you'd probably find me to be a "doormat" in terms of how I choose to submit in my life, whereas I find your words to be rather patronizing and exclusive, as if you think there is a right and a wrong way to submit/behave in submission. So yeah, I get a little huffy, not because I feel like you're judging my story so much as I feel like you're judging submissives who have a different personality than you. You'd make different choices in this situation and you'd prefer to see a heroine who makes THOSE choices... but I just feel like you're trying to force your definition of what makes a submissive woman onto me, not just in terms of the story. And that's what I'm responding to.
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