Rules of Marriage Ch. 04 - FTDS

Very interesting...

...people's selective morality (the commentators). I felt this ending made sense, both in real life and in the realm of the story and characters. Why are commentators so willing to accept the woman's actions in these stories, but when a guy does the same thing, or even shows a semblance of self-preservation he becomes a bad guy? And this crap about staying for the kids sake... the kids growing up in a loveless marriage tainted by hate is better? How?

I didn't like this ending

The Celt's original ending was rushed, but more in line with Sam and Kirsten's characters, I believe. I think Kirsten HAD learnt the mistakes she made and how to correct them, Sam came back expecting total capitulation, and unable to let go. Just my opinion.

Demonized the wife, dammed the kids by his self absorbed callousness . Cheap.

Make no mistake. The wife had a huge slice of humble pie and or divorce coming. Yet Sam had his quotient of that plate due by the Celt's conclusion. Sam punished his kids, in tandem with the wife for her transgression. That's wrong, as in kid- psyche wrecking wrong.

You come back for a week every 3 months to see them, bare minimum. Each half of that couple was fatally flawed in terms of mutual compatibility aka wrong for each other for different reasons. The Celt's solution of each remarrying other partners was on the money, by my lights.

Kudos for effort, though. If this ' failure' helped you write what seems to be a nigh unabated triumph like " Cuckold Diet Solution " . Bravo. Then as a aspiring author, I can learn from this. Thank you .

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One Of Your Best***

Thanks for sharing. This one could stand alone it's that good.

Shoulda known FTDS would be so callous as to do that to children, shame on you asshole!

So we're supposed to believe the only reason he visited was to spend time with his kids...

and finally demonstrate to his wife that he'd been more successful playing by her rules than she had.

Of course, she had been playing at playing; he forced her to take a timeout while he was playing for keeps (in entirely justifiable payback, of course.)

Okay, fine. You get to feel smug. You won. You raised the stakes and you won. You and Mrs Swede can spend the rest of your lives telling each other that.
But don't pretend that you came all that way to spend an hour and twenty minutes with your kids. You're a liar, and you have no intent of being a father. Maybe a provider, but not a Father. You're too emotionally immature to be a Father, because you nursed your booboos instead of growing up.

FTDS, you can take your smug heroes and go to h*ll. It's better if your characters never saw the light of day. They neither BTB nor grow up.

In short, there's a reason why almost every author takes one of the two obvious ways out--they are the only ways that work. Your stories avoid the obvious and end up failing the reality check AND the respect-the-protagonist check.

Good one

Another winner from my prospective. Really like this one.

Not the Greatest

I must say that this is the first of your endings that I did not think was a worthwhile read. The father's attitude toward his children leaves something to be desired. When he patted his new wife's stomach and basically said he was starting a replacement family, I wanted to punch him in the mouth.

The story would have been better if he had tried using some of his new found wealth to get at least partial custody. If he was my father and only wanted to see me for a couple of weeks in the summer I would tell him to take a hike.

Keep on trying though and thanks.

I have to let the cat in.

You have a great handle and thanks for finishing all the damn stories that need a a decent ending. This one was great. Could have had a little more compassion for the kids but the wife needed to be slammed down. She came on like gangbusters in the original ending and I wanted him to send her to the moon. Your ending made me feel better. Thanks. I have to let the cat in.

Hmmm

Ok so I've loved all of your stories to date. I even loved this one, with the exception of the way Sam handled the kids at the end. I'm hoping that it's just a lack of clarity and not that you meant him to be so dismissive and indifferent of his relationship with his existing children. Reading between the lines I'm thinking that perhaps it wasn't Sam's wish to not be a large part of his girls' life but rather that he assumed that Kirsten would block his access to the children, resulting in a lack of relationship between father and daughters....I'm hoping that's the case as it seemed to hint that at the very end.

Regardless, I'm still a fan! Thanks, hugs and kisses in advance of your next story.

As per usual

Do not know why I ever read a story of yours. I haven't since the first two but was just perusing thru old stories and here was this story by the Celt. A great writer and good enough to be published. Saw your story and was curious but did not check to see who wrote it. Damn now I will be have a bad mood for a few hours. As usual you only want revenge even when it hurts the innocent. In the Celts story each of them grows particularly the wife. She has become honorable and trustworthy with that growth. The husband had to grow too but was not able to let go of the pain. That is OK too since they found a way to be happy with their lives and selves and be honorable/trustworthy/successful. She did not whine. She told it like it was. Earlier she was a cunt for her betrayal. He was a prick for his betrayal and yes that is what it was. It must be nice to life in such a place of smugness to write these stories of revenge for no purpose so the plot line winds up hurting many others characters in collateral damage. Grow up emotionally some will you.

The kids get me too -

The rest works fine - she made the rules - decided the game so he tried and won - she lost -

The kids are the innocents and deserved better or at least more - he will be there if she let's it happen - she has the control - they are pawns and that is not good for them ever.

I expect he loves them and wants to be there for them and will try and even if absent will do well for them but the message is still not good for them from him - I walked away and you were not enough for me to stay.

Kids are nit asked if they want to be born - once we are arrogant enough to require they be born we own their well being - period - anything less is disservice.

Excellent

Thecelt wrote many fine stories on this site. R.I.P. However his ch. 4 of this tale was not one of them. FTDS take has the cheated on husband living by the wife's rules, which included not being faithful. She deserved no quarter because, unknown to the husband although he probably guessed, she cheated before. Total lack of respect. So he acted accordingly. Alright so he was a cheating prick also. But she earned the divorce. She drew first blood. Now she has to live with this situation. One more thing. The husband should try to get custody of the kids.
Okay maybe that's a stretch. Oh well.
Keep up the good work. Five stars

I don't think thecelt's original chapter four was so very bad. Granted, I wasn't happy with his conclusion either, but it wasn't anything extreme I couldn't live with.

Your take on it I actually like, but I wouldn't say it's as good as some of your other attempts. Because the writing was very well done, as usual, I've voted 4/5 stars nevertheless.

It is a simple choice of "Rules".... which do you follow (agree with) or not

The Celt clarified his as did FTDS . I simply choose the latter.

Both great story and writing, both great end.

Thanks go to The Celt for sharing so much with us on Lit. and to FTDS for now sharing his writing.

X

Very nice follow up to the Celt's pathetic ending to "Rules of the Marriage" FTDS!

To put in SIMPLE terms for the "idiot, cheating, WHORE wife apologist" who want to blame everyone BUT Kristen for her despicable actions, SHE is a pathetic excuse as a wife, a mother and a female ... a disgrace to her gender .. period!

- She broke her marriage vows,
- repeatedly lied to her husband,
- disrespected & cheated on the person she "supposedly" loved,
- tore her family apart,
- ruined her marriage,
- committed adultery,
- potentially exposed her "innocent" husband to life altering/deadly STD's,
- failed to learn from her transgressions,

..... shall I go on?????????

The apologist declare she has "grown" and "learned" from her mistakes ..............
I say HOW?

First .... She remains employed at the same company that allowed her to cheat "THREE" times on Sam! Obviously, she is "working hard" to reassure her husband that "My marriage comes first"! Wonder how long it take before her new "family first priorities" get in the way of a "FOURTH" time?!?

Second .... It's STILL all about her .. NOT the children, NOT Sam .. but her! EVERYTHING she says screams "ME, ME, ME"! If her year of reflection was suppose to be "educational" she earned an "F". Or to put in another way ... "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!"

Third .... She has a curious way of showing Sam how she has grown during the past year of "self-reflection" and "examination"! What was it she said?? .. oh yeah, "it was wrong, it was cruel and it dishonored you and our marriage. I understand what I did wrong and I have learned some hard lessons" ... and then she eloquently demonstrates how much she has changed by opening her big mouth and "lovingly" telling him - "You bastard! I'll take you for everything—". Odd way of demonstrating her remorse and desire to start over ... don't you think?

I could continue to "pile on" additional facts but why??? To show she has no real moral character or she is worthy of a "do over" ... frankly, it's not worth the time and in sporting terms I would be accused of "running up the score".

For those of you who still want to blame the innocent while providing excuses to the narcissistic actions of this BITCH, I say give it your best shot ... you are as blind to the truth as she is!

Thus ends the lesson.

"CHEATING WHORE WIVES ARE THE LOWEST FORM OF LIFE!"

I Don't Think People Understand What It means To Be In The Military

My father was career military. He was stationed in a number of places that he couldn't take his family. (including Korea and Vietnam) That is the reality of military life. Knowing my father, that worked out great for him. But that is another story. The duty of a military wife is to maintain the home-front. My mother did everything she could to foster and maintain a relationship between me, my brothers and my father. My mother did not like the travel (being away from her family). She also hated my father's absences. But she understood her duty, and she did it, for 22 years.

Kristin "flaked-out" after one year! One year!!. From Sam's description, she didn't do anything to maintain the relationship between Sam and the girls. Yet she attempts to use the girls to guilt Sam. And even after her betrayal, she's whining about the year being hard on her.

I have little or no respect for people who join the military. The military is a hierarchical, authoritarian organization. The military's idea of honor is to "follow orders", even if that means killing innocent men, women and even children. Those that join are trained and conditioned to be bullies and thugs. It teaches America's true values: might makes right, fear equals respect, and brutality and cruelty are the first and best solution to any problem. You've probably heard the expression, to a carpenter every tool is a hammer, and every problem is nail. For the military, the tool is violence. (mental and physical) That's not my opinion, it is a fact. The joke on the military bases when I was growing up was, "Join the military, travel the world to exotic places, meet interesting people, and kill them". I'm particularly disappointed when non-white people join the military. The only people black Americans have had to fight for freedom and justice, are white Americans. So we should not be joining the military to fight for freedom and justice, unless the military is going to start killing white Americans.

That having been said...,
If Kristin actually loved Sam, and wanted to remain married to him, she did an extremely poor job of supporting him or the family, even beyond the betrayal. I don't see how you can worship the military, as most Americans do, and not get that.

Robert

Hmmm...for the last commenter

Your anti-military screed left me convinced of a number of things. First, you obviously have no clue what people who make a career of the military are like. I'd explain it to you, but I doubt you have the capacity to understand. Next, you are a coward. People tend to project themselves onto others (something I've noticed liberals do quite a lot.) Your projection of "bullies" was deliberate, your designation of "killers" was deliberate, yet I'd bet my last dollar you've never met a military person that killed or bullied. And yet you seek to bully with your words those who serve, and vainly attempt to kill such notions of honor, dignity, and service. On the behalf of my fellow veterans, I am pleased to call you a stupid cocksucker; I will not hope that you die of intestinal cancer in a place where morphine is as of yet uninvented, but I will entertain a deep and abiding wish that you be rectally relieved by a syphilitic boar using a sandpaper rubber. Many times. Go fuck yourself.

both wrong

I don't believe he should have left the kids, he could have taken the job and commuter-ed oversea on job contracts and returned to see the kids but 12 months with out a decisions is wrong. Both thecelt's and FTDS ending are wrong morally and each version shows a selfish parent acting badly, two wrongs don't make it right. Those kids are going to grow up with so many problems, he should have ended it sooner and both got on with their lives. T

Leaving kids

Sorry motherfucker that will walk away from his kids. Bad juju.

GET REAL.

Now children, you know the Pimpery (aka Divorce Courts ) would never give him custody of his kids. So he might just as well cut his losses and try and maintain what contact he can with his kids.

Great story except for the kids

Your writing is of the charts but no real man would drop his kids for a year like thecelt's original story did or your story continued to do the in the same vein. She deserved what she got but perhaps the girls needed thier dad's arm around them a little more than what Hallmark would give them.

The kids

It's obvious from TheCelt's original story that had he stayed he would have spent the year being jerked around on visitation by the wife, and the only time they would have seen him was when he came to the door and got into some kind of argument with her. That's the kind of disrespect she was dumping on him their entire marriage.

His only real choices were to stay in the marital home and continue to be dumped on, or to do what he did. He should arrange for someone he can trust to handle whatever money he sends for the kids rather than let the ex have control over it.

Fantastic ending.

Much better than thecelts. In his ending the wife was still a selfish bitch. No marriage will be the same after cheating. Trust? There will always be a nagging doubt. And what's with all the Sam hate? What's wrong with you idiots? She cheated. He moved on... There is really only one thing to do with a slut. Walk out and find a better woman. Cheaters deserve all the punishment they get. Actions do have consequences.

This is the worst

ending to any story you have ever written. I am one of the biggest fans of BTB, but there has to be some room for negotiation. He took the cowards way out and walked out on his girls because of what his wife did. Yes, she was completely wrong and made very poor decisions. Would I forgive her in the same situation? Probably not. Could I ever trust her again? Maybe never. She did everything she could do to try to come back to some level of sanity, but that was still not enough for him. Nothing would have been enough for him. Begging, groveling, chastity belt, or ankle tether. If he was going to divorce her, do it straight away, but to leave like he did was unforgivable. You turned Kristen into a vindictive bitch in one page. Erica was just a 5 paragraph walking cunt. 1 * because there was nothing lower than 0.

Harsh but seems fair overall -

The ex is still totally focused on herself - he kept trying to work within her rules she kept shitting on him - end it - move on. Work out things as best as you can for the children who are innocents -.

Kids as hostages

That's the thing isn't it? If the ex-wife can't use the kids as hostages, the balance of power goes back to the guy. He can always move and find another job elsewhere in the world where the BS judgements of the US family court has no power.

Naturally, the toughest guy in the whole wide world

" Erica can kick the ass of 99% of the men in the world. I'm lucky to be in that last 1%."- Of course he is. He's a Literotica protagonist.

Ha ha ha, Cue all the 'Hellen Lovejoy's' out there

“Won't someone PLEEEEEASE think of the children!”
And, as in 'The Simpsons', no one cares!

So cold!

As much as I like most of your endings,this one stinks!
His attitude was so cold,not to her,but to the kids....."They're yours now. I'm starting my own family."
Another point....."I sent cards and presents, but did you ever once think of having the girls send me anything in return."....How could she? She had no idea where he was!
Yes,she was in the wrong. But you don't say how much he knew of what changes she had made in her life whilst he ras running away! Sorry,as I said I enjoy most of your endings,,,,But in this one I find his actions cold and calculated to hurt the kids as much as the wife!

To annamous

You have to be a bitch... What did you expect him to do,, grovel at her feet.. Live by her rules forever?... There comes a time when you say fuck it...let it all go and start over .. Good ending FTDS. All you cucks and bitches eat shit and die..

A Waste of Time

The story already had an ending that made sense given the characters and the plot line. There was no need for a new ending. And this one was not particularly original or interesting.

Stick to finishing unfinished work. Your efforts are sometimes appreciated there.

Usually I like your touch, but this was like a bludgeon. The original ending was better. If anyone starts the story, just read the original ending and skip this.

Pathetic, juvenile, bitter ending 1*

What a waste of time. I don't like most of your endings but this was truly awful!

RULES....WHO NEEDS THEM

better yet, who lives by them. TK U MLJ LV NV

I liked

That.
Glad to see he found someone he could live with.

Great finish

Quid pro quo it stung but it was necessary to finish this story with the protagonist standing tall and erect with his self respect intact. Divorce is a problem for children, but it is better to have a father with his self respect tangible and in view than the alternative the former author provided. When a divorce is imminent , it is better for all concerned for the sake of mental health to just get it over. Kristen was never capable to assimilate her role in this marriage and she will be happier in the long run in finding someone more suitably matched to her expectations in a mate. Thank you FTDS for your five stars effort.

Brutal

just a brutal ending .. the other ending is soooo much better

5*

So much better than the original ending.

original ending was

" i was a lying deceitfull cheating cunt, get over it or fuck off"

new ending is much better

Honestly, this wasn't any more believable than thecelt's.

To all the 'Boo-Hoo, this wasn't fair people

Tough Shit! She fucks other guys during their marriage because her and her dad have no respect for him. He finally grows a pair and does what is right for him for a change, and all everyone can say is 'Think of the children' or 'He's just wimping out and running away.' Screw that. She'll end up on her back very soon and will score a step-dad for the kids real quick. That's what she's good at. They'll spend the summers with him and the new wife in Europe, he'll fund their education, and will grow up more well-adjusted than 99% of all Literotica readers. Excellent ending and just rewards for the very deserving soon to be ex-wife.
PeteCedar

A Worthwhile Divorce

In The Celt's version,the wife was a shit.In this version,Sam is a turd. The real losers are the kids! What chance to they really have with parents like these two losers?!
All in all,the whole story,The Celt's 4 chapters and now this,is a sad tale about shitty people.

Dear Doodhue

FTDS ended this well, and Sam's bitch ex-wife got what was her's back in spades.

That you don't care that much for it is, in the final analysis, irrelevant.

nothing wrong about cutting your losses and moving on. Even if you have kids. The system is in favour of the primary caregiver and if she is a bitch as well. you have know chance. all the efforts through courts for visitation is just a waste of time and money. all one can do now is be financial support.