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Frank and Shayleen Ch. 02

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by Harryin VA09/17/13

this is so bad it should be ILLEGAL.

this is GREAT story up to the every very end. The ending makes NO sense.

After Shayleen gives Frank an ultimatum about whether not the save the marriage because of the mistakes that she made ... YEAH RIGHT .. Frank makes a wonderful speech with careful reasoning that shows the reader and his wife why he cannot get past which she has done .

As Frank so eloquently states ...it is his past experiences with other women... that affect his views of Shayleen. And of course Shayleen KNOWS this. This is nothing new or surprising as it is our experiences which affect how we view our relationships ...our politics ...our religion etc

If Frank had NOT been screwed over by these other two women... If he was not a victim that had been brutalized ... Frank might have forgiven Shayleen much sooner.

The scene where Frank goes on in great detail about why he cannot except the ultimatum from Shayleen... where it goes on for 8 paragraphs and nearly 900 words is very well done .

Then suddenly amazingly Shayleen takes an oath or promise on the life of her baby (which may not even be Franks LOL!!!!) ... and all is forgiven and forgotten?

This is completely irrational and a severe disappointment. A truly awful inept ending

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by LordSlamdawgg09/17/13

Take it or Leave it ?

I guess I'd take the deal like Frank did. Everyone makes mistakes & she confessed & atoned about as well as an average woman. That being said, everyone of the kids would have been discreetly DNA tested. Forgive but don't forget, trust but verify.

Excellent back & forth dialogue with opposing vantage points from opposing err opposite genders written, in dare I say, sensitive and provocative style. This story caught JPB in mellow and contemplative mood. I'm surprised but shouldn't be.

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by 2ndThoughts09/17/13

Harry in VA

Stop already!!! Its' a story, labored but entertaining!

Its' just a story and overly labored with justifying both their positions.

She wasn't as upset about how far it went because she was proud of the fact that she backed out, fessed up and felt good about herself. Not wanting to be the messenger of good hope with film for her colleagues - well, stupid of her but not a game changer.

Hubby, overly, maybe justifiably, over rracting and too sensitive for his own good had his points but pushed them stupidly to damn near losing her.

Her ultimatum...didn't fit for their situation and the character he betrayed would have pushed him to the point of her leaving and him spending the rest of his life thinking...damn - if only! So, ultimatum - not good!

Other than the above, typical JPB, good story - just off the wall a bit<

Thanks JPB.

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by elHosed09/17/13

Willing to do anything...

...except she did nothing. I don't get it. She THOROUGHLY fucked up. Hell, if he'd done the same thing, except he received a BJ instead of giving one she'd demand all kinds of conditions from him. Dumb and doesn't really make sense.

Was she worth keeping? Probably. Everyone is tempted. Her unwillingness to do ANYTHING to earn forgiveness and trust though, that's a hard pill to swallow. She didn't seem to have much respect for him, basically ignoring all his attempts to reach out to her because they weren't on her terms.

The guy should have told her what he did to get rid of Todd. I also would have informed her of every woman who offered pussy. She had to know he had other options and how far he was really willing to go to solve his problems. To many secrets.

Lastly, someone saying "your a good person, even if I'm not" (paraphrasing) does not, in my mind, hold even an inkling of persuasion.

4*s. Well written. Lots of interesting questions and situations raised. Wonderful and thoughtful dialog from the hero. The wife felt rather one-dimensional though. The ending felt very rushed as if there was far more intended, but the story lost interest for it's author.

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by Spykke09/17/13

The ending was somewhat abrupt

But not a bad read. Give it rest Harry, your rants are getting boring.

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by Jounar09/17/13

1* utter rubbish

JPB you spent all those pages building up hubby's character, backstory and point of view and then its like you looked at the clock, saw the time and finished this story in 5 minutes. Stories like this are why so many people hate reconciliation stories. A fairy appearing and waving a magic ward to get the couple back together makes more sense that the raac ending written here.

Shay knew Frank's history, decided to cheat anyways, only confessed when her back was up against the wall, even then lied about her what she did, refused to do anything to earn forgiveness or earn his trust back and then gives him an ultimatum.

Zero reason given the circumstances for Frank to ever consider taking the slut back.

2ndThoughts
Wow. Just wow.

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by hawkeye000709/17/13

Attitude?

The wife's attitude in this story was pure shit. The ending doesn't feel right. The husband should let her think he got someone to suck his dick and ask his wife how she feels about it. His response should be but, I didn't fuck her! 1 star

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by TornadoTys09/17/13

Ended to Quickly !

A really good story with a slow big build up to the final confrontation with his cheating wife ended with just a promise from her !

I feel there is an epilogue due on this story ! ?

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by EAPoe09/17/13

Well written as usual

JPB always writes beautifully even when his stories are subpar. Now it seems that he spends more time developing his characters and their personalities are more nuanced. This is certainly one of his better stories.

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by m1a109/17/13

to quick

was loving the story,,had a lot of real endings to chose from,,and because he promised her ,,he stays?.
Sorry but the ending was just ,,to quick,,,only 3 *

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by OneShotOne09/17/13

A cuck story from JPB

And you people are surprised why?

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by IronDragon09/17/13

@OSO

JPB does some damn good BTB sometimes. This was a bit of a twist ending, and one I didn't see coming. But then, JPB excels at Twists. He's the King of Twisted. lol

She swore on the life of her baby. That has to be worth something, and she did actually turn Asshole down before she gave it up to him. However, she should have never been in that position to begin with.

4 Stars. It's just fiction, folks!

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by bruce2209/17/13

Excellent Story

Tough situation for everyone. I do not think that I would have had the courage to trust her word. On the other hand I have always said that my word is my bond.
Does the other person breaking their word free me of my promise. It is a promise made before society. I always believed that two Whites do not make a Wong and the inverse. Intellectually it is a tough one but emotionally it is simple, all my trust evaporated.

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by 1Thinkingman09/17/13

Flaws that make sense.

Bob has outdid himself with this story. He has finally and correctly defined when cheating starts.



In the final paragraphs we have the ultimate manipulation of the hero. In essence Shay is saying, I was never as good as you so what I do should not be held to a higher standard. We the readers are left with the question will the marriage fail. The answer is yes. And Shay illustrates this very bluntly. Our wedding vows are one sided, you must keep yours even when I do not keep mine, live with it. Our hero agrees with her and thus makes the final transition to zero. For the rest of his life he will be manipulated and lied to by Shay the ground rules have been laid and he has accepted them. Great story about a man whose life experiences have ultimately set him up to fail as a human being. I gave this *****.

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by 1Thinkingman09/17/13

Flaws that make sense revised

Bob has outdid himself with this story. He has finally and correctly defined when cheating starts.

I had to do something to show her just how much her betrayal had affected me. And make no mistake here; she did betray me. True, she didn't go through with it, but to me the intent was the betrayal.

Our hero is damaged and had he not been the outcome would not have been the ending we get. Bob makes a good illustration of the thought processes of a cheater. In effect Shay believes that because she did not fuck the guy she did not in fact cheat. She probably voted for Clinton, eating is cheating but to accept that she would have to accept that she is a slut. Make no mistake she is a slut.

Because she wasn't seeing things from where I was sitting she didn't see our problem the way I saw it. As far as she was concerned what she started out to do was wrong, but then she didn't do it so no harm, no foul, get over it and let's move on. It would have been no harm, no foul if I hadn't learned of it, but I did learn of it and learning of it hurt. I hurt worse than Shay would let herself accept.

In the final paragraphs we have the ultimate manipulation of the hero. In essence Shay is saying, I was never as good as you so what I do should not be held to a higher standard. We the readers are left with the question will the marriage fail. The answer is yes. And Shay illustrates this very bluntly. Our wedding vows are one sided, you must keep yours even when I do not keep mine, live with it. Our hero agrees with her and thus makes the final transition to zero. For the rest of his life he will be manipulated and lied to by Shay the ground rules have been laid and he has accepted them. Great story about a man whose life experiences have ultimately set him up to fail as a human being. I gave this *****.

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by FullCircle5609/17/13

Better Ending Than I Expected

JPB. As always your story telling is superb. Great writing. Just a few glitches that a proofreader or another pass could have caught. No big deal.
Chapter 2 worked out ok. Not what I was expecting. Just glad you didn't send Frank into divorce number 3. For a reconciliation finale I liked this one. Thought it was heading the other way at first. You had my attention and the same time thinking oh shit. You did good!! Thanks!

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by njlauren09/17/13

I liked it

Well written,touching in some ways, and decent yarn.The ending is the only issue,not the reconciliation, but how is her swearing on her child going to change his mind? She admits she isn't as good as him,so what does.that promise mean? After all,unless you believe god would kill the kid,what does it mean?If it were me I would make her go through counselling and actually feel the pain she is ducking (and she is,mea culpa is not facing pain).pain would be feelibg franks pain and never wanting to feel that again or put him through it,and understanding why she would cheat is important.One alternate would.be she would sign an agreement that if she cheated again she would agree to full custody for frank with limited visitation for the baby.few women would risk that kind of pain,and if shay signed it it would mean she was serious.If she wasn't serious,she would get a divorce,lot less pain,so if she accepts frank would know.

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by glwadys09/17/13

great story but:

Are you sure they are all yours ??

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by ariesgirl09/17/13

Good for Frank, he made Shayleen work for it. I was disappointed she didn't tell all the other women about those videos.

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by maninconn09/17/13

Yeah!

Thanks Bob! A real story with realistic characters and a realistic ending. Go JPB!

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by phd7009/18/13

Good Wrap Up!

Interesting finish. Understand Franks issues, given his history with woman. Shayleen should have realized that she was taking a bad risk to satisfy her curiosity especially if she loved Frank as she claimed. At least the end was not a disaster as it could have been. 4 stars, but a rewarding read. Thanks JFB. Dan

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by Huedogg209/18/13

gave it a 4 for the jpb

I would have still dumped her ass but it was a well written story...bravo JPB

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by looking4it09/18/13

You had me hooked...

...until that piece of shit finish. What a fully selfish and self-indulgent bitch and a fucking coward for a husband. I know others give you crap for some of your stories but I've never been disappointed in one until now. I am at a total loss for words. So she decides she's not a good person again and breaks this promise, what difference would that make. Like she's going to kill her first born for breaking a new promise. Bullshit. She simply threatens him again and he caves. I really liked Shay in chapter one and less as things came out in chapter two. I really felt for him all the way through and hoped you had a scheme that would help her to ne'er stand the true betrayal and pain but you didn't. You copped out to a flimsy promise from a person who wholly admits she can't be trusted being accepted by an idiot three time loser (yes this time counts as a third). What a cucking waste of time (pun fucking intended).

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by bandyou09/18/13

trust is very hard to gain and easy to lose especially for imperfect beings .love you stuff, jpb

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by zed009/18/13

Eatin' Ain't Cheatin' Right Bob?

Anybody could accidentally suck on somebody's cock for a few seconds, right Bob?
I mean WTF?
Just a few licks and a deep throat, according to Slick Willy it's not like they had sex or anything, ain't that right Bob?
The two second rule should be applied here (you know, if you drop food on the floor and pick it up in under two seconds it's still okay to eat), so all he has to do is determine how long the cock was in her mouth from the video.
Also overlook the fact that getting her tits out for another guy is not sexual, after all strippers, and girls gone wild do it all the time.
That's not sexual is it Bob? Is it???
But Bob just you gotta wonder; what would have happened if Travon had washed his dick before sticking it in the sluts mouth, things might have cum out differently.
Huh Bob?
Huh!
Get it CUM out differently!!! I made a funny!!!

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by Kiddo100109/18/13

No way, Chief or JPB

You blew the ending. She wouldn't go to the other women. She didn't want to accept his terms with living arrangements. Gave him 24 hours to shit or get off the pot. And he kept her? You blew the ending, JPB.

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by tazz31709/18/13

ANYTHING WORTH HAVING

is worth the struggle to make it happen, TK U MLJ LV NV

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by Bill110409/18/13

I'm joining the chorus!

Great story up 'til the ending. Not that the ending was bad, it just was too quick. He had gone through too much to simply believe her oath and move on. To me, it appeared as though you were on a deadline and just pumped out the finish. Because the rest of the story was so good, I still gave it a 5.

Bill1104

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by KidCreole09/18/13

Finish rushed

I agree with Bill1104. It was a good story until you bailed in the last couple of paragraphs. I love your stories, but this was a terrible ending. Not because of the result, but because it did not fit with the pain he felt, or the reassurance that he needed.

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by lance_spearman09/18/13

Started off well

but I didn't like the way it unfolded after Shayleen's confession. At the point of her confession, the story reminded me of One Slip by Patricia51, where woman is strong enough NOT to succumb to blackmail.

After that, I did not feel the way the story unfolded was reasonable. There was no reason for Shayleen not to let her colleagues know they are free of Travon's blackmail. "Liberating" them would have been consistent with her nature. Since the who thing started when Mary talked about her session with Travon, there was little reason for Shayleen not to admit to a similar indiscretion.

Overall, good start, weak finish. IMHO.

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by firas0109/18/13

Excellent

Another gem from the master of LW, mature, reasonable and logical, the writing is top notch, I agree that the last couple of paragraphs sounded like you had to leave for urgent business so you had to bring the story to the end you have in mind without more elaboration but it was fine. The idea that cheating is never only the sexual act but it is more the mind set that leads to it is something that i hope most of the writers in this site can understand. Four stars, thanks for sharing.

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by Depopulo09/18/13

The correct ending to the story is when she brings up the *promise*, he reminds her that wedding vows are a promise to and since being a cuntish whore who just has to lie about the cuntish whore shit, that makes them even. So she an fuck right off.

Cuck side of jpb again, what a surprise...

4/5 for story
-1/5 for cuck shit again
-2/5 for the wimp bowing before the whore again

1/5

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by stoneturner09/19/13

Still good, but......

I have to agree with other comments, I bet you are regretting cutting the end of the story as you did.....But never mind, it was an excellent body of work in the main, and JPB is still a favourite author.

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by betrayedbylove09/19/13

Still an Excellent Tale

But I would have been suspicious of her fidelity and would have wanted prove that she would remain faithful. Still, all's well that ends well. Just my bitterness adds to my suspicious nature.
Five Stars

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by JackorChuck09/19/13

Thanks Bob

Thank you bob for another great story, 5 stars.

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by oldauthor09/19/13

Good story, but...

I thought the ending was unexpected and left too many questions. I've always enjoyed your stories, Bob, but I was very disappointed with what I felt was a rushed ending, much like many other comments on this story. I was disappointed, but after much introspection, I realized I had committed the same sin with some of my stories. Often, it's either a case of getting tired of the story or discovering a new project to explore and anxious to get started. Perhaps one of those were the reason for terminating what I thought was going to be a lengthy series by a masterful writer.

Also, I would have to question Frank's ultimate forgiveness of Shayleen given his past experience, regardless of how much he loved her. Kinda reminds me of the new series on TV named "The Blacklist" with James Spader where he answered the question of whether he "could be trusted" by replying "of course not. After all, I'm a criminal". That same reply could be used by Shayleen saying she could not be trusted because she "is a cheater".

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by Drbeamer333309/19/13

Enjoyed it

This seems unfinished. In the end she came across sounding exactly like her ex hubby, the psychopath. Thanks.

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by trojan567809/29/13

Great Story but...

She got off WAY too easy. Still, 5*. Hope you do a Ch. 03 and make her earn it...

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by EgoTrixi09/29/13

Definately one of your better stories...

...I found it hard to follow his arguments all the time. I do agree though that a divorce would have been the wrong way to go. Thinking about it I came to the conclusion that his "psycho-revenge" went too far. I had the impression he tried not only to punish but to dominate her. That´s nothing a loving husband should try.
Her reaction at the end was justified.
Very well developed characters and an interesting story, revealing their different points of view. 5*

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by lance_spearman10/13/13

Good story

but a very weak ending. That last monologue by Frank was sheer pontification. At that point, Shayleen should have told him to either move it or stuff it.

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by studying10/29/13

promises

She made a promise to her first husband, for better or for worse. She DOES sound like her ex.

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by 2ndThoughts12/09/13

Sorry

I liked her, understood her and could relate to how she ended up where they were.

I also know she was horrified, did love and cared very much for her husband. She is an educated, common sense woman and has a mind of her own. Putting Travon's dick in her mouth, even for a minute, was way out there but she did wake up and backed off.

I think Frank wanted just what he said he wanted...for her to do or say something that would give him confidence that she would not stray and mentally, actually and fully realize the depth of despair from the idea of intending to cheat - it is still cheating, even if not consummated., she needed to get that into her head, put herself in his position and feel the worry, the broken trust, despair and wonder of what to do or if there really was a relationship left - at least, the one they once had.

I believe he knew she wouldn't but he needed for her to do or say something from her own mouth that would wake her up and commit...she did and then everything was good - she just had to be a part of the final resolve.

BTW, his only worry was that she wouldn't get the real picture because there was no way he was going to give her up or lose her. She was woman enough to tell him she was going to pay for a divorce when she explained what happened. She had thought it out and decided it was only fair to him and then, next thing, they were still together, no divorce and working together to handle Travon! Did he want to give her up - Hell NO!

Thanks!

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by Storm11312/19/13

too soon

ended too fast. nice build up. good characters. just ended too quickly. especially with a longer story like this. still gave it a 5.

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by monkcalm01/18/14

great story

but once again no woman turns down big dick to save a marriage or her babies life..they just dont have the ability to see consequences its not in the DNA anymore..do i have a low opinion of women.....yes, a woman might have the character to say no, but women from what ive seen no, in today's world once a cheater always one, they have a huge ego and i know for a fact you take this kind of woman and a little booze and a big dick...Bam cheating...and it wouldn't mater if you blew the fucking kids head off in the middle..and then she'd cry im sorry..Oh look my kids dead! well you did swear on its life..then add booze big dick and she would suck that dick while kneeling on its corpse, Shayleen it that average women. and swearing to god dont mean shit..didn't when she married wont later kneeling on the corpse sucking cock.

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by ifeanyi03/08/14

@monkcalm

You are wrong . There are still many good women to be found; women who as wives will not ruin their family or marriage because of big dicks. Don't let stories, porn , and probably your personal experience fool you into thinking otherwise.

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by ifeanyi03/08/14

@monkcalm

You are wrong . There are still many good women to be found; women who as wives will not ruin their family or marriage because of big dicks. Don't let stories, porn , and probably your personal experience fool you into thinking otherwise.

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by javmor7903/08/14

@monkcalm

I don't know what kind of women you have encountered, but you may want to re-evaluate where you are looking for women. I have met a few cheaters (both men and women) but I have encountered many women with great morals that chose not to cheat when confronted by temptation. Also, a big dick is not enough of a reason to cheat. My uncle was very successful getting married women into bed. He told me, "Most men make the mistake of going after a women's body. I always go after the mind. Once you have the mind, the body will follow." He also said, "A married women isn't going to give you her body if her husband already possesses her mind and heart."

That is why I try to nurture my relationship with my wife. I make sure that I keep her mind and her heart. That way when someone comes and tries to take her body, he finds that it is not on the market.

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by LostOneThere04/11/14

We could write a book on Shay

However this is about our narrow focused Frank who is most certainly stuck on being stupid. He could learn something from Forest Gump in that "stupid is as stupid does." Frank is the poster child for that one. And there is no way in hell Frank would have accepted the "on my baby's life" promise when he couldn't accept any of her other statements. That was a piss-poor ending Bob.

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by FD4504/18/14

Deux Ex Machina

Everything fixed in one tidy bow within three sentences.

Sigh.

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by sdc9207808/21/14

Lost me at the end

First he gave her actions to do to prove herself, and she wouldn't do them. Then he ended up accepting her verbal oath. The problem with that is that once he made his rant about it being all on her to convince him she was serious, there weren't any words she could have said that would have realistically made up for her failure to take the actions.

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