I really liked this development and would like to see the rest of the story. Even if he goes ahead with the divorce he has given her a out to show him how he could ever trust her again. Could she come up with a plan? Could he reconsider over time and realize that he had acted too precipitously?
Help us with more of your masterful writing.
You never cease to capture our attention. Thanks! I like that you capture the delicacy of *unconditional* trust. I'm hoping to see you develop the character (Frank) a little further. The choices Tammy had were always there and would always be there. She had been tempted and even started to employ a way to satisfy the temptation. But Frank was afforded with a "God's 'eye-view'" of his wife's life. And it scares him. I wonder if any of us could withstand a scrutinizing mate's observation into every detail of our private thoughts & fantasies. Just a thought. With Debbie's admission of her love for Frank (mystery man), you have numerous spin-offs available...
No gangbang, no creampies or DNA forensics needed ( this time )
just a downbeat discourse on how a woman first skews then severs a functioning marriage aided and abetted by her trollop BFF. Trust the unique fisheye storytelling lens of JPB to add ever increasing tension and then poignanancy at conclusion without anything visceral actually occurring.
You almost had me until mum ended up in Vegas and died of aids. Then the old formula of good guy / bad girl, sorry, hero/ dirty filthy cheating slut whore comes out. I hear writing can be cathartic but it's taking a long time to get to the bottom of this wound.
Also can we get something erotic in there, mentioning Dennis has a big dick really doesn't cut it. I don't like reading about cuck's or cheaters but at least they have a sex scene. 1*
One of the things that made this more unique than most is the fact that he made his decision on mere intent instead of having to witness or hear about the physical betrayal. Now she can try Dennis, right?
So easily makes a woman lose all morality and good sense, as is depicted in many of these LW stories, then why does Debbie fuck around on Dennis? Most guys dicks are half his size so what is her thrill?
From the recorded the conversation that they had last it was obvious that Debbie had the hots for Frank Frank was the one that could save her from being a slut. I wonder if you're going to do in sequel anytime soon. Give it 5 stars little abrupt with the ending though.
Like CBM said, this tale is over. Frank can't and won't stay with a wife he can't trust due to what happened with his mother and father. Hell, even after telling her he knew about her plan to cheat, after telling her he would divorce her for cheating and after telling her his parents story, she still planned on cheating on him ffs.
What loose ends are left?
@falconcrazy88
Frank was of course the guy Debbie was talking about in this story. But she knew he would have nothing to do with her due to him knowing how big a slut she was from their younger days and her continuing to be one, not to mention her part in helping his wife cheat on him. No chance of them hooking up imho.
I thought Debby was way too obvious, garish in fact, trying to tempt him. Better she had been sexy but respectable. That she would even try was a big suspension in belief. But you're entitled to one and that was it..
When you had Debby say there was only one man who could have saved her from her slutty self but he will never have me, that was just a gratuitous cliche and the story would have been better if you left it out.
I very rarely request a sequel. Authors have a right to end a story anywhere they like. However, this one seems to call for a part 2.
The story itself was very JPB-like. Characters professing to love each other but, despite that, their behaviors and betrayals seemingly ruled by their genitalia.
Still, I found it very readable and had to finish it after reading the first couple of paragraphs. 5 stars, I'm easy.
If you know how mixed up another person is, you really lose all trust. The divorce is the only route to avoid going paranoid. The big problem here is whether he can trust another woman after this seven years in heaven.
Ok, so this wasn't quite as twisted as some he's written, but still a damn good read. Love it when JPB does BTB or just Moves On from a fucked up relationship/marriage. Great stuff, man.
It is worth getting rid of her if only for the fact that after 7 years of marriage they had no kids, she hung around with a slut, and now was willing to risk her marriage for a sexual encounter with her slut friends husband. Not to mention the fact that she cheated on her husband before they got married - several times! She is a steaming pile of shit. Flush her!
Frank married Tammy, but hadn't he dated Debbie once or twice. Debbie was fast, but she'd said there'd been one guy she'd fallen in love with after only a couple dates. She told Tammy had she gotten that guy she' would never ever have cheated on him. Is there are second part to this story? Is Frank Debbie's once in a life time heart throb? JPB have you set something up, or am I just living in a trash can? And if I'm right have I fucked up the rest of the story?
Of course I always like a JPB. He's a fiver just like on Watership Down.
From Debbie's perspective Frank might have been her one and only but I didn't see anything simular with Frank in this story. Seeing as he avoided screwing her like she had the pox when they dated due to the advice about sluts from his dad, what happened to his mate Fred, seeing Debbie cheat on her marriage after just a year and he knew she was helping his wife to cheat on him, Debbie is the last person I could see him hooking up with.
JPB is a swine at times for his rather open ended tales and while this one is pretty wrapped up, I just can't see a sequel in the work's nor what it would offer.
For counseling. I know the BTB crowd hates the idea of giving the marriage another chance, but in the real world most marriages survive much worse than this level if conflict. A good counselor could get these two communicating like never before, getting Tammy to do whatever it takes to remove Frank's doubts and fears. You are a good writer because your stories evoke feelings, good and bad, in your readers.
First...this doesn't NEED a sequel! Bobster has done ANOTHER happy ending in a row! (Maybe that's why he MAY write a Ch2...to give Frank a chance to wuss out, after all!).
Generally (but not always) the Bobster puts Ch01 on his first chapter in a series! But maybe he's sandbagging his readers on that choice!
Second...I would like this a lot better if it IS a complete, finished stand-alone! It is a worthy FIVE star tale, without Sweetie getting stuffed (pity, she might decide that a bruised cervix is NOT a girl's best friend - as she's getting served!). Glad Hubby disclosed his last analysis because, as he was listening to Sweetie claim her decision to forego the Burro Boner of Dennis, I was thinking the same thing he later considered. No need to live with those kinds of doubt and continual mistrust!
Tammy planned to cheat. "Curiosity' killed the cat. Why should Frank wait until wife actually did cheat? She already proved that she could not be trusted. They had no children even after seven years, so if he waited children might make the breakup far more of a disaster. He needs to find a spouse for the 'long term'. with whom he can have children and a real family life! Time for him to get on with his life and perhaps find the spouse that he really wants. Time is a wasting. Thanks, JPB. Dan (phd70). Look forward to more of your work.
I think it needs a part 2, to close off the loose ends, first elaborating on the part about debbie saying she would've gone slut cold turkey for some guy, i have an idea of who she might be talking about, if the intent was just to add some small talk over their phone conversation then maybe saying something along the lines of "they started some idol chit chat about debbies past and a guy that got away .....blah blah etc, but the author chose to divulge into the conversation more detail then what was maybe needed which could suggest that there could be another dimension to the story steering it into yet another direction. but then maybe i'm just over thinking it. secondly i think he needs to fully confirm if the last phone call was a setup, as it wasn't made right away, she could've went to whores house and planned a conversation to make it sound somewhat legit, but as the writer says how could he trust her now? if it ends up being just a one chapter effort it was pretty decent.
Great decision Frank. It was the only logical decision to be made. To have to be constantly worried when you weren't home that she would be fucking around was a burden no sane man would want. Great tale.
Seems there us a sequel to this tale.
Does Tammy get kicked out, does Tammy find a way to convince Frank she is sincere, does Frank go through with the solicitor visit, do get divorced, does Tammy remain true to Frank even after divorce ! ?
Look JPB, I truly like most everything of yours I have read, but you gonna finish this one? Talk about leaving something unfinished. I had to give you just 3 stars for that alone. I usually give you 5, and leave no comments.
So how do you convince someone, whose trust you have lost, to trust you ?
A stranger would have an easier time gaining trust, having given no reason not to be trusted.
But when you already know that they will lie to you, what then ?
You should really write a proper conclusion to this tale. What I've read so far is good - and I've been very fair by voting 4/5 stars for it - but it could be so much more with the aftermath to finish the story off.
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Anonymous07/27/14
JPB NEVER FINISHES A STORY. HE LEAVES IT UP TO US CAUSE HE DOESNT HAVE THE BALLS TO FINISH THEM.
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Anonymous07/29/14
some times I don't get people
the story's name is "frank's decision" and he made why do people need things spelled out for them. It took him awhile but he finally listened to his father's advise!!!!! people do not change unless they are forced to. I guess another thing that he should have seen was birds of a feather, we are our friends and he should have done something about the friendship along time ago. but life is a learning experience and we learn as we go.
The story is about the decision, but after the time spent describing the events leading up to it, the reader is denied the satisfaction of the cheating wife's house of cards collapsing as the decision is implemented.
English
Thank you
I enjoyed reading your story.
Don't Leave Us Hanging
Could you finish the story? Authors like you always leave us hanging with no resolution. We get to the precipice and are left hanging on the edge.
judge1179
he divorced her.
Good story that needs to be finished
I really liked this development and would like to see the rest of the story. Even if he goes ahead with the divorce he has given her a out to show him how he could ever trust her again. Could she come up with a plan? Could he reconsider over time and realize that he had acted too precipitously?
Help us with more of your masterful writing.
The conflict is internal, not external
The point of the story is can he trust his wife. He decided he cannot.
A story is about A conflict. Some have more, but Bob's are always generally a single point.
The point is made with the lawyer call. However...there is ANOTHER story of the parry and thrust of her trying to avoid a divorce he so clearly wants.
Bob has written that sort of story too.
Good One
Especially liked that he didn't wait for her to physically cheat. Far as I can see the marriage is finished and so is the story.
Thanks Bob
Thanks Bob
You never cease to capture our attention. Thanks! I like that you capture the delicacy of *unconditional* trust. I'm hoping to see you develop the character (Frank) a little further. The choices Tammy had were always there and would always be there. She had been tempted and even started to employ a way to satisfy the temptation. But Frank was afforded with a "God's 'eye-view'" of his wife's life. And it scares him. I wonder if any of us could withstand a scrutinizing mate's observation into every detail of our private thoughts & fantasies. Just a thought. With Debbie's admission of her love for Frank (mystery man), you have numerous spin-offs available...
5* One of your best Bob
Once the trust was gone so was their marriage.
Thanks JPB
A good man with his junk fully intact!! JFTDS here is another one to finish off
No gangbang, no creampies or DNA forensics needed ( this time )
just a downbeat discourse on how a woman first skews then severs a functioning marriage aided and abetted by her trollop BFF. Trust the unique fisheye storytelling lens of JPB to add ever increasing tension and then poignanancy at conclusion without anything visceral actually occurring.
Almost had me
You almost had me until mum ended up in Vegas and died of aids. Then the old formula of good guy / bad girl, sorry, hero/ dirty filthy cheating slut whore comes out. I hear writing can be cathartic but it's taking a long time to get to the bottom of this wound.
Also can we get something erotic in there, mentioning Dennis has a big dick really doesn't cut it. I don't like reading about cuck's or cheaters but at least they have a sex scene. 1*
Nice
One of the things that made this more unique than most is the fact that he made his decision on mere intent instead of having to witness or hear about the physical betrayal. Now she can try Dennis, right?
if a big dick
So easily makes a woman lose all morality and good sense, as is depicted in many of these LW stories, then why does Debbie fuck around on Dennis? Most guys dicks are half his size so what is her thrill?
doubt
Curiosity may have killed the cat, but doubt will kill a marriage.
next
I hope you tie up the loose ends in the next chapter. ...fun story!
will there be a sequel
From the recorded the conversation that they had last it was obvious that Debbie had the hots for Frank Frank was the one that could save her from being a slut. I wonder if you're going to do in sequel anytime soon. Give it 5 stars little abrupt with the ending though.
what loose ends?
Like CBM said, this tale is over. Frank can't and won't stay with a wife he can't trust due to what happened with his mother and father. Hell, even after telling her he knew about her plan to cheat, after telling her he would divorce her for cheating and after telling her his parents story, she still planned on cheating on him ffs.
What loose ends are left?
@falconcrazy88
Frank was of course the guy Debbie was talking about in this story. But she knew he would have nothing to do with her due to him knowing how big a slut she was from their younger days and her continuing to be one, not to mention her part in helping his wife cheat on him. No chance of them hooking up imho.
good story
I thought Debby was way too obvious, garish in fact, trying to tempt him. Better she had been sexy but respectable. That she would even try was a big suspension in belief. But you're entitled to one and that was it..
When you had Debby say there was only one man who could have saved her from her slutty self but he will never have me, that was just a gratuitous cliche and the story would have been better if you left it out.
Once Again
Another great story like always, a Big 5.
Sequel?
I very rarely request a sequel. Authors have a right to end a story anywhere they like. However, this one seems to call for a part 2.
The story itself was very JPB-like. Characters professing to love each other but, despite that, their behaviors and betrayals seemingly ruled by their genitalia.
Still, I found it very readable and had to finish it after reading the first couple of paragraphs. 5 stars, I'm easy.
Great !!
Just says it all.
Love without trust,is impossible to live with.
Another good story Bob - nice one !!
Act II
If you don't finish this story, ya know - give her some pain. If you don,t finish this story finishthedamstory will !
I like it so far.
It Is FINISHED!!!
Loved her but knew he would always have doubts and that was not a good thing for a loving relationship!
The finish - he wrote it - Going to see an attorney in the morning'!!!
Thanks JPB
HOW DOES ONE JUDGE FEMININE GENETICS
of changing ones mind, TK U MLJ LV NV
Great Story*****
YOU THE MAN!!!!!!!! BOB. Thanks for sharing.
BTW 5*****
Sometime JPB writes a epilog.........sometime. I read on SOL earlier.
He got it right.
If you know how mixed up another person is, you really lose all trust. The divorce is the only route to avoid going paranoid. The big problem here is whether he can trust another woman after this seven years in heaven.
Long Live The King!
Ok, so this wasn't quite as twisted as some he's written, but still a damn good read. Love it when JPB does BTB or just Moves On from a fucked up relationship/marriage. Great stuff, man.
5 Stars.
Loved it! Thanks for sharing your story with us!
Enjoyed it
"If Tammy went through with her plan we were toast. I wouldn't live with a cheating wife."
I would think her plan, regardless of wether she had followed through, was enough to kill the marriage.
What kind of person did he marry?
It is worth getting rid of her if only for the fact that after 7 years of marriage they had no kids, she hung around with a slut, and now was willing to risk her marriage for a sexual encounter with her slut friends husband. Not to mention the fact that she cheated on her husband before they got married - several times! She is a steaming pile of shit. Flush her!
Have I missed something?
Frank married Tammy, but hadn't he dated Debbie once or twice. Debbie was fast, but she'd said there'd been one guy she'd fallen in love with after only a couple dates. She told Tammy had she gotten that guy she' would never ever have cheated on him. Is there are second part to this story? Is Frank Debbie's once in a life time heart throb? JPB have you set something up, or am I just living in a trash can? And if I'm right have I fucked up the rest of the story?
Of course I always like a JPB. He's a fiver just like on Watership Down.
@ carvohi
From Debbie's perspective Frank might have been her one and only but I didn't see anything simular with Frank in this story. Seeing as he avoided screwing her like she had the pox when they dated due to the advice about sluts from his dad, what happened to his mate Fred, seeing Debbie cheat on her marriage after just a year and he knew she was helping his wife to cheat on him, Debbie is the last person I could see him hooking up with.
JPB is a swine at times for his rather open ended tales and while this one is pretty wrapped up, I just can't see a sequel in the work's nor what it would offer.
This is a Ready Made Case
For counseling. I know the BTB crowd hates the idea of giving the marriage another chance, but in the real world most marriages survive much worse than this level if conflict. A good counselor could get these two communicating like never before, getting Tammy to do whatever it takes to remove Frank's doubts and fears. You are a good writer because your stories evoke feelings, good and bad, in your readers.
Sequel
First...this doesn't NEED a sequel! Bobster has done ANOTHER happy ending in a row! (Maybe that's why he MAY write a Ch2...to give Frank a chance to wuss out, after all!).
Generally (but not always) the Bobster puts Ch01 on his first chapter in a series! But maybe he's sandbagging his readers on that choice!
Second...I would like this a lot better if it IS a complete, finished stand-alone! It is a worthy FIVE star tale, without Sweetie getting stuffed (pity, she might decide that a bruised cervix is NOT a girl's best friend - as she's getting served!). Glad Hubby disclosed his last analysis because, as he was listening to Sweetie claim her decision to forego the Burro Boner of Dennis, I was thinking the same thing he later considered. No need to live with those kinds of doubt and continual mistrust!
5*
Great Ending!
Tammy planned to cheat. "Curiosity' killed the cat. Why should Frank wait until wife actually did cheat? She already proved that she could not be trusted. They had no children even after seven years, so if he waited children might make the breakup far more of a disaster. He needs to find a spouse for the 'long term'. with whom he can have children and a real family life! Time for him to get on with his life and perhaps find the spouse that he really wants. Time is a wasting. Thanks, JPB. Dan (phd70). Look forward to more of your work.
Well ??
Chapter Two ??
Pretty good
I think it needs a part 2, to close off the loose ends, first elaborating on the part about debbie saying she would've gone slut cold turkey for some guy, i have an idea of who she might be talking about, if the intent was just to add some small talk over their phone conversation then maybe saying something along the lines of "they started some idol chit chat about debbies past and a guy that got away .....blah blah etc, but the author chose to divulge into the conversation more detail then what was maybe needed which could suggest that there could be another dimension to the story steering it into yet another direction. but then maybe i'm just over thinking it. secondly i think he needs to fully confirm if the last phone call was a setup, as it wasn't made right away, she could've went to whores house and planned a conversation to make it sound somewhat legit, but as the writer says how could he trust her now? if it ends up being just a one chapter effort it was pretty decent.
Excellent
Great decision Frank. It was the only logical decision to be made. To have to be constantly worried when you weren't home that she would be fucking around was a burden no sane man would want. Great tale.
Good Read
Seems there us a sequel to this tale.
Does Tammy get kicked out, does Tammy find a way to convince Frank she is sincere, does Frank go through with the solicitor visit, do get divorced, does Tammy remain true to Frank even after divorce ! ?
So many questions !
Good Story, But...
Too many loose ends & questions like other commenters have said. Needs a 2nd chapter.
Wha? Huh? Uh.......
Look JPB, I truly like most everything of yours I have read, but you gonna finish this one? Talk about leaving something unfinished. I had to give you just 3 stars for that alone. I usually give you 5, and leave no comments.
not finished
sorry. gave it a 1. it simply s not done. half a story does not rate.
how can you say it's not done?
six months later the divorce was final.
the end.
how do you ?
So how do you convince someone, whose trust you have lost, to trust you ?
A stranger would have an easier time gaining trust, having given no reason not to be trusted.
But when you already know that they will lie to you, what then ?
finish please
gave it a 1. not finished. it is too bad because you write very well.
You should really write a proper conclusion to this tale. What I've read so far is good - and I've been very fair by voting 4/5 stars for it - but it could be so much more with the aftermath to finish the story off.
JPB NEVER FINISHES A STORY. HE LEAVES IT UP TO US CAUSE HE DOESNT HAVE THE BALLS TO FINISH THEM.
some times I don't get people
the story's name is "frank's decision" and he made why do people need things spelled out for them. It took him awhile but he finally listened to his father's advise!!!!! people do not change unless they are forced to. I guess another thing that he should have seen was birds of a feather, we are our friends and he should have done something about the friendship along time ago. but life is a learning experience and we learn as we go.
Complete, but unsatisfying
The story is about the decision, but after the time spent describing the events leading up to it, the reader is denied the satisfaction of the cheating wife's house of cards collapsing as the decision is implemented.
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