Making It Work Ch. 08

3/5. The highest score I've given you since the beginning.

Regardless of the veracity of your claims, the central truth is simple: they haven't changed except to become more unbelievable.

Examine the facts: they are 23 and married for 3 years and unless they graduated early, have been in the workforce for a year. In one year, going on two they have both been unbelievably successful in their respective careers. Had you made them POTUS and the First Lady, you could not have been more unrealistic. Supposedly during the year they were graduated, they also broke up for almost a year...leading me to conclude they are in no way in their early 20's.

Next, fantasy is all well and good; but how many men and women fuck non stop for hours and hours every time thy hook up? Every. Fucking. Time. In my 20's, I once fucked a young woman for almost three hours straight. I ended up with friction burn on my dick because neither of us were experienced enough to understand that at some point, a woman stops producing lubricant. It took a month before the skin had healed enough to resume nocturnal activities. NOT FUN!!!!

Sometimes the guy or the girl don't always want to end up in bed. Sometimes, especially if you're in a relationship, you just want to cuddle. Hang out. Play scrabble. But Jen never does. It's always hardcore fucking with her and its always better than anything she's ever had. Seriously???? While you're at it, why not have her cure cancer or solve world hunger?

And lastly, Mike. His fantasy has clarified to the point where he wants to see her leave him for a man she loves and have his baby?!?!? What the fuck? No, seriously: What. The. Fuck?!? That's not a fantasy, that's a divorce. You're telling us that he wants her to leave him. You're telling us that he gets his jollies off imagining her married to another man and having his children? Well. That already happened in his mind, when she left him for Rick and he didn't seem to be having fun then so why would he want to revisit that? It's like he wants to be the boyfriend and she's married to another.

In conclusion, I don't care what you write. I don't care how you end it because this was the last post I read from you. Hell, you can have Mike suck cock in the homeless shelter for coke for all I care.

Your best writting

So far other then that the initial meeting between mike and Jen this is the best u have written. however I do agree with the concesous of commentators that every story you have written is going in circles. So please before you start another series read a series written by goodhusband if you wish to persist in writting this style of he is one of the best at portraying the humiliated angst jealous husband .

Read courtesan it will do your writting the world of good

Thank you for the commentary

I think I have always had a small inkling of the direction for your story Xleg and I for one appreciate the way you are telling your tale. You are correct about life being repetitive; sometimes stories need to be as well, at least to me. Poe wrote the classic treatise for writing a short story and he was a master. Write no word or sentence that does not lead directly to the denouement. I have always thought longer stories, novel length such as Xleg's, must repeat behavior to establish a pattern. Would Jen be such a slut if she only fucked one guy one time? No! There is a randomness to life. I for one will let Xleg continue to tell his story. He has the skill and he knows the direction. I am sure he has an ending in sight.

your an

idiot

Personal Confirmation: that it's wise to give up hope on evidence of personal change, although not on series

I look at this series as being much akin to Seinfeld. From start of show till finish Jerry was essentially Jerry & Elaine basically stayed Elaine. Ditto with George and Kramer. The motto of show was " no hugging, no learning" .

It was the adventures of the main characters that kept fans addicted aka the ' Soup Nazi ' episode or story arc with George and fiancé Susan . The death by licking toxic wedding envelopes. Yadda, yadda, yadda. The peripheral New York characters & edgy conversations carried the show for around a decade.

I root for dynamic supporting characters, weird but plausible adventures, memorable dialogues. It's reluctantly accepted that Mike & Jen's core character facets remain largely static. I still enjoy their bedroom patter but not action.

Sustained cuckoldry is passé to me. It's just one fetish among many I've a voyeuristic interest in. The varied characters, glitzy metro settings & edgy dialogues that xleglover conjures up in process of exploring his carnal obsession are not passé. That is what I root for as a reader & xleglover fan.

I root for Darren & Allie scenes with this series much in same way I rooted for Newman, Mickey the midget scenes in Seinfeld. Those characters are never dull at worst and usually average out at electric.

Let's face facts: Mike is a sweet financial savant, but pretty dull in many ways, not to mention underendowed with esteem issues. For him to hold onto a live wire like Jen, concessions are made. His generosity is calculated to a degree. Indulgehim , give him time where he's Jen's sole focus & it's good. They enable and love each other - often it's hard to discern difference.

All series have quagmires of repetitive stretches. So be it. If you admire author's style there are always diamonds to be gleaned from heaps of coal. I've never read a xleglover story where there wasn't at least one beautiful dialogue
/scene that's enough for me slogging thru a subpar installment to last until a better one.

. The critics' vehemence utterly escapes me. This is not required reading or a mandatory course. Frankly, I don't have time management skills to skewer all stories that strike me as inept. Thank God for that. You like a restaurant or you don't. You like xleglover's style or you don't.

Why go to specific well? Drawing bucket and drink, if you gone there before & don't like flavor of that locale's water. The odds are that well isn't changing from one day to another.

xleglover is clearly writing for largely his own pleasure. He's not changing. So read on if you enjoy. The smart choice is to move on, if you don't. What ? You want to stay and complain ? Good luck with that stellar choice.

I'll understand Mike's penchant for cuckoldry before I understand repeatedly voluntarily reading an author an author I don't like. Trust on that one.

Interesting insight

Your story, so you must do it your way. I'll hang on till the bitter end, and won't be skimming over bits. Your writing is too good for that.

" Those that cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

Right? If Jen and Mike have not learned anything from their past endeavors they will obviously suffer the consequences in the future. Sad really.

Thank goodness your Jen is a LOVING WIFE and won't submit to your depraved cuckold fantasy.
You are luckier than you realize. If I ever (which I won't) ask my wife to violate our VOWS by becoming a cuckold she would dump me in a heartbeat. And she would be right to do so.
Keep pushing your Jen, and when she dumps you, you will know why.

The reality of fantasy is NEVER worth the cost.

Damn, Lord Dog

Aren't you ever going to shut up? Instead of writing a fucking book on feedback, start writing your own stories so we can rant about them. Nothing more sickening than a self proclaimed critic that thinks he has all the answers.

Thanks!

I also thought the flashback epilogue was great. You make Mike sympathetic yet frustrating. The new boyfriend is both kind and sensitive like Mike, but strong, sexy and dominant like Ricky and Scott. Combined with Jen's personal success this could be bad news for Mike. I hope they end up together and become monogamous, but knowing your other stories this probably won't happen. Keep up the great work; I'm a huge fan.

Well done

You have handled this series very well and Iam sad to hear that chapter 12 is the end. This was a very realistic depiction of cuckold relationship. Critics should know this is not about swingers or open marriage or group sex. It's a cuckold/Hotwire with bull story. There will be Dom/sub and humiliation themes as that's what this genre is about. One doesn't have to worry about the impact on Jen and Mikes relationship as this is what keeps them ticking.

I come here always wanting to know how far mile and Jen have peogressed in their games. It's not repetitive. There is jealousy but also arousal. These are not plain wham bam thank u ma'am tales. It's complicated and that's what makes it did detect from swinging.

Please remember that this must be a popular series to get do many comments. There are some badly written stuff here that gets no comments. Even the cuckold ones. But for critics to read each chapter, get pissed off but yet return for more, means u are going something right. Please continue many more chapters as the silent majority enjoys this story and this theme clearly excites u (as it does us).

Making it Work

I just don't see where Jen is trying to "Make it Work", she seems more selfish each chapter.

SELFISH OR NOT, HERE WE GO AGAIN

I read this and you've not convinced me to hang in there any longer. That statement covers current and future works you might present to Literotica. Get off your personal fence too. Strap yourself into a chair in the closet and sully your drawers with dung as wife fucks someone else.

Its is funny as hell that ANYONE woud take the time to respond to xleglover

Look his stories are vile stupid and Moronic. Does the IDIOT who wrote this letter REALLY think that person sexually OBSESSED with cuckold stories as much as Xleglover gives 2 shits about hat ANY reader thinks?

you people cannot be this god damn fucking stupid. Every single stories from xleglover is exactly the same ... which is 1000% OK if that is what this sexually fixated writer wants to do.

BUT... the implication are clear. THIS author doesnt give fuck whether you like his stories or not. The feedback in his stories for YEARS have been severe negative unpleasant. The vast majority of anyone who has ever read xleglover's story has HATED it with a passion

very sad

Two exceptions

@ Harry Xleglover has two exception stories. One of the two is where the husband will have lover and the already abused drugged wife wants to escap from the bulls, but she finds her husband with othe woman. (I read that chapter alone from Xleglover).
He has another story where the (cuckold) marriage ended with divorce.
The readers hope this story will be the next exception. I agree you the hope is low % likelihood.

I am finished with it

The only words worth reading now are the comments.

Thanks for the commentary

I enjoyed reading your process, and enjoy your series. I'm with you, it fascinates me how guys can do this with no feeling, or with acceptance. I am still cheering for Mike to man up and step out with his team member, the news girl, or even better with the gazillion women he should be able to attract as the wunderkind of Sapphire, and turn that jealous angst in the other way, especially after she adopted her "queen for a day" attitude in this story while in Vegas. But it's your tale, and I am but a reader.

All in all, as the critiques mount up, remember, it's fiction. It's fantasy. So they quickly advanced in their careers, found unlikely habits and fetishes, da da da, it's a story. Go on and suspend our disbelief, even the naysayers are still reading. Now stop listening to this crap and finish he next installment. I want to sit on the edge of my seat screaming "Noooooo" at Jen and "Man up, skip the Karaoke, and go make Allie scream 'Fuck me Bubble Boy" in the alley behind the happy hour while Jen flirts with Tom in the bar. Exercise some options, dude.

BTW-4 parts are out in the VT Vaughn series beginning with the Reluctant Cuckold, but the last one gets a bit over the top.

To answer your question

[quote]I'm fascinated by the hotwife/cuckold fantasy. I read a lot of stories and blogs, and one thing I CANNOT understand is how a guy can see the woman he loves fuck another guy[/quote]

I can't answer from the cuckhold point of view that's just not my passion but I can answer from the swingers point of view.

It's like watching the hottest porn movie you've ever seen except it stars wifey! Frankly the guy barely registers at all you could liken them to a human dildo! People who do this successfully don't get jealousy, the emotion is called compersion. We celebrate our spouses having a good time and enjoying themselves.

After all you weren't born married nor were you monogamous during your puberty and early years. Monogamy is a religous construct in society and many can look past that.

Interestingly enough I can't understand why you suffer (and you do) from jealousy and angst worrying about your spouse. Freedom are the greatest chains in the world and transcend obligations, vows or any other artificlal construct you want to impose.

Surprisingly enough it's you that suffer from jealousy that have the real problem!

All that being said please continue with the story as you see it, I think you're one of the better writers here.

Thanks for sharing...

Nice letter you received, XLL. And a reasonable response. Thanks for sharing the letter ... and your response! This would seem to be Ch7a rather than 8, so I'll assume we have four more episodes (9-12) to the terminal!

No rating for 'author comment to the readers!'

I gave up reading your stories, because they're all basically the same.

An answer

@gordo12 About cuckoldryThe cuckold fethis husbands have 3 types

1. Bisex husbands.
2.. Hidden homosexual husbands
This lifestyle is natural for the earlier mentioned types.
3. As you explained the third type the porn addict hetero husbands.
The swingers is a special porn addicted, but there the husband is involved with other women same to wife. (mutual connection against cuckoldry)

About monogamy:
You are wrong, because the monogamy is not religiouse thing. The monogam marriage wants to sure three important things:
1. The most important SAVE!!!! background for the children. Crawling up under lovers are not good children background, moreover kid identity problems (DNA test world is!) etc..
2. It is important too to avaible a helping mate at every small and big problem and anti loneliness instrument. (To backstabbing by spouse who steals the family fortune with the newer lover (he or she does not matter here....)) The most people do not like to live such house/apartments/condo where strangers trasspass up and down non stop..(the newer lovers for husband or wife)...I think neither the swingers lives such houses/apartments/condos (except for club days or special home parties...).
The cuckolds live such background...............
3. Save sex provider each other (save sex not only STDs alone but lack of abuser bulls, lovers, etc..)

I know many atheists and agnostics, who are monogam. The best example Stangstar06. There are religiouses, where the poligamy is...........or were......

I hope you are not such fantasta who wants to forbid the monogamy............some similar posters were here on the comment section..........

Swans Mate for Life

And I doubt they are religious. Monogamy is however a construct, not religious but logical. Give that some thought.

I read your earlier stories, but decided I read for enjoyment and I wasn't enjoying the continuing anguish and humiliation of your main character. Waiting for him to emerge and take control of his life was a lost cause. So I gave up and read elsewhere.

fuck the readers....

if they read this far they are hooked...not saying you a great writer but for some reason I doubt springsteen listens to the crowd on what to sing...I rather believe he sings what he wants and lets the crowd descide if they want top stay...btw if u read comments any chance you can toss in a country singer lol

lordslamdawgg

You are a complete and utter idiot try writting something for once instead of talking you might some respect you tosser

it works for me

Enjoyed your explanation but none was necessary for me. I enjoy your work and your writing. Thanks for writing and sharing.

Thank you.

I THANK you for that!!!! You almost lost me, but to hear from you and see the thought pattern behind the stories was very refreshing. Now that I know that the story is actually going somewhere and will not continue to circle the drain, I will tune in. You are a good writer, and I enjoy your work, though it can be frustrating. I am not the writer and I will not tell you how to do what you do. I will suggest a little balance though. Mike seems to be feeling the consequences of his bad behavior almost instantly, while Jen NEVER experiences any consequences for her bad choices, even though she makes some really dangerous ones. I read a comment by another person in one of the previous stories that hit home. He/she mentioned Jen's carefree way that she has sex with people in the workplace and NOBODY suffers. No awkwardness, no bad reputation, no bosses getting angry, no clients getting lost, NOTHING. I know from personal experience that this is unbelievable, especially with the carefree way she has no discretion about it. I had agree with this person. I'm not saying burn the bitch, but to go about life in the adult world like you are in high school has repercussions. Your story, while being emotionally pulling, loses some realism with this. I will continue to tune in to the story to see where it goes. I may wait a few chapters, but I will not completely write you off. I thank you for your response to our queries.

feedback on feedback

Good that you provided the feedback.

I enjoyed your first story that started this all off: He Fucked My Girl.

Frankly, I don't usually enjoy cuckold stories, mainly because they rarely provide any psychological insight into why husbands do this.

I've been following the series since the beginning and, step by step, I was beginning to understand what was making Mike tick. (Whether I agree or not isn't the issue).

However, like many others, I was beginning to suspect that you as a writer had run into a dead-end. You had brought Mike and Jen very far yet even with Mike's (and to a degree Jen's) motivations 'explained' there seemed to be nowhere to go. Anyway, that was my impression, that the writer himself had got himself lost in a loop of repetition.

Now I now there is a final Chapter 12 coming. Good to know. I was almost tempted to stop reading. Now I can wait. I know the confrontation that I want to see as the 'logical' outcome. You'll either follow the line I anticipate, in which case I'll enjoy seeing how you work the details, OR you'll do something I don't expect.

Either way, it'll be a good read.

PS Practically ANY story has some sort of grounding in reality. That's almost the definition of fantasy writing on Literotica. Writers always put themselves and others into fantasy situations, etc etc. You don't need to explain the overlap .. it's rather pointless. The stories as written have their own existence.

Thank You

I appreciate your explanation of this story. I guess I am still inclined to ask as I did in a comment on one of your chapters...What if anything have they learned? It may be evident to you that they have "grown" but not so much from this readers point of view.

I keep coming back to the saying there is a difference between "information" and "knowledge". They seem to be collecting information (more of the same in my opinion) but not much knowledge. I look forward to your ending.

The Better Man

Will keep this short because typing on my phone is a PITA. The best part of this series is that you built some depth to the characters... particularly that Mike is a man of principle and character, with genuine substance. I hope you will be exploring that more fully in the remaining 5 parts (presuming this not actually part 8, lol!) by providing a credible rival to Jen for Mike's affection. Sooner or later Jen needs to realize that of all her lovers; she is/was married to the better man.

More please. Ignore the critics. Thanks!

More please. Ignore the critics. Thanks!

More Sex Scenes

First, thanks for the behind-the-scenes post. Even long time followers like me learned something.

Second, would appreciate more in-depth descriptions of your sex scenes. Understand your focus is cerebral, but some of us are a little further south. Plus it's a knife-twisting experience for Mike to see Jen really make love to her lovers. Appreciate the "NRE" comment but describing the energy and connection in a sex scene is more effective, I think. Not to mention way hotter.

Also, would really appreciate in-depth descriptions of the sex as either Jasmine rocks Mike's world or Keri rocks Jen's.

I would appreciate it

If you would make Mike a little less of a pathetic cuck, who actively encourages Jen to cheat, and more of a reluctant cuck, who gets jealous, but feels that if he doesn't go along with it, then Jen will leave him. Eventually, he should "man up" a bit, get over his cuck facination, and cut her loose (unless she really gets her fill of arrogant jerks and changes, once and for all). But good story, and thanks for posting.

My two cents

For my part, I've enjoyed all three of your most recent series. Regardless of how the characters eventually deal with it, though, probably my only complaint is the relatively frequent hinting at pregnancy, and nothing actually happening. If it happened with a black guy she was seeing, so much the better, although far from a requirement for me to enjoy it. To attempt to satisfy the most readers, maybe you should end with multiple versions of the last part, as I believe you've done before, and I know other writers have. One where everything comes up roses, one where she tells him to fuck off so she can live with Mr. Horsecock, one where she stays with him but has Mr. Horsecock's kid, and so on. What the endings will be, and how many, I leave to your discretion, but that seems like the "easiest" way to keep the most people happy. However you finish, though, I know I'll be reading it, and I wish you the best of luck with the reactions of others. :D

MY two-cents worth

Though the whole cuck fantasy is not mine, I enjoy reading the adventures of Jen and Mike. I realize that for Mike it is a real fantasy that gets him off. My only wish is that Mike would draw some lines in the sand. For example, teasing is one thing, but allowing Mike to honestly believe that Jen would impregnate herself with another man's sperm is over the line. I would see that as a clear breach of trust and Mike should become very pissed off about it, threaten to leave, even move out. If Jen enjoys the fantasy--and the teasing--but simply went too far, then Mike will discover the extent and depth of her love for him. It will also acknowledge that Jen understands the demarcation between fantasy and reality, between fantasy played out and fantasy taken too far.

Just my thoughts FWIW.

The Cobbler

Ok so this all makes sense as you have written up top. The thing that bothers me is that you mention they keep doing the self destructive things over and over again and while it fuels their lust you and I both know that lust goes away pretty quickly. We have sex what for an hour or so out of the day (even if it is every day). That leaves a lot of time for real life to be present. So these dark places that keep happening because they have no will or self control eventually will HAVE to destroy them or at the very least destroy a loving relationship. You may disagree but I simply don't see how it is possible for them to not be destroyed by constantly dealing with dark places. I guess what I'm saying is how can this not destroy them when negativity and dark places are constantly surrounding them and their life. That would destroy anyone who has to deal with in on a consistent basis.

Keep the Fantasy Fantasy

I do fantasies my wife being fucked by another man but I could not handle it and no i would not wanted to happen but as a fantasy yes and than after in my fantasy I fuck her better than him and she love my love making because a woman need love in her sex.

I enjoy your series

This talking to the commenters is great. This site is about erotic writing. Some time less is more. In your next series why not do more like your real life and write Jen as flirty but doesn't cross the line. I know it would be harder to satisfy the readers who want to read about hardcore cuckolding, but you have the writing skills. Perhaps Jen could be more of an exibitionist or draw the line at making out or handjobs etc... The hard core sex could be the sex she and Mike enjoy after one of her encounters. It would be a nice change of pace to read about the fantasy that is not fully realised but grow stronger with her attempts at placating Mike. This is a niche in the erotic story market that many may enjoy. I'd write it but I have no writing skills. Just my two cents.

Simply cannot understand any man willing to be a cuckold.

When the woman makes him one, the marriage is over. By her actions, she has demonstrated to her husband that she really has neither love or respect for him. More importantly the trust that her husband had in her has been completely destroyed. Maybe he forgives the infidelity. But the trust is something that's nearly impossible to recover. And without it, the marriage is dead. And to make it worse, you claim that this story is based on true life. Right there and then you lost me. It turned the whole story into a giant pile of implausible, unbelievable garbage. I'm done.

Be glad it's only a fantasy

Just a brief bit of unsolicited advice, it you don't mind. Take it from a single guy who has never found a woman to love and who would let me love her: Be glad that your real-life wife, the real Jen, "rolls her eyes" at you and loves you enough NOT to indulge in the fantasies you write about here.

Feedback

Ok now that you've open the kimono some, assuming your "true life confession" is real and your intent was to write about a subject you know nothing about from first hand experience but have a "conflicted" feeling (due to your not uncommon fantasy regarding the real Jen) about the hotwife/cuckold lifestyles I have a better understanding of the stories and where you may be coming from. I could add more useful comments. For one thing from reading post from real couples in those lifestyles the one essential for success of their primary relationship is for absolutely honest communications. No secrets. Which Mike and Jen lack - totally. He hides his true feeling from her, she hides details from him and violates their agreed upon boundaries.

Epilogue 2

"(By the way, I was kinda disappointed by the reaction to the 2nd epilogue of All In My Head. Not many people liked it. To me though, it's the best thing I've ever written. I guess it was a personal thing. It was fiction, but I tried to capture the spirit of how the real life Jen picked me. Here's a hot chick who's always dated hot guys. But they always treat her like shit, so she finally decides to give the shy math geek a chance.)"
Take it from me, mate, that epilogue is amazing. It makes my heart ache to read it. I read it over and over because it is so heart moving. I think it is wasted in erotica. I think it could sit very well in a romantic novel. Of course, I always hope that Mike will grow a pair and stop putting his wife in such situations or that Jen will gain some self-respect and respect for her husband and her marriage. One would think that a pair of two intelligent people will seek counseling and therapy for their problem. However, it is an addictive and seductive saga. Keep it up, mate. You are an engaging writer. I don't care what the others say.

Making it work or jennies gone one more time

"Also, I think it takes awhile for people to grow." Sure I get that, but they're not really growing..... they say the deffinition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome. That's what Jen and Mike are doing, the same mistakes over and over expecting things to end differently. Dating a guy from work was a bad ideal, so she dates another guy from work. Not wearing her rings was a bad idea with Ricky so she does it again with Tom. She ditched Mike for Scott lots and with Tom she even ditches him to go with the two women just cause they're Tom's friends. And Mike doesn't always communicate how he's doing, instead she has to try and guess how he's feeling all time.
And a love story? I dunno know any more. Your unbelievably great at letting us feel the heartache when things go bad but I don't really feel that much love between them when things are going good. It's particularly lacking from Jen. Sure a lot of the things Mike gets upset about are innocent or accidental but Jen also does some really thoughtless and uncaring stuff , even in the context of "playing the game." Not to mention she's losing respect for Mike. And Mike, he doesn't seem to have enough respect for Jen to even share that he might be losing his job. I think that was sort of the message of epilogue 2 that Mike saw something in Jen besides a just a hot body. Now that seems to be all she is to him a goddess on a pedestal that he takes down to play his game for him. Mike and Jen needed that day in the park that time to go skating that they didn't get and so did I so I could still see this as a love story and not the train wreck everyone refers to. My biggest question is what do they get from each other? Outside of playing the game and some mercy sex for Mike cause "he his my husband" it doesn't seem like much. I guess the next step to "make it work" is for Jen to go away for awhile with Tom and totally forget about her husband for a week or so because she just got "out of control" and then come back and tell Mike, "I was just ending it with him." Sorry had to throw that in....cause I really really don't think that's how you end it with someone wether it's Ricky in Cancun or Scott in Las Vegas, even if it is his birthday. Nope, she wasn't ending it with Scott, if it wasn't for how upset Mike got over the video....She'd still be dating him. It's all she could do to keep away from him even after video. And it doesn't look like things are going to end any better with Tom.

Interesting insight

This is a really interesting insight into your motivations in writing this series of stories and your thoughts on the characters in them. I think your exploration of what is driving their behaviour is really interesting, particularly the analogy with addiction. In this case it is a co-dependency of course.

Thanks for the insight into your creative process.

stupid cockold bullshit ftom a nigger.

The only thing worse is the losers who read more than one.