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we are interested in breast pumps /forced lactation. Can you give me info on where to get the pumps?
cellis
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Try some of the links that Wizard just posted... I know I saw some information on a couple of those links... also try http://www.bdsmon-line.com
I am almost certain they have information there...
Ebay always has some on auction. The Medela brand is pricy but about the best. You want an electric double pump for the best results. You will find a book on breastfeeding with a chapter on adoption will help too. It takes time and dedication.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Magister
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Would anyone who has actual experience with this please post here, or PM me? I intend to do this with geri, but I would like to hear from people who have experienced it, in order to better understand the full effects and any possible health issues.
Thank you
Thank you
EvilBrat74
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Breast pumps are found in almost any baby department in stores.
Wal-Mart has em for sure.You could probably even pick up one in your local CVS store.I've heard it's hard to make yourself produce milk,but it is possible.
So good luck.
Wal-Mart has em for sure.You could probably even pick up one in your local CVS store.I've heard it's hard to make yourself produce milk,but it is possible.
So good luck.
Magister, I know something about this.
The secret to induced lactation is patience and consistancy. A good quality, electric, double pump will help also.
Lactation is caused by stimulating two hormones, prolaction and oxytocin. The hormones are stimulated by breast and nipple, manipulation; sucking, massage, kneeding and pumping. There are herbal remedies on the market touted to help with milk supply. Fenugreek capsules, found in health food stores, can be taken two caps-three times daily. The seeds can be infused into tea. There is also a Mothers Milk Tea made. The drug Reglan (metoclopramide), usually prescribed for gastric reflux, can also help to stimulate milk production. The usual dose is 10 mg. every eight hours for 10 to 14 days. This drug works best if the woman is postpartum but some have had success with it without pregnancy. It can be used for two courses but one of the side effects is depression so coninued use is not recomended.
A commercial grade, electric pump is best for breast stimulation. Hand pumps and battery pumps are inexpensive and available in many stores but do not offer suffucient suction or the cycles per minute that are needed to adequately simulate the breast. Because most battery operated models do not offer suction regulation, tissue damage is a consideration also with hand pumps, you control the suction and cycles so it takes some timing and coordination. Remember, you will not have the advantage of postpartum hormones so you will need a quality product that will stimulate the nerve endings. These can be rented (1800-Tell_YOU). Ameda/Egnell and Medela are companies who rent and sell these products. You can find them online also.
Many women use Medela's Pump in Style model, it is light weight, portable and efficient. It will run approx $300, less on eBay.
Okay, you have done your pump research and made your purchase, decided whether or not you were going to use drug/herb therapy, and you are ready to roll. The next step is pumping.
Regular pumping is a must. Your goal is to simulate a baby's feeding schedule and suckling. If you have bought a high grade pump, you will have the stimulation part licked. A recommended schedule is ten minutes of stimulation per side every 2 1/2 hours and at least twice at night. The hormone levels are highest at night so make use of them. Don't get hung up on the pumping alone, this can be a shared experience. Sucking and massage also will stimulate the hormones so don't hesitate to do your part as well. Do not fear these hormones, they are a woman's friend. Depending on the length of time a woman lactates, the hormones can help to lay on bone mass and induce a feeling of well being.
I recommend a warm compress and breast massage (like a breast self exam) before pumping to start the hormone production. It sort of jump starts the process and you get the best results from your pumping session. Make sure you have a good fit so the suction will be strong. Wetting the funnel that goes over the nipple/areola will help create a good suction. Push the funnel straight into the breast tissue towards the chest wall to compress the ducts behind the areola. Follow the instructions given with the pump to avoid sore nipples if this is desired. If the tissue becomes dried or cracked medical grade lanolin (Lansino- walmart or drug store) can be used. Use moist wound treatment, keeping the area covered with the lanolin.
Some women will produce large quanities of milk, others just a few drops. Some will only produce a creamy/golden colored substance that is a pre-milk (colostrum).
It can take days or weeks to see results.
If she produces an abundant supply she may become engorged (breast become full and tender). The breast will have to be emptied regularly to avoid this if you desire. Another problem that can arise if the breast are not properly emptied is mastitis (inflamation if the ducts). Regular emptying of the breast will help to avoid this also. As you can see this is a high maintainence proceedure but well worth it for many.
I would like to address the practice of induced lactation in the context of a BDSM relationship. The very act of regularly pumping can be a very submissive thing for a sub to do for her Dom/Domme. Pumping alone is an act of loving obedience that connects the partners. The production of milk is a gift she can freely offer Him/Her as a result of her patience, and obedience. Keeping a pumping diary and having the sub record her thoughts and feelings about pumping is also something that may be tried. This is also a good way to assure a regular schedule is maintained and to record milk production.
As for the use of hand and battery operated pumps in play, the hand pumps are fine and can create a wide range of sensations from gentle pulling to searing pain. They are not good for induced lactation but do have their place in the toy box. They should be used with caution as especially the old fashioned bicycle pumps can cause tissue damage. These too can be found on eBay. They are usually made of glass with a rubber bulb. If purchasing, make sure the bulb is still pliable. There are more modern versions in the Adult section sold as sex toys but I can not personally recommend their quality.
I hope I answered your process, proceedure and health questions. Sorry this is so long. I wish you and geri much luck.
The secret to induced lactation is patience and consistancy. A good quality, electric, double pump will help also.
Lactation is caused by stimulating two hormones, prolaction and oxytocin. The hormones are stimulated by breast and nipple, manipulation; sucking, massage, kneeding and pumping. There are herbal remedies on the market touted to help with milk supply. Fenugreek capsules, found in health food stores, can be taken two caps-three times daily. The seeds can be infused into tea. There is also a Mothers Milk Tea made. The drug Reglan (metoclopramide), usually prescribed for gastric reflux, can also help to stimulate milk production. The usual dose is 10 mg. every eight hours for 10 to 14 days. This drug works best if the woman is postpartum but some have had success with it without pregnancy. It can be used for two courses but one of the side effects is depression so coninued use is not recomended.
A commercial grade, electric pump is best for breast stimulation. Hand pumps and battery pumps are inexpensive and available in many stores but do not offer suffucient suction or the cycles per minute that are needed to adequately simulate the breast. Because most battery operated models do not offer suction regulation, tissue damage is a consideration also with hand pumps, you control the suction and cycles so it takes some timing and coordination. Remember, you will not have the advantage of postpartum hormones so you will need a quality product that will stimulate the nerve endings. These can be rented (1800-Tell_YOU). Ameda/Egnell and Medela are companies who rent and sell these products. You can find them online also.
Many women use Medela's Pump in Style model, it is light weight, portable and efficient. It will run approx $300, less on eBay.
Okay, you have done your pump research and made your purchase, decided whether or not you were going to use drug/herb therapy, and you are ready to roll. The next step is pumping.
Regular pumping is a must. Your goal is to simulate a baby's feeding schedule and suckling. If you have bought a high grade pump, you will have the stimulation part licked. A recommended schedule is ten minutes of stimulation per side every 2 1/2 hours and at least twice at night. The hormone levels are highest at night so make use of them. Don't get hung up on the pumping alone, this can be a shared experience. Sucking and massage also will stimulate the hormones so don't hesitate to do your part as well. Do not fear these hormones, they are a woman's friend. Depending on the length of time a woman lactates, the hormones can help to lay on bone mass and induce a feeling of well being.
I recommend a warm compress and breast massage (like a breast self exam) before pumping to start the hormone production. It sort of jump starts the process and you get the best results from your pumping session. Make sure you have a good fit so the suction will be strong. Wetting the funnel that goes over the nipple/areola will help create a good suction. Push the funnel straight into the breast tissue towards the chest wall to compress the ducts behind the areola. Follow the instructions given with the pump to avoid sore nipples if this is desired. If the tissue becomes dried or cracked medical grade lanolin (Lansino- walmart or drug store) can be used. Use moist wound treatment, keeping the area covered with the lanolin.
Some women will produce large quanities of milk, others just a few drops. Some will only produce a creamy/golden colored substance that is a pre-milk (colostrum).
It can take days or weeks to see results.
If she produces an abundant supply she may become engorged (breast become full and tender). The breast will have to be emptied regularly to avoid this if you desire. Another problem that can arise if the breast are not properly emptied is mastitis (inflamation if the ducts). Regular emptying of the breast will help to avoid this also. As you can see this is a high maintainence proceedure but well worth it for many.
I would like to address the practice of induced lactation in the context of a BDSM relationship. The very act of regularly pumping can be a very submissive thing for a sub to do for her Dom/Domme. Pumping alone is an act of loving obedience that connects the partners. The production of milk is a gift she can freely offer Him/Her as a result of her patience, and obedience. Keeping a pumping diary and having the sub record her thoughts and feelings about pumping is also something that may be tried. This is also a good way to assure a regular schedule is maintained and to record milk production.
As for the use of hand and battery operated pumps in play, the hand pumps are fine and can create a wide range of sensations from gentle pulling to searing pain. They are not good for induced lactation but do have their place in the toy box. They should be used with caution as especially the old fashioned bicycle pumps can cause tissue damage. These too can be found on eBay. They are usually made of glass with a rubber bulb. If purchasing, make sure the bulb is still pliable. There are more modern versions in the Adult section sold as sex toys but I can not personally recommend their quality.
I hope I answered your process, proceedure and health questions. Sorry this is so long. I wish you and geri much luck.
One nice benefit
One nice benefit to lactation is weight loss! Much of the fat you consume goes naturally into the milk; and while lactating, I lost weight without going on awful diets or exercising any more than usual. You just have to be ready when the milk "lets down," or things can get rather moist and embarrassing.
good luck. It's so worth it!
One nice benefit to lactation is weight loss! Much of the fat you consume goes naturally into the milk; and while lactating, I lost weight without going on awful diets or exercising any more than usual. You just have to be ready when the milk "lets down," or things can get rather moist and embarrassing.
good luck. It's so worth it!
~Artful's pet~
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With Artful's permission,
Brewer's Yeast works well too. It is less expensive than Fenugreek and is easier to find. I have used both Fenugreek and Brewer's Yeast together, but I WOULD NOT suggest it together to start off with. You may indeed get overly ingorged.
~pet~
Brewer's Yeast works well too. It is less expensive than Fenugreek and is easier to find. I have used both Fenugreek and Brewer's Yeast together, but I WOULD NOT suggest it together to start off with. You may indeed get overly ingorged.
~pet~
