All Comments on 'A Double Standard'

Being the first to comment is becoming almost as dangerous around here as posting a story is for the authors, but I will give my moronic opinion. When I ran down the board this morning this was the only story that I felt any desire to read and that is sad. This is a good story with plenty of background and characterization. I am sure that there will be a lot of people who will believe that they know more about what happened than the protagonist or even the author, and that she is a slut and he is a wimpy Marine who should have done something even stupider then letting the stripper get at him..... The story as written is an interesting one with a lot of sad moments. Thanks for the story, Woodie.

at least as far as I can see first he was setup ( yes he could have avoided it) but what happened was not by intent on his part. But she deliberately set out to hurt him whether she cheated or not her actions were designed to bring her husband pain & doubt as to how far she would go to punish him. A marriage works best with lots of communication, if what she is communicating is that she is acting single then there is no basis for a marriage.

Not my favorite cause they are both dumb, but people do really dumb things every day. Well written on a really bad lit. day, so a lot of people will comment. My wife would be highly pissed off if I fucked a striper, same as I would be if she did it, and once this happens trust and communication are the first things to suffer so anything can happen. You learn to stay out of bad situations and never get so drunk that your not in full control at all times, Thanks for sharing.

How long had he been gone? How long before was her plan in action and they didnt have sex? And when was the last time they had sex before this breaking apart? And she wasnt showing and he didnt realize she was pregnant? Who is stupid here? Exactly when is the DNA testing being done to determine if he is actually the father? Just because she didnt fuck Stan does not mean she wasnt fucking someone else. And the statement she had not fucked Stan or his wife, she didnt say she didnt elsewhere. When you write a mussy reconciliation story please try and get the facts together and solve all of the potential black holes.

Everyone went away happy as a romantic story should end. Nice one Woodman keep the stories coming.

This is a very good story, and the characters are very real. He did something stupid, yes he was set up, but that wasn't an excuse anonymous would accept from the wife and I'd have to re-read this to remember if he made it clear to the wife that he was setup.

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Her reaction was stupid too! Duh, when you're badly hurt you do stupid things. What's really sad is those poor readers who can't accept the story as it's written. IN THIS STORY, SHE DIDN'T CHEAT!

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The author is very plain on this point and how sad that for some people that they can't accept that. Have you been so badly damaged that you can't believe that someone wouldn't cheat? Perhaps you are the sort who cheats and thus assumes everyone else does. How sad either way.

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Is is fair to point out that the reactions of both parties to the cheating are over the top? Sure, but that's what makes this an interesting story. Simple cheating followed by a few frosty days and then a diminished relationship, while probably true in many cases isn't that interesting.

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My critique is on the baby card. It's a bit too neat and the reconciliation a bit too complete, or perhaps too quick. When you've been as depressed and removed as he has been, it takes time to recover. You can totally believe you've been wrong, but the pain you've suffered takes a toll. That too is part of human nature. He can be overjoyed that he was wrong, that they're going to have a baby, but there's no magic wand to eliminate the actions of the last month.

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What I'm trying to say is that this couple needs some time to heal and perhaps some counseling by a Dutch uncle to get past the hurt each has inflicted upon the other. If they don't develop better communication skills this episode will be a cancer in their marriage. I'd like to see a bit more work on that healing rather than "and they lived happily ever after." Still, that's just me, and the real drama has been resolved. A very good story and very well written.

<p>Personally I found it interesting because while he did it, he didn't try to gloss over what he did. He admitted his fault in the story, and confessed to his wife.</p>

<p>I like the line where she accused him of only confessing because he was sorry he got caught, and he said something along the lines of he was never caught because he confessed. Too many story try to excuse away why cheating "isn't all that bad" but your story had the guilty person trying to do the right thing, and take the blame for what he did.</p>

<p>I mean with the setup of the story, most characters wouldn't have leaned on the fact they were setup to be blackmailed right off the bat as the reason they weren't at fault, but John's character couldn't stop pointing out that <i>he was the one who put <b>himself</b> in the position to be trapped</i>, and if he had more common sense he shouldn't have ever done that. That was a refreshing point to be made for responsible actions for characters.</p>

<p>And the way he fixed the blackmailer was also unique to me as well. He removed all the leverage the blackmailer had and he was double exposed again for who he was</p>

<p>Thanks for the story</p>

-Risq

<p>I would like to thank the author for giving us a very thought provoking story that is really designed to expose our own prejudices. The double standard in the title actually lies with us as the readers.</p>

<p>Just to briefly recap, <b>the husband in this story commits adultery with a stripper</b>. This act of infidelity is the culmination of a night too filled with drink. <b>There is no setup here</b> and certainly the husband does not claim to having been setup. To his credit, the husband refuses to bend to blackmail, then has himself checked for STDs, and finally tells his wife of the incident. He comes across as being truly remorseful. However, in the midst of his confession he states one inartful lie:</p>

<p><i>“...I'll do anything to show you how sorry I am, anything to try and make it up to you. Please don't give up on me and don't give up on us."</i></p>

<p>In response, the angry and hurt wife demands a separation to consider their marriage. </p>

<p><i>“...I need some time for myself so that is what I'm taking. We will

be separated for all intents and purposes. I will be living like a single

woman."</i><p>

<p>and she goes on to clarify:</p>

<p><i>"That doesn't mean that I'm going to be dating or seeing other men. I

mean, that I will do what I want without checking in or telling you

about it first or explaining afterward. I will have no one to account to

for my actions."</i></p>

<p>There is no widely accepted time limit for forgiveness. The wife had the right to take whatever time it took to get over the breach of trust. In fact, the story gives no promise that she could or would resume the marriage after this period. So the risk of this solution should be borne totally by her husband. He created the problem and he should own the fix.</p>

<p><b>The wife's subsequent behavior was completely appropriate. She kept her word, and neither dated nor saw any other men. She was merely visiting with a friend and his wife. Any interpretation otherwise was the fault of her husband and not her own. And yet, the wife is never given her due. Her feelings, her rights, are never taken as seriously as those of the husband.</b></p>

<p>I found it interesting that the only other two parties to know the full story, her in-laws, gave her inability to forgive her husband as much weight as her husband's infidelity. Incredibly, her sister-in-law even remarks.</p>

<p><i>"... It's not that I don't believe you John, I just can't believe that she would let things go on for so long."</i></p>

<p>Even her sister-in-law sets a time limit on the wife to forgive her husband. It is this inequality of two supposed infractions that is at the heart of this story. <b>So much of the story has to do with the actions that stem from the husband ascribing to his wife the cheating that he had committed in the first place. She never cheated, but he could still not abide by his original pledge and let her work on her own to try and forgive him.</b></p>

<p>Whether the wife took 2 weeks, 2 months, or 2 years to work through her own anger and hurt and forgive her husband, this was her time, and strictly her choice. How dare anyone tell her how long she should take to forgive! Were the roles reversed would limits be set on the husband?</p>

<p>This is one of those stories where I am anxious to read the comments by other readers, if only to see how far the double standard really applies. In particular, it might be very interesting to read comments from women.</p>

<p>P.S. I would also like to thank Literotica for allowing public comments. Oftentimes the comments are integral to the story and enhance the authors work. I only hope that these exchanges always remain civil.</P>

All you need to do to determine a double standard is imagine the woman doing the things the man did and ask if it would be forgivable and if the marriage could survive. So lets do it,

A wife on a business trip goes to a strip bar gets drunk and has sex with a male stripper. Should she be forgiven because one of her coworkers set it up? Should her husband trust her again because it only happened when she got drunk? . . . Ofcourse its a double standard.

Also, (and this didn't exactly happen in this story because the author wanted a happy ending), there is a recurring theme, a complete double standard, in these types of stories, that a husband getting drunk and having sex is considered to somehow be a less serious form of cheating than a woman getting angry because her husband cheated, and then losing her temper and cheating on him. The argument always goes like this, "I didn't plan it, you did." So what!

Ofcourse the husband didn't plan it, why the fuck would he want to hurt her? Did she overcook the brisket? The fact is, she's been such a good and faithful wife, that the only way he can even come close to cheating on her is to get stinking drunk first. She on the other hand has just had her whole fucking world destroyed by the very same asshole she had believed when he got up in front of her and all of their families and friends and promised to love her and take care of her and be faithful to her and to try to make her happy for their whole lives.

Now I'm not implying that two wrongs make a right, but I really hate it when these sorts of stories end with the husband walking out in a self righteous huff "You just went too far dear, just too far." and the wife crying on the floor with tears in her eyes begging the cheating bastard to come back. Now that's a double standard.

According to TE Ross even though the Husband CONFESSED freely as part of foiled a blackmail plot... the wife has all the right to take however long as she wants... even if it 2 years!

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think about that folks. A ONE time drunken affair that the husband freely admits to and will do anything to fix and the wife has the right to pretend to be a <b>SINGLE woman</b>... a phrase the wife used...which is 100% justified for as long as she wants... to according to TE Ross.

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By the way Note how TE Ross somehow "overlooked" the wife's use of that phrase....

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Think about what would of the wife's reaction been IF she had found out what her husband did-- in other words if the husband had NOT confessed.

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<b>For the wife to use THAT phrase "a single woman" and let it go on for weeks and NOT even ATTEMPT to talk to her husband ... THAT is over the top. </b>

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Again this point is overlooked by TE Ross. The husband's drunken 1 time act has part of scheme by the other guy who got fired. The husband IS responsible. But the wife DELIBERATELY went out of her way to hurt her husband and REFUSED to communicate.

It really hurts a story when every character is stupid or a pain in the ass. John and Alyssa are dumb, and Sean and Julie are sanctimonious cretins.

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Julie yelled at me to stop, she threatened to never speak to me again if I left. What could I do, I stopped and came on into the room.

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What could he have done? Tell her "Fine, that's the way you want it to be, so be it" and walk off.

This was a good story but you didnt get the question that I implied in my statement. Yes her story was she didnt cheat. But to be pregnant you have to be screwed, at least normally you do. They had not been to bed and screwed in a long time, just how pregnant was she and if she was that pregnant why didnt the husband notice the body changes going on in her? I knew when both my wives were pregnant within a month that they were just by looking at them and neither of them were skinny to begin with, good shapes yes, skinny no. You dont have to have been cheated on to know what pregnancy requires and how long it takes. Try to mature and get beyond the cover story the writer did not in this story say how pregnant she was nor when the pregnancy occurred. Your assumptions and gloss overs dont make it so.

When you accuse someone in a story of cheating you need to have a basis. The story clearly states that the baby was conceived two weeks before he cheated.

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You said:

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"Try to mature and get beyond the cover story the writer did not in this story say how pregnant she was nor when the pregnancy occurred. Your assumptions and gloss overs dont make it so."

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The story says:

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"We spent the time like we planned at the miner's cabin and reconnected on all levels. By the timing Alyssa had conceived two weeks prior to my trip and all the hoopla. We were us again, plus one. Actually it was plus two. We found out at that doctor's appointment that Alyssa was carrying twins."

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That's pretty clear to me. Why didn't he notice? I'm not sure. The fact is that readers have to accept clear statements by the writer when you talk about a story. Since you've chosen to remain anonymous, I don't know if you're part of the "torch the bitch" crowd. I have grown tired of those folks. The number of serious "Cheating Wives" has dropped to almost nothing because of their "1-bombs," and I find the real human emotions found in those stories interesting.

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Thus when I see an unfair critique like yours, I've chosen to respond. I continue to maintain that folks who ignore the story to trash a wife have or have had serious problems and that's sad.

....the only blatant and unassailable hypocrisy in the plot line is the male leads assertion that he didn't get caught.What part about confessing before your blackmailer puts the vice on you reconciles that.This attempt at mitigation makes me favor the wife.And he was a dumb-ass for reacting to her separation as if she was cheating on him.And she didn't even cheat.Woodman writes a better story each time out,but seems to have a problem with males crying.I consider any person who bottles up emotions to be an insecure wimp.And this means you so-called macho men who don't cry.Afraid of showing weakness?This is what you call courage?Pistolpackinpete

Well, well, well your characters are stupid and dumb. They kept on making mistakes. But your writing was good and really like the story. Though i am a male and i really want to know if alyssa made the same mistake instead of john what he would have done?

The stripper and the pictures were all a set up. Remember the strippers comment "that should just about do it don't you think Pat?" I kept that comment in mind all through the story thinking it was significant but it never cane back up. Oh well....Great story Thanks....Gene

Sure, he shouldn't have allowed himself to be in a strip club. But so shouldn't women get drunk! This was NOT consensual sex - that is the definition of RAPE.

The wife was extremely dumb. Even if she's not dating (ahem, quite questionable) or sleeping with other men, how does it improve their relationship to get back together? She shouldn't have done that. That aside, even if she was going to go ahead with it she should have stopped when she observed that he had lost weight and looked tired! Is her faith in him so far gone that she does not believe that he did not have consensual sex and and that he is suffering? If so, then she should divorce him. If not, then he should divorce her. What a stupid blind woman.

Even seeing another man for her marital problems is another problem. Whatever the husband assumed, he was right to just leave her. She might love him, but stupidity on her part can be a crime. In any case it had at that point destroyed him. Even if he found he was wrong he would be humiliated for jumping to the wrong conclusion. She should have just left him alone because she had kept up her single-woman lifestyle for far TOO LONG! That means any assumptions he made was justified, whether right OR wrong!

Luckily for them both .. her more than him .. his brother and sister-in-law forced them together, and they did live happily ever after. I get the feeling he would be happy even without her. She would live with her actions of driving them away. It's funny how the person at fault changes so rapidly, isn't it? That's part of the problem with adultery and rape - it is difficult, and often the best thing is to just separate. It's just a good thing for them both that they could get past the issues (with help)! Happiness is happiness, and there's no point really fighting it when you have no hurt left! Thank you, woodman! :)

What more is there to say. Momentarily he had balls..you took care of that!

He's a wimp because she had dinner with a friend/business associate and he didn't divorce her? That's like cutting off your dick because it hurts when it gets stone hard.

And what's with all the analysis and comments about what REALLY should have happened to prevent the story be worth reading? It's obvious why some of us are commenting instead of writing.

This is the first story by you that I've read and I must say that I really liked it. The story was written a lot like a typical one by DGHear, who happens to be my all-time favorite author. Good character development and a believable story line are necessary, in my opinion, for a good story, which this one definitely has, but another necessity, for me, is a true ending. It doesn't always have to be a feel good ending like this story but something besides just stopping the story as so many authors do.

The only reason I gave this story a four star rating instead of a five is because I wasn't sure where you were going with the character John. I thought he acted a little wimpy in the middle of the story. Other than that, you really hit paydirt.

Yet another good treatise on what a lack of communication can do and the danger of putting oneself into a situation where they can be tempted.

Check the DNA

Husband confesses and shows true contrition. Wife learns that he was probably set up, and may even have been fed a date rape drug in order to blackmail him by a former co-worker. Wife does not even consider that possibility and essentially abandons him while remaining in the house to further torture him. She needs to take a serious course in marital/relationship communication. Alyssa is the real 'cheater' in this story because she reacts irrationally and immaturely, when she should have sought serious counseling to re-establish communication with husband. This was a case of one time infidelity and not a long term serious affair. She went overboard. Dan

But this went quite a bit too far. I am surprised he stayed around as long. If she still loved him (and according to the story she did) she should have known to cut the torture off after so long a time. She could see how miserable he was. If I had been him I would have left the country and she could have had the babies on her own. But a really good story (and I realize that it is just a story). Thank you for writing.

Was a divorce. Couple of pigheaded fools. The same problems will show up down the line. He should have turned around the minute he saw the strange car in the brother's driveway figuring that his brother had lied to him. Gone back to the cabin, packed his stuff, found an attorney, given him the power of attorney and moved a long way away from the trouble. Maybe in a year or two he could have called his brother on a throw away phone and checked in. Maybe not. Maybe just sent an e-mail from an anonymous computer to let the brother know he was still alive.

the last few comments. He'd made a mistake, a terrible mistake.

Of course there were better ways of telling Alyssa but hindsight is a no comfort at all to a desperate man.

Her reaction was foolish, but she would have been shell shocked by his confession, again hindsight is a no comfort.

Yes, the memory would stay with them, but only to make sure that in the future they would really try to understand what the other person was thinking

Walking before talking unless some ones life is in danger is a very, very bad idea.

If he had written his apology and confession to Alyssa so that she could read it on her own, she could have time to think about what she wanted and whether she ever wanted to see her again and if he had asked her boss to make sure she was OK, that would have been better.

The alarm bells should be going off in your head. Remember how angry she was with you. Remember how she left right away to stay with her sister? I think his first reaction was the correct one. Ignore the Sister-in-law and hit the road. Too much water under the bridge for two stubborn people. Well told story. Maybe the wrong ending?

Nice story. Glad that they got it together. People who read these stories want to make everything black and white. If a person cheated then they deserve to have revenge taken on them and live a life broke and alone. Life is NEVER that simple. There are a couple of factors when evaluating a betrayal. The first thing to evaluate is who the person is that betrayed you. If the person is a selfish narcissist, then they were acting in their nature. If the person's betrayal is out of character of how they normally are, then you have some room to work with. Is this a pattern of past behavior, or is this out of the blue? The next thing to look at is WHY. Why did they do this? What were the circumstances surrounding the betrayal? Finally you look at how their betrayal of you is affecting them. Are they sorry? What are they willing to do win your trust back. Each situation is different and warrants a different response. Figuring these questions out will help you decide if this is the beginning of a pattern or a one time thing. For those of you who believe that every time someone betrays your trust then you should automatically kick them out of your life, then I guarantee you will be a very lonely and bitter person.

Now with the story, the male was drunk and got caught up in the situation. He instantly regretted it. He had never cheated in the past and he was very sorry. He was willing to pay for his mistake and lived life as a separated husband to give his wife room to heal. He was worth giving another chance. Of course it would take time, but they can heal from that. Her betrayal of him was the same. She didn't sleep with someone, but she intentionally hurt him for the purpose of getting even. That is still a betrayal. Nevertheless, she was hurt and angry and needed to heal. These two should not be divorced. They obviously love each other and do not make it a habit to hurt each other. No matter who did what, these two belong together. And if she were the one who cheated, I would say the same thing.

She admitted to not sleeping with Stan. I did not read about if there was anyone else

We've read countless stories where a man's wife cheats and he runs away for X number of days or weeks or even years. Then we read a story about a man cheating and when his wife comes home, hears about it and runs away, "she must be cheating instead of staying with her sister!!"

LOL, are you guys fucking for real?! Ironic that all these remarks are coming out in a story called "A Double Standard."

The only thing accusation you can rightfully make is that she's an idiot for coming up with such a hair-brained scheme. When a wedge forms in your relationship you don't seek out actions that will widen the gap. That's exactly what she did. A man's pride can only be stepped on for so long. He reached the breaking point and in the moment of truth she couldn't properly explain herself.

Buster, check for STD's. If you're stupid enough to go back to her you best have DNA done on the kids. No surprise; you are NOT the father. She is a liar and a cheat! And those who want to soft soap it are so full of stupidity that if stupidity was an ocean you could float an aircraft carrier on the stupidity.

and practice what I preach. TK U MLJ LV NV

The writer wrote it and there is no one who can dispute his world - he invented it LOL.

Her explanation holds water - she did push him too hard she was all that Julie and Sean said so was he - we KNOW he fucked up - give it a rest -

As for DNA the kids were conceived weeks before the meetings with Stan no reason to doubt them - .

Thanks for a good read -

I think that she went so far around the bend that she couldn't see it. If she was that furious at him she should have divorced him. That stupid plan to make him hurt was just too much for too long. She went beyond appropriate response by about 2 miles. With her frame of mind and absolute blind rage, I would definitely have the kids swabbed because there is no telling what she might have done, she threatened it. All that meeting with an old classmate bullshit? Too much. Then to be ambushed by the people he trusted, well maybe he needed to get a DNA test done on his brother to see if they were really related. Good intentions? Paving stones for the road to Hell. By tricking and lying to him they actually took her side in this cluster fuck.

One constant in all of these types of stories, family and friends always turn on the guy, take the wife's side no matter what and lie and trick and manipulate the man to do what the wife wants him to do. This little wifey only decided to try to find him because she was pregnant. Now, I will admit that the writing on this tale is top notch, got a pretty good rise out of me. Well done.

I think he sees the rental car, knows exactly who's inside the house, turns around and heads on down the road - permanently. A man with his skills could live and work under the radar for a very long time. They'd never find him. And I don't think he'd call his brother or sister-in-law for years given the fact that they betrayed his confidence and tried to set him up. I don't believe, with her sister probably egging her on, that Allyssa didn't cheat on him. It would have been years and maybe longer before he finds out that Allyssa had given birth and I think he would never have believed at that point that they were his children. And then came the divorce and this story comes to its logical conclusion given the fact that they are both reactionary hardheads.

I don't believe in all these games that husbands and wives want to play. The fact is he cheated, forget all the rationalizations, he cheated. He wasn't drugged and he wasn't raped. Boo Hoo, he drank too much, tough-he cheated. In my opinion, the wife has 2 correct choices to make. Either divorce him or really try to forgive him. No games. If she divorces him, he deserves it and good for her. If she wants to really try and forgive him, and they both work on their marriage, that's OK too. Thanks for an interesting story.

And 8 months later, Little Patrick and Patsy (twins) were born. Alyssa told John that because they were twins, they had a 10 month gestation, and he knew she would never lie. He made up with Pat also, who had apparently turned over a new leaf, and loved hanging around their house with He, Alyssa, and their kids. He knew Pat was sorry for what he had done, because he always had this grin on his face when John and Alyssa were around.

Something seems to have been overlooked in all this. According to the story he heard the hooker talk to the guy who hated him, and who tried to blackmail him, yet was too dim to ever suspect that he was set up. Given the situation, having a hooker ready and being prepared to take pictures, I would suspect he was drugged. No one in the story even though about this. Sure, the asshole got fired, but he nearly destroyed a marriage and two lives. Somehow just losing a job doesn't strike me as a just punishment.

The husband was eaten up by guilt, the wife was a bitch and a half and both were stupider than a bag of rocks. Instead of going at each other they should have gone after the guy who set it up. Given that in the story they didn't then they should have just tried to be civil to each other and split with the least amount of pain possible. Now if the husband had cheated on purpose I would be all BTB...as in burn the bastard. But how often do we read about wives getting drunk and blaming a slip on having done so? Generally the comments on those stories are all on the wife's side and concentrate on how the husband should fall all over himself forgiving her. The double standard cuts both ways and generally in the woman's favor.

Nice that in the story they worked it out, but I still couldn't bring myself to favorite this one. Sorry.

Everyone missed the set up. Read what the stripper said.

Very good writing. I particularly like the lack of the sex sounds.

Ed Grocott

edgrocott@gmail.com

That either one believes the BS coming out of the others mouth is a miracle. Too many mistakes in this one. There isn't a strip club in the US that would allow a man to have his pants and underwear off in the general part of the club. Quick way to lose their license. The pregnancy thing wasn't believable either. They've spent too much time apart for him to be the Father. Can you say DNA test? The minute he walks into the house and sees Julie he would have been in his truck and gone before any of them could have said another word. Much more likely when he saw the strange car he would have peered into the window to see who was there. Then he would have been gone before they even saw him. Even without that, why would he believe for even a second that Julie had not slept with any number of men in an attempt to get even with him? He's just going to take her word after the way she treated him? That was the dumbest part of this story. This story just tried too hard to put them back together. They never really resolved his cheating. This was a divorce. The only question was which one of them filed first. Well written, but unbelievable story.

H cheats, then he assumes she is cheating and disappears. Double standard my ass. This guy was just an asshole. She should have left him and just gotten half.

I finally got around to reading this story. For some reason the title had sort of put me off. As usual with this author's stories it was a well constructed and entreating tale.

to Pat, who presumably set this whole thing up other than being fired. Tried and found guilty in absentia, I want to hear about the little tussle that left him with 2 broken legs and arms and the broken jaw. Eating soup through a straw gets really old really soon. Great story, anyway.

DHL

breaks up a marriage and lifestyle. TK U MLJ LV NV

But would have honestly had a slight question about paternity.

Good story though.

I noticed that good old Apple's habit of flying in words got to me in my first review. It is suppose to read an entertaining story. I never have been able to proof read what I wrote.

....The loose thread that sticks in my craw (also noted by others) is Pat and the obvious setup at the strip club. So where's the comeuppance (besides losing his job) for that bit of treachery?

Now on to the next story in your collection.... ;-)

1. Get DNA on that squid in the sack ASAP!

2. Baby's coming so Stan of course denies paternity and it's back to cuckold John.

3. Fabricating a cover story, especially when trying to convince morons of John, Sean and Julie's caliber is kindergarten level easy.

4. Alyssa spent multiple nights with Stan, had dinner with Stan, drank with Stan, went to Stan's room in a hotel. Those are FACTS!

5. No decent wife goes into a hotel room unescorted with a man not her husband.

6. Sean and Julie the "Self Righteous Fixers Of All Things Broken", flat out betrayed John without remorse because THEY knew what was RIGHT. Funny I've heard that only GOD Almighty was omniscient.

So fucking many things wrong with this train wreak of a story...Sigh, fuck it, I'm done!

Yeah, what he said! Total case of a crappy RAAC story with BOTH the spouses being total assholes. Hubby cheats, confesses, asks for forgiveness, gets cut off at the knees. Wife cheats, blows smoke up everybody's asses and saddles hubby wit Stans spawn. Fuck people, just get a freaking divorce and move on.

Pathetic Story!

He only confessed because of the threat of being blackmailed.

First, the author should stick to writing about the Army or the Navy because he obviously doesn’t know jack about the Marine Corps. Secondly, he, John, should have pounded his brother’s face for lying to him and sticking his nose into his business. God, I hate meddling family members, with a passion.

A lot of the fun of a story is the comments. This time the comments got me worked up enough (irritated) to comment on the comments.

You say the twins are not John's. But woodmanone said they were, even explaining the time frame. So you have not changed the story, you've only imagined it your way. But it still remains the way woodmanone wrote it. You tried to rewrite the story, but woodmanone has not budged.

You say John should have had a heads-up with the unknown car and acted differently. But never-the-less, he passed it off and went in. In spite of your rewrite, woodmanone's story did not budge. It is still as he conceived and told it.

What you could do, is to write your own story in which things DO turn out your way. Please do not turn off comments or anonymous. Let them rewrite your story, like you do to others.

You may wish things were different in life. It does not change it. You can say you wish it different. That's about it. Ditto with the stories. So tell me you wish the story were different, but please do not tell me that it is. (Maybe the author can conceive of people acting differently than you can.)

Paul in Oklahoma

. . . by the fact that what drives it is that they were both dumb.

He should have confessed the day he got back.

She should never have set out to punish him to that extent. Way, way more than his offense merited.

And why wasn't she listening to her sister?

Well, people sometimes really are that dumb. Plots that depend to that extent on stupidity are inferior, but not necessarily unrealistic. And outside of that, it's well written and believable.

Good job. I'm just sorry I wasted my time wading through each and every comment. Even if I am adding one more.

-- WWC3

WilCox49

Babies are born both blonde. Wife and hubby both dark brunettes. She gives lame excuse that blonde is in her family. He doesn’t buy it. Two years later as the kids grow it becomes more evident he is not the father he has a dna test done without telling his wife. Confronts her with the news, she admits she had a a short affair with a young solider on leave. He checks finds out it’s true and the guy just got married and lives across the country. He decides he loves the kids but tells his wife that from now on he will have a hall pass whenever he wants or their done. She reluctantly agrees. They have tree more kids that are his but when out of town on business she never knows if he is getting some strange and he never tells her but always has her pack condoms which he throws away before returning home.

I am always surprised ho someone intends to save or fix a marriage by leaving and having no communication. Yes, right away the first reaction is anger, touting, and getting some space. But once you cool down you talk it out or you leave. Saying she will be "single" and not communicating is not helpful at all. I am not saying forgive easily and such but you don't or can't fix something that way.

I believe her story, but still would get DNA on the kids. Trust, but verify, so to speak. Her school friend should have realized he was poking a bear by pretending to sleep with his wife, and should be grateful he even survived that stupidity.

I liked this story. I think everyone misses the point that the stripper was a set up intended to wreck a career, get revenge and destroy a marriage. Nothing would have happened in the club with out that fact.

Uh. What’s about the bait we were fed that good ole Pat had performed a blackmail scheme by somehow luring them to the stripper place and then into the private show? We are to think that group of guys just happened to go where Pat knew a stripper? That our protagonist got more drunk than he realized, not mildly drugged instead? Also, Allysa’s “plan” did not seem like much of a plan.

I thought that Stan was going to be a shrink that Alyssa was seeing and I was going to give you such a roasting.

I did like this story, husband did all the right things (other than the stripper) including going to the boss with the photos as proof. Because he did he actually got justice for being set up by his rival. The biggest issue in this story and others stories, is the lame excuse of the alcohol for his actions, sorry that's NO excuse. Can't handle it don't do it. He knew he should not be there, but he stayed. Not an excuse I would except or should any spouse. JK

Those two should have been neutered... they shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.

Really dislike anonymous comments in general...chickenshits

"He should have confessed the day he got back.

She should never have set out to punish him to that extent. Way, way more than his offense merited.

And why wasn't she listening to her sister?"

He was set up but she cruelly planned everything. Bitch.

Started out BTB but I liked the ending. If fact, I like almost all of your writings. Thanks

Know it is not my story but right then at the end he should look her in the eye and say "I love you, but I do want a DNA test on the kids as soon as it is possible". If she dumps him it is for the best. If not then they know they can move on but both need to work on trust.

A pretty darn good story. Aren't Happily ever after tales just great? LP

Just barely 4stars. A bit convoluted of a storyline for my taste. The whole idea of punishing the spouse by making them believe that you are cheating also... Is just a cruel and viscous thing to do. People should be upfront if they intend to "get even". At least then they are making things clear and decisions can be made. Her decision would set the course of the rest of their life... Together or apart. Take a stand Ladies and Gentlemen... Not some unscrupulous, tortuous , cruel plan to cause additional suffering.

I enjoyed this little gem. For all the folks that wanted a btb, write your own story. If you can do better, do so. If you can't, shut the fuck up.

This is tough as he will never know if and when she does get even. She may have already just not with Stan.

I know he screwed up but if I were him I would not want that sword over my head. I would ask for a DNA test and I would never trust her again just as she would not trust me.

Ungh seriously this was just stupid he cheated they went to therapy WOW REALLY 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Great Story

Another brilliant offering