Essay: My Rape Fantasies

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For women only. What about our rape fantasies?
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LynnGKS
LynnGKS
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For women only! Guys -- go elsewhere (especially you angry wimps). You won't like it.

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I have written stories in a variety of categories, and they have received good and bad reviews plus a lot of letters from readers, mostly guys. In e-mails a lot of guys ask me about my fantasies and especially about my rape fantasies. After I read a great essay by "superstition" on the subject of women's rape fantasies, I wrote a story about rape called "The Late Shift" which was a relatively non-violent physical rape story.

Then I read one of "superstition's" favorite rape stories called "She is Captured by a Bosnian Sniper" written by "furrybert" and it was much more violent than other rape stories I had read. Frankly, it was more than I could take. I started to turn on at first but then lost it as the violence became too severe for me. Still, it had the essential elements of a rape fantasy that I note below.

The contrast in these two stories emphasized to me what a very delicate instrument erotic fantasy really is. It must be fine tuned (almost on an individual basis) to achieve its goal of arousal. Of course, the same thing is true for cuck stories where the degree of humiliation may be different for different readers -- the right amount arouses -- too much turns off or angers the reader. I am sure the same rule applies to BDSM, gay, and other categories of stories. Arousal requires that the writer consider quantitative as well as qualitative factors in the story. No one size fits all ids.

Words matter a great deal in this equation because words produce pictures in our brains. A story can move from seriously arousing to ludicrous when the wrong word is used. Consider my story "The Late Shift" in which the girl becomes aroused by the hands of her rapists: One says, as he feels her wetness, "The bitch is getting wet" -- which I think is arousing because the girl now realizes that her attackers know she is getting horny -- and this embarrasses her. What if instead I had used a much stronger vulgarity e.g. "The cum-slut wants to fuck." I had not prepared the reader for this sort of thing. I had been building her arousal gradually, so introducing such harsh terms might have diminished the story sharply for many readers, as they understood that the writer was simply looking for a dirty word -- not trying to convey the more subtle meaning of gradual arousal.

Such considerations as these prompted me to examine my own rape fantasies (and here I extend rape to include unwilling or coerced sex). Actually as a fantasy, I greatly prefer coerced sex, where it is not physical force, but other forms of coercion that are used to force me to have sex. The reason is that the decision to submit is my own, so I am participating in my own "rape," which enhances my weakness. A favorite story of mine is "Innocent---But Disciplined" which is a two part series by "ladyellen", in which a teacher is forced into sex by her superiors. This story best illustrates what turns me on.

There are three key elements producing my arousal in any effective rape or coercive fantasy: 1) extreme reluctance on my part to having sex, but being forced to do it against my will; 2) my enjoyment of the sex being made obvious by my juices flowing and my orgasm; and 3) the knowledge of the "rapist" that I have had an orgasm and his laughing at my helplessness to do other than enjoy his unwanted attentions. The formula requires that he have power over me: I am weak and helpless and the obverse, he is strong.

Weakness, I believe, is the key element in most women's fantasy life. Equally important is my perception of strength in the man -- whether I care for him or not. There were strong hints of this in the superb essay by "superstition" on female rape fantasies, but I think it requires even more emphasis. Rape excites not only because it is "taboo" -- but also, because it is a vivid demonstration of male strength and female weakness which may be the essential component of female arousal.

But if this is so, then the rape fantasy is merely an extension of (or an exaggeration of) many other female fantasies that arouse because the woman feels her weakness in the face of male strength. Female fantasies, like male fantasies are legion, but the weakness/strength concept, I believe, plays a central role in most female fantasies.

I am on delicate ground here and I may hear from some straight but very assertive women that I have gone too far. Does the fantasy of an assertive woman never include her seducing some unsuspecting guy? Of course it does and so do my fantasies. So, how "strong" can the guy be (or how "weak" the gal) if the guy is the victim of her carefully planned intrigue?

I pose this as a serious question for all you gals out there who fantasize about seduction. If you are in control how can you be weak while he is strong? As I fantasize seducing a guy, there is always a point in my fantasy where he (symbolically or actually) picks me up in his arms and carries me to bed (much harder to do now than when I was 22). So my strength in planning his seduction just collapses into weakness as he takes over. Fantasies obviously switch rapidly back and forth and they are loose with the truth, but still this remains a question.

I can see in some of your heads the biggest objection to this essay: "The stupid bitch! Doesn't she ever have a fantasy about exciting sex from a loving husband?"

Well of course I do -- even those of us without loving husbands fantasize about having one (and one of our own, not just yours). But (in our fantasy) once we're in bed with him, what exactly do we think about that turns us on. Think about yourself. Do you lay there, vibrator (or husband) in hand, thinking about how much he loves you? Or do you go back in your memory to some magic moment when he did exactly the thing you wanted him to do -- and what was that thing? It was not the simple act of loving you! Be fair, now -- did that magic moment involve his strength and your weakness? I'm betting it did.

Read part 3 of "In the Nude by Lady Gray" -- a story by "ladyellen" and you will see sex between a married couple who are in love. But the story clearly indicates that their arousal results from their fantasy about her sex with another man -- a man she is in bed with on stage in a play -- and whose physical nearness on stage arouses her sexually, even though she is deeply in love with her husband. This arousal makes her vulnerable to her fellow actor. Good marital sex may often involve fantasy about other partners -- real or imagined.

So, where are we? Let's summarize: Genes we inherit determine our sex drive. These genes are preserved by natural selection because they have survival value. A strong man has survival value for you if all he has to defend you with is a club. Genes that attract you to a strong man have survival value for your daughters, who inherit the genes that ... and so it goes. And of course our fantasy needs mirror our real needs. I believe that in recent centuries "smart" has begun to replace "strong" - but smart is really just another way to be strong. The time may come when women lose the genes that attract them to strong or smart men, but that time is in the future (and we may not like it very much when we get there).

A prominent Washington politician (if you don't know you'll never guess) once said that his power acted like a potent aphrodisiac on the women around him. This is undoubtedly true of powerful men. Think about it as Darwin might have: when a bunch of guys are standing around with clubs (or modern club equivalents) the woman screwing the guy in charge is far more likely to have daughters whose genes contribute to the gene pool, than the woman who chooses some wimp cheering from the sidelines.

Ladies! Please send me your thoughts! And guys, if you got this far, watch out, you might make somebody a loving wife.

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AnonymousAnonymousabout 4 years ago
Self-centered essay

Constant use of the first person singular pronoun betrays that this was written not for women but for the authoress' ego.

SubtleDevianceSubtleDevianceover 5 years ago
Interesting

Yeah, I (a guy) disobeyed your warning. I wanted some insight about female noncon fantasies and found this interesting. I'm writing a story and as you have said, it can be difficult to keep the balance when dealing with nonconsensual sex. Too much force and it's a horror story, not enough and it's not noncon and therefore doesn't fit the particular fantasy you keyword searched for. My story is called "Coercion" and I should be finishing it soon. I'd like to hear some feedback if you wouldn't mind. Thanks.

sinstalkersinstalkerabout 8 years ago
A males experience ......

My experiences in this fantasy is that a lot and I mean A LOT of women have desires they are unwilling or unable to express with their partners. We have told lil ladies that good girls don't do things like that, so why does she have these desires? She's a good girl after all. Step in a man that can force/coerce her and poof a ready made alibi, after all good girls wouldn't do this. But she is being made to so it is out of her control thus she gets to be naughty with no guilt because she didn't do it she was made to do it. This way she remains the good girl but gets to have the kind of sex she fantasizes about with no guilt . it has taken me years to realize this with my wife and had to learn to be more forceful as it went against everything I was or believed in even to this day 21 years later she won't move to do what she really desires but anything I just make her do gets her dripping wet and she goes at it with a kind of gusto. This is how she explained it to me many years ago. Great essay gave it a five. I think more men need to read anytime a woman posts something with a look into a woman's mind concerning sex it can only help make you a better man!

fanfarefanfareabout 10 years ago
whoopie! & whoopsie?

Lynn, your essay "My Rape Fantasy" does incite a lot of colorful commentary. Your opinions are well written to defend your personal fantasies and what you have heard of second and third hand from other women. At this point I will concede, whatever turns you on, that does not harm yourself or others, is cool with me.

I understand that you are careful to keep fictional fantasy-rape stories separate from real life rape. In fictional porn there is the common opinion that a guy with a hard-on or a woman with a wet pussy are de facto agreeing to sexual congress.

My opinion on that is: A horse is not the rider, an automobile is not the driver. Physical reaction to stimuli is NOT consent! I think Final Stand put it well when he wrote "Standing in a garage does not make you a car. Any more then attending a church makes you a Christian."

Aside to that discussion, if you write about a fairy that does not make you a fairy. If you write about a ferryboat, that does not make you a ferryboat. If you choose to write fictional stories about rape, that does not mean that in real life you are choosing to be a rapist or a rape victim.

Now my deceased wife had very strong opinions about this subject of subjecting children and women and physically weaker men to the vicious crimes by sexual predators. In some of my writings you can see where I channeled my memories of her opinions. She vehemently ridiculed the notion that women incited brutal attacks.

Otherwise we would be blaming the lamb for being delicious to benefit the wolf's appetites.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 10 years ago
The Importance Of Rape In Male-Female Relationships

The Importance Of Rape In Male And Female Relationships

In her classic, best selling book, on human female sexuality ("My Secrete Garden") Nancy Friday* explains that the most common female sexual fantasy is that of being raped. (70% of women sexually fanaticize about being raped, sexually forced, or sexually overpowered by a human male)

What percent of women REALLY WANT to be raped? Answer: virtually none.

But subconsciously human females are attracted to "strong" males. Males who either play at taking, or do take a leadership role in their relationship.

Question: How long has this genetic imprinting (A desire for male dominance) been developing in the female brain? Answer: For close to four million years.

Question: How much impact has the forty year old "Let's burn our bras" movement had on the subconscious sexual and emotional desires of females? Answer, None at all.

Question: So how do our current "burnt bra generation" of females feel about their sexuality? Answer: confused.

* Ms. Friday had a group of randomly selected women, write down the details of their sexual fantasies. She then compiled them into catagories according to their frequency of occurrence.

** The modern tradition of the groom carrying his bride "over his threshold" is 2,700 years old. It comes from the Roman marriage ceremony, when at the end of the proceedings, after eating cake, the new Roman husband would carry his bride over his threshold and into her new home. This act was in remembrance of the "Rape of the Sabine."

In 750 BCE the men of Rome attack the tribe of the Sabine, specifically to kidnap their women. On returning to Rome they married them. When the Sabine men finally came around to confronting the Romans, the new Roman wives refused to leave their new husbands. The decedents of the "raped Sabines" came to rule most all of the known world.

To learn more about these topics you can do a Google Wikipedia searches on 1. Nancy Friday, 2. Rape of the Sabine.

Most sincerely,

Doc B

Lynn_MXXLynn_MXXabout 11 years ago
SOME ingredients for a good story

Whilst I like the theme of strong man/weak, reluctant woman, it turns me off big time when this extends into rape/coercion. Rather than being a raping, blackmailing beast, I'd rather the man be a tall, handsome, confident, charismatic seducer, who seduces a very reluctant conservative lady. She may have very good reasons for not wanting to be seduced, viz: She may be married, not using contraception, from a different racial background to the seducer or have religious reasons for keeping her knickers on; maybe even some or all of them put together.

Unfortunately, those stories on here are either very rare or are very difficult to find. One problem I have with the site is that in the tags portal, they're listed as 'Non-consent/Reluctance', whereas they should be listed separately.

If anyone can recommend any stories like I've described? I'll be glad to hear from you

anon606anon606about 11 years ago
Is there any way ...

to get a contributor-redacted edition of the women's feedback/comments on this question?

SirDuctionSirDuctionover 12 years ago
FOOD FOR THOUGHT

I thought the author was right to refer to both smart and strong as being attractive elements for women. Can a smart guy be small in stature or does a level of physical strength have to be present? Most women’s fantasies, as expressed in most stories on Literotica, describe the cat that gets the cream as tall, with dark-looks or blond but rarely somewhere in-between. Clearly, physically strong and smart is the best combination, it is not a matter of either or.

Cock size is also an extension of this strength fantasy for women, I think. It conveys strength in one man as opposed to another, as in cuckold stories, and ignores the fact that many men with larger cocks are often wimps and there are many guys with little cocks that are both physically and mentally strong as well as smart. The big cock is more a symbol of strength, virility and confidence that will always feature in women’s fantasies.

As an author I use this fantasy unashamedly to arouse women.

I can understand, more easily, why a woman might want to be wooed and seduced, slowly having her resistance overcome by seduction rather than force.

In this case it could be said that she is not physically or violently raped but seduced against her initial will, hypnotised by charm, a kind of subtle rape where the male gets his “evil way” nonetheless, charm and seductive technique being a powerful drug, far more effective than slipping a drug into her drink for example.

A smart man, whether physically strong or not, must surely get far more satisfaction from this kind of subtle rape. He knows he starts with a “no”, just as the real rapist does, but in contrast he eventually gets to “yes” unlike the real rapist.

I would have thought that this fantasy is more powerful for the thinking man and the thinking women. But I could be wrong, we men often are alas.

AnonymousAnonymousover 12 years ago
Simpletons

It's easy to take what a person has in their head and bastardize it. Like zed0 thinking his comment was funny or a rapist reading so called 'rape' fantasies and thinking he's justified in actually raping people or pedophiles raping children because they read incest fantasies. That's a simpleton for you.

But after reading books like Nancy Friday's sex fantasy series and years of therapy because I was sexually abused as a kid, I've learnt that MY fantasies are MINE! In my fantasy, if I get 'raped', one: it's in my head, so two: it's obviously going MY way. The 'rape' is full of things I like and want done. Who in their right mind would fantasize about things they don't like?? How many people imagine having certain kinds of sex acts done if they hate it, that just wouldn't make sense now would it? But if you like it and you're 'forced' in your fantasy, it takes away personal responsibility and control, so it makes the fantasizer not feel guilty for liking something women have been told "good girls" don't like/do. It can be rationalized, "Well I was 'forced' so I had no choice, that's why I did it, that's why I came..." Men do it too. Think about 'forced' gay fantasies. If the man is 'forced' in his fantasy to suck a cock or have anal sex, then he's not gay. Rationalizations. Silly but sometimes that's what a person needs to come out of their shell and be ok with what they want/need.

The real question is about responsibility in writing these fantasies. On one hand, how do writers satisfy their, as well as others desire for the stories without trolls or violators thinking it's okay? On the other hand, how do we avoid offending someone or triggering a victim (like the thebullets said someone threatened to cut his balls off, probably a victim's knee-jerk response). I think if someone tags a story as "romantic" and "couples" then a reader comes along only to find out that it has rape, sodomy, etc, they're justified in being pissed off. And if that person has PTSD, it's traumatizing. So proper labeling is very important and should be enforced here. I have PTSD and know that it's very easy to have a psychotic episode from things like that - so it's called being considerate of others. I've come across a story ,and this is my third time here, where the tag said romance but it had borderline rape/incest in it and I couldn't sleep that night because it triggered me. I was so upset that it was labeled wrong, I could've avoided reading it...

PTSD aside, it's just as unfair to people who want a certain tone set to have proper labeling so they can avoid raunchy or hardcore stories if that's not what they want. I know this is an erotic site,so I didn't stumble here accidentally and shock, horror, but one person's treasure can be another's trash. I mean really - a few extra words to properly label a story shouldn't be such a hardship for a writer. That's just this girl's opinion.

~LaPetitePapillion

1Master11Master1almost 13 years ago
Well thought out discussion.......

This was a topic that many people should in fact find fascinating, especially those writing erotica. I certainly did.

I think the one thing you DID hit right on the head was that well written erotica DOES hinge very much on the proper choice of word use, they ARE the paints with which we brush and stroke (sorry). And that it is a subtle personal line that separates crude from well thought out....... And one wrong word can remove a reader from the scene entirely.

As far as the rape fantasy topic itself, this is a wonderful topic for you to have chosen, especially for the male readers in the group. It does help us understand better the female psyche and makes us better writers and much better partners..... Either with our own wives or with those we seek pleasures with outside 'convention'......

And THIS was actually the first thing I read from you! Looking forward to your stories......

1Master1

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