All Comments on 'M is for Mayhem'

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Average-JoeAverage-Joealmost 17 years ago
Good story

Nice variation on the theme. I did think the husband wasnt as angry as he should have been though. It was good that he recognized what his wife really was and didnt even consider taking her back but he was a little quick to want to help her with the lawyer. He should have let her sister do it. He also should have made sure the sisters husband knew about what she was doing. A little more righteous indignation and anger would have suited the situation well imo.<p><p>

Still good though - thanks for writing.

Orion623Orion623almost 17 years ago
Interesting

What a way to discover that your wife is having an affair! And that she has been having the affair before you were married, resuming it right after you return from your honeymoon! Certainly a different way of presenting how a husband finds out he's a cuckold. Good writing.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
Strong Writing and Reality

Just about as good as it can get by someone who has talent. You stirred the emotional pot with details and believable scenarios.<P>

Plausible actions by all were well expressed. As you can tell I liked it as it had real reactions. While not every t was crossed that's life as it is. Who in the passion of the moment can remember to turn off the pain and turn on the cold analysis.<P>

Author - exceptionally well conceived and delivered with talent on display. More would be good. Marital consequence is such a fertile arena with emotions and entertaining opportunities in abundance. Thanks.<P>

With Very High Regard

Harryin VAHarryin VAalmost 17 years ago
Really weak ; Huge plot holes

Nope. not even close

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after finding out this is going for years ... that his entire marriage is a fraud and that his wife sister is complict in this horrendous scheme the husband decides NOT to tell his brother in law?

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why the fuck not?

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the husband's whole reaction is weak and very underdone. I have seen guys get more upset when their football team loses in OT on a sunday afternoon

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
Waste of talent

Poor premise; No one would allow their spouse to go out with their sibling every Saturday starting the week they return from their honeymoon. No reason is really given for the

affair. All in all nothing to recommend this effort.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
It wasnt a character flaw. She was mentally ill.

So ill she didnt realize anything was wrong with what she was doing. She was but one of a group of women used by the man and totally from day one disrespected, dishonored, and betrayed the man who she used as a sugar daddie so she could keep being fucked by another man. Actually she and her sister were just plain pieces of trash, she a slut, and her sister the enabler, knowing what was going on and making sure she could keep doing it. Would be interesting to know the results of any blood work being done.

Risq_001Risq_001almost 17 years ago
Please don't take offense at this, but ........

<p>This is the first story that I really liked that I've read by you </p>

<p>I mean it <i>was</i> a different premise where the husband finds out his wife is cheating from the police because they are investiaging her involvement in her lovers murder</p>

<p>Reminds me of a guy here who was busted for running one of the largest identity thefts rings in our state, and no one knew he was doing it, until the cops raided the hotel room he rented to run it. He was running it out of hotel rooms on the weekend so that he didn't have anything in his home to be busted with if the police ever searched it.</p>

<p>Hey Harry, while I agree that most husbands would have told their brother in-laws (if they were really that close) the whole involvement with his wife's cheating, that she was cheating on them from day one, and the brother in-law's wife's part in it, but to be honest I think the newspaper article, which in most cases would have been quite through about times, dates, and her involvement up to the murder. And for most folks that would have been enough if the sisters husband wasn't a total idiot, that he would have put 2 and 2 together to come to the conclusion that his wife must have been helping her cheat on her husband. Some people don't feel that is enough to divorce a someone over, and other feel if your willing to help someone cheat then your a stones throw away yourself from it. But that was one of those character judgement calls. Having been in the situation of where I knew someone was cheating, sometimes you hope you don't have to say anything and they bust themselves. And sometimes you have to speak up if they look like they are getting away with it.</p>

<p>I just felt the husband had too much on his plate to go after his sister in-law so far. But I bet in the divorce he would have mentioned it to the family, but 5 days after he found out the whole family knew the whole story, so he really didn't have to say anything other than get an lawyer to split up the assets.</p>

<p>Nice story Techsan</p>

-Risq

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
Wooden

Wooden characters without any depth to them populated this story from beginning to end. The writer made up for it by giving them stilted, formalized dialogue that was distinguished only by its mediocrity. All in all, a thoroughly forgettable technical effort.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
Good stories, perfect English

This story is exceptionally well written and organized. Like another's comments, I too found the characters to be "wooden." However, my issue is that I come from the story wihtout an understanding of how it came to be that Tomkins mamaged to have a string of women with which he had affairs. How did he do it? What abilities did Pam's boyfriend have that qualified him for his excellenece in his chosen extracurricular activity? The husband never got to question Pam about this.

All and all the story is clear and interesting. It should have been (should be!) longer and more detailed. RAG

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
I liked it

I liked the story but felt the anger by the husband would be stronger and cause him to not get her a lawyer, and to cause more pain for the sister-in-law. I think you could have expanded the story to cover that. Thanks for your time and words.

thebulletthebulletalmost 17 years ago
Maybe I missed something

Harry in his ever vitriolic way has scathingly attacked this story (as usual - of course he never writes his own stories) because the husband didn't tell the brother-in-law. Did I miss something? As far as I can tell, nothing has been said one way or another about informing the brother-in-law about his wife's abetting the infidelity. He may not have told him. He may have told him. It is left unsaid as far as I can read.

Of course Harry knows far more than the average reader. He knows what is in the writer's mind. He usually knows more than the writer about the stories. He's a fucking genius, is our Harry.

By the way, techsan. Good story, well told. You got all of the salient points out in two pages and still had a story that encompassed the feelings and responses that any normal man would go through.

I really don't see what more any normal husband would have done to get back at his wife. Some people (unlike our Harry) are civilized. As the husband and lawyer agreed, it would have been most unseemly to begin divorce proceedings before a resolution of the murder charges. But as soon as her butt got out of jail, he was waiting with the divorce papers.

That's about as good as it gets as far as I can see.

gatorhermitgatorhermitalmost 17 years ago
Very well-written story

Concise, clear, and very interesting story, however, also very sad. Stan acted appropriately, although I do agree that he should have informed his brother-in-law about Katie's duplicity and part in the deception. But getting an attorney for Pam and then divorcing her was the correct course of action.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
Well Done!

A very good story, well written, believable characters, and a solid plot. My only criticism is the lack of retribution for the wife in the story's climax. Other than that a great read no doubt about it.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
Good story

I enjoyed the story. It was good, not great. It missed the emotion that some of the great stories bring. I look forward to reading more from you.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
I like to think the brother-in-law was smart

enough to figure it out on his own. Talking about this is a non-starter - it has nothing to do with the story.

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I thought it was sweet (in the sense of good, excellent, fun or cool - I try to stay up with my kids) the way he met her at the prison with the divorce papers. Picture her mood ... so relieved that it's all over. Wrong!

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Technically well done, as always. Interesting story line. Jeez, what more can you ask for?

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Regards, Jack

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
I frind these stories about a wife having an affai

for many years hard to believe. I wonder if some men are so dense, well really dumb, that they never have a clu. Now he can go back to his world of evading the truth when it slaps him in the face. No sympathy for this jerk. His wife had every right to be fucking another man when he's as dumb as he was.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
Interesting

well written and i like the pace. it keeps you interested. enough character development for me to have an idea what kind of a person the main character is.

good job.

KOLKOREKOLKOREalmost 17 years ago
Nothing made much sense…

I agree that there is no reason to be vitriolic, but there is a need to be candid. The truth is that not much in the story made sense. The very brief confrontation the husband had with the wife simply did not add up. She continued to see her old BF even as he chose to marry another woman. Then with straight face, the wife said that the BF could not divorce his wife because of financial issues with his wife. The unasked question -why didn’t the BF marry her in the first place, left unanswered of course. Add to that the question why would the wife want the BF to marry her (or else the financial issue would not have been discussed) if as she said later, she loved her husband? How about the simplest question - why DID she continue to have sex with her ex? The husband speculates at the end, bringing some “character flaw”. It does not explain anything to me, not in lay terms or otherwise. Moreover, even the most severe mental illnesses have their own internal logic. I could not see any and the reason was: the internally contradictory paragraph you allowed for the wife’s character for explanation.

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If there was any clue for potential reason for cheating it was actually in the husband’s pattern of behavior, which was curiously apathetic to the point of incredibility. For seven years of marriage, and right from the first weekend (???) for most weekends, his wife went to the movies (AND shopping) with her sister (unless they happen to have something else to do of course), and he had no clue or interest re. what she was doing; what was she was seeing or shopping (nothing at all …) and what might be missing in their lives? Then when he hears she has a lover he is still surprised? <P>

If anyone might have a character flaw it actually might be the husband, seeing how annoying he is. That of course does not justify or explain anything regarding his wife. It just makes it even harder to like the story.

At best, it reads as a short chronicle in the local Metro section about curious criminal news. Curious head line, but no more involvement or understanding.

SEVERUSMAXSEVERUSMAXalmost 17 years ago
This will be mentioned on the AH.

I found this story to be a fairly interesting one, but a bit short and rushed. It seemed too easy and abbreviated in its conversation, too. I give it a 4.

Alvaron53Alvaron53almost 17 years ago
Interesting plotline

Pretty good story although I'm forced to agree with some of the previous posters who wondered how the husband never once got even a hint of a clue that his wife was cheating on him regularly. She never let anything slip, and neither did her sister. Nobody, not one person, not one time, ever noticed his wife going someplace unusual with someone not her husband and thought it peculiar enough to mention it casually to the hubby or the friend of the hubby. It just strains credibility a bit too much for me.

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I found the author's prose quite good. That's not surprising because techsan has edited plenty of stories for other authors. The storyline was fresh, and the story's hook was nicely done. The opening grabbed my attention and the pacing of the tale kept me interested until the conclusion. The resolution of the story's central conflict was nicely done. She cheated, got caught, got the boot to the curb and the marriage ended in divorce. The husband opined that the wife had a character flaw but that was fairly obvious. His musings still shed no light on why she cheated on her spouse with regularity.

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In all, a good story that I enjoyed. Thank you, techsan.

bornagainbornagainalmost 17 years ago
another chapter

I liked the story but why didnt the husband give her a chance at going to through counceling or himself to get to the bottom of her cheating on him and what happened to the stupid sister in law why didnt she get her punishment she had alot to do with her cheating she should have been dragged through the mud herself when will the wife tell her side of her screw up ?

Pat

DG HearDG Hearalmost 17 years ago
Interesting!

The story kept moving. I found myself wanting to know what happened next. What more can you ask of a writer. I'll agree that not everyone would have liked the way it ended. Like assholes, we all have opinions. Your story your opinion. I for one enjoyed reading it.

DG Hear

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
A Real Winner!

You wrote an excellent story. I just glanced at some of the comments. Someone asked why he did not have a clue that she was cheating on him for 7 years? If you love someone and trust them you do not conduct random survelliances to see if he or she is telling the truth. Pam and her lover had casual meetings depending on when she could get away not to mention her sister was covering for her. One reason serial killers are so hard to detect and catch is the casual or random nature of their encounters. Since the affair had been going on since the start of the marriage there would be no change in her behavior. Even if a friend saw her get from her sister's car into her lover's car what is suspicious about that act? Malls are places where people meet others constantly and if they could see her then she could see them. ________________________________________________

Why did she cheat? Stan was the consolidation prize. The fact that she continued the affair during their dating, during the engagement period and after her marriage indicates that she loved Lee. She kept coming back because she was hoping that Lee would leave his wife. Pam's statement that "I didn't mean to hurt you" means that she was sorry that he found out not sorry for the affair. When asked why she did not marry Lee she blames it on Lee's financial weakness (note she did not deny that she would have married Lee if she had a chance).__

Why not give her another chance? Another chance to fuck over Stan? There was no remorse or guilt from her about the lies, deceit or betrayal. Every indication from the police is that Lee fucked her bareback so given his activities with other women Pam put Stan's health at risk. What is the basis for reconciliation? The fact that they lived in the same house for 7 years?______________________________ Anyway, I enjoyed your story and the only change I would make is to spend more time into the characters. Thanks again!_________ SleeplessinMD

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
Well, the story has merit...

...in that it had a beginning that caught my attention and an ending that made a measure of sense. However, the in-between part left me a bit empty. I agree that the confrontation scenes were without depth and reasonableness. He seemed too calm and under control, at least to me. On the other hand, you had a good idea. I'd like to see you put more "meat" on it for a rewrite.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
for someone known as a great editor

the writing is rather poor. First of all, the police say they aren't under arrest, then reads them their rights. You don't get read your rights unless you're under arrest. Then the cop tells the husband his wife's fingerprints were all over the room. Really? If they just brought his wife in with him, how did they know the prints in the room were hers? Unless she has been arrested before, her prints aren't on file. And her fluids were mixed with the victims? They have a DNA sample of her on file, too? Please think things through a little better.

KOLKOREKOLKOREalmost 17 years ago
Explanations can’t contradict the story

What’s really odd to me is that a routine of separating most weekends from your new wife from the early evening to late night right from the honey moon throughout the marriage for seven years, does not strike others as unusual. If this sounds normal and healthy to all those who found no problem here, no wonder we have that high a level of divorce rate.

Before we talk about trusting I am asking - did this husband even care? Cheating aside, If I were this wife, It would sure give me the feeling that he does not; seeing that he never noticed that his wife was not actually doing any shopping. And why wouldn’t he ever be bothered by the fact that she wants to spend that much time away from him when they have time off?<P>

On the wife’s side, all we have in terms of explicit statement from her about her feelings is a denial of love to her BF and a declaration of love to her husband. While it’s important to try and fill the gaps in a way that fits her other statements, what we can’t do is read into the story explanations that contradict what the story explicitly says (like suggesting that the wife loved the BF as a reason to her ongoing cheating). If the bottom line is that there is no coherent explanation which could be derived from what the story provides, we must be honest and admit that it was not coherent.

PhilipinNorcalPhilipinNorcalalmost 17 years ago
Middle of the road

'Techsan:'<p>For me your story was somewhat flat. Your prose was done well, but the content just didn't grab me. While you had some dialog in your story, it did nothing to really let the reader get to know your characters. I considered it to be more perfunctory than informative. Actually, perhaps it was telling. The wife, after admitting to seven years of cheating, virtually during their entire marriage, implores her husband,<i>"Please can't we work through this and get on with our lives?"</i> Now there's a woman with a strong grasp of reality.<p>I believe with any kind of backlog, the results of the DNA test would have taken longer than 5 days. Also, it was never explained how the police obtained a sample of the wife's DNA with which to compare with that which they found at the scene of the crime. And while the wife is shown to be despicable, I didn't read of any evidence damning enough to indict her. She was there and it's later shown that she was intimate with the deceased. In no way is that enough to convict her. With her lover's wife's alibi not being ironclad, lack of possession of the murder weapon was enough to clear the wife of the deceased, but not her? Did this story take place in Colorado?<p>The sister's defense of herself was pretty lame. Okay, she didn't have to "rat out" her sister, but she could've refused to have been an accessory. Seven years of supplying her sister with an alibi? Just doesn't fly with me. But it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall when she has to explain to her husband.<p>I gotta believe the protagonist has the vision of a mole. In all this time he <i>really didn't</i> have any occasion to suspect his wife of being unfaithful? From her dialog which I quoted above, I wouldn't expect her to be savvy enough to pull off this deception for so long.<p>'Techsan,' the story was pretty ordinary for me. Even with the dialog it was pretty much a by-the-numbers narrative. No depth was furnished to the characters. And there's an infidelity that will have to forever remain unexplained. By the way, the husband should cancel his newspaper subscription. No reputable paper is going to print the address of someone "suspected" of a crime.

peggytwittypeggytwittyalmost 17 years ago
A bit different story of loving wives

Quite unusual too see the husband not suspecting something for over 7 years, but it is possible to be in a marriage that is not about spending a lot of time together. I have seen couples that only get together for part of weekends and only some nights during the week. It is a marriage not like a story book, but of people who love each other with individual interests and friends who only come together infrequently. Not everyone is into doing everything together. It works well for some people who travel a lot or have different work schedules. I would say most of these type marriages have special times for the couples to interact.<p>I have seen two marriages where the husbands had two separate lives in two different cities. One had another family in the City he worked in and one in the town he called his domicile. The other had an apartment with a bachelor’s life style where he worked and told his family who resided in another town, and he owned his own consulting company and had to travel a lot. Both controlled all moneys and paid all the bills themselves. It turned out one of the wives found out about her husbands life style and had a lover of her own, who she eventually married. It was very interesting to hear them both accuse and scream at the other of starting the infidelity and being a slut and whore. Yes men can be sluts and whores also.<p>I believe some of the comments about the police and DA’s actions are fair as they did seem to be over zealous with quite poor police work.<p> This was a little dryer story from this great author. I might have given it a bit lower score, but the options of a 75 don't fit my opinion of this fiction. I found it very good entertainment and applaud his efforts.<p>

Thank you for your stories<p>

PT

KOLKOREKOLKOREalmost 17 years ago
A cause for authors envy

Techsan,

Despite the fact that my take on this story was critical (which is only my angle and a minor point), I think that with this kind of readership and comments you get (I am NOT talking about my comments…), you could very well be a cause for envy for other authors. Take two of the commenters, which I personally enjoy reading whenever I notice their comments: Peggytwitty and PhilipinNorcal. After reading their comments, I have to go back to the story, check parts of it and think again about different aspects that have been brought by them. It’s not about who is right and who is wrong, as if we are in a ‘zero sum’ game. It’s about refining one’s POV, seeing more angles, considering where the emphasis lies etc. <p>

Some people believe (especially in the poetry section, but not only there), that the public comments section SHOULD be limited to one time – have your say – and don’t bother again. If you wish to discuss and respond, by all means, go someplace else (where most of the readers don’t bother to go) and create a thread etc. I believe that right next to the text and all the variety of feedbacks is the best place to also have relevant discussions on the story. IMO, it just highlights (it’s self evident –people spend time thought and energy) the value that readers put on the story and on the author. I also hope that it promotes some sort of openness respect and learning from each other (not a too common commodity). For allowing this to happen on your feedback board, I am grateful. Now I will look again at the story…

waratahwaratahalmost 17 years ago
Disspointing

Technically correct, but emotionally not much to offer, not enough detail, needed some twists, depth or drama. SOme indication of their history. Something like the police letting him know without her knowing he now knew. Or something.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
Why, oh why is this shit

in the loving wives category? This is a non-erotic story. When are you fucking pea brains that love these revenge stories going to post them in the right category? THERE IS NO FUCKING SEX!! None of you ever comment, "Damn, techsan, that was some hot shit! Your story really got me off!" And there's a good reason you don't. It's because the story isn't erotica. So get your shit out of the erotic categories and shove it up your unerotic asses and into Literotica's non erotic category where it belongs.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 17 years ago
Sevem years every saturday night she went

shopping with her sister? My god once a month my wife doing that would have me up the wall. Friday and Saturday nights are for couples to be together and go out together. The sister was a enabler of the affair and at best ruined her own marriage by wasting every saturday night to let the wife be a slut. The murdered man was a user, he used women. His own wife as an alibi for him to not get serious with other women but to use them. He it seems had a stable of married sluts at his disposal. A shame the one that disposed of him was caught. The husband in this story is brain dead, wasting every saturday night for seven years and having no idea what his wife bought on all these "shopping" trips. Marriage is a contract betweem two people, and the wife broke hers right after the marriage. She married him expecting to meet and screw her married lover. He was right, he was her meal ticket and she never really loved him, maybe didnt even like him since she placed him in harms way by taking a lover, arent STD and HIV test fun for a year? A shame the heroine of the story had no morals or ethics, simply slut trash. A woman of honor seeing what she did to her husband would have committed suicide. The question of how the DNA evidence was analyzed so quickly is really a tricky question, but an even better one is, since the wife didnt have prior knowledge of the police on the murder. How did they obtain her DNA sample to analyze? A search warrant was issued and a tissue sample taken? Without her knowledge? Simple saying she was in the room and it was her fingerprints, how did they get the verification on that, wasnt enough. And saying she was riding the guy so it was her bodily fluids doesnt float either. Nope this smacks of LAPD work on the OJ case. Hmmm, now could a good lawyer have gotten the marriage annulled since the wife entered into the marriage by fraud for a cover to keep meeting her real lover? That would be an interesting angle! Anyway a very good story for the loving wives section, and a very satisfying punishment for the trash, in both cases here. Punishing a person is not always revenge, sometimes it is just justice being metted out. This woman ruined her own name and marriage, her sister's marriage and character, and her parents love and faith in their children, she was a major loser.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 16 years ago
Cartoon-ish made for 1960's TV

sorry to be so critical. The legal process didn't ring true at all to me. More research needed.

But in truth, this would have made a good Perry Mason or Highway Patrol with Brod Crawford episode. You could have the crime committed and the whole mystery solved and the thing buttoned up in 30 minutes of TV.

AnonymousAnonymousover 15 years ago
What kind of a husband finds out that his wife has

been cheating on him with her college boyfriend the entire seven years of their marriage and when she is arrested for the murder of her lover then he goes and hires a lawyer for her defense... B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T... Areal man would have let the bitch rot in hell. You have now become one of the wimp husband writers that i have always hated...marriedwithballs@yahoo.com

AnonymousAnonymousabout 15 years ago
I enjoyed this story

Okay so it isn't particularly erotic. But it is a good short story and well written in taut elegant prose. The characters, including the narrator come off the page and become flesh and blood. All the way through it had me interested and I wanted to know where the story was going. The ending was a satisfactory resolution.

Weaknesses? Yes. That affair with the old flame from the beginning of the marriage was implausible. She could have met him say in the last two years and it would also have worked.

A very good piece of writing.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 15 years ago
GOOD STORY

Good story line and an excellent idea for catching a cheating wife. However, there was very little information for character formation. Though I must admit it was refreshing not to see a list of the attributes that so many authors use to describe their characters. <spoken with a droning tone> "My wife of four years was 26, 5'4", blue eyes with blonde hair. She was slim with 34C breasts, blah, blah, blah, blah."

AnonymousAnonymousover 14 years ago
Keep Trying

This would work for a 1/2 hr TV show like Perry Mason or Matlock.

AnonymousAnonymousover 14 years ago
This is a good story

The character development is limited but the plot line is unique. I would like to find out more about Stanley Turner and his former wife. Another chapter would, no doubt, be well accepted.

C_frommnC_frommnabout 14 years ago
Good Story

Well written kept you looking for what was Coming Next.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 14 years ago
Review

Very interesting, well told story until the end which fell flat and needed much more information about her side of it or a better developed revenge for him.

RePhilRePhilover 13 years ago
Good story

But yes alittle more closure on her would minimize the vengeful retribution scenarios floating around my head

MissouriUSAMissouriUSAover 13 years ago
Thanks for writing the story!

It was a little different twist and it was entertaining. I wonder if the sister ended up divorced because of the mess that she helped cover up for all of those years. That would have been a nice addition to the story.

chytownchytownalmost 13 years ago
Good Read

Thanks for sharing.

tazz317tazz317over 12 years ago
AFTER THE HONEYMOON

until the funeral, 2 Holy days. TK U MLJ LV NV

tazz317tazz317over 12 years ago
#2 7 YEARS AFTER HOW LONG BEFORE

I guess a cheater will always, but being a dunce cuck should win a booby prize, TK U MLJ LV NV

AnonymousAnonymousabout 12 years ago
sorry was there an ending here

or did i miss it

betrayedbylovebetrayedbylovealmost 12 years ago
Okay

I guess spending time in jail and getting a divorce was the only revenge Stan was going to get. He had to be pretty blind and stupid not to suspect anything in the seven years they were married.

Pam was just a cheating whore slut wife who deserves nothing. She's lucky she's still breathing. Maybe the next married man she fucks she catch aids or suffer the same fate as her former lover, shot dead. We can only hope.

HA

MattblackUKMattblackUKalmost 12 years ago
If a cheater is really good

They can get away with it for ever, or until something goes wrong, as in this story.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 12 years ago
The dumb wife

She completely screwed up a marriage for a guy who not only was committing adultery as she was but was doing it with multiple partners. I don't think Pam had a charracter flaw she was just one fucking stupid gullible bitch.

MrVdogMrVdogalmost 12 years ago
It's a character flaw all right, but...

All women are born with it.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 12 years ago
Ahh, the fine line between a gullible stupid slut wife and a manipulative slut is very, very small.

Although, the end result is always the same - once a cheating slut, always a cheating slut who is more adaptive to avoid being caught again. Sincerely, the universe would be much better if the sluts genes were not allowed to be reproduced. George Santayana once said; "Those who chose not to remember the past are condemned to repeat it." In this case, the slut should have been serving a life sentence for her long-term adultery or be tried in Iran where the punishment suits the crime.

monkcalmmonkcalmalmost 11 years ago
funny comment

by MrVdog06/30/12 "it's a character flaw all right, but...All women are born with it."

crack me up but its not a flaw, it's honor, women don't have one any more women lost theirs..don't believe me check out western media.... honor and self respect they do not have but wow they look good just no depth.

cantbuymycantbuymyalmost 11 years ago

A well done dirty fucking piece of shit slut wife. Not enough payback for 8 years of fucking another man 52 times a year. What is this shit about only taking half the money - take it all, take everything.

52 times a year for 8 years is 412 days and figure fucking 2 or 3 times a meeting and she fucked him more than 1,000 times.

OneShotOneOneShotOnealmost 11 years ago
What kind of punk

pays for the attorney of a woman who has been betraying him for 8 years?

cantbuymycantbuymyalmost 11 years ago

had to add something. tell ole mom and dad that they raised a fucking whore and theior other daughter is a god damn fucking pimp. and since the pimp daughter seems to have no problem lying maybe she has a fuck buddy or two on the side. make sure her husband knows too.

and whereever either sister moves to send all the neighbors copies of the court records and police reports showing she was fucking someone other than her husband for eight years, SINCE THE DAY THEY CAME BACK FROM THE HONEYMOON!

let every employer of both women know how honest they are.

open a website and put it all there and send links to anyone they know or will know.

when you have done that for eight years, you are even.

and when you leave the parents home shit on their front porch and piss on their cars abnd let them know that if you see them in the street you are going to shout as loud as possible HOW IS YOUR WHORE DAUGHTER AND HER PIMP SISTER. YOU SURE RAISED TWO FUCKING PIECES OF GARBAGE. HAVE YOU RUN DNA ON THEM? IF THEY ARE YOURS YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHAT FEMALE MEMBER OF YOUR FAMILY TAUGHT THEM THAT BEING A WHORE AND PIMP IS ACCEPTABLE!

AnonymousAnonymousover 10 years ago
cantbuyaclue

comments constantly on every story, inane ramblings and incoherent babble mostly, since he can't write for shit, what a fucking loser.

fanfarefanfareover 10 years ago
the squeaking of trolls resounds from the sewers

It is hilarious looking over the comments from the BTB lynch mob at their fulsome hatred of females. Since the only women they associate with are either plastic blow-up dolls or pixellated images.

And little boys, if all women are cheating, whoring, cheating cuntsluts, does that not include your own mothers? Is that line on your Birth Certificate, supposed to be filled in with the name of your biological father, even remotely correct or just guesswork?

DunaDunaover 10 years ago
Do myou know the figures

@ fanfare according to surveys the 45% of wives are absolute faithful in the Western Culture and 40% of husbands. The one part of 55% wifes either had only 1 -2 affairs lifetime or they were unfaithful in the first marriage only. I call them relative faithful wives.

There are the serial cheaters and sluts. Do you know of the 55% wives how many % are the relative faithful, how many% are the serial cheaters and how many% are slut wives????? Could you give an estimation???

BTW Cpete's last story showed the serial cheater nature well in "Dead Stupid".

tazz317tazz317over 10 years ago
#3 FOR AN EXTRA BTB

the ex-wife should sue for alienation of affection. Techsan you missed this one...maybe an epilog...TK U MLJ LV NV

Huedogg2Huedogg2over 10 years ago
Tazz I think you're the one who missed out on this one

The ex wife should sue Who? Tazz the bitch has been cheating since after the honeymoon. If anybody should sue it the husband. He should sue the lover estate for destroying his slut wife pussy. LOL

IronDragonIronDragonover 10 years ago
Jeez!

He should have just let her rot in jail. It's a LOT easier to get a Divorce when the slut's behind bars. There are a lot of decent ladies out there. No need to put a cheating slut back on the streets until after the Divorce is final. Too bad the Hubby that killed Asshole didn't hide the gun well enough. Should have disassembled it and melted it down. He still did the world a favor by icing the Asshole. Don't send him to prison. Give him a fuckin' medal.

Still gave it 5 Stars for Hubby not even considering reconciliation.

betrayedbylovebetrayedbyloveover 10 years ago
I agree with the last comment

It was a little of matter-of-fact. No real feelings. No real explanations. Just a cheating skank whore cunt wife and her complicit sister. Two fucking cunts. They should both suffer.

AnonymousAnonymousover 9 years ago
Disappointing

If you are going to try for a police procedural angle some semblance of authenticity would be helpful. I'm not asking for reality, but when the interactions with the police and the forensic science makes even a casual Law and Order viewer snort in disbelief it becomes difficult to follow too much further into the story.

Pappy7Pappy7over 9 years ago
For those commenters that say

the husband had to be dense to not notice his wife was screwing around the whole marriage I have to ask. How would he know any difference? If she had been doing it all along and didn't show any remorse or guilt or any of the other signs that something was wrong, he wouldn't know. I had a friend whose husband had had a string of affairs for the entire time they were married and had good excuses, work related, for why he was gone from home so much. She said that until he told her prior to leaving, she hadn't a clue. She was a faithful wife and couldn't even imagine that he wasn't faithful also. We notice the differences not anything else when we trust.

Good writing and I appreciate the no reconciliation part of the equation. Why would he have anything to do with someone who had that little regard for him or his feelings. I do agree that something should have been done to the sister. She was just as guilty as the wife. Her husband should have taken a very close look at her. Maybe she needed to move on too. Can't trust a cheater and she was cheating by default, just not necessarily on her own husband, but on her sister's husband for sure.

KarenEKarenEover 9 years ago
Thoughts

First, I would NEVER talk to the police without an attorney, ESPECIALLY when they won’t tell me what it is about.

Second, how do they know they are HER bodily fluids? They have just been taken into custody, even IF they have had a chance to analyze and compare her fluids to those at the scene, Getz has been with the husband the whole time and couldn’t know that. Hell, unless her fingerprints are on file for some reason, he can’t even know that the prints are hers!

I also agree with those who say you can't blame him because there was no apparent change in her behavior.

I seriously question her sister - loyalty is one thing, but actively covering for her cheating? No way! Jase should seriously question her views on fidelity if she could so easily condone her sister's cheating.

sdc97230sdc97230about 9 years ago
Maybe the cop just lied to him...?

Telling him they had proof his wife was chucking him even if they didn't, to keep him agitated so he'd give himself away if he was the killer. The other cop might have been in the other room telling the wife they had proof her husband knew about her lover.

tazz317tazz317over 8 years ago
IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS SAVING HIS SPITTLE

or just doesn't want to waste it on a slut. TK U MLJ LV NV

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 8 years ago
true life serial cheater

By her own admission she has cheated on her 3rd husband their entire marriage in 1993

Details on Facebook profile of dearbornmt@yahoo.com

AnonymousAnonymousover 7 years ago
Exposing email anomymous

Totally wrong! Posting email in public

AnonymousAnonymousover 7 years ago
master falcon mistaken

The dearbornmt@yahoo.com is not the cheating wife's email.

That address allows you to find Facebook profile that was created by friend of sexually harassed and coerced male student to vindicate him. That serial cheating wife has stated that she intentionally caused destruction in his life and she enjoyed doing it. People have made derogatory comments without visiting profile. SUGGEST YOU DO THAT AND GET FACTS!!!!

AnonymousAnonymousover 7 years ago
So what happened to the cheater?????

No recriminations? No pay back. She had a little "character flaw". I guess so-!!!

AnonymousAnonymousover 7 years ago
Oh!

Liked the plot but not the husband's help. I recognise that he still divorced her but assisting her defense was too saintly for me, after her long term cheating.

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
And the SISTER

If I were the sister's husband . I would be asking a lot of questions at least . Also ! Unfortunately the ex wife has a solid case for a lawsuit against the police and the city . Held in jail for months on very flimsy evidence by very arrogant police. . Also the husband asked if they were under arrest and the two ignorant cops said No . But if you don't come with us we'll take you in handcuffs. . To do so they have to arrest him . Another lawsuit .

AnonymousAnonymousover 6 years ago
1*

wimpy shit.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 6 years ago
A character flaw???

For years and years and years? Man he must be deaf, dumb and blind. And what happened to the sister and her marriage? What about the wife of the dead man? There are too many derails left unfinished in this story to be really satisfying.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 6 years ago
You had a good, no great, story going

then I went to page 2 and it all went to the crapper. Too bad.

Alfonso435Alfonso435almost 6 years ago
Great story line

Really like the idea you had, but felt it needed more emotion and detail.

But really great idea I love that.

Mauser45Mauser45over 5 years ago
I'm with the Anon of 03/12/18

This goes beyond being a 'character flaw' - she was entirely flawed. Good riddance, and I'm glad she got burned

It was a pretty good story overall, although not perfect. I don't think we truly understood Pamela - not in the 'let's feel sorry for her' kind of way, more why she carried on with the asshole for so many years. No explanation, especially considering she supposedly didn't love him. I'm not one for listening to cheaters 'explain' their bullshit away, but the thing is, she's been fucking this douchebag throughout their entire marriage, so I'd liked to have seen her try to bullshit her way through that before getting rejected and burned. How would she explain that away?

Then again, maybe 'she's full of shit' was enough to cover it. In any case, 4/5

AnonymousAnonymousover 5 years ago
Good job...

...i enjoyed this story. Thanx!

Loklie

AnonymousAnonymousabout 5 years ago
she got off easy

7 years of cheating from day 1 and she basically admitted he was just a meal ticket and he simply walks away. I may be a sick puppy but some how I would want her to really suffer. good story.

Just_WordsJust_Wordsalmost 5 years ago
One of my favorite stories!

It's true - I never suspected my wife was cheating until confronted by it. She cheated for a year. Loving husbands trust and never suspect.

I do hope the sister-in-law paid for her involvement. She deserves some serious shit in her life, too.

TajfaTajfaalmost 5 years ago
Why did she do it

Good story but it would have been more complete if we had heard more from her about why she kept doing it if she truly loved him as she said. Did she know about his other lovers?

Right decision by him to dump her as it was a long and lasting affair not a one time mistake.

26thNC26thNCover 4 years ago
Good story

I enjoyed the story a lot, but like a few others commented it leaves a few things unanswered. I would like to know if there was any fallout for the sister. He handled it perfectly. She did it, accept no excuses, bye bitch.

TorgauTorgauabout 4 years ago

Like some of the other commentators I would have liked more detail on the wife's motives, the slime ball she was banging, why she first cheated right after the honeymoon, what had gone on before, etc.

AnonymousAnonymousalmost 4 years ago
Didn't add up

How did the police already have the wife's prints and DNA, no explanation, just lazy writing, poor

oldwayneoldwaynealmost 4 years ago
LIFE GOES ON.

Five Stars!

lee5456lee5456over 3 years ago
Oh what a tangled web we weave

When first we practice to become a ho

26thNC26thNCover 3 years ago
Again

That was a very dis gusting cheating bitch. She's very lucky he didn't kill her and her.lying sister.

AbctoyAbctoyabout 3 years ago
Ok read

Just didn't do it for me. It just didn't seem to flow right but it could have been me.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 3 years ago
SOOOOO..............................................

What happened in the sisters marriage? Her husband would have to know she had been lying to him for years so he'd have no reason to believe she hadn't cheated all along as well.

AnonymousAnonymousabout 3 years ago

So, how did the police already have the wife's fingerprints and DNA - story doesn't add up, very lazy writing 1* at best

TajfaTajfaabout 3 years ago

A lot missing here. No discussion with the wife re why she did it. Did she really think she would never be found out? What happened to the lying sisters marriage? The story was good and well written but could have been great.

onlythelonelyloveonlythelonelylovealmost 3 years ago

This is what happens when people don’t know their rights. Never talk to the police without representation and after they have arrested you. After all, a Miranda warning is given after you have been arrested... No other time... Listen to the words...

whateverittakeswhateverittakesalmost 3 years ago

It's amazing how much the LW stories have evolved over the years. Recent stories have everything pretty much wrapped up with a bow. Earlier versions leave all sorts of holes in the stories and the aftermaths are not nearly as devastating.

LickideesplitLickideesplitover 2 years ago
Plot Holes

How do the police know Sweetie was the DNA donor in the sex residue? They MIGHT have been able to get a fast turn-around on the victim DNA. Akso, unless she has had some reason to have gotten fingerprinted, they would NOT know the ones found at the murder scene were hers! The police would certainly have fingerprinted both Hubby and Sweetie during the questioning. They would also have tested for gunpowder residue on their hands, and searched their house to gather, among other things, the clothing they were wearing during the time period of the shooting. And, of course, any firearms at their house!

2*

AnonymousAnonymousover 2 years ago

What husband would put up with his wife going out every Saturday night to all hours "with her sister" and without him for 7 years?

AnonymousAnonymousover 2 years ago

A good story outline, but no real story.

No conversations with the wife, & no real closure.

Can’t give this more than 2 stars, maybe 2&½.

Bill

AnonymousAnonymousover 2 years ago

Mediocre poker. Nothing very interesting and no real dialogue.

not_a_viking_honestnot_a_viking_honestover 2 years ago

Started interesting but then just flipped the table and died.

AnonymousAnonymousover 2 years ago

No pain for the sister in law? She gets to keep her marriage intact? Poor story

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