by GaryAPB
there two fools a old and young fool,the old fool will never change being a fool to long.the young fool got time to change.dave what fool are you.
Thank goodness. Never in the course of human events have so many words been used for so little a story. Come on Gary, you're a better writer than this.
I like that while it wasn't a "happily ever after" ending it was a happy ending of sorts. I hope chapter 3 is Alice and her pursuit and capture of Dave. That twinge and uneasy feeling he gets around her I think is the feeling of the hunted when a dedicated predator is on the scent. ;) I look forward to more.
but sometimes love is not enough.I don't think the story was too verbose. Reading is the journey, not the arriaval at the end. I thought it flowed well, and was long enough for a greater depth of character development than we usually see. I look forward to your next stroy, but understand if you take a break. This was a pretty massive undertaking! Well done!
and a very good story. It pretty well worked out like I figured. I guess Davinia's mom knew Davinia wouldn't love Dave. His reputation apparently precluded it.
Under this scenario [not appeasing DAvinia] I rather figured he would gravitate to Alice. The old "I hate you and now suddenly I love you" bit. Starnger things oocur.
But Dave is learning about love and maturity. He may make it, yet.
Thanks for a very good read!
Blowing, the sands no longer shift. No need for that guide, now everyone is set. We know them all. Very nice read, unexpected ending, everyone is happy but!!!!!! ME. A fan always.
Your best story yet. Hard to believe that I could get hooked on what is basically a soap opera. But you have created very real and complex characters that we care about, and who behave in a manner consistent with their character. Sexy but not erotic. No doubt part 3 will be about ALice. And I still think Tim is not yet out of trouble with Beth. Keep writing.
I agree that part2 was better than Part1. I still have reservations about Beth too. The only thing I would say in her defence is that it was good to see the aftermath of her mistake(s).
I hope there will be a part3 and agree with others who say, there is plenty to write about, Alice, Davinia, Drew, Dave, Tim and the dreadful Beth who I still class as a prostitute.
My very best wishes
Somebody like that should not be protected from the law. If I were in the same position I would have "shopped" him instantly - because I'd be worred that somebody with a temper like that would also be into beating his wife and kids.
Yeah, its his anger and he can't control it - but he also refused point blank to see somebody about learning how to control it. He needs a wake up call, and often as not judges are the best people for that.
The part where he didn't think his behaviour would cause him to losse Davinia was inredible.Did the blow to the head cause brain damage?If Davinia is moved unwillingley to another post,she should take them to a tribunal.
It didn't feel like to many wasted words like in the first part. Actually I was really drawn into the story.
I hope the 3rd part will be better. I'm rooting for Alice or Drew...
Thanks!!
I didn't gived it 5 because I felt it needs closure or a sequel. I did give it a 4 as it is a very good read. I hope you write a Dave-Alice story.
Excellent!
I have throughly enjoyed and was moved by the whole story.
Maybe, as one reviewer says it is unfinished without the Dave Alice love story and yet may it is. Based on what I got from this writing Dave and Alice would have to match the passion of Tim and Beth.
I just finished reading the entire series. I found it very hard to stop reading. I do think Alice - Dave would be a good Part 3. I must disagree with some of the other comments concerning Beth. I believe that she has learned from her mistake and to have her Quote Fall Off The Wagon Unquote would be a dis-service to the rest of the story as it would over-shadow an Alice - Dave get-together Part 3 or any other relationships. Beth and Tim are working on their relationship as the re-taking of their Wedding Vows indicate. I would like to see Beth stop taking her birth control pills as I beleive that would be a natural progression in their relationship. Very well done. Randy
Looking forward to a part 3, with your style who know's where you will go. Will it be Dave and Alice or Davina? I hope we find out.
A great and enthralling series, I've waited patiently for it to continue but need to prompt you as it's been so long. Keep writing!
This was a very good series and I've been waiting patiently for the continuation. It's now 8 months since you posted chapter 9 and I do hope you are going to write more about the TGI people. The last couple of sentences of Ch. 9 indicated that the story continues
Good. There are enough bad writers here already. I mean, TWO very bad stories?
Please continue to write more here. I relate so much to some parts of your main male characters...When I read their thoughts and dialogues, I think " Yeah, thats exactly right". The core of each storyline truly depicts real-life characters and happenings. When I read your story, I believe these people are living out these dramas.
WGW
.... since you stopped writing here. Is there somewhere
else where we can find you? I just saw the TGI chronicles
two days ago and read them directly. Your characters are
vivid and have a life of their own. Please treat us to more of your work.
realy enjoyed reading this story, gary , and really wish you would finish the dave novel. it's not in the character of beth to do what she did with the neighbor. she shows to be an accurate evaluater of human nature, level headed, caring, helpful, mature, and capable. she shows no submissive characteristics in the "dave" chronicles. why did she go from being under control to in control, and how? davina is not portrayed as the kind of girl to have a deep intimate relationship with a guy for primarily sexual fulfillment. she would have to be somewhat in love to work as hard to develop a relationship as she did with dave. dave was finally in love and couldn't be stupid enough to tell davina he was messing around with someone while he was after her. he doesn't hate himself enough to be that self-destructive. he's not a born again who has to tell the whole truth.would you, in his position, not just tell her you broke it off a little earlier and that pet just lately find out? you mean he's two-faced enough to have a threesome with lucy but so moralistic he would tell davina the truth? situational ethics- i don't think so. it's not normal human nature. dave and divina were in love. please give us more, gary.
I may not always agree with where you are taking your stories, or your analytical mind or the reasons why characters do what they do or the amount of backstory and descriptions you indulge your stories with...BUT I am floored by the dialogues in these stories. They are so natural, so enchanting, so I must say that you are a master in dialogue and leave it at that.
""" I held out my hand to her, she ignored it, "No. It was weeks ago that I did anything with his wife. Before you and I really got together. But he only just found out. And she promised me that the marriage was completely over. You've got to believe me Dav, I wouldn't ever do anything with a woman if I thought she was happily married. Honestly, I'm innocent in this. Promise." """" <p>
That's his dick talking. What a complete moron. His head and his dick work just the same, he says, in "reasoning" ability....
This was a great story, but Dave saying that he doesn't screw married women is total bullshit. That skank Lucy was married. Who gives a shit if she's happily married or not she's still a married woman. I didn't mess with married women when I was single, b/c it was morally wrong. Also I was totally in love with my girlfriend, and we've been married 36 years now. I remember a very beautiful neighbor of my sisters stopping me on the inside stairs wearing a negligee flirting with me and me thinking of her husband and feeling very sorry for him. The ending left me wanting more. So please GaryAPB finish the story. Thank You for writing. Luis
The dialogue was up to your usual excellent standard. However the character development was something else. Several things happened to make the ending work for me. First there was Drew who initially I thought was a scumbag but turned out to be an alright guy. Davina's character was very plausible and well developed, no unexpected actions. Then there is Dave who was a quite unsympathetic person but metamorphosed into someone I really felt sorry for at the end. I have to admit though I still was left with a few reservations about Dave. He was still checking out Beth. No, I am not naive, I know men do that. I am just not sure he completely changed, there still might be a few character flaws. A great story, thank you for taking the time and making the effort to write. You are the best.
... telling stories written by some sparks of real life is more than ok. Thank you for good entertainment. "Life goes on," one of my favoured authors always says. I agree with him.
<p>Sincere regards</p>
<b>Nucleus</b>
Also, Dave was right from the git go. Dav, the faithless bitch dumped him just as she won his heart. Fuckin Bitches!!!
What about Alice? Well, what about Alice? Alice needs to move on. Dave likes her as a friend, not as a lover.
What I liked most about this well written story is that the whole damn thing didn't hinge on some stupid failure to communicate. The characters IMNSHO were by and large honest and straight forward in their interactions with each other.
Davinia was cool at the end.
You gotta love Beth. I wish my wife was suffing her skivvies in my pocket.
;-)
was hoping that dave would fuck beth and tim would fuck davinia
Just forget the editing shits.
Thank you for sharing on Lit. Very much.
x
I really want to buy into the reconciliation I truly do! But 3 months of carrying another mans cum inside her. It just makes it hard to not think of him as a castrated wimp ass. I think I will read the story again maybe I can pick up on something that will change my mind. Of course great writing as usual
I got excited by the constant low-level tension between Alice and Dave. I'd really like to read what you had in mind for the two of them in the future. I'd also like to see more about Dave coming to terms with being deserted by his mother, instead of being defined by it.
I think that's the mark of a really good story - I like the characters, well, most of them. I want to see what the future holds for them.
Thanks much for writing this and sharing it with us.
and occasionally ripe with apt amusing allusions (bumpy rides, print the legend, etc), a style one can enjoy because substantially thought through, whether dealing with business strategies or with personal affairs. Even the issue with Pete, to tell the truth or not, had its different sides sorted out and persuasively presented. Again, I tried to scan and found myself pulled back into the linear prose and its intricacies almost all of the time. Almost.
Until the end I wondered why you chose THIS kind of hero/narrator, an habituated cocksman with near-level emotional capabilities. Then saw. The distinction you arrive at is incomplete, that love is what's intertangled after being in love, but it does move one forward in understanding, some. Try the more profound "loving is caring" in an elaborate narrative in another story, please.
It's the middle of the night and I could not stop until I finished it. Brilliant piece of work.
I have read both of your stories...bravo ... Thanks....I rally enjoyed the read. Can't wait for you next effort.
... Did I really just wade through twenty some odd pages of absolute pap for that ending? I suppose that's my fault but, damn, it sure is unfulfilling.
You seem to have something against long pieces where real adults do real adult things. I'm not sure if you're up for anything more than two pages so you might want to stay away from stories with multiple chapters.
But the ending was unsatisfying, like you left off half of a page.
Again, too much pain and effort for too little gain. There are plenty of good people to choose from, avoid the losers! You can tell who they are if you can look past the end of your nose and really see them for who they are.
It is better to move on than to repair a betrayed marriage.
The reason is that there is someone else out there.
It just seems like there isn't if you can't figure out how to let go.
And the someone out there hasn't cheated and or betrayed you. There is no once a cheater always a cheater with a new love.
I was really hoping for a happy ending for Dave and Davinia (their names even match!), after all they've been through.
I find the final sentence:
"She looked at me, 'Well, give it time. We may get to a point when we can do that. I hope we do.'"
a bit intriguing. When she talks about getting to the point when they can do the dinner, does she mean that they will be cool enough with each other to be able to socialize, or that they have grown back together into a real love? I guess after 10 years we're not gonna find out now, I figure I'm free to imagine my own happy ending!
More like a history of Dave's life, and the details re what is ate and drank grow annoying over a long serial like this. Prob coulda been cut in half had that been edited out.
Honeslty, these folks are living the life of Rielly, buying organic this and farm raised that, flying and training out here and there, idk just loses me sometimes.
You are a very good writer, I get the sense you didnt mean to end this here, I kept waiting for Dave and Alice to join permanently. Did like the continuing inights into Tim and Beth's situation, that was quite good.
as it has been 11 years it obviously never will be. Did you just get bored? Hardly fair to you readers.
Bullfrog
An old High School English teacher always told us,her students, That a story should be like a woman's skirt. Long enough to cover the subject, but short enough to keep it interesting. This is a very long read with a bad ending.
Why is it that a lot of these stories try to explain away the "poor wife's infidelity" The reality is that Beth put fucking around for sex more important than her marriage .SHE ONLY REALLY STOPPED BECAUSE SHE HAD BEEN CAUGHT ! ! Once a cheater , always a cheater ! His own vanity regards his wife's looks frightened him that he would eventually lose her if he didn't forgive her . You'll be looking over your shoulder forever mate ! reason to take her back
Words to give no good reason whatsoever that Tom should not move on with his life.
It was a horrible dependancy trap explained rather than love.
Aren't like this but they really seem to have an effete class of writer.Not that there aren't plenty with the testosterone trained out of them in the rest of the world but it seems almost universalhere .
To not learn to trust a cheating slut means you are less manly in a simple one sentence to sum this long story up.
Well done! The series is very engaging reading. Your characters are both believable and likable, even where they fuck up. All of us do stupid things in life that we may not be able to explain later and your dramatis personae are fully developed thinking, fucking and blundering humans. The entire story is well conceived and plotted. If I have a criticism it's that the damned thing is too short. I could easily go several more chapters- in fact, I'd love to! I expect that's asking a bit much given that you haven't posted here for years, but what the hell- I don't often enjoy a story series so much as I have this one.
I have to say that my favorite character in your pantheon is the cheating slut wife Beth. Both she and Tim grew in the process pf unwinding all this but I think by the end I've fallen a bit in love with her myself. She figured out what was important to her, nearly too late, but still she got there, and she did what she had to do to get it back and keep it. It was a near thing. Her mistake was monumental, and I can empathize with her most of any of them. For my money she's the star of the whole show. By the final page I've grown quite fond of her. No longer a mere girl, she's a woman now, with the scars and old wounds that are character, and loved all the more for it.
Thanks for writing this, and sharing it.
About all I got out of that was that Tim had a small basis to take Beth back. Rather than just cuz auther
Terrible ending to a good story. Dave shouldn’t accept Dav’s decisions without consequences. She dumped him and he was alright with it? No F’ing way. He should have maned up and made some drastic changes like quit and move on. Staying around to watch Dav pull that crap with Drew is the epitome of whimpdom. He’s too macho to have fade away in to complacency. He should have forced the showdown. “It’s either them or me” He would have done fine either way.... there’s still plenty of story left in this one.
Twists and turns like a mountain road.
The ending surprised me, but it worked. Well done.
I wish you had completed the trilogy and written Alice's story. This was a good read and I stayed up too late reading it.
Thank you for sharing this series with us. I hope you come back and write more.
GHreader
Really smart, excellent details and insights into the positions of the parties on issues like the relationships, etc. Wonder why you quit writing.....easy 5*
Both of your extra long stories are fabulous. I had to read from start to finish.
Well done and thank you @GaryAPB
No way Dav didn’t love Dave. If she hasn’t, she would not ha e been so jealous
Of his playing around.
Very good. Liked the Bristol story better. Better build of characters in that one. Still a 5 star rating for both. We miss you on Lit. Hope you are enjoying life.
a tad long again and didn't go anywhere, just fizzled out. Nothing out of the ordinary, a little too much beer- swilling. Just a 3 from me.