A Marriage in Trouble

Very good story, as always by this author. It was actually loving it until the last few paragraphs all of a sudden he woke up and he could truster really seems like the office tiptoe critical processes for the guy.

It's alright to cheat as long as they never find out and it's not doing harm to them. That's what I take from this, according to Liz. And she's meant to be an intelligent, well-educated woman (a freaking psychologist of all things, who really should know better than most). Unfathomable levels of delusion and selfishness. Not to mention a complete lack of integrity and a broken moral compass. But of course the husband loves her and can't seem to let go and thus suffers until eventually taking her back. Disgusting really.

Now imagine if the shoe was on the other foot. Oh boy he'd be castrated; the family would disown him, he'd be taken to the cleaners in the divorce, the usual. But when it's the woman that cheats, things always seem to be so different.

Oh, MEN and their stupid EGOs! Why can’t they just let women do whatever they want and live with it?!

"We were. I made a mistake, Mark. I did a silly thing. I put myself first. Honestly, though, even now I'm angry at you because the affair didn't hurt our marriage. For two years our marriage existed concurrently with the affair, and it worked. Our marriage, by your own admission, had never been better. The affair took nothing away from you or our marriage."

"That's true to a point, Liz. It was a fantastic period. Pity it was built on a lie."

====> and Liz was a psychologist and a marriage counselor? Really? She would know that it wasn't a mistake. Rhat she did harm the marriage. And she did lie. By omission. Repeatedly. And yes she did disrespect their marriage. Would have loved to see how she would rationalize the shoe on the other foot, if her husband had cheated. But then CVG invariably burns cheating husbands.

Speaking of psychology, Liz showed signs of a disassociative behavior on top of her clinical depression. Her compartmentalization and post reveal dialog was extreme. Her constant anger at his cursing and name calling. Probably a reflex from her running contentious counseling sessions for couples therapy. She had real mental issues.

It doesn't actually come to a head until he gets revenge and blows up Damon's marriage and she is apologetic for the damage she caused to Damon's marriage and NOT their marriage. That was surreal. At least she finally came to understand how.much she hurt her husband to cause him to do that.

Up til then she almost flaunted her two year long affair (which she laughably called "one time" repeatedly, lol) and reveled in it helping their marriage.

Ironically her own internal monolog thinking back to the affair and why and how Damon showed up and how much she loveed the attention, the sex, and the naughtiness *which made it even more desirable to her), basically showed all her post reveal diatribe and psychological drivel was a load of crap. It looks like by the end of the story after having gotten therapy herself, she realized that she had ruined their marriage and nothing is in isolation in a marriage. What she did repeatedly with Damon some almost 40 or so times was in fact highly damaging to their marriage.

And yes her obstinate chance she never lied is laughable.for a psychologist. Where we she trained? Outer Mongolia? Highly suspect they know there as well that a lie of omission is a lie. And her contention that she wwould have confessed if directly asked is pointless since she has no way to prove it. Or that it was about yo burn out on its own.

She shattered his trust and disrespected him, and he divorced her. Bit of a surprise for a CVG story, but not in the real world. Why would he want to see a marriage counselor or therapist, when his wife is one, and clearly cannot see the forest for the trees in regards to her betrayal (the stuff with the vows was hilarious and she just refused to admit any wrongdoing for so long) and then he would be in the room with her AND another counselor? Screw that. Would have been different (perhaps) if her attitude wasn't straight out of the CVG LW gaslighting handbook about no damage to the marriage.

In reality post divorce, her actions and path through therapy (which she should have done two years ago, or even after several months of her affair) were fine. I don't mind the reconciliation except there is so little emphasis on how they reconciled. It just slowly happens.

Yes she finally takes ownership, but the husband would want to know things. Why did she think it made their marriage better AFTER say the first 3-6 months? Why keep doing it for two years? The suicidal ideations (besides being a clear sign to a freaking psychologist that SHE needs her own therapy) don't hold water once she had seen Damon already for several months. By then her own marriage was better. Why keep doing it? Obvious reasons are she liked the sex and had genuine affection for Damon, though at least they kept boundaries, she liked doing something taboo and it gave her a thrill, or she it made her feel guilty enough to please her husband more in some weird emotional circus, or a combo of.all three. Doubt that husband would just let that slide on the suicide reveal as the only driver given her "one time" two year affair for 1-2 weekday afternoons a month.

There a lot of holes in this story from a plot perspective. But CVG writes well and the gaslighting was much less than a usual story from the author, especially of recent. CVG certainly isn't Oshaw or Rehnquist, but was entertaining to read, while simultaneously, tortuous and maddening at times.

As a final comment, I suspect that she concocted her disassociative (im)moral defense in her mind as a bulwark during the first couple months of her affair to overcome her guilt at cheating, while starting to come out of her suicidal ideations, as a survival mechanism. Why because if she didn't then during her vulnerable time period, she would have killed herself almost certainly due to her guilt. So the mind crafted this b$llsh$t argument and sophistry, so as to mentally keep her subconscious mind and guilt with cheating from driving her to suicide. Hence her deep, structured, delusional compartmentalization, knowing damn well virtually everything ahe said post reveal for thr first couple of pages was in fact, a bunch of nonsense for a marriage counselor.

5 stars for a well written story with below average gaslighting (for CVG) and a husband who prior to the divorce, pulled no punches buy was not a complete jerk. Him telling Damon's wife, was basically inevitable. And Liz is delusional yo think otherwise. By the end, she takes responsibility for everything. And I lied the kids. Their comment at the end was important. It let Liz know if she f$cks up again, she loses not only their father, but also both of them as well. And with much more finality than going off to college. I am ok with the MC being the bigger adult near the end and squashing such edicts or statements going forward from their daughters. But what they said, had to have had impact on Liz and had to be said.

Basically, the woman here wasn't really sorry for the infidelity but only the consequences for the others. All because of the rationale that she 'needed it'. And of course it didn't affect the other, and she only figured it out after tons of time with a shrink or counselor. This wife clearly had some kind of dissociative disorder and lacked any quality of empathy. I don't believe any sane man would not believe she would do such again in the right circumstances, like if she was feeling 'low' again. The matter of fact way in which she continued to describe the affair was beyond radical honesty, and reflected the her complete lack of empathy. Love and intimacy requires some kind of empathy and she lacked it. Maybe some kind of sociopath?

The usual misandrist, sociopathic bilge from the tranny.

This story does an excellent job of revealing two different views - the cheater can't understand why he can't let go and he can't trust again.

lc69hunter is just a troll. Just because you don’t know you have cancer doesn’t mean it’s not doing damage. A woman intellectualized a permission structure to cheat. She acted like a bad person even if she may not be.

CAG is a wonderful writer. Her stories are always engaging, but she is wearing out this storyline. I’ll keep reading them because she does a great job.

I the roles were reversed, I cannot even imagine that this story would have ended so nicely. It's like women expect different treatment when *they're* the ones who steal their out. No way. No way in hell.

Giving chance to a selfish bitch doesn't make any sense to me.

If it'd had happened once, I'd have understood but continuing it for two years, not a chance for me.

So pathetic a woman. Mark is lucky to get out of it She is not faithful and never will be. Who cares about a fuck anyone can have sex. Give her the heav ho Bimbo. Why do you write such unrealistic dribble.

The story is intriguing; however, the character of the wife seems to be quite complex. Despite being a psychiatrist, she seems to have ignored everything she learned in her field and ended up being a psychological patient herself.

When she was going through severe depression, she should have turned to a psychiatrist for treatment or to her husband. Her justification for not discussing this matter with her husband seems weak and unconvincing. It seems like she's trying to convince herself that she's a good person and not an adulterer.

It's strange that instead of showing any remorse or apologizing after being caught cheating, she tried to use her profession as a psychiatrist to deceive her husband. She tried to make him believe that what she had done was for his benefit and that he had no reason to be angry.

A woman who is arguing, like the wife in this situation, only makes her husband angrier because she failed to recognize the wrong, she committed by cheating on him. Her reaction is hysterical when her husband tells her lover’s wife that he is cheating on her, which confirms that she loves her lover and cannot bear any harm to come to him.

Her attempts to defend her lover and portray him as an innocent person who has done nothing wrong suggest that she may repeat this betrayal many times. She confessed that her lover was the one who first seduced her, and anyone who seduces a married woman is a bastard. Likewise, anyone who defends such a person is also a bastard.

Regarding her suicidal intentions when her daughters left for university, this seems like a joke. If she planned to commit suicide simply because her daughters left home for university, why did she not feel the urge to do so when her husband divorced her because of her infidelity? Why did she not fall into a severe depression as she had before? Does this not suggest that her divorce and losing her husband do not mean anything to her?

It is clear that her relationship with her lover ended, not simply because she wanted to end the relationship, but because her lover was blaming her for causing his divorce from his wife and wanted nothing to do with her, which means that if he had wanted to continue the relationship, it would have continued and he would have moved to her house to take the husband’s place.

The wife is a very sick and bad person, and I do not know how any wife can brag to her husband that her lover taught her new tricks in sex acts and that she enjoyed it more, including anal sex.

Doesn't that mean that her lover took her virginity in many areas of sex?

It is strange that she denies that what she did was cheating!!!. Having sex outside of marriage is cheating, as it goes against the marriage vows that pledge spouses to "forsake all others" and not enter into any relationship with external parties.

It is also concerning that the lover had the audacity to call the husband and accuse him of being a bad person, blaming him for notifying his wife. How did the lover even obtain the husband's number in his office? It is evident that the lover and wife had continued their relationship despite her denial, and that she had given him the husband's number at work.

The ending of the story seems unrealistic because the husband appears weak and easily influenced, as no husband would willingly accept his wife cheating on him, bragging about the affair, being proud of the sexual positions her lover taught her, and ultimately, expelling her husband just because he informed the lover's wife.

Liz is the Queen of gaslighting. I love a good reconciliation story. This is one that shouldn’t have happened.

after some of the things that have happened in my life i can see how it would be easier and simpler to just forgive and move on together .

[ But it did, and soon they were having sex. That's when the shame really settled over her.

How had she let it happen? She wasn't some stupid young girl. She wasn't a slut... Was she?

But the attraction grew stronger, and Damon was so much fun to be around. The gloom that her life had become lifted miraculously.

She felt so bad about cheating on Mark; she made herself a promise to be the best wife any man could ever wish for. She convinced herself the affair meant nothing. It was separate from her marriage.]

======> from Liz's own recollections, thinking back. So in other words, she knew it was wrong. She was guilty and ashamed (temporarily). But since she was thrilled by the attentions of a young man and excellent lover, she continued as her being desired by another man lifted her depression. But she chose to continue her affair and compartmentalize it, convincing herself it did not impact her marriage.

This means pretty much every thing she said the first 3.5 pages, post reveal, is just sophistry. She knew deep down that she had betrayed him, but could not and would not show that in her conscious mind. Hence she comes off as delusional and demented. Her hatred of Mark when he sabotaged Damon is almost maniacal, and more than a little hypocritical. She and Damon did the deeds (some almost 40-50 times) and had.an intimate connection, but both deluded themselves and were upset when the consequences of their actions came due.

Her protestations that she never lied are a joke. Lies of omission are lies nonetheless and she made those repeatedly over and over again. She certainly was perpetrating a type of fraud as the loving wife while not remotely exclusive and being intimate with Damon.

Nice technicality with the marriage vows. Lol whatever. Pair bonding is a major part of any marriage, and she would know this as a psychologist, but somehow she forgot everything she learned and in no way empathize with her husband. She instead was selfish and self absorbed. She couldn't see that until she saw another therapist. In reality she would make a terrible counselor, unless this was all because she couldn't comprehend or admit what she had done, which is quite plausible.

In fact if she had admitted truly what she did and how she had destroyed her marriage, then she probably would have had a terrible wave of depression hit again. Have a hard time seeing her as a therapists, who knows she is depressed after the daughter's leave for school and fly the coop, that instead of seeing a therapist or talking to her husband, she runs willingly and quickly into a younger man's arms for comfort and emotional connection. Moreover, if she was going to commit suicide and had suicidal ideationsthat year after the daughters left, without getting help, then how would she NOT have suicidal ideations when she lost her husband. That is why perhaps her staunch inability to see it as a betrayal. Because if she did, she would destroy herself.

Still a 5 star story of a well educated woman who was mentally imbalanced and utterly delusional, and who only somewhat admitted her wrongdoing in the last page or so.

The affair, especially a long term one, always takes something from the marriage. Because she got her "good" times with Damon, the romance, the fun times, and the excellent sex, then she by definition had less of those with hrrbhsuavdn, who is convolved with all the mundane times and the bad times. This will temper her vision of her husband. Yes he is her stable rock a d a good provider and father of her kids, but she no longer feels a thrill with him or joy, but that is being met by Damon. That drains the marriage and harms their bond.

In her case she had zero guilt (a standard for this author) and somehow thought it helped their marriage. For those with guilty consciences, even if they quit and do not confess, their perception of the marriage has changed, negatively impacting it.

Also a woman who has a two year affir with another man, will develop intimacy and emotional relationship with the man. This affects the primary pair binding relationship. Slowly eroding it. During the affair and even after she doesn't think of her husband the same way as she used to, platitudes aside.

Any wonder when the genders are swapped in the cheating, CVG burns down the husband? The author almost invariably reconciles cheating wives but nukes cheating husbands. Hypocrisy much?

Liz has a two-year long affair with Demon. Was justifying it, did nothing to sort it out with her husband and when Mark told about it her lover’ wife; she was ballistic on it and blamed Mark for ruining her lover’s marriage. What a she never worried as much about her own marriage. Was she expecting that Damon will move with her so that they become a couple?

BS. 2 years. Wimp

Nie sadziłem ze tacy idioci istnieją . Widać istnieją ale tylko w wyobrażni autorów opowiadań. Kolejne opowiadania fantasy o statym idiocie.

What an excellent story! 5*****! all the way. Could I do it? Probably not. Sometimes you need to lose it all to put everything in perspective. It took her a long time to stop blaming him. The one surprise is that a therapist like her could convince herself she wasn't hurting her marriage.

Damon deserved what he got you don't just start affair it was a choice his wife needed to know he was a cheat

In fact, to expand on my previous comment, he showed himself as not a man, but a weak little vindictive cunt, for what he did to the other family. If I was the wife, after he showed what he was, I would really hesitate to even think about whether I wanted him back or not.

Mark was an asshole. And, she made far more sense than he did. Though I am not sure I would have taken him back after what he did to the other guy's wife and family

waste of a story. unrealistic cuck reconciliation fantasy