A Nestling's Observations

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rawallace
rawallace
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With a total of thirty one published works on this site what have I learned? Based upon the rankings of my stories a little, at least in terms of reader preferences—but maybe a little more too. As authors, we must rely upon the rank/score to tell us how well our works are received—it's just a fact of life.

As the quality of my writing has improved, that is as the number of spelling and grammatical errors have declined, and my sentence structure has improved along with my plots, and characters, I expected a commensurate improvement in my scores relative to the works of other authors. That, by and large, proved to be a false thesis. I've found stories by other authors with far more serious grammatical problems continued to score higher in the same category at the same time as my own—I know, as I read those stories myself. Many of those stories seemingly without a plot—composed of a litany of graphic sex acts strung together.

So, what gives? I think it comes down to the fact the majority of readers want graphic, descriptions of sexual acts, not all readers mind you, as I have enough followers and comments that show otherwise, but it seems to a major driver. So, if the story contains those elements, regardless of how poorly it's composed, it will receive a higher score. Again, just a fact of life that reflects the interests of the readership.

Another trend appears in my rankings—those stories that show female desire for sex and the drive to obtain it, either as an individual or as a member of a group—rank lower. None of my stories that center on the fact females think about and seek sex for their own pleasure have ever gone HOT and remained there. Females, when portrayed exhibiting the same sex seeking behaviors as males result in the story failing to receive a high score.

Does this reflect a double-standard? You tell me. I'm obviously biased in that regard as a female author. But to my mind, it begs the question. What epithet applies to a man who is truly promiscuous and has negative connotations? What epithet applies to a woman in that regard using the same criteria? It's not hard to come up with a list, at least for women.

So, what else have I learned? I check the bios of those who offer comments and find most are aged sixty and over and are male—a demographic I hadn't expected to be honest. Of course, many don't have any information at all in their bios, so the sample size is small. Given that, I've concluded that most of these men are married, some have a partner of some sort, the rest are single—divorced, widowed, etc. Comments received from them suggest they are sexually under-served, and I expect a little lonely in a way. So what is their outlet? You're on the website that provides it. I offer no pity, just understanding.

The good news—my romance stories are enjoyed by many male readers. Especially when they support the traditional notions of romance embraced by many female readers. Since my target audience, by choice, is women, male appreciation is icing on the cake so to speak and I'm thankful for the response. More so, that it has given them pleasure.

There have been suggestions by some that I 'spice' my stories up a little more. These comments are taken into consideration—but frankly, most often not acted upon unless they support the character and the plot. I can see that adding the 'spice' would raise scores—but then, I'm not being true to myself. Am I being stubborn? Yes. Am I being honest with the readers? Yes.

I don't read the great majority of stories or categories on Literotica as doing so takes away from the time I have to write. I do, on occasion, submit comments to an author while not giving my identity away in an effort to be helpful.

I've been frustrated in my efforts to be helpful when offering comments read by all the members of the community and choose my words carefully when I do.

The biggest problem I have is in scoring a story. As an author, I obviously look at a story differently than the average reader. I appreciate a well-written story with minimal errors, a good plot, and character development. I want to reward that aspect of the author's work. I remember how poorly crafted my first stories were and I don't wish to penalize a new author who is really starting out—I've been there not all that long ago.

I don't want to rank a story based upon whether I liked the subject matter or not. Why? Because after reading a story and finding it really wasn't my cup of tea if I were to rank it on that basis, it would get a two. If I really, really didn't like the story, it would get a one. I won't give a one, rarely a two, and after reading the author's bio if I see they are new, will gladly give it a three as a form of encouragement. This still bothers me though as I wish it were easier to score based upon both technical merit and what I would call creativity.

My solution is to not rank/score a story I find distasteful. The reason really doesn't matter if it's not of a technical nature (grammar, spelling, punctuation, etc.). If I've learned anything after being on Literotica it's that my view of the sexual world is very 'vanilla' and the world is full of varied textures and flavors. No one appointed me a judge. I only have opinions and everyone has one of those.

So, when I send comments to an author privately and anon I provide a score for technical merit, and one for creatively. Perhaps not the best solution, but one I hope another author finds helpful.

The other mechanism I've employed is to provide an 'edited' version of poorly crafted text as an example of how it could have been written with proper punctuation, spelling, and extraneous words removed. I select a paragraph or two, trying to include dialogue if needed, and do a copy and paste.

I provide the original text with the edited version below it and explain this is how I would have written it; but explain that an editor may very well see it differently. I've found I'm better at editing than I realized—I just can't seem to find my own mistakes as easily. I've discovered most authors realize that at some point if they keep at it.

I'd been advised by several male authors to be careful about revealing too much about myself. I have heeded their advice—I'm glad I got it early. It's too bad in a way, but this world isn't always kind and caring the way you would like it to be.

Finally, one last comment regarding editors. I've been blessed to have found a good one, actually, I was the one to be found. I was simply smart enough to have accepted the offer. Any author benefits from another set or two of eyes on their draft stories. Even general comments can point out flaws an author doesn't recognize. I've revised two my stories based upon reader comments and they are better for it. So, if you find an error, or have a suggestion on how to improve what you have read, offer it.

I'm still growing as an author, but I'm getting my new feathers now, it will be a while before my wing and tail feathers are developed enough for me to leave the nest. Each new story, each helpful comment, brings me just a little closer. There's a big, wide world out there and I intend someday to view it as I fly. Maybe someday I'll meet Big Bird.

Thank you for your time and interest.

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AnonymousAnonymous9 months ago

I'm a 62year old male.

I look for stories written by females. Preferably stories about wives that cheat within the 1st year of marriage and they continue for 10-15 years. Before the loving, wife-worshiping-husband finally gives up and goes for the throat so to speak, boosts her from the house, cancels all credit for both of them and sues for custody. I don't need detailed sex senes (unless they fit the story).

I look for and read stories that claim to be or based on some true even. Why...? Because I was so damaged by my 1st marriage. I'm still trying to understand why women jump into bed w whom ever. My second did the same 'till I told her I was leaving... she can have the house, the IRA, the investments everything. Something shocked her. I didn't yell, beg, and break shit as before.

That time I was calm as Gandhi and quietly left... Only to be begged back after she needed and got a hysterectomy. (Hmmm) wonder why she begged me back after her sex drive was taken.

Recently read "A twenty fucking year lie."

It shocked me so bad, I trembled. I sneered. I was ANGRY... Why? Because it bought forward all the times I was deceived by women that claimed love, loyalty and trustworthiness. 44 years of heartbreak and still looking for the answer.

Keep writing I'll keep reading.

ChopinesqueChopinesquealmost 2 years ago

I'm impressed with this, and with what is shown of the person. Good writing is .. a delight. And whatever the characteristics driving the stats, and the demography of the readership, this guy gets it: ladies can and do feel, perceive in depth and express in words their personal perspectives. How wondrous that we've been given two ways of being so human.

AnonymousAnonymousover 2 years ago

If it's in the Romance section, I want a slow build to a relationship. Even just hints about the sexual act is fine with me (ie, no explicit description). I for the most part do not read anything but Romance, First Time, Interracial and Mature stories. I don't want a stroke story, period.

Maybe it's just me, a rather lonely, straight, never married, rape surviving old maid that hasn't been in a relationship in over 30 years. I know I'm a minority here. I live the Eric Carmen song "All by Myself" every day.

AnonymousAnonymousover 2 years ago

I find it strange that a turned on woman doesn't get more traction. I'm one of those old married dudes in a sexless marriage (not her fault, she tries but it doesn't work) so I read a lot here.

In real life, and in erotica, there is little that is more arousing to me than a turned on woman. That's why hookers aren't an answer for me, they are just doing their job. I want a sexual partner to be into it, really, really into it.

dmallorddmallordalmost 3 years ago
Sharing a Few Thoughts on Your Article Nestling's Observations

As a new writer here [less than six months], I found and still find, it difficult to get around this site. But I'm glad I found your article and share a similar train of thought regarding feedback and ratings, from a male perspective. I began writing as the virus settled upon the world. I labored intently on my first novel/novella piece for many days, until, late one evening I froze at my table, wondering if anyone would read it. So I stopped and published it at a breaking point in the story 'to test the waters.' After four weeks, 3,800 readers had looked at it. [I'm not sure if the 'view' count means they actually read it or just dropped in and out afterward like someone thumbing through a magazine.] However, a few did it seems, but there was no feedback of the kind you and I seemed to be craving as new writers.

I shifted strategies and added the balance of the story in episodes under incest and taboo category looking for larger response counts. In four weeks the count total was over 17,800 [not including the number when first placed in novels] but still met the same lack of formative feedback. Eventually, my one and only response regarding the novel piece was that it was a long, meaningless waste of space, or words to that effect, if I recall it correctly. Although, it rated a 4.56 at time of the comment.

Somewhat flustered, I consolidated the episodes as one novel again, under a new name and resubmitted it letting the editor know that it was previously published. It was rejected because 'readers get upset when they find they have read something already published'. The editor said to resubmit, if I wanted to, and ask for the old to be taken down. I did that. The result: since December 2020, it has 2,800 views with a rating of 4.56.

What does that indicate to me? Where you post matters more than the content. It went from almost 18,000 reads in four weeks to 2,800 reads in four months! The score remained the same!

Of late, after my eleventh submission, the comments I have received seem receptive to more writings, but none offer constructive criticisms that I require to sustain my impetus for writing. I stumbled upon the small icon that allows an export of story stats in a .cvs format and now I import that into an Excel spreadsheet for assessment. [Didn't find that nugget mentioned anywhere on-site] My overall ratings are above 4.5. Nine of the eleven submissions are marked HOT. My lowest was 4.11 and it was an unpolished, flippant one-off piece to help relieve some stress of the moment. In approximately four hours that submission had over 2,800 views. As of this writing, in four days it has been viewed 9,160 times. [Seems to add some evidence to your theory that sex-without-theme scores better.] What did I expect! - It is named Literotica.com after all! ;-)

Three of my articles are rated above 4.7 so it seems I may have some talent; not necessarily though. I did add a dash of sex to my stories; as your article mentions graphic sex seems to score better. I detected that early on when I first found Literotica.com last year. One flattering, anonymous commentator remarked that my sex scenes were almost literary in content while also pointing out I needed an editor. Perhaps that might be an indicator of writing talent or not. I just don't know how to find the positive feedback necessary to increasing the quality of writing from within this site.

I wish there were a writer's resource on Literotica that could act as a sounding board for writer feedback. Once, I had a two week writer's workshop that provided self-critique, peer-critique, and a final paper-critique with the instructor. [Not on erotic writing!] Perhaps there is something like that, or could be on Literotica - I just haven't found it.

- Just some added feedback from my perspective on what you have already noted.-

"No one appointed me a judge. I only have opinions and everyone has one of those." You said. That echoed, I enjoy your style and craftsmanship. Your writings show care and exhibit a well polished effort. Keep up the good work!

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