All Comments on 'How I Lost the Second Battle of Berlin'

This story leaves too many unanswered questions. I think there was remorse on her part and he should have had the strength to talk with her after the divorce, after she discovered what a heartless selfish bastard Holgar was. A sequel would answer these questions and give him a chance to rise from the ashes of Berlin.

He was “stubborn as a Missouri mule” but willingly allowed the wife to control him for 30 years? That doesn’t compute.

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Lack of any final exchange cost points. Readers want these stories to complete the circle. Lazy writing to have MC just ignore her.

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3 ***

so what about her? This guy is miserable and she is now published and has a relationship with the daughter. Is she happy? Is he sleeping around? Is she married?

Sad Femdom agitprop. Shi’ Thappens. Carry on carrying on…

When a wimp that long the next step to wimpy cucky is an easy one.

MC got what he deserved.

When you behave like a door mat then everyone will treat you so.

Did he really expect any other treatment?!

These are all stories, which seem to be from one real life occurrence. The hurt is real, more so than most stories here.

All of these stories need sequels which add a happy ending for the MC. Good lord you write bleak tales.

All sad stories

Not a single moment where you could have acted more decisively. Yeah right. How about growing a spine and telling the asshole to get his own taxi to start with. Then every moment after that until she fucked him.

Not a single story u have written shows a MC with a spine…. Are they modeller after you?? Guess so!!

All it took for the wife cheat was good conversation and a little german. She cheated so easily that she most likely never really cared much for him. He went wrong when he didnt lead the relationship. In a healthy relationship a man must always lead and a woman must follow, men must be alpha and women yearn to be beta followers that is why they get wet for alpha men. Regardless of what job they have the man must always lead in the relationship.

Is there a pattern of passivity from the wronged spouse with this author? Very civilized, of course.

There is never a closing conversation between the spouses in this story.

I am a fan of a good BTB. This story isn't one, but is probably more realistic. In many BTBs in reality the husband would spend time in prison.

He knew he lost so he just left.

Although in some stories, where the husband is given the short end of the stick by a stupid judge, I would love to see a husband attack the judge, so he would go to prison and be unable to pay alimony.

Would have loved to have had the wife’s POV. What happened with her after hubby had her served. Did she end up with the other guy? Did she go back to her job? Did she and hubby ever meet again. Would be interesting.

Your character was a stupid wimp, and just limped away. No Balls.

Stupid wife letting another man sit next to her forcing her husband aside and then she did not listen to his warning fuck her

Real... like a mailed-fist gut-punch. I think this tale is more realistic in its outcome, the emotions it engenders and the destruction the dispossessed feel, than 99.99% of the stories published here. 5+++++/5.

A well done and realistic story. The usual complaints that the protagonist wasn't, like nearly everyone, able to do much about the situation, given the former history of wife domination. I suppose the main justified complaint was "it's only a story, why not give it a satisfying ending." But some of us get tired of reading only "satisfactory" endings.

Shit!!! I suckered into reading another ½ of a story.

This one was going so good too.

Bill

"What irritated me was when we were getting in the cab he cut me off, managing to get into the back seat with my wife and forcing me to sit in the front."

Grab him by the ear, pull him out, end of story.

On to the next one.

LWlurker

A story with a wimpy husband and a super slut wife has to be a great REALISTIC story. Ohmigawd!

"Whats the rush?" Comment made me think he was going to wait for her book to be published to get half. Decent story but the ending was weak.

Perhaps he allowed his wife too much control of their lives and it left her feeling empowered to do whatever she wanted thinking that he would just fall inline with it. My wife handles most mundane things in our lives but we always discuss the important things.

Thank you for a really thoughtful and realistic story. It was sad and bittersweet. Herman Hesse says that we spend our life burnishing the remains of the shell we carry from our birth. Your protagonists’ partial carapace is becoming quite beautiful as it glints in the late afternoon sun....

I really like Rhein1’s stories. Interesting premise but they just don’t give the satisfaction at the end. It doesn’t have to be the ‘scorched earth’ version, just something that give closure and an understanding that the wife regrets the decision. It’s just a story, why not have a satisfying ending.

Perhaps the readership here is unable to appreciate a saga wherein the hero doesn't pound the offender with Green Beret skill. Too bad.. they don't know what they don't know. Keep writing.

Almost good story but it seemed as soon as you gave hubby a backbone, you took it away. After how she treated and cheated on him, he wouldn’t be morose and in pain over losing the selfish whore. Just a terrible ending. Ridiculous

All he lost was a cheating bitch and in the long scheme of things his life will be better than it was before.

"I will carry scars that cannot be seen for the rest of my life."

As a wise man once said:

"Pain heals, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever."

great story, shitty ending.

All he lost was a domineering bitch. Go get a sweet Chinese woman and live happily ever after

I just found your stories ...read all and am left with a funny taste in the mouth...no doubt u will never be a successful writer..all ur stories feel like food which has inadequate salt to taste...u don’t dee satisfies with the end...its only one sided...and no stories can be complete without both sides being explained..so u see...nothing outstanding...just so so

After their book is in the publisher’s hands, did she return to her old job, or stay in California? Maybe to write a more in-depth book 2?

Once Sweet Barkeep clued me in, I woulda packed, no note, phone off and flown home. Changed the answering machine message to “If you’re calling for Nickole, she is still in Berlin, getting deeply into German affairs.”

I see many people are writing to say they don't like your stories or the ends of your stories.

Personally, I think they are much more realistic than the stories of the wife being left alone and destitute, while our hero has a 10 year younger hot babe just waiting to console him and snatch him up. In real life, there are seldom 'hot babes' waiting to snag 50 year old men up. In this situation, I think the best our hero, Realistically, can hope for is to move on with dignity.

Allowing her absolute control over every aspect of their lives was his downfall. No way does a controlling spouse truly respect the submissive spouse, regardless of any platitudes to the contrary. It was too late to pretend to be an assertive husband, much less a man, by the time they travelled to Berlin.

She no longer loved or respected him, well, no more than one would a pet. That's why she never hesitated about carrying on an affair under his nose at the hotel and why she figured a nice dinner would be more than enough to convince him to let her leave for a year. The husband deserved the pain; he earned it, so let's hope he learned something from it.

As with all this author’s stories you are left hanging with no epilogue ot chapter 2 to explain what happened in the long term. So although I really liked the stories I will only give the author a 3 star for his works.

A recording with the wife, to confirm alienation of affection= years of lost work for the other man.

Chur bro awesome story

The wife's personality a dn motivations were not explored and analyzed. The story was not finished. What happened to her after her trip to California. I guess we can make and "assumption" she didn't stay with her boyfriend since she did book in her married name. But who knows for sure? What happened to her was omitted. Could have been a 5*.

anon.1

the key word is adjust....barring that there is the next step and the next,,,, adinfinitum, TK U MLJ LV NV

In the sequel, he can learn that moment where he "... could've acted more decisively to prevent Nickole from leaving..." was when he first met her. Some real character development there where he learns to fix his "picker" and that this woman was broken from the git-go.

But. First, it should have been posted in the “Loving Wives” section. Secondly, I have, after reading many stories here, come to the conclusion that the “Non-Erotic” section of Literotica has become the dumping ground for depressing stories that authors don’t know what else to do with. I would suggest that the “powers that be” open up a new section specifically for “Depressing as Hell” stories, just to give a lot of good writers a place to vent their angst.

Started out hard, pussified in the end.

Rewrite the ending with an "Alienation of lawsuit for just cause" with the PI's report against HIM, after the book has been published. Now that would be justifiable revenge! Think about it: All that blood, sweat and tears,,,,thousands of hours of work,,,,and then to have it all taken by his cohorts husband.

Final scene: Helga comes home, begging and pleading as she had to pony up her money to pay her fair share of the lawsuit- and her book earnings- also. So each of them make roughly 10% of the cover price. Comes out to about $100,000 each. Sue each for $250,000, out of court settlement of $125,000 each.

Then, since Helga can't pay that kind of cash? Guess who just lost her equity in the house?

https://www.quora.com/How-much-money-does-the-author-of-an-academic-textbook-earn

hell in the cab and ended up going right back to the airport.

boy needs pain.

I think the only thing he could have done, and it probably wouldn't have worked, was to kick up a bigger fuss in Berlin.

Sucks- needs revenge and payback

He knew they were done before they left Berlin. He had just had not come to terms with the facts. The report from the PI put closure on it. How can you call him a wimp cuckold when he was just taking his time. He knew the marriage was dead, all that was left was some paperwork. Yes, he got his revenge by dumping this self-centered

tramp on his terms and no longer had her bossing him around. He did it and did it his way with this harpy messing up his life any more. SO PUT YOUR WIMP/CUCKOLD COMMENTS BACK IN YOUR ASS WHERE THEY BELONG

You ride along fairly well in the story telling department until you reach the end. Then you seem to fall on your face. At the end, he wanted some revenge. Even if his State did not allow it, he could have filed for a divorce and cited adultery. He could have shown all their family and friends the PI reports that showed his wife to be a cheater. And I certainly hoped he asked for and got a percentage of her book sales. After all, she wrote it while they were married. He also should have made all her lovers friends aware of his behavior by sharing the PI reports with them. Since the PI's were watching them, they would have been able to identify all his friends and family and where to send the reports. After that, a good shrink could have helped him with his issues. He could have started seeing one while she was still in California. Once again, pretty good story - horrible ending.

It took a long time but he got there and cut her loose. She will soon be alone as time catches up and Holger drops her for a younger model. Hopefully he will find someone worthy to bring to the daughter's life events and gently rub his lonely ex's nose in it all.

First mistake was allowing the wife to be domineering in their marriage. I can see how it might happen, the husband doesn't really care about something but the wife does, so he lets her have her way. He can't allow that all the time though, marriage is supposed to be about equality. That's what the feminists always wanted, right?

Second HUGE mistake was allowing the prick to take the backseat in the cab with his wife and making him sit up front. That alone told the bastard - and the wife - that he was they type of "man" that can be pushed around, nobody to worry about. Wife was completely wrong in everything she did, but the husband is a wimp so no big surprise there. Leave her in California, they deserve each other. Good riddance, bitch.

Anonymous 08/04/14, you are so off base it is not even funny.

Maybe YOU would do nothing, but the time to stop this shite was before it happened.

The author wrote him as a submissive pussy crying to a bartender instead of standing up to his wife.

At the point that she showed him such utter disrespect in Berlin was the point to lay down how it was going to be. Not to wallow in self pity continuously which is what the author had him do.

Was while in germany and you allowed her to screw around on you. You could have made stand but didn't. The fact that you are still boohooing instead of getting laid says it all. You remind me of guy near Helena Montana. He used whine about wife cheating

TRUE STORY

But he kept pressing her soiled panties to his face while she laughed about it to her younger lover

He should not be so hard on himself but, glad he does not have to put up with her anymore. She took him for granted she had a poor attitude towards anything he wanted it was all about her. On the plus side when theysplit profits from the sell of the house. There should be splitting of the profits from the sell of the book. She was married to him while researching and writing the book if he was still thinking. If he was allowed to completely think.(writer)

I don't follow or know what happen that last comment was for a different story.

Correction: anonymous 11/15 should have been manater1. I stand by my comment. She was a working woman and Pam tracked her down. She was happy on one side of her face with him. Nothing in the story said she wasn't happy with her husband.

He got the proof he need before going off half cocked. Yes Pam had influenced her to cheat bottomline

Why was he so down on himself, she was a uncaring heartless overbearing I'm going to say it Bitch to him. He got only what was needed but, one thing was forgotten in the. Divorce since she did her writing while married her part of the book had to be shared with her husband. Wow any profit shared if it was a good selling book beefed up retirement fund. He has a life with no stress only himself to answer to or for. You put him in a better place what about the Bartender. What happened with could've added some spice.

It looks like the feminazises and girly boys are complaining about this story, too!

to offset the asshole of LIT's 1 vote.

"My frustration stems from the premise that no matter how I look at it I can't seem to find a moment where I could've acted more decisively to prevent Nickole from leaving me". Lmao really? Hard to feel sorry for him he just let it happen right in front of him. This author writes great but I think his characters and the depth of the story need major work. I seem to always have more questions at the end of his stories. This is the second so far but are quite similar same wimpy husband and the abrupt " NO" with the divorce becoming public knowledge and the refusal to talk to the wife.

Wimp disgusting tale, he is like a moron.

It need a epilogue about the wife, no matter how happy or unhappy she is.

but I would have enjoyed it more learning more of the after story of the wife. Did she stay with boyfriend? did she have regrets,etc.

anon.1

one who doesn't want to end life because the slut he married left him for another.

I'm sick of reading these auto-bios written by wimps.

1 star

more exciting than your stories

.....1 all the way with all of your wasted efforts...bill

I enjoyed the tale. You BTB guys who complain that he is a wimp should wise up. The greater the revenge, while it may be entertaining, the greater the fantasy. This writer writes realistic tales. The fact is you big talkers in real life would do nothing. The husband here addressed the problem confronted his wife. When had proof he divorced her. He did not consent to the relationship nor did he knuckle under. Living well is the best revenge.

I have read your stories, and I like them all. I like how the offended party keeps their dignity, and self respect. I feel thought that "Steve" in order to truly be free of "textbook writer" should find some closure, some happiness if you will. By carrying the anger and despair he empowers her so to speak. Thank you for sharing your works.

Those negative comments are pathetic. You did a good job putting this story together.life happens like this sometimes.

Author always posts a weak ending. One sorry star because no zero stars.

Very weak ending with a wimp for a husband.

Do you imagine all of your male protagonists to be pussies and feminine girly-men? Do you identify with that persona? Man up.

".... no matter how I look at it I can't seem to find a moment where I could've acted more decisively ....". Seriously? From the first day in Berlin Malone should have put his foot down and stopped being a tourist and started intervening. After the stained sheets and condoms in der Gruppenfueher's room he should have gone ballistic on her. And whether she admitted it or denied it he should have repossessed his engagement and wedding rings, destroyed everything of hers in their hotel room, and gone home. After taking her credit cards, phone and house keys. If the hotel hadn't held her passport, take that too. Strand her im Deutschland.

Always leaves the man hanging as a weak wimp.

...I had enjoyed the story. But the ending was definitely lacking and I would have liked to have known more about the slut and how her life went.

The ending was a bit unsatisfying. He seems content to divorce her, does so rather decisively, and then the story wraps with him divulging unresolved feelings.

I've finally figured out your style. You like writing synopsis' of what you would like stories to be but never flesh them out far enough to consider them to be considered full stories.

This one could have been expanded a great deal but was once again rushed to an unsatifiying conclusion

I hate fucking cheating whores. She started this and he ended it. No revenge or retribution. We definitely need a continuation, possibly two or more chapters. I'll be looking out for them.

Act without thought for the repercussions -

She ran the relationship so he would do as he was told - she just wanted what she wanted then she would what she had - no prob right ???

Oh well -

It would seem reasonable that she pay some kind of a price for her portrayal.

You are a gifted writer that can draw your readers into your stories all seem to need to be finished. I feel that I'm missing something at the end of your stories.

This story just doesn't feel finished...

JUST DONT WANT TO GIVE UP GRACEFULLY OR GREATFULLY. tk u mlj lv nv

Can you stop in the middle of a SHIT....asswhole...bill

I will agree with LSD that you do a good job of portraying mixed emotions, but I will agree with another comment about reacting immediately when you are being disrespected. Just swallowing it is not useful in the long run.

One thing is that I just read all your stories together and conclude that they are all the same basic story with small changes in the setups.. Try doing something different.

Definition : Someone who is never able to think on their feet, but can always think of the perfect course of action to have taken well after the event has transpired. OFTEN EAGER TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY "SHOULD HAVE DONE".

Source : http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hindsight%20savvy

The funniest line of this comedy, was when you wrote...

"I can't seem to find a moment where I could've acted more decisively to prevent Nickole from leaving me."

However, you wrote the answer yourself, in the form of back-story:

"When our daughter Hope moved out on her own things began to change in our marriage. I don't know how to describe it but Nickole seemed to become even more dictatorial than usual. She directed where we went, what we did and how long we stayed. I am a pretty easy going guy so I let her take the lead in our marriage. My reasoning behind this was that even though I was not really thrilled by her attitude and actions I figured that she would eventually grow out of it."

Your character never acted like a man, why should he expect that his wife would ever consider him a man?

You wrote toward the end, "in the end, I raged helplessly and never sought to hurt either of them."

...and later, "She was gone and replaced by a constant anger that seemed to ebb and flow in its intensity. If I were to describe it at its worst, I would say it was like a giant wave of anger smashing against the rocks of frustration and despair."

Well, if I was your character's neighbour, I would be careful not to upset him, because I might trigger his rage, and he might run out to the ant-nest and kick up some dirt. If he does, I won't be too worried though, because I know he will carefully place his steps so that he doesn't accidentally maim any of them.

Also, as his neighbour, I won't tell him that Hope is not really his daughter, she looks half Spanish. If he ever decided to realise that, I would advise him to not bother getting DNA testing done, though, because I KNOW he didn't have it in him to impregnate ANYTHING, and why waste the money, when the net result will be nothing done about it except for some more scuff marks on the ant-hill.

--- None of the promised applause from me, if I found anything unexpected in any of your work. Book closed.

but he never says it to her when they are arguing over her writing the book with this other guy.

WHY? the lack of confrontation at this part of the story seems makes no sense and it seems contrived

Its seems that way... wow this is fucking awful

I cant say I enjoyed this stor, but could not help but admire the narrator's way of disclosing all the causal events that led to the divorce. I will quibble & put forth that the author did not put forth quite enough of Nicole's positive traits. Getting rid of this kind of wife as she was described sounds like a relief.

Still the wry & yet unsparing voice that came thru this saga was easy to empathize with. It is probably a futile hope that the author will write a sequel where the narrator finds the kind of woman who treats him decently.

Once again, I commend Rhein 1 on his ability to describe a melange of mixed emotions simultaneously felt by his lead characters . There are absolutely no qualms, however, felt by myself in rating this story at five stars & thanking the author.

the numnuts hubby is a wimp. he got sloppy seconds in the hotel,,,,is hope his???? not your finest expected more you wimped out.......

Another well written and thoroughly realistic story. However, like one other critic, I think you would enhance this and your other stories with a final focus on the cheating wife and how she feels about her own actions. Thanks for your fine work.

getting rid of him was the right move he show by his thoughts and actions that he was a fool as i think his daughter also knew, when in berlin she slept around what did he do he took her back the last night proving that he was an idiot., and what happen to him was of his own making.

You have done a fine job of writing to your readers' emotional level and expressing the rage. I feel it too, rage at the woman.

Good job, thanks for writing. 5*****

Regards,

-PUltoy

why someone would try and "save" the marriage. The marriage is over and dead.

Realistically written. The rage comes from the helplessness and inability to change what is happening. The emotional upheaval and subsequent decision to save himself and not be emasculated rang true. In real life there is seldom revenge or any redemptive action.

Having lost my wife to someone with a bigger checkbook I really can identify with the story. Like Steve l tried to save the marriage to no avail.

...walk away day one of the conference.

Oh hony I am so sorry i've been another mans cum dump used and abused take me back as your "faithful" wife when pigs fly.

Good story .

Sad, but a realistic ending. It does seem as if they should have met and had a final discussion after all those years, but perhaps this way was best. I like reconciliations, but with her attitude it would be tough.

Someone said that the person who cares least has the most power in a relationship, but, ya know, he just wasn't gonna wear those horns. Very well written, it makes me think abouts what I would do.

It was great to read a more realistic story of a divorced man.

I liked it. Thanks.

Reality becomes the best fiction. I liked this and was well entertained. Good job!